Minigun's Blink Stalker All-in - Starcraft 2

[chupzzzzz]

the zerg could have just used a nydus on him in his main base at the 7 min mark and won. and he wouldn't have been able to scout it either

[XxSoulRazoRxX]

@chupzzzzz I didint know the players can see the whole map at all times in this game.

[kasp9451]

god that was so fucking hot.

[SnorlaxSnoresHere]

CHAD MOTHERFUCKER JONES!

[insanitywhite]

@SnorlaxSnoresHere motherfucking*

[AllstarHunE]

HOLY FUCKING FORCEFIELDS

[EternalAu]

force feilds pretty good.

[grutien432]

I hear moaning in the background

[KuroiGaruga]

Oh shit, gotta turn on catsgroove

[Sydberg]

I am a zerg player but I just love watching minigun play. So nice

[Sandouras]

So nasty... Its beautiful!

[AssFragger]

And why is it a all-in?

[val3dlv]

@AssFragger Because if you loose your army, the Zerg buttfucks you in 15 seconds.

[ripchuchin]

Not looking for harass but rather the kill so the rest of his money is spent on units to end the game rather than prolong it.....

[TheFreeWillyx]

force fields are OP as fuck



[AssFragger]

@TheFreeWillyx You are probally just a angry zergling...

[Lelandificationable]

THAT WAS SO IMPRESSIVE.. not even slightly sarcastic btw good job

[timdoozy]

DONT TELL ANYONE ITS MY STRAT, YOU HEAR? MINE!

[MrEdredsds]

how do you do this build?

[Stratocasterhead51]

oh dear, well protoss sentries are probably going to get nerfed quite heavily soon then :( and i cant say without reason cos credit to minigun cos this strat is lethal, but im afraid if u can govern the battlefield this easily for this long force field is just broken, it just is, way too powerful

[jonathanshir]

@Stratocasterhead51 FF compensates for unit cost, and I doubt it will get nerfed. Remember, all toss units cost a lot, including sentries, which are 100 gas. 100 gas is 2nd tier, and in order to fully sustain 1 FF for an unlimited time you need 4 sentries. 400 gas. I think that it is fairly balanced considering the amount of units zerg and terran can pump out while the protoss can do much less number-wise, so they compromise for it with unit efficiency.

[Trizzlah]

@Stratocasterhead51 before you say something is broken please consider that the other player didn't scout very well and did not make the correct judgement of his enemy thus he couldn't have known this was coming, I bet if he knew the match would of ended differently.

[Infiltration36]

holy warp prism batman!

[Trogdora]

An amazing replay, but I think teching up to collusus at home and keeping them at the front door to melt those zerglings would have been a good play.

[xxSeba99]

Stop it man, you're gonna get protoss nerfedddd!

[forgiven12]

Just don't let Protoss advance far enough to FF your ramp. Once you get enough ultralisks + infestors, it matters little how many blinkstalkers or sentries they've got.

[jonathanshir]

@forgiven12 You cant tech to ultras and infestors in 10 minutes. Sentries are tier 2.

[ESIFaKiE]

@jonathanshir no

[jonathanshir]

@ESIFaKiE Pardon me darling?

[jorge12app]

@forgiven12 holy fuck is that a dumb comment...

[blackoutGG]

SICK !

[Austafarianism]

LOL at the Artosis pylon at expo wall

[cha12225]

That is the most sexist thing i have ever saw, much more sexy than Megan Fox lying on your bed at night naked.

[MrManmyhh]

@cha12225 disagree.

[BradJHonn]

@cha12225 I can't imagine how that could ever be possible O.o

[KLNDR]

Zerg player. Just shit myself at how scary that was.

[Revelatus]

that was beautiful

[krneki6954]

how the hell can u say those ff were good? he constantly used 2 to ff the ramp, that only needs 1!!! obviously you are one of those who always say "omg great ff" whenever he sees one

[Spikeypanda]

@krneki6954 lol at the rage :D

[MrManmyhh]

@krneki6954 you need two on this map you retard

[lassdasoelfass]

And let the OP whining begin....

[marcusrehn]

probrem?

[markatwar]

erm ff is stupid and ez ?....

[skillz0122]

Those Force Fields were so retarded that if I had never seen a game of Starcraft 2 before today I would have thought it was an exploit.

[kamikrazi123]

Fuck u blizzard for making a stupid shit positional spell like FF. I knew that shit was strong when I first saw that fucking unit. (and stfu about "oh ur just noob and don't know how to play", bitch im mid tier masters). Just take a look at how BW had positional spells that actually rewarded mechanics compared to this shit.

[SilentXStarcraft]

@kamikrazi123 Someone is butthurt

just cause you whine about it on a utube vid doesnt make blizz nerf it

[kamikrazi123]

@SilentXStarcraft I dun give a fuck if I'm whining, it has nothing to do with the validity of what I'm saying. If Hitler was OP, you dun tell the Jews to stop bitching!!

[blitzer090909]

Those were some of the best Force Fields i have seen in a long time, well played indeed

[AccordionTheif]

Wow. Minigun is really fucking good...

[lzrd0113]

Wow. Just wow.

[ButCritically]

forcefields are balanced.

jkjk i know ULTRAS can break forcefields.

[MrPumpkinss]

@ShinobiDaNinja

Minigun called it an all-in and I'm assuming that's why the video name is "Minigun's Blink Stalker All-in"

4:55 for reference

[ShinobiDaNinja]

How is this an all in? This is more like a 2 base timing push, even if minigun got defended against he was in no meens out of this game. All in is the wrong word for the title.

