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  • If this guy was born in NORTH KOREA , he would be a fanatic supporter of Kim -Jung - IL . What a pathetic worm. If born in Nazi Germany would be a devoted advocate of Adolf. These personalities just about wet themselves with snivelling obeidience when presented with power figures ( even imaginary ones ). And if said power figure said ''kill on my behalf '' kill they would . - - Cowards ! ! !

  • AMEN!!!

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    no me aparecen :S

  • Where arethe men who would go to a religious war ? They became educated over the past 500 years. You should try it.

  • Great message truly a blessing

  • They're waking up and throwing away the shackles of religion !!! They're sick and tired of the "suit and tie". They want truth and not fairy tales.

  • @MrBeautifulba1 funny how you imply that they found truth in a lie

  • 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

  • To all the scoffers here...the disciple Peter prophesied about you a longgg time ago: 3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.”

  • Dear John, the young men you are seeking are motivated by a different religion at the moment. Please stop inciting even more senseless radicalism.

  • @grubsnart

    Senseless radicalism? What is senseless about it?

  • @eltronrangamma, senseless like suicide bombers (be like Joab against Ammanites and Syrians? seriously?!?). Senseless like taking life and/or flinging it away at the apparent behest of one or another version of concocted deity. Esther, on the other hand, is a good example, but she had nothing to do with god, "god's people", or anything other than brave humanitarianism in the face of genocide. Good on her.

  • @grubsnart

    First of all. There are no Christian suicide bombers. Even if there are, Christianity does not teach it. Secondly, Christianity suggests that at the price of living true Christianity, you will be persecuted, and maybe even killed. It's just the way it is. Some martyrs see it as a privilege to die for their faith, perhaps for reasons that have to do with giving life and strength back to the church, but you don't have to see it that way as you are set on your beliefs about

  • @grubsnart

    god and humanity. It's funny you bring up the story of Esther, because in a way, Esther's example can serve as an analogue for martyrs--just as she gives her life for her people, the martyrs give up their life for the church. So in that sense, it's not that senseless at all.

  • Forums like this (the internet) will make it much more difficult for young people to believe in religion. The information age offers inquiry and discussion, this is something that has not happened before in history, religion was always off limits where you had to "respect" any and all claims made by the church.

  • To the "help me be like Piper, Lord!" prayers, don't be like Piper. Be like Christ. >_>

  • To all of the athiests that commented in this channel. God is real. Suck it up and deal with it. You know it's true and that science doesn't offer and will never offer anything to disprove God. What would a judge do at the end of your life? Either you go to Hell and suffer the consequences or your crimes against God or you can appreciate the fact that I am giving you the oppurtunity to accept Christ and live in Heaven.

  • I agree with what he is saying but, darn it, he is irritating to listen to. I definitely couldn't sit through one of his sermons.

  • They're out using logic and discovering science instead of succumbing to the delusions of an archaic desert religion.

  • @batmanpronz Succumbing to delusions...if its archaic then why is the message perfect?

  • @meer8 It's perfect? How?

  • @batmanpronz because it has survived over two thousand years of scrutiny and has remained unchanged. It doesn't contradict itself or is ever wrong. How do you know that what you believe isn't a delusion? Because some other man told you what he thought to be true?

  • @batmanpronz

    You're pretty much 200 years late my friend. The idea that science is mutually exclusive to religion and debunks religion is pretty much a dinosaur.

  • @eltronrangamma o rly?

  • @batmanpronz

    Yeah, mang. Good luck with ya batman pr0nz tho.

  • why are so many christian people just complete weirdos and selfish wackos who just wana post on their facebook status "GOD IS GREAT" so that they can feel like they're better than everyone.

  • @chiefmojorising1 By this post you are affirming that you are ''BETTER THAN" those Christians who are complete weirdos and selfish wackos who just wana post on their facebook status "GOD IS GREAT". If you are going to assert a thing please make sure you live by it also. Thanks for your time

  • @chiefmojorising1 There are many christians like that, unfortunatly ;) but many posts things like that also because they want to declare glory to God so that other may see it and be inspired to do the same :P

  • This JP guy doesn't know about the real world, where there are no gods. He thinks his imploring tone will teach us morality, which we have (thank you very much) without his fairy stories.

