ok, this is the best recording i've heard for excitement, authenticity, if you want to know what it's like to play in an orchestra, in the thick of it, nothing beats this!
PUT THE HEADPHONES FULL BLAST. BASS DRUM AWESOME NOISE.
There were recordings in stereo, but there was no medium to release it on. Beecham made stereo recordings in the late 30's in Germany, and even in the 78" age there were experiments with Stereo. Several companies made stereo recordings in the early 50's in the US (Mercury, London/Decca etc.). Some big companies like EMI did not believe in Stereo and was late in the market with new technology as usual.
@perneby The Germans made a some genuine stereo tape recordings of classical music concerts; there is one famous one made during a Berlin air-raid and you can faintly hear the anti-aircraft fire in the back ground.
@tautes Not "Ancora"? Anyway, I listened to other versions, also conducted by Toscanini, including the same 1951 recording, where either they cleaned his shouting or they used a cut from rehearsals probably because the trumpets are not so together (omg, who cares??). Fact is, I so love his shouting at that moment.
Pristine Classical has combined the two tapes, made with separate microphones and separate recorders, to produce a true stereo sound. An example, of the opening movement, is available on their website. One wonders why RCA itself hasn't done a full digital restoration of the recordings. However, the merger of BMG/RCA and Sony/Columbia has put many things in limbo, especially classical recordings made by both RCA and Columbia.
We now know that there IS a stereo version of this performance. RCA and NBC made two separate recordings, using different microphones and recorders, and they have now have been digitally remastered, blending the two separate tapes to produce true stereo sound. It is an added dimension to a powerful performance, although most folks say the 1940 NBC broadcast concert is even better.
@sallyrob101 Thanks for the information, I did a little searching about this stereo version, some people say it is not really true stereo as the two microphones were not placed in relation to each other. Be that as it may, the proof of the pudding is in the eating it would be lovely to hear this fantastic performance in a less boxed, more natural sound
WHOO I love this piece! We are singing this in Concert Choir and we will be performing this piece for the first time in over 30 years in our area! HOW SICK IS THAT?!?! whooooooooo Its such a moving piece!
@madmatix yes I was forced to read, this is my video, I moderate the input, and I remove unduly offensive remarks, spam and such things, go poke someone else in the ribs :-))))
Sublime interpretación... Muy adecuado para el tiempo que estamos viviendo... Aunque faltaría el Confutatis Maledictis, flammis acribus adictis. Voca me cum benedictis!
Um, why is everyone having a religious debate on this page? This is Verdi's Requiem, directed by Toscanini; you should be talking about this amazing piece of music. Youtube is not the place to discuss anything but what you are watching, so please save your religious ideologies for the appropriate place.
@DpianoMan4 Don't be so limited, one can discuss many things starting out from an amazing masterpiece like this, and since Verdi was an atheist it's interesting that he should have set a religious text, for me this means he was touching a universal subject that goes beyond the Latin/Christian text he set to music, others find that impossible to understand
@DpianoMan4 -I'm glad that somebody said that. I suppose that the sole reason for them going to these reviews is to hear themselves acting ridiculous in the face of this type of grandeur.
Although in mono, still the most awesome Dies Irae of the Verdi Requiem on record. Relentlessly driven by Toscanini: 3:14 Toscanini shouting for more volume !
@rafaelvicentecarlos It's a pity we won't hear Hawking and you and every other atheist howling in writhing agony in the flames. Maybe this music will be playing.
@Lassannn How are you so sure you won't be there howling with us, sounds like you're a little short on understanding and compassion for we poor lost sheep, too quick to point the finger and too full of self-righteousness. I'd be more worried about the Satan in your own back yard, if I were you, of course I'm not you and I'll enjoy the marvels of human creation here during this life which is the only one we can be sure we're getting.
@Lassannn let me see if I have understood, Christians (Lutherans Catholics Methodists, JWs etc) all get to heaven while the rest of us, whether atheists or believers of other religions (Buddhists Muslims Jews etc) will burn for eternity. is that what you believe? BTW Verdi was an atheist
@CzarDodon Verdi was Catholic, dipshit. And yeah, now ya got the picture. You wanna get pissy about it? Hmmm?? Good. Get pissy with God, because he's the only one who actually cares less than I do. Do what he says because he says so, or suffer the consequences. Enjoy your punishment for pride.
@Lassannn No, not even going to waste my time with an ignorant person like you, I just had a look at some of the offensive rubbish you write on other pages, that was the last time you posted, unless you are so sick that you need to make a new profile.
@Lassannn No, not even going to waste my time with an ignorant person like you, I just had a look at some of the offensive rubbish you write on other pages, that was the last time you posted, unless you are so sick that you need to make a new profile. Good bye
@TheKeenanBoy I understand that most recent scholars of the life of Verdi have moved him even further along from agnostic to possible athiest!! It seems the Mrs Verdi because of this was very much afraid of repercussions both at the time and in the hereafter.....hers that is....she continued as a believer!!!!!!
So the Devil has at least one or two great tunes.....