[Saukkomestari]

Lol, minigun has someone named david kim in his friendlist, same name as the balance developer of sc2... coinceidence or the real guy?

[Cyb3rh4k3r]

is the replay hosted anywhere?

[jinzerd]

jesus christ people really dont know what all in means

[Bloppercop22]

@jinzerd it was an all in. if he lost those stalkers the lings would've came and killed him.

[filename84]

@Bloppercop22 the lings did go for the counter and failed

[Purrebark]

YOUR BASE GOD DAMNIT!

[torchohanger]

This is Spoon's build, not Minigun's.

[tjeragnarok]

You have not enough minerals.

[NaTMis]

The build mainly worked because I played ignorantly and pretty much didn't scout the entire time. The forge timing that I saw being chronoed etc I assumed +2 blink stalker, and when i saw limited sentries it supported that theory. I lazied out, didnt build an overseer, and paid for it. is this game imbalanced? no. i just played lazy and paid for it T_T

[asphyxiafeeling]

that was fucking awesome. TIME TO DITCH Z, GO WITH P

[TomK0201]

The point isn't the positioning or composition or anything - it's the fact that force fields can quite literally win games. Even if he had lings in his base, he would have just walled the ramp and delayed his expand/delayed it long enough to out macro. Yes minigun is a good protoss, but the zerg had what blizzard list has a hard-counter, and a lot of it, and gets beat because of a unit that's ability may as well read "map control".

[fortunadodesperado]

That was one of the best protoss strats I have seen in sc2.

[Zelkathz]

@fortunadodesperado its NEXSickness's style.

[Tommeh101101]

That was insane!

[simon147snooker]

look, miniguns is a great player, and he beat a very good zerg, maybe the zerg could have done things differently to break the protoss wall, but hey, look at lower leagues, if you study this build and do it in let's say plat, wow u would pwn sum newbies for sure:) nice strat minigun, ur a very creative player! <3

[SkyIineGTR]

fucking got goosebumps.. sick shit

[dcoxen]

I think the best way for zerg to counter this is to have full vision of ur main and better map vision and control in general. If the zerg had spread his overlords out more, rather than having them all clumped up in his main, he probably would have seen the warp prism and been able to react in time with his lings.

[munchy258]

this is proof, that you cant win on 2 base mass lings if your opponent knows what a forcefield is

[sirfreakish]

What could that zerg have possibly have done

[rioleo533]

@sirfreakish Roaches

[sirfreakish]

@rioleo533 You better hope he had roaches inside of his base already or researched burrow

[rioleo533]

@sirfreakish He could have instead of all those lings. The problem was scouting. He never saw all those stalkers coming.

[NaTMis]

I was the guy he did this to, kinda hard to scout, but for the most part, it can be prevented if I had made an overseer I assumed some kidna +2 blink timing was coming, just didn't see this coming LMAO

[depletable]

That was sick as fuck.

[Hindsy94]

Lings had no chance to do anything throughout the game xD

[Youcansuckme69]

This is why I have this map vetoed. Those damn gay ass fucking cliffs man.

[TausMunk]

@CavaderYT Don't expect them to nerf forcefields.

[Nickschades]

wouldnt early roach push roll this? like 2 sentries 1 cannon at 6 min???

[Youcansuckme69]

@Nickschades 2 sentries can FF the roaches long enough for reinforcements. Forge first FE is very strong on this map, because of the super long distance that those roaches have to run. It's literally from one corner of the map to the other.

[Nickschades]

@Youcansuckme69 the ramp is wide, takes twice the energy to ff so even less time than usual. moreover he only had 1 gateway, so where do the reinforcements come from? if he had a warning, it might be different, but without map control he wouldn't even have any warning. im sure miniguns a much better player than i (only diamond), but im sure if i tried a FFE with 2 sentry macro id get rolled.

[Moogeled]

@Nickschades He had 2 gateways in the main.

[Nickschades]

@Moogeled yeah but they were after robo and tc! which would be late compared to standard build. BUUUT I neglected the 5min zealot scout which was plugs the information hole i was considering

[Youcansuckme69]

@Nickschades As the zerg walks his slow roaches across the map you will be making more and more units. When he gets there, you FF and you have even MORE units when he comes into your base. Not only that, but you have cannons which if placed correctly can outrange roaches until the wall is destroyed. If he reinforces his push, his roaches will have to run all the way across the map, while the toss units get to spawn in immediately.

[CARPELOVERXX]

Ok before i loved husky day9 huk and boxer... Destiny is going on the list as my zerg fav :D

[Jojojojof]

I like how the link still says ROOTMinigun.

[Ninjamonkeypirates]

Why does everything echo more than usual?

[DreamsOfWastelands]

This isn't minigun's, there was a TL thread on it before this happened...

[NickVids1313]

EZ

[DylanGtuts]

That was amazing

[SocietyOfSensation]

people crying about the map...there loads of maps where this strat would work...blink in and FF ramp, thats about every map out there

[soulofshiver]

Since when was a 2-base push a, "all-in"?

[NagaRunFast]

@soulofshiver all-in is basically what it means. All in push. You lose that fight its over

[20dollarshirt]

Major echo going on

[DarkMysticz]

Those force fields...wow.

[Repanocho]

@DarkMysticz ye, all of them were bad positioned

[Capeau]

@DarkMysticz

infestors need a nerf though

[kamikrazi123]

@Capeau Blizzard botched spells in this sequel; darkswarm, plague, maelstrom, disruption web, stasis, ensnare vs FF, fungal