very good explanation. i use sumi otoshi and uki otoshi very often in randori and they really work when you have good timing. you must break uke's balance, so that he has his weight on one foot and then throw with a whiplike pull and a push in a direction where he is weak.
btw this is still the best instruction i have ever seen on throws of this principle :-)
A friend asked me to look here, and the person who noted that the judo sumi otoshi is much like the aikido kuki nage is correct. Actually, one who tries sumi like this video will have a hard time in scoring: this is straight line, and aikido is circular. The trick of throwing with sumi in randori is to induce him to move around the point of the circle you represent. When he moves clockwise - to your left and around you, you throw to his right corner. Sorry - not enough space here to explain.
you cant get a better explanation then this....again as a baseline teaching. Of course the only way you can adjust this to your own repetoire is trial and error during randori. Great job on video
One of the things I was saying about this throw is using it in combination with Ouchi and Kouchi. Like all backwards throws when your opponent thinks that they have avoided the sweep they will usually try and use your forward momentum for a reversal. The dropping motion of Sumi O protects you from the reversal and more often then not their own momentum from their attempted reversal is carrying them right towards the corner all youve got to do is rise and push.
beatiful explanation for a show but it doesn't work that way in competition, people realize when you switch that grip.
You get to use a biceps grip with your left hand show a right forward throw then attack the sumi walking deep just like when going for a kosotogake, try that, works like a charm :)
Unfortunately, yes. Marius Pudjzanowski is the only human being to have ever used this move on a resisting opponent, and that was his 8 year old daughter.
I love this throw. I use it with a slightly different grip more insiade and I dont lead with it but its one of my go to combination throws with Ouchi and Kouchi. If they once I have them retreating backwards I drop down into a quick Sumi. If they somehow manage to keep ther ballance by getting their weight on the toes of their lead leg I'm free to go with Tai O and if the pull back I can go with Tani on their back leg.
nice technique i just strated ju jitsu verz nice throw
SuperLazar1991 5 months ago
that seems to throw ever so hard!
SARAHBBRIGHT 6 months ago
very useful, thank you
glassman530 7 months ago
REALLY excessive description... Focus on throw basics before going in to potential mistakes and how opponent counters it.
Ownedyou 8 months ago
thanks i was looking for this for a long time
MrKotaro100 9 months ago
very good explanation. i use sumi otoshi and uki otoshi very often in randori and they really work when you have good timing. you must break uke's balance, so that he has his weight on one foot and then throw with a whiplike pull and a push in a direction where he is weak.
btw this is still the best instruction i have ever seen on throws of this principle :-)
Pogenkohl 1 year ago
A friend asked me to look here, and the person who noted that the judo sumi otoshi is much like the aikido kuki nage is correct. Actually, one who tries sumi like this video will have a hard time in scoring: this is straight line, and aikido is circular. The trick of throwing with sumi in randori is to induce him to move around the point of the circle you represent. When he moves clockwise - to your left and around you, you throw to his right corner. Sorry - not enough space here to explain.
Jujigatamesan 1 year ago
you cant get a better explanation then this....again as a baseline teaching. Of course the only way you can adjust this to your own repetoire is trial and error during randori. Great job on video
chino66100 1 year ago
Can someone highlight the difference between this and kuki-nage?
Derukugi2 1 year ago
One of the things I was saying about this throw is using it in combination with Ouchi and Kouchi. Like all backwards throws when your opponent thinks that they have avoided the sweep they will usually try and use your forward momentum for a reversal. The dropping motion of Sumi O protects you from the reversal and more often then not their own momentum from their attempted reversal is carrying them right towards the corner all youve got to do is rise and push.
IskurBlast 1 year ago
Its also a great counter to Osoto.
IskurBlast 1 year ago
These days I practice sumi otoshi.
So what you taught is very helpful. Thanks!!
cascade0610 1 year ago
beatiful explanation for a show but it doesn't work that way in competition, people realize when you switch that grip.
You get to use a biceps grip with your left hand show a right forward throw then attack the sumi walking deep just like when going for a kosotogake, try that, works like a charm :)
ficote72 2 years ago
sorry, show a left forward throw, then when close attack the sumi
ficote72 2 years ago
very good stuff
allegropiano2000 2 years ago
Great Loshelder, you teach very well like every technique of Go Kyo
piero27761 2 years ago
Great video! What's the difference to a hiji otoshi?
Poelewoele 2 years ago
do u have to be strong to do this?
husslecozimhere 2 years ago
Unfortunately, yes. Marius Pudjzanowski is the only human being to have ever used this move on a resisting opponent, and that was his 8 year old daughter.
i would just stick to suplexes if i were you.
givebeesachance 2 years ago
@givebeesachance
I love this throw. I use it with a slightly different grip more insiade and I dont lead with it but its one of my go to combination throws with Ouchi and Kouchi. If they once I have them retreating backwards I drop down into a quick Sumi. If they somehow manage to keep ther ballance by getting their weight on the toes of their lead leg I'm free to go with Tai O and if the pull back I can go with Tani on their back leg.
IskurBlast 1 year ago
that's the best sumi otoshi demo i've seen yet...
banpreso 2 years ago
Thank you for sharing this. This is the most detailed explaination on this throw. You really cleared up a lot of concepts for me. Good stuff
carlosgrana 2 years ago
Great explaination. There are a lot of concepts I had missing in this technique thank you for sharing it.
carlosgrana 2 years ago
Great instruction, really appreciate it.
erikrass 2 years ago