Toscanini is the greatest because he always insisted for the music to be played/sung the way it was written by the author and not as interpreted by someone else. Moreover, he always has complete control of the orchestra with his invisible hand (the only other person who had this gift was Duane Allman probably the greatest rock guitaist ever - listen to In Memeory of Elizabeth Reed "Live at Fillmore East album" )
I really love it when Toscanini totally gets into a piece and shouts instructions while he is conducting :p He really is a master in conducting and truly inspiring as a conductor
@czardodon .Thank you for posting this. You are right music and a lot of other things have become too accessible these days and we `consume' a work like this and move on to the next one rather spending time listening to it and getting to know the details.
.....thankfully, after I heard this version in 1964, whenever I hear it, I always hear the Toscanini version, nomatter who is conducting...it is a tremendous benefit......nobody will ever play these electrifying notes like this again, Toscanini belongs to the ages......
@debiaptget There was no stereo sound in 1951, I would expect a 30 year old to have a little more historical awareness; the value of this performance goes beyond the quality of the sound.
But I know that most of the people hanging around here are just into the big bang of the bass drum and they probably can't take it once the 'mors stupebit' section begins. That's why tens of thousands have listened to this piece but not to the rest of the requiem. Sad what a shallow species we are.
@CzarDodon Thank you for your response. Please excuse my ignorance. I must confess I did not read the description. By the way, I'm not 30 years old (as my profile says) but I'm only 21. I did not realized this recording was that old. This interpretation is great, but i prefer stereo when it is available (it feels more like being there instead of sound in middle of the head). I attended to an interpretation yesterday (by the OSQ) and it was magnifique. (excuse my poor english, i'm french)
@CzarDodon Of course its great to hear new recordings of high quality orchestras, but the good old stuff is still some good old stuff : ) I don't care if its in Mono.. Its still great : ) The Verdi Requiem in its whole is one of my top favorite classical pieces, and the Des Irae just... I mean... It's just awesome! Just awesome... Mono, Stereo, Surround, Hi-Fi... what ever... It's just awesome!
@ETHELMERE I guess, ultimately, I could agree with that. My point was somewhat different however, today there is no time for getting to know a work of art, we are brainwashed into wanting everything immediately, most people will not take the time to get to know the rest of the Requiem and that is sad (There is also so much to consume as we download non-stop). Art is like love, it takes time and patients to yield its deeper joys, today for most it's a series of quickies.
@ETHELMERE The enjoyment of art is not necessarily private. Why continue holding public performances of music otherwise? With the high quality of sound recordings today, what else would compel people to attend concerts if not to see other human beings perform music live, and sharing this experience with others?
@CzarDodon I find it a bit unnecessary to devoid that guy of all intelligence because of a simple statement, I also lament your outlook on society as a whole because some people haven't listened to this entire piece of music.
Those type of actions are what makes our species "sad and shallow",
@PendejoAlce I'm sorry, in the middle of all the comments I have no idea who "that guy" is, what did I do to him? I'm not 100% sure, but I take it you agree with me that today's shallow consumption of art, as if it were a supermarket commodity, is a sad state of affairs for you too
@muurtalo this system in youtube of leaving comments doesn't help things at all, I have no idea what comment of mine seem condescending and demagogic to you? there's certainly nothing wrong with wanting the best possible sound, I wouldn't put sound quality above performance quality though... is that a demagogic idea?
@debiaptget@debiaptget He just missed the stereo era by a year or two, I believe. Reiner made the first experimental one in Chicago late 1955 I believe. It was a technically very cumbersome affair at first too- they synchronize two mono machines, rather than recording two tracks on one tape. That came a year or two later.
On the other hand, his lifetime did overlap Verdi's, right? Maybe this is how Verdi wanted it? This is the tempo they take in Italy, anyway. Foreigners take it faster because they just don't "get it." Tempo is like penis length to some conductors.
@youtubister I totally agree with you! Surely Toscanini asked more volume: actually Verdi in this point wrote: "a tutta forza" (= as strong as you can)
@SteveAndrewLangford, I guess you mean what the composer wrote. I find that Toscanin is much less self indulgent than Karajan, Karajan often broadens the tempo in a decadent and at times sentimental manner, If Toscanini had a fault it was being too rigourous, if Karajan had it was being too bombastic and/or sentimental (late Karajan): Toscanini's sound, from what we can tell, was more Italianate, Karajan's worst legacy was the modern homogenized globalised orchestral sound
@CzarDodon, Yes, my bad, lol. But yes, maybe the better word is being too rigid. I think Karajan believed he was putting just enough of his emotions that it wouldn't take away from the piece he was playing, but at the same time, would be HIS.
I don't agree too much on that last bit, but oh well. Long live classical music and everything that goes along with it!
@SteveAndrewLangford Do you mean the bit about globalised sound? let me explain: I think this phenomenon is especially clear if you listen to older recordings, compare Russian or Czech orchestras, French Orchestras too had a very distinctive sound, HvK & his excessive recording output, contributed to a very clean, IMO antiseptic sound that set a 'standard'. I call this impoverishment: It reduces the range of available sounds limits the scope of interpretative vision i.e. musical globalisation
@CzarDodon Yes, I do. Let me fully understand what you said, I kind of don't get it. I'm going to see and study what you said, see if I notice a 'progression'.