  • Going to the desiring God conference 2011 to listen to Rick Warren;). I'm tired of preachers who speak tough sermons at one time and use silver gloves when handling controversial preachers who use new age theology in there books. I think it wont be long that the real church will go undeground and small.

  • "Where are the faithful young men?"

    Probably sneaking round a gay bar with Ted Haggart.

  • Where are the faithful men and women? They're too busy becoming MAMMONITES.

    The christian church in America suffers from the disease of MAMMONITIS. They are trying to serve God and mammon at the same time and it doesn't work that way.

  • Hopefully all those dinosaurs have died out.

  • We have grown up John Piper. We have done the right thing, humbled ourselves, moved on and pleaded agnostic creationalist. I also notice you are not out there in the danger. You conveniently remain a christian celebrity. comfy. Why continue preaching to the quire when the gospel is the only thing we need to know? Why add other confusion and dogma? This has irritated our humility.

  • @dave1122drum Dave, John Piper has made it quite clear in his sermons that he would leave his church for the mission field at the drop of a hat if he felt his calling as a preacher was no longer needed. How would all of the missionaries receive encouragement from back home if all preachers went and became missionaries? Additionally, what exactly is an "agnostic creationalist?" One may be an agnostic or a creationist, but not both, as one is a positive claim while the other withholds judgement

  • @r10dalegend John Piper is conveniently saying he is called to be a preacher to avoid the mission field. Get encouraged by the bible alone. John Piper is a christian celebrity who has status, following and decent money. You think he is going to give that up to die? There all like that. Also, sorry there is such a thing as Agnostic Creationist. It is someone who believes there is a higher mysterious power that created the universe but who's identity remains unknown. Hence the Agnostic part.

  • @dave1122drum

    dave, you have no way of knowing the heart of this man. I find it interesting that you can claim to know the hearts of all famous preachers without having cognitive access to a single thought of theirs.Show me one action that John Piper has taken which betrays him as treasuring his ministry over Jesus Christ.There are thousands of well known Christ- treasuring Preachers in America. I've never heard of Agnostic Creationism, but if it really is a philosophical position, I apologize!

  • @r10dalegend "Agnostic Creationism" is just another way of saying "Intelligent Design." Both AG and ID are heresy because they try to support Creationism without mentioning God.

  • @mrchiefofsinners hey brother! I understand. I may disagree with you on that part. I don't think ID supports creationism necessarily, because it is not a Christian movement. It's simply a philosophical argument for a designer, whether the designer be Zeus, Allah, Aliens, etc.. I support it whole heartedly because it creates a cultural awareness of theism and its plausibility, which further creates a better environment for the fostering of Christian belief in which God may work.

  • @dave1122drum

    Mission field? Have you seen the state of religion in America?

  • @lmstrs Yea. It is all together corrupt. Christianity has over 38,000 denominations in it. If god were to ordain the bible to be inspired you think he would make it clearer so we understand and not cause so much confusion. Common sense. No religion is correct. Be humble and honest and just say.."I dont know".

  • @dave1122drum confusion amongst interpretation doesn't affirm the illegitimacy of anything. That's a bad argument. If you're consistent with that belief you wouldn't know anything, which will make this world unlivable.

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  • RELIGION = PERMANENT PURVEYORS OF PIFFLE

  • @evidenceonly. God bless you :)

  • @nluzwick1  YO

  • @evidenceonly - 1 Corinthians 3:19

  • @evidenceonly He is pretty educated. I wonder if that is true of you...

  • we need help. I need help. We need to stand

  • Break us of our sin and our self-will Lord, so we can hear you clearly and join the battle!

  • We are here, still fighting.

  • Amen, no one can serve two masters.

  • Time to remove which is that of the world to become which is that of God

  • Why is it harder to do this then to do something considered an accomplishment in our world ? Men like this are an accomplishment. I cant do this without God.

  • just pray fro me

    brothers

  • I want to be this type of woman!

  • Lord, I wish I, like Isaiah the son of Amos, might say to you, "Lord, I'm here, send me!"

  • Amen! Oh God give me such devotion.

  • I m glad I live in a country that lets me believe in god and worship him. But im starting to think that sometimes It makes me value it less idk.