@CzarDodon Yes, I do. Let me fully understand what you said, I kind of don't get it. I'm going to see and study what you said, see if I notice a 'progression'.
@CzarDodon Yes, I completely concur with your observations. It seems Toscanini was very 'brisk' in his takes and Karajan very, wanting to get out the most he could from a piece. If I were to select a conductor for 'MY' orchestra, I would choose Toscanini. Could go on, and on, but leave it at that.
@CzarDodon The phrase '(Adjective) (noun) is (adjective)' is an internet meme. He's just being an idiot. This 1951 Toscanini-Verdi Requiem is one of the finest on record, thanks for posting. I'd much rather listen to this recording than any modern stereo surround sound recording of Verdi's Requiem with a second rate conductor, orchestra, choir, and soloists.
@CzarDodon of course I have. His contributions to conducting were monumental and I consider him one of the best conductors of the 20th century. I also truly agree with his idea that all those involved with a musical performance of any kind must be certain of their intentions of the direction of the piece in order to have a musical execution. Given that, I hardly find your question relative to my rhetorical one that merely noted the slight lack of balance in the exposition. No need for an attack.
I'm rather amused and somewhat bewildered by your choice of the word pussy I presume you are not referring to the female reproductive organ or a domestic feline, so you are most probably alluding to some lack of masculinity, which I really find totally inappropriate to the context and content of the Verdi Requiem which speaks to all humanity regardless of their gender or sexual orientation. I do agree that the performance reaches into the soul of Verdi's creation like no other to date.
Well said; I'm glad some people around here are sensible. That being said, I'm not a huge fan of the trills, but the raw power is unmatched by any other recording I've heard.
@11MURDOCH I must say that the trumpets makes me imagine the picture of something fighting for its life, or something in despair, and it is something u can only notice in that interpretation, an amazing interpretation.
My God. Literally MY GOD! this song is performed by TSO (trans-siberian orchestra) album Night Castle. Needless to say, this original version swept me off my feets. and it is conducted by El Maestro, Sr Toscanini. It don't get much better than this You Tubers. FT
Taken from one of the rehearsals for the performance. As with most of the operas, rehearsal footage was spliced in with that of the actual performance to cover errors and other deficiencies which Toscanini heard. Without those splices, he would not have approved the release of the performance. (In the case of AIDA and BALLO, certain passages were re-recorded in 1954 with Nelli (both operas), Peerce (BALLO), and the NBC Symphony after the end of the broadcast season.
Una direzione carica di emotività ed un tumulto interiore manifestato attraverso la bacchetta. Arturo Toscanini, un temperamento ormai raro e perduto. Il coro non sempre a tempo ma intenso.
Il cast...non abbisogna di commenti, solo ovazioni!
you do not feel safe for your lack of faith when you listen to this
xdiesp 6 days ago
Wow! leaves one limp!
blessOTMA 1 month ago
ok, this is the best recording i've heard for excitement, authenticity, if you want to know what it's like to play in an orchestra, in the thick of it, nothing beats this!
PUT THE HEADPHONES FULL BLAST. BASS DRUM AWESOME NOISE.
suffolkandfab 2 months ago
Toscanini Il Maestro forever. he now runs the ANgel Chorus up in Heaven for God ALmighty himself. ha ha ****
TravellerFellow 2 months ago
divine
jeyvr 2 months ago
most exciting 10 min in all classical music
BreakFace2468 2 months ago
7 people dont know a thing about good music
BreakFace2468 2 months ago
p people dont know a thing about good music
BreakFace2468 2 months ago
the judgment's day frightens also who don't believe
operalover67 2 months ago 4
There were recordings in stereo, but there was no medium to release it on. Beecham made stereo recordings in the late 30's in Germany, and even in the 78" age there were experiments with Stereo. Several companies made stereo recordings in the early 50's in the US (Mercury, London/Decca etc.). Some big companies like EMI did not believe in Stereo and was late in the market with new technology as usual.
perneby 4 months ago
@perneby The Germans made a some genuine stereo tape recordings of classical music concerts; there is one famous one made during a Berlin air-raid and you can faintly hear the anti-aircraft fire in the back ground.
SatchmoSings 1 week ago
Humano, simplesmente humano.
Armando1735 5 months ago
does anypne know any other peices of classical music like that??? for the times you are angry :P
4301nicky 5 months ago
VERDI E TOSCANINI! DUE MOSTRI SACRI.
LUIGIMORSELLO 6 months ago
chi sono i 7 pazzi a cui non piace? Questa versione è fenomenale!
tautes 6 months ago 5
@tautes concordo
48silvana 5 months ago
I sang in a performance of the Verdi Requiem with the fort Worth Symphony back in 1992.
An amazing experience.
Staceyrae100 6 months ago
Anybody knows what he is shouting at 3'14"?
mrnrpp 6 months ago
@mrnrpp I think he's shouting "Più forte! Più forte!" ("Louder! Louder!")
tautes 6 months ago
@tautes Not "Ancora"? Anyway, I listened to other versions, also conducted by Toscanini, including the same 1951 recording, where either they cleaned his shouting or they used a cut from rehearsals probably because the trumpets are not so together (omg, who cares??). Fact is, I so love his shouting at that moment.
mrnrpp 6 months ago
Maestro, Lei mi fa credere davvero che esista un Dio!!!!!
MegaNino60 6 months ago
Profound exelsity, absolute delicasy...Bravo, Maestro Arturo Toscanini!!
angela44ize 7 months ago
Une époque où les choeurs donnaient de la voix et faisaient jeu égal avec l'orchestre,enfin presque...
abracadabranque 7 months ago
This is fantastic.
elimaurer85 8 months ago
c'est du violent, du beau violent
starwars1marc 8 months ago
Pure power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nuovo00 1 year ago
che cannonate!
segu82 1 year ago 2
bella musica !!!!!.....altro che rock!!!
TheMissGirl97 1 year ago
I love how the timps sound like cannons in this recording.
JackSafferyRowe 1 year ago
@JackSafferyRowe It's the big drum :-)
Matteo7419 1 year ago
Put's a smile on my face. :)
jovanvlogshow 1 year ago
Pristine Classical has combined the two tapes, made with separate microphones and separate recorders, to produce a true stereo sound. An example, of the opening movement, is available on their website. One wonders why RCA itself hasn't done a full digital restoration of the recordings. However, the merger of BMG/RCA and Sony/Columbia has put many things in limbo, especially classical recordings made by both RCA and Columbia.
sallyrob101 1 year ago
We now know that there IS a stereo version of this performance. RCA and NBC made two separate recordings, using different microphones and recorders, and they have now have been digitally remastered, blending the two separate tapes to produce true stereo sound. It is an added dimension to a powerful performance, although most folks say the 1940 NBC broadcast concert is even better.
sallyrob101 1 year ago
@sallyrob101 Thanks for the information, I did a little searching about this stereo version, some people say it is not really true stereo as the two microphones were not placed in relation to each other. Be that as it may, the proof of the pudding is in the eating it would be lovely to hear this fantastic performance in a less boxed, more natural sound
CzarDodon 1 year ago 2
WHOO I love this piece! We are singing this in Concert Choir and we will be performing this piece for the first time in over 30 years in our area! HOW SICK IS THAT?!?! whooooooooo Its such a moving piece!
kps1215 1 year ago
Thank you for upload
RedGlassSky 1 year ago
Beautiful just like the rest of the requiem and like mozart dies irea and beethovens 9th symphony ;-) and more then i can name
Godl1keNL 1 year ago
Pure emozioni
256timoteo 1 year ago
Glorious music! Conducted by one the greatest conductors! Thank you CzarDodon for the posting!
CanadaPisces 1 year ago
@CanadaPisces -And thank you James for sending me this gem.
paulostroff99 1 year ago
To anyone who engaged in that POINTLESS religious argument:
MAY THE WRATH OF VERDI'S MUSICAL PROWESS RAIN DOWN UPON YOU!!!!!
Carry on.
DuchessAliana 1 year ago 22
@DuchessAliana Did someone force you to read it? what's your problem? with you pseudo biblical anathemas you sound pretty ridiculous
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@CzarDodon Did someone force you to have an input?
madmatix 1 year ago
@madmatix No, what's your point?
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@CzarDodon, Point=were you force to read her input? Then why comment on it. More of a poke in the rib humor.
madmatix 1 year ago
@madmatix yes I was forced to read, this is my video, I moderate the input, and I remove unduly offensive remarks, spam and such things, go poke someone else in the ribs :-))))
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@CzarDodon what's the fun in that. lol :)
Thanks for posting the video though.
madmatix 1 year ago
Well I 'm glad you're having fun in such an innocent fashion
CzarDodon 1 year ago
Sublime interpretación... Muy adecuado para el tiempo que estamos viviendo... Aunque faltaría el Confutatis Maledictis, flammis acribus adictis. Voca me cum benedictis!
bebetonguga 1 year ago
could someone point out to me the part of the song that uses the Dies Irae original melody? I cant find it. thanks.
TheKeenanBoy 1 year ago
@TheKeenanBoy It isn't there. Verdi didn't use it.
JimC 1 year ago
bellisima opera
MrMic23z 1 year ago
@MrMic23z it's not an opera, but a "messa" and yes, it is magnificent
gomongio 1 year ago
Um, why is everyone having a religious debate on this page? This is Verdi's Requiem, directed by Toscanini; you should be talking about this amazing piece of music. Youtube is not the place to discuss anything but what you are watching, so please save your religious ideologies for the appropriate place.