  • Lord please bring me this type of man :)

  • Is it not just as bigoted, lord boojum, to assert your opinion? Is not your voice crying out "we have the truth!"? Are you really that different? You cleverly mask what is the antithesis to Christ. It's no coincidence that the satanist's motto is "Do as thou wilt".

    Matthew 18:6 "But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea".

    All WILL be judged!

  • Sunday! Sunday! Sunday! (and monday)!

    Lions with Guns!

    Pitted against, in a battle to the death, the Death Cult themselves:

    The Christians (without guns)!

    Not since the Romans (or maybe GenCon) have you seen so much blood and fur!!!!

    Seating Limited, reserve your tickets now!!!

  • Thanks! This is awesome!

  • Now this is purpose.Forget about "elite soldiers" these are the most elite or should i say soldier's soldier(but one of peace)?

  • I love this.Many young men seek glory(carnal), but this speech is so stirring it just makes you want to get up and give it all up(the world) and serve the Lord.This is the ultimate adventure. ...and if i perish,i perish. Praise be to God.

    Now that is living.

  • What is your purpose of saying things like this on youtube? Why are you so interested in what men believe? I dont understand why so many atheists care about these things when they shouldnt, something has to be behind it orchestrating it, I think that it is Satan, I honestly do.

  • Nope it is an effort to convert people to reason. The less people that believe this superstitious nonsense the better off civilization will be. Dogma dictates that you not question or reason that you just believe and accept, despite all evidence to the contrary which is not logical. We atheists have a moral imperative to educate others to teach them to reason from fact. Not faith. Faith is based 100% on assumption and an idea that an ambiguous book written centuries ago is unquestionable.

  • @lordboojum Perhaps you should learn and teach your fellow atheist what epistemological rationalism is. Revelation is nonrational not irrationtional, in rationalism anything that goes boyond human natural reasoning into the realm of mystery is rejected as irrational, not so. Maybe the idea of superstittion among seculars has some legitimacy when it comes to exposing false religions by science, but labeling every religion as superstitiion is a bit of an exaggeration.

  • @Pdrum2 That which is in the realm of mystery or outside the normal is paranormal and cannot be proven. So much of what religion postulates has been disproven (creation, the great flood, young earth, etc.) that any statement that the religious base (bible, koran, torah, etc.) is infallible has been made moot and leaves the religion open to criticism. Debunk the source via it's argument and not the source directly and it's authority is diminished and it's argument null and void.

  • @lordboojum I don't think civilizatoin is much better off now with the contributions made in philosophy, and moral bankruptcy, it's more like destroying  what made made man civilized in the first place degrading western civilization.

  • @Pdrum2 What made man civilized is advances in science and culture. Why does Western Civilization lead the way? Because we have the better technology. Ever notice that the nations that are the most impoverished and lacking in refinement are also the most plagued with illiteracy, low education and less secularism in government?

  • @TheRiclauren

    Not a man like john, a man like he's talking about.. lol.

  • I long to be a man like this. Lord help me, I am willing!

  • You will ;]

  • @soccermaster25 Just wish I could find the church who would get behind it!

  • God please make me this type of man!

  • @lewisw1 I want to be a man like this as well brother~ It's so HARD FATHER! You have the power Lord!

  • Whoever replies in defense of God, I ask that you would do so in peace.

    It is unfitting for those who call themselves a christian to respond in a way that is unworthy of Christ.

    Remember, pray for anyone you consider your enemy. Do not return evil for evil, but good for evil, as the holy scriptures state.

    (note: quoting a scripture does not share it's context. This isn't a very wise thing to do, since scripture is taken out of context daily)

  • They just joined the almost 20% of Americans who admit to having no faith John. Atheism is growing in the west faster than any religion.

  • I will not get into a comment war with you. I think you are trolling. From your comments above, you do not seem willing to engage in sensible debate.

    Please read John 4:6-7, Luke 2:7 and John 1:14. These show that Jesus became truly human. He was fully God and fully man. It is not shameful to say that as a baby he emerged from Mary's vagina, or that he was taught to clean himself as a child by Mary and Joseph. It is most glorious that Jesus humbled himself for our sake like this.

  • @fkghi what do you mean? do you think Jesus came to earth and didn't eat? He ate fish on the beach to prove to the disciples he was really there! He ate dinner with people! Defecation is not a sign of sin! Paul loves sinners, because he longs to tell them about the God who loves them too!