DpianoMan4 1 year ago 2
@DpianoMan4 Don't be so limited, one can discuss many things starting out from an amazing masterpiece like this, and since Verdi was an atheist it's interesting that he should have set a religious text, for me this means he was touching a universal subject that goes beyond the Latin/Christian text he set to music, others find that impossible to understand
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@CzarDodon I agree, this music, like all great music, has universal appeal. Thank you for uploading.
darkprose 1 year ago
@DpianoMan4 -I'm glad that somebody said that. I suppose that the sole reason for them going to these reviews is to hear themselves acting ridiculous in the face of this type of grandeur.
paulostroff99 1 year ago
Although in mono, still the most awesome Dies Irae of the Verdi Requiem on record. Relentlessly driven by Toscanini: 3:14 Toscanini shouting for more volume !
youtubister 1 year ago
gosh! the big drums give me goose bumps! impressive interpretation...
ibk1980 1 year ago
at 3:15 (tuba mirum) we can hear the voice of Toscanini above the chorus!
nellouffa 1 year ago
No Doomsday According To Dr.Stephen Hawking, but it is a pity we will not hear the Dies Irae from Verdi ,directed by Toscanini . .
rafaelvicentecarlos 1 year ago
@rafaelvicentecarlos It's a pity we won't hear Hawking and you and every other atheist howling in writhing agony in the flames. Maybe this music will be playing.
Lassannn 1 year ago
@Lassannn How are you so sure you won't be there howling with us, sounds like you're a little short on understanding and compassion for we poor lost sheep, too quick to point the finger and too full of self-righteousness. I'd be more worried about the Satan in your own back yard, if I were you, of course I'm not you and I'll enjoy the marvels of human creation here during this life which is the only one we can be sure we're getting.
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@CzarDodon I'm Christian. How hard is that? If you're not, and Hawking is not, you're damned to eternal fire burning you forever.
Lassannn 1 year ago
@Lassannn let me see if I have understood, Christians (Lutherans Catholics Methodists, JWs etc) all get to heaven while the rest of us, whether atheists or believers of other religions (Buddhists Muslims Jews etc) will burn for eternity. is that what you believe? BTW Verdi was an atheist
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@CzarDodon Verdi was Catholic, dipshit. And yeah, now ya got the picture. You wanna get pissy about it? Hmmm?? Good. Get pissy with God, because he's the only one who actually cares less than I do. Do what he says because he says so, or suffer the consequences. Enjoy your punishment for pride.
Lassannn 1 year ago
@Lassannn No, not even going to waste my time with an ignorant person like you, I just had a look at some of the offensive rubbish you write on other pages, that was the last time you posted, unless you are so sick that you need to make a new profile.
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@Lassannn No, not even going to waste my time with an ignorant person like you, I just had a look at some of the offensive rubbish you write on other pages, that was the last time you posted, unless you are so sick that you need to make a new profile. Good bye
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@CzarDodon Wow that guy Lassannn is an idiot.
Seanze329 1 year ago
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TankBuster09 1 year ago
@Lassannn Oh look another religious crusade being fought on youtube. Well ain't that a B.
TankBuster09 1 year ago
@CzarDodon
Verdi was agnostic.
TheKeenanBoy 1 year ago
@TheKeenanBoy I understand that most recent scholars of the life of Verdi have moved him even further along from agnostic to possible athiest!! It seems the Mrs Verdi because of this was very much afraid of repercussions both at the time and in the hereafter.....hers that is....she continued as a believer!!!!!!
So the Devil has at least one or two great tunes.....
pjdonagh 1 year ago
Battle Royale!
tjagolf33 1 year ago
E' qualcosa che veramente porta fino in cielo
giovannizan 1 year ago
4 people are atheists.
Lassannn 1 year ago
@Lassannn well... 4 people who are going to hell NOW! this is the most explosive, bombastic, giant and greatest interpretation of Verdi´s requiem...
ibk1980 1 year ago
@ibk1980 Yeah, 4 people are Muslim terrorists.
Lassannn 1 year ago
Toscanini is the greatest because he always insisted for the music to be played/sung the way it was written by the author and not as interpreted by someone else. Moreover, he always has complete control of the orchestra with his invisible hand (the only other person who had this gift was Duane Allman probably the greatest rock guitaist ever - listen to In Memeory of Elizabeth Reed "Live at Fillmore East album" )
fgplmp 1 year ago
This is still the best recording there is.
Lassannn 1 year ago
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MrDerbar 1 year ago
ＰＯＰは糞。この曲の歌詞の内容は未だ知らないけどおそらく未来永劫語り継がれる曲だと思う。ヴェルディ天才。死して尚語り継がれる奴等が神だと思う。
kzkize 1 year ago
Oh my god...
sas147741 1 year ago
I really love it when Toscanini totally gets into a piece and shouts instructions while he is conducting :p He really is a master in conducting and truly inspiring as a conductor
Yaamoesje 1 year ago
BTW: Verdi is not a Classical composer Classical period ended about 75 Before Verdi...Beethoven was a Classical Composer.
I own 3 different performances of Toscanini performing Requium. There are 2 performances of Aida that I am aware of (1946, 1949).
marty4248 1 year ago
@czardodon .Thank you for posting this. You are right music and a lot of other things have become too accessible these days and we `consume' a work like this and move on to the next one rather spending time listening to it and getting to know the details.
vvsivakumar 1 year ago
When I first heard this I had a feeling that i was hearing Verdi's Dies Irae first time... Eternal genius.
AnryK2690 1 year ago
A phenomenom.
LordMgls 1 year ago
Più forte!
firedrap 1 year ago
Wowwwwwwww thank you so much for uploading this amazing recording. It's earth shattering.
blackcat355 1 year ago
.....thankfully, after I heard this version in 1964, whenever I hear it, I always hear the Toscanini version, nomatter who is conducting...it is a tremendous benefit......nobody will ever play these electrifying notes like this again, Toscanini belongs to the ages......
valdengo1 1 year ago
This is in mono sound :(
debiaptget 1 year ago
@debiaptget There was no stereo sound in 1951, I would expect a 30 year old to have a little more historical awareness; the value of this performance goes beyond the quality of the sound.
But I know that most of the people hanging around here are just into the big bang of the bass drum and they probably can't take it once the 'mors stupebit' section begins. That's why tens of thousands have listened to this piece but not to the rest of the requiem. Sad what a shallow species we are.
CzarDodon 1 year ago 9
@CzarDodon Thank you for your response. Please excuse my ignorance. I must confess I did not read the description. By the way, I'm not 30 years old (as my profile says) but I'm only 21. I did not realized this recording was that old. This interpretation is great, but i prefer stereo when it is available (it feels more like being there instead of sound in middle of the head). I attended to an interpretation yesterday (by the OSQ) and it was magnifique. (excuse my poor english, i'm french)
debiaptget 1 year ago
@CzarDodon Of course its great to hear new recordings of high quality orchestras, but the good old stuff is still some good old stuff : ) I don't care if its in Mono.. Its still great : ) The Verdi Requiem in its whole is one of my top favorite classical pieces, and the Des Irae just... I mean... It's just awesome! Just awesome... Mono, Stereo, Surround, Hi-Fi... what ever... It's just awesome!
stygn 1 year ago
@CzarDodon Ultimately, the enjoyment of art is totally private.
ETHELMERE 1 year ago
@ETHELMERE I guess, ultimately, I could agree with that. My point was somewhat different however, today there is no time for getting to know a work of art, we are brainwashed into wanting everything immediately, most people will not take the time to get to know the rest of the Requiem and that is sad (There is also so much to consume as we download non-stop). Art is like love, it takes time and patients to yield its deeper joys, today for most it's a series of quickies.
CzarDodon 1 year ago 24
@CzarDodon Could not have said it better.
Dutchy4U 1 year ago
@ETHELMERE The enjoyment of art is not necessarily private. Why continue holding public performances of music otherwise? With the high quality of sound recordings today, what else would compel people to attend concerts if not to see other human beings perform music live, and sharing this experience with others?
fraserdaly 1 year ago
@CzarDodon lol
Brooke2931Pyro 1 year ago
@CzarDodon I find it a bit unnecessary to devoid that guy of all intelligence because of a simple statement, I also lament your outlook on society as a whole because some people haven't listened to this entire piece of music.
Those type of actions are what makes our species "sad and shallow",
Good day.
PendejoAlce 1 year ago
@PendejoAlce I'm sorry, in the middle of all the comments I have no idea who "that guy" is, what did I do to him? I'm not 100% sure, but I take it you agree with me that today's shallow consumption of art, as if it were a supermarket commodity, is a sad state of affairs for you too
good night
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@CzarDodon Why all this condescending demagogy? What's wrong with wanting to hear an outstanding performance in best sound quality?
muurtalo 1 year ago 2
@muurtalo this system in youtube of leaving comments doesn't help things at all, I have no idea what comment of mine seem condescending and demagogic to you? there's certainly nothing wrong with wanting the best possible sound, I wouldn't put sound quality above performance quality though... is that a demagogic idea?
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@debiaptget No reason to be disapointed : )
tenorismo 1 year ago
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moosatious 1 year ago
@debiaptget @debiaptget He just missed the stereo era by a year or two, I believe. Reiner made the first experimental one in Chicago late 1955 I believe. It was a technically very cumbersome affair at first too- they synchronize two mono machines, rather than recording two tracks on one tape. That came a year or two later.
moosatious 1 year ago
Grande Maestro.
Matteo7419 1 year ago
On the other hand, his lifetime did overlap Verdi's, right? Maybe this is how Verdi wanted it? This is the tempo they take in Italy, anyway. Foreigners take it faster because they just don't "get it." Tempo is like penis length to some conductors.
flutebat 1 year ago
Toscanini = Perfection
FabioThePianist 1 year ago
There is no better recording of the Dies Irae.
You can hear Toscanini shout at about 3:13, apparently he was 'asking' for more volume.
This is a towering performance in every way, and is my favourite recording of this piece.
youtubister 1 year ago
@youtubister I totally agree with you! Surely Toscanini asked more volume: actually Verdi in this point wrote: "a tutta forza" (= as strong as you can)
beginner57 1 year ago 2
This recording is amazing.
You can hear him shouting at the trumpets at "Tuba Mirum." What a performance.