  • Wow, there sure are lots of deophobic people trolling around in the comment section.

    Thank you Dr. Piper.

  • Thank you Mr. Piper for not being ashamed of the gospel and motivating others to share and use all that is allotted them. I really enjoyed your Dont Waste Your Life sermon. I say enjoyed because it reminded me of where I have been slacking. Focusing on growing my businesses which will burn eventually, rather than growing/producing more fruit for Him (Matt 13:23). Of course every time I go witnessing I have knots in my side but the awesome glory that God receives is always worth it.

  • Listen to the knots, they are god's way of telling you to go home and stop humiliating yourself in public.

  • Yea, because in Islam fornication and drinking are only allowed in jennah..... :-) Christ forbade adultery and Rom. 13:13 prohibits intoxication. Muslim converts (Hamza Yusuf doesnt even agree with the term revert) have a huge probability of returning to their former religion. It doesnt matter though. The Qur'an says not to take Christians as good friends and the Bible says not to yolk with disbelievers.

  • 13:13 prohibits drunkness - or excess of alocohol :) not intoxication, per se

  • God's men are outside living not barking at vast echoing halls full of silent acolytes.

    You are a showman who justifies the attention he gets by insisting that it's 'god's work' but you would wilt and lose motivation if you didn't have the oxygen of all that focused attention on yourself. Not for you the quiet, invisible toil of a servant of god. Not being rewarded NOW for your 'sacrifices'-you wouldn't accept that.

    The stage, the lights and the rush of performing, thats why you are there.

  • hi, why do you say these things?

  • God told me to correct the barking showman. Why do you ask? Did you want to admonish him to? Did I steal the words from your mouth?

  • No. I just wanted a little more substance or reasoning; rather than a simple accusation. Anyone can accuse someone of anything... but you should prove it with something substantial. If he were to read that, he would not be edified, but insulted. So, why do you say these things?

  • Have you any idea how ludicrous the words " you should prove it with something substantial...." sound coming from a christian?

    I'm sorry if John Piper is insulted by the truth.

    I say these things because I can't stand to watch the people cheer a naked emperor.

    NOBODY is beyond criticism.

  • It is not ludicrous

    First Thessalonians 5:21 "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good"

    Do you not prove the scriptures? I bet you will turn to 1st Thessalonians chapter 5 to prove the context of this verse! So yes, prove it with something substantial!

    I guess I should just stick with the advice of Provers 9:8: "Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: ..."

    All I did was ask you why you say these things...

  • "Prove all things (except the existence of God);hold fast delusions that are good"

    I know Americans don't understand irony but the notion of a christian asking a modern scientific person for proof of anything is a classic example of it.

    I will show you all the proof you want if;

    1. You show me proof of the existence of God.

    2. You can open your eyes to the truth.

    All I did was answer your question... God told me to say these things, that's why I say them.

  • did you make that line up? a delusion is a false belief or opinion... why would I hold fast to a "good false belief" as you say? i'd like to know what Bible put in "(except the existence of God)"

    you appear to be a heretic who is stuck in his blasphemous ways

    God did not tell you to say these things, your flesh did.

    your constant insults shows your depravity and truly you cannot be a man of God. May God open your eyes to sound doctrine.

    Farewell, forever...

    you have the last word

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  • Yes it can be denied, I've seen with my own eyes Muslim Egyptians coming to Christianity like crazy. Adultery and drunkenness are strictly prohibited by the Bible. Just because you see those things in the West doesn't mean this is Christianity.Furthermore, to convert to Christianity in the Arab world means persecution, torture, and even death. No reason to become a Christian except that it's true. Tough facts.

    Like I said, for every Christian converts, 8 Muslim babies are born, not reverts

  • The Roman Catholic Church added a few books in the 13th century, we obviously don't consider those to be inspired (just as additions have been recently made to the koran). Other than that, there is one Bible with different English translations that are also called "versions." You can say whatever you want about the Bible, and many have tried to discredit it, it still stands firm.

  • Get your facts straight:

    1. The first recorded confession of faith was 3 years after the death of Christ. And the last recorded Gospel was about 35-40 years after the death of Christ (around 65 AD).