S4sando 1 year ago
Two italian geniuses!
iguarni 1 year ago 4
Holy s**t.
flamencoandy 1 year ago
This version is similar to von Karajan's. Reason being both men were rigid in following what the conductor wrote.
SteveAndrewLangford 1 year ago
@SteveAndrewLangford, I guess you mean what the composer wrote. I find that Toscanin is much less self indulgent than Karajan, Karajan often broadens the tempo in a decadent and at times sentimental manner, If Toscanini had a fault it was being too rigourous, if Karajan had it was being too bombastic and/or sentimental (late Karajan): Toscanini's sound, from what we can tell, was more Italianate, Karajan's worst legacy was the modern homogenized globalised orchestral sound
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@CzarDodon, Yes, my bad, lol. But yes, maybe the better word is being too rigid. I think Karajan believed he was putting just enough of his emotions that it wouldn't take away from the piece he was playing, but at the same time, would be HIS.
I don't agree too much on that last bit, but oh well. Long live classical music and everything that goes along with it!
SteveAndrewLangford 1 year ago 2
@SteveAndrewLangford Do you mean the bit about globalised sound? let me explain: I think this phenomenon is especially clear if you listen to older recordings, compare Russian or Czech orchestras, French Orchestras too had a very distinctive sound, HvK & his excessive recording output, contributed to a very clean, IMO antiseptic sound that set a 'standard'. I call this impoverishment: It reduces the range of available sounds limits the scope of interpretative vision i.e. musical globalisation
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@CzarDodon Yes, I do. Let me fully understand what you said, I kind of don't get it. I'm going to see and study what you said, see if I notice a 'progression'.
SteveAndrewLangford 1 year ago
@CzarDodon Yes, I do. Let me fully understand what you said, I kind of don't get it. I'm going to see and study what you said, see if I notice a 'progression'.
SteveAndrewLangford 1 year ago
@CzarDodon Yes, I completely concur with your observations. It seems Toscanini was very 'brisk' in his takes and Karajan very, wanting to get out the most he could from a piece. If I were to select a conductor for 'MY' orchestra, I would choose Toscanini. Could go on, and on, but leave it at that.
SteveAndrewLangford 1 year ago
If death is anything like Verdi's requiem, I'm ready
88jerome 1 year ago 3
Poor quality is poor.
UrogHai 1 year ago
@UrogHai, nothing here is as poor as your ability to express yourself! what quality is poor here?
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@CzarDodon The phrase '(Adjective) (noun) is (adjective)' is an internet meme. He's just being an idiot. This 1951 Toscanini-Verdi Requiem is one of the finest on record, thanks for posting. I'd much rather listen to this recording than any modern stereo surround sound recording of Verdi's Requiem with a second rate conductor, orchestra, choir, and soloists.
GermanOperaSinger 1 year ago
Happy Birthday,Maestro!
iamrepete 1 year ago
At 3:20 - 3:40 really God's wrath sensation - impressive !
BradipoNinja 1 year ago
@CzarDodon of course I have. His contributions to conducting were monumental and I consider him one of the best conductors of the 20th century. I also truly agree with his idea that all those involved with a musical performance of any kind must be certain of their intentions of the direction of the piece in order to have a musical execution. Given that, I hardly find your question relative to my rhetorical one that merely noted the slight lack of balance in the exposition. No need for an attack.
nostradamusguy 1 year ago
Have the brass players heard of balance?
nostradamusguy 1 year ago
yeah we have...go check the score!
trapster911 1 year ago
Have you heard of Toscanini?
CzarDodon 1 year ago
You chan hear Toscanini shouting at 3:14!
davidenute 1 year ago 5
Geez on me! It's after during the trumpet call and it's still in!!!!
Sturdley 1 year ago
Geez! They edited out T's famous yell at the orchestra near the beginning. I can't hear the piece without remembering that shout!
Sturdley 1 year ago
Can you tell what he's shouting? I can't make it out...
tankgirl73 1 year ago
I think he is counting to keep everyone together. That is what I read on the album case. He gets so excited he can't keep quiet.
fairday2 1 year ago
"Piu forte, piu forte"
Louder, louder
88jerome 1 year ago
I think he is saying "Louder.... LOUDER !!!!"
sidecarural 1 year ago
che dire,
Toscanini...
chirotteri 1 year ago
What if Verdi is right ? One day we will be walking down the street and the heavens will open to this beautifull music ?
tenorismo 1 year ago
FINALLY!!! an interpretation that is not afraid to bring out the trills in the trumpets!
After hearing numerous recordings of the requiem, I have come to the conclusion that there are some pieces which can NOT be conducted by a pussy!
There will never be another Arturo Toscanini. Never.
11MURDOCH 1 year ago 5
I'm rather amused and somewhat bewildered by your choice of the word pussy I presume you are not referring to the female reproductive organ or a domestic feline, so you are most probably alluding to some lack of masculinity, which I really find totally inappropriate to the context and content of the Verdi Requiem which speaks to all humanity regardless of their gender or sexual orientation. I do agree that the performance reaches into the soul of Verdi's creation like no other to date.
CzarDodon 1 year ago
Well said; I'm glad some people around here are sensible. That being said, I'm not a huge fan of the trills, but the raw power is unmatched by any other recording I've heard.
eruresto90 1 year ago
could you be anymore pompous or pretentious?
sjwright76 1 year ago
Don't you know the difference between 'anymore' and 'any more'?
CzarDodon 1 year ago
@11MURDOCH I must say that the trumpets makes me imagine the picture of something fighting for its life, or something in despair, and it is something u can only notice in that interpretation, an amazing interpretation.
RCamposRafael 1 year ago
Non ci sono caramelle: Toscanini è tagliato su misura per Verdi: 5 stelle!
beginner57 2 years ago 3
history has not been kind to the great maestro...but his time WILL come again when he is truly appreciated for the towering conducting genius he was.
davecotuit 1 year ago 2
VAI !!!!!! VAI !!!!!!
Lipry90 2 years ago 3
géniale Toscanini et Verdi , c'est comment dire ... Superbe
bien mieux que ce que nous les jeunes écoutons à l'heure actuelle
ce requiem est de la musique .... ce que ma génération écoute et du bruit !
Milamber0659 2 years ago
Love the trumpets...
tubaniels 2 years ago
After what I've just heard, I can safely say I have never, and will never hear a better performance than that!!!
alphabetgreen1996 2 years ago 6
My God. Literally MY GOD! this song is performed by TSO (trans-siberian orchestra) album Night Castle. Needless to say, this original version swept me off my feets. and it is conducted by El Maestro, Sr Toscanini. It don't get much better than this You Tubers. FT
FellowTraveller 2 years ago
Great bass drum strokes at 0:17-0:20, they really sound destroying!
And Toscanini is in great form here...
herblich1 2 years ago 3
ellamadonna!
RikCastle 2 years ago 4
..e' immortale questa interpretazione....sembra di vedere e sentire VERDI in persona.....Gradissimo Toscanini, Grandissimo!!!
..e' impressionante....!!!
leonboelmann 2 years ago 3
Marie
Nous voilà au pied de ce chef d'oeuvre ...
T'embrasse
Francesca
Grazie a CzarDodon e a Maestro Toscanini ...
Buon Natale !
francesca7564 2 years ago
@francesca7564 Una interpretazione che resterà per sempre!
Il Dies Irae Verdi-Toscanini è un dono splendido per tutta l'umanità!
Grazie Francesca e grazie per il post
jeanmolin55 1 year ago 3
@jeanmolin55
Grazie Jean, et tu as vu qui sont les solistes ???
De la TRES GRANDE MUSIQUE !!!
francesca7564 1 year ago
QUANDO DIO SI INCAZZERA' PER DAVVERO
DIOCULA 2 years ago 6
...e saranno amari per Andreotti, Berlusconi & Co.
lent77cv 2 years ago
Io sono ateo.... lo era anche Verdi
CzarDodon 2 years ago
geniale
frapepsi 2 years ago
Verdi+Toscanini, una delle pagine più belle della storia della musica.
Complimenti questo è un regalo meraviglioso.
coriandolo60 2 years ago 13
Monsieur Toscanini
On ressort de cette audition les cheveux à la verticale !!!
Aucun mot n'est au point pour décrire ce qu'on ressent !
Con rispetto Signor ...
francesca7564 2 years ago
senza parole...!!!!!
arkimen1 2 years ago
Toscanini at 3:14
" LOUDER...LOUDER "
Ultimte Classical Rapture.
AjNeverDies 2 years ago 36
I'm not a huge fan of Toscanini's conducting but he did this better than anyone.
Lassann 2 years ago 2
The Maestro shouting at the orchestra at 3:14.....
sidecarural 2 years ago 4
@sidecarural thankyou for that I listened to that. That is part of the history of the phenomenon of Toscanini!
3NUNS 2 years ago
Taken from one of the rehearsals for the performance. As with most of the operas, rehearsal footage was spliced in with that of the actual performance to cover errors and other deficiencies which Toscanini heard. Without those splices, he would not have approved the release of the performance. (In the case of AIDA and BALLO, certain passages were re-recorded in 1954 with Nelli (both operas), Peerce (BALLO), and the NBC Symphony after the end of the broadcast season.
jmccracken1963 2 years ago
Una direzione carica di emotività ed un tumulto interiore manifestato attraverso la bacchetta. Arturo Toscanini, un temperamento ormai raro e perduto. Il coro non sempre a tempo ma intenso.
Il cast...non abbisogna di commenti, solo ovazioni!
monicaparma 2 years ago 3
What excitement when you hear him shout at the brass players "....louder...louder..." at 3:14/3:15!
strawberry6sj7 2 years ago 10
@strawberry6sj7
Yes, it's very audible. And the result is an earth shattering experience. My favourite version of the requiem that.
youtubister 2 years ago
It is interesting indeed. Great Toscanini. For me, this is the best recording of this Dies Irae.
Do you know if they recorded all of the Requiem?
LordMgls 2 years ago
I've posted the whole Requiem here, and there is also an earlier recording on YT
CzarDodon 2 years ago