    2. We don't have different "versions" of the Bible that contradict each other, the different "versions" are different translations of the same God-inspired Bible, translated from the original languages. I thought you would know this one man.

    3. You haven't answered my question yet, I'm waiting

  • In case you've forgotten, let me reiterate:

    Are you familiar with how the koran was gathered? Uthman Ibn Affan ordered all the elders who had it memorized to write it down because they were dying. When the task was completed, not one version was similar to the other, so he burned all copies and kept only one which is the koran today. Does that sound like a holy, reliable book to you? Even so, assuming the koran was reliable, one man wrote it in one lifetime, and even so, it's not cohesive.

  • Also, true believers are supposed to be a minority in this world, because we're in the world but not of the world. However, there are more Christian converts that you can imagine. In the Arab world alone, more Muslims are coming to Christianity that you can imagine. I lived there and I know. Muslims are increasing only through birth (birth rate of about 8 kids per woman, as opposed to 1.8 for Christians). So to be more accurate, for everyone 1 Christian convert, you have 8 Muslim babies born.

  • In addition to the coercion of Islam. In the Middle East there are tons of deists, atheists, or seculars who don't care for religion, but have to remain quiet about it because of the nature of Islam. As Christians we believe no one is to be forced into believing anything, so whoever wants to leave can leave. Many many Muslims are Muslims not because they want to, but because they have to be

  • The Gospels were passed down through memory during the time of Jesus. Are you familiar with how the koran was gathered? Uthman Ibn Affan ordered all the elders who had it memorized to write it down because they were dying. When the task was completed, not one version was similar to the other, so he burned all copies and kept only one which is the koran today. Does that sound like a holy, reliable book to you? Even so, assuming the koran was reliable, one man wrote it, and it's not even cohesive.

  • Check this out. A Muslim cleric is talking about how six million Muslims in Africa alone are converting to Christianity every year. This is from the Arabic new station Al Jazeera. Search for "six Million Muslims Africa."

    Also, why don't you tell me how the koran was gathered?

  • The only church that elevated Mary is the Catholic church (which is wrong), but even they did not elevate her to the level of God. Muslims do not understand the Trinity, doesn't mean it's not true.Just like Mohammad, you are mistaken (the man didn't even know Christian theology).

    "But of the Son he says, 'Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom'" (Hebrews 1:8).

    Jesus left His throne only for a season.We believe that God can do anything

  • The Triune God is ONE God. Mohammad made the error of thinking the Trinity is Father, Mary, and Jesus. That is heretical and you can call is "association" or the Arabic work "sherk" and I would agree, because Mary is not God.

    "There is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved" (Acts 4:12).

    You have been warned. Repent.

  • The King Version is just a translation of the Bible. It's fine having errors in translating from the original Hebrew/Greek.

    "I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book" (Revelation 22:18-19).

  • Also, this is quickly turning into a foolish argument, which the Bible says to avoid, and we both know that we won't convince each other, so why don't you examine the evidence yourself, as I once did, and hope that God will be gracious to you and reveal Himself to you. And I will pray for you, nothing will bring me more pleasure than to meet you one day in heaven.

  • The entire New Testament talks about Jesus' deity. He is the God who took on human form, therefore the NT addresses Him as both God and Man. The Bible doesn't only say that He existed before Abraham, but that He existed eternally.

  • Volumes have been written about the Bible and its reliability. In fact, no book in this world has more manuscripts than the Bible does. It's followed only by Homer's Iliad, which has many less manuscripts. The koran doesn't come close to that, not to mention that it was written by one man who had 9 wives and countless concubines while commanding everyone to have 4 at most. Does that sound like a prophet to you? Why do you believe Mohammad?Because you grew up in a Muslim home?Not enough evidence.

  • The fact that you use such foul language shows how what kind of god you follow. Anyway, one of many passages where Jesus claims to be God is in Matthew 16:16-17. Jesus claimed to be God, backed those claims up by rising up from the dead. The koran on the other hand was compiled by Omar Ibn el Khatab when many of the people who had it memorized were dying, he then burned all copies except for one, which is the koran you have today. Does that sound reliable to you? Sounds like a joke to me.

  • Jesus has always existed, appearing to many in the Old Testament, He came to this world through birth. "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM. (John 8:58). As for the Luke passage, you should finish the verse: "it seemed fitting for me as well, having investigated everything carefully from the beginning, to write it out for you." The Bible was written by 40 men, inspired by God, and many of them died for what they saw. Mohammad was pagan. The word Allah is pagan; jaheleya age.

  • According to the Bible, Jesus was never created, He is the Almighy God, creator of the universe who took on human form to come and save many. I won't get into foolish arguments with you about it, but fact is that thousands of Muslims come to Christ every month through different methods. One of the many reasons I believe the Bible is that it was written by 40 different men over 1400 years with ONE cohesive message.The koran was written by one immoral man over his lifetime. Which is more reliable?

  • You're clearly not familiar with what's happening in the Middle East and Africa. Muslims are coming to Christ by the thousands annually in each Arab country in the Arab world with the exception of Saudi Arabia, and the numbers are increasing rapidly. To God be the glory forever! With love to my homeland of Egypt, where God is moving with might and great power. By the time you have finished reading this, many have already come to salvation in Christ Jesus.

  • Clearly you have not know how holy God is.

    Let me give you some examples:

    1.The seraphim cried out about the holiness of God and the temple's door post were shaken !

    2.Satan fears and trembles of the LORD !

    3.Lucifer wanted to be like God !

    God created all things ! He gave lives and He will take them back because it is His !

    Moral values are so corrupted that sexual immorality has gotten out of control. The 10 commandments are higher than any other moral laws.

    God alone is righteous

  • Clearly, you have little knowledge of the scripture. Everything you say ignores the presence of God. You cannot not argue against something you cannot relate to.

  • By all means educate me then. What did I say to make you believe that I "clearly have little knowledge of the scripture"?

    I cannot ignore the presence of God since I am unaware of any such presence, depending on your definition of the often ambiguous term "God".

    Furthermore the validity, soundness, and relevance of argument have no relation to the author's ability or inability to "relate" to the subject at hand. Arguments stand on their own, without reference to emotional states of individuals.

  • Do you realize that if Moses was here, he would likely kill you and your entire family for your heresy? That if he could he would destroy your entire town, every man, woman, child and animal?

    You silly man. Why reference Moses?!?

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  • The beginning of wisdom is the realization that one knows nothing, not the fear of god. I failed to capitalize that loathsome name for a reason. Namely:

    faith in god stands in opposition to good philosophy and the scientific process. Xenophanes of Colophon realized the falsity of divine revelation in the fifth century BC. When will the loathsome visage of faith cease to obscure humanity's view of truth as an ideal to be striven toward and not a goal already achieved?

  • This man is a dangerous demagogue, an unwitting con artist and a liar. Most deliciously paradoxical of all, he fails even to recognize that the net effect of all his "inspiring" preachments is retrograde.

  • God commanded me to kill all Christians, as that would bring them to heaven faster. So I am doing God will are all of your Christians  prepared for my divine judgment the task that God gave me?

  • God cannot command u to kill ppl becuz if u look at exodux 20:13 its said "you shall not murder" also the will of the father is NOT to get christians into heaven but to build his kingdom by preaching and spreading the gospel so u r wrong in both ways

  • You are wrong. You shall not murder. What about the Canaanites? Or any of the other genocides that God ordered?

  • well how do u noe if its from god? just becuz they sed it? u have to test the spirit or the fruit of the person's soul, also GOd would contracting Himself if he ordered ppl to kill others

  • \Well bingo that is the bible full of contradication. Do you know I can rape your sister, pay 50 sheckels to your dad and marry your sister, keeping her till I die?

  • well bingo! u need to study the scripture more becuz not every1 who say lord lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, which means not every1 who calls themsevles followers of God are real followers, only few will enter it (Matthew 7:13-14)

  • That is nice and all, but this is what it says in the bible. I am not talking about what any follower said. A nice example of your biblecal words.

    Deuteronomy 21:10-14

  • well tat is in the old testamont and most of the TRADITIONS in the old testamonts are old so we dont do those kind of things

  • No, we do not but it shows the bible is flawed. So no you want to cherry pick the word of the Lord. O no. Or the word inspired by the Lord at least. Tsk Tsk, if your bible is not 100% then how can you be a believer, when it contradicts current society?

  • in deuteronomy 22:28-29, b4 Jesus Christ died for us on the cross, we had to pay offerings becuz we need to pay for wat we done against the lord, there had to be justice, and who could only pay for all sins of the ppl? God's own beloved, Jesus could only pay for our sins so tats y i follow God becuz he shown me mercy

  • also the bible contradicts current society becuz it has to, God sed do not love the things of this world becuz who ever loves the world does not love the father. (1 John 2:15-16) I am not saying everything in the world is bad but the influences it has are dangerous. Also I am not saying go around killing, raping ppl becuz tats loving the world too since u want the pleasures of this world like sex and being jealous of ppl

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  • Deuteronomy 22:28-29

    This is what I was looking for. I suggest you read that careful my young padawan. As it will learn you what I can do to your sister by biblical law

  • also i 4get to add, he had to marry the girl becuz he had sexual intercourse with her and God said not to commit adultry, so if u marry tat person it will not be considered an adultry

  • You are insane, you know how it will feel for the girl. First she was raped and now she has to live forever with her rapist. Whoot!! horror everyday! You are insane thinking that is a good thing.

  • of course its not, but back in the time ppl were more scared of God's Justice becuz they saw wat God can do and by marrying he could be sinless, and he cannot rape another person becuz if he does then he cant get out becuz he cant divorce the first wife so he will recieve the Justice of God. The only reason why u dont c ppl dying randomly of the street by God is becuz Jesus payed for our sins and by showing mercy men and women could believe and follow God.

  • Does not make it right. You are insane condoning the bible just because it is the bible. It is okay to rape in olden times! WTF!! You do not know what you are talking about. You have no morals. I am glad that I do not follow a fake image, that was made by man, to fuffil their wicked deeds in the past. You are beyond help, and insane, seek help from this illness of religion. Or get raped and then try to look at it the same way. You insulting bastard.

  • i nver said it was ok to rape ppl i sed tat since he fell into temptation of sexual sin and he realized wat evil he has done, he wants forgiveness, ur just jumping into conclusions. I never said its ok but sometimes ppl realize wat horrible thing they done and they want forgiveness from GOd. Also the sins tat a rapist commited wieghts the same as of ur or my sins. If u looked at a girl or guy if ur a girl lustfully tats commiting adultry rite there.

  • ur just jumping into conclusions now becuz u realized tat u ran out of ideas or arguements. I never like seeing ppl in pain, its horrible but if the person who commited the crime or sin wants TRUE GENUINE forgiveness then i will be willing to forgive even though its going to be hard

  • also u sed does not make it right, does not make it right wat? to rape ppl? of course. But does not make it right to forgive ppl?! tats real maddness rite there. have u ever went against ur parents demands or requests? of course u did, if u didnt then ur not human. But even after u cursed at ur parents, ur parents are still willing to forgive dont they? Just like how a child make mistakes and parents forgive tat child, God forgives EVERY1 if they are sry for wat they have done.

  • Why don't many of these pastor guys just talk normal? They drive people away just with their annoying voices.

  • Its more their annoying pronouncements about knowing the mind of the creator that drives people away .

  • its all that meth crystal and gay blow jobs that make em talk funny,that and the fact he's talking a load of shit white noise anyway.

    Jebus and the spagetti monster for the win!

  • just dont watch it then fool.

  • Piper,Washer,James White,John McArther all preach the truth.

  • Don't forget Mark Driscol, Matt Chandler, Voddie Bacham, ect.

  • does anybody know where john piper preaches

  • Bethleham Baptist Church in Minneapolis, MN.

  • Excellent! God bless!

  • funny you say that i just watched a video where they were doing a q&a and marc driscoll was making fun of him for only having 2 suits.. and shopping at savers which is i'm sure a thrift store.. Piper mentioned how he paid 5 dollars for the suit he currently had on..

    i'm sure the money he earns from whatever is used for the glory of god and that alone..

    special verse 4 u

    1 corinthians3:17If anyone destroys Gods temple, God will destroy him. For Gods temple is holy, and you are that temple.

  • What in the world are you talking about????....

    Its quite obviously you who are living in a disillusion, oblivious and ignorant to what your talking about.

    John Piper could indeed get a lot of money out of his ministry but he loves in a modest small house and takes very little out of his ministry for his family.

    This is proven plenty of places on the web as well as form piper himself who even gives specific numbers.

    Please know what your talking about first...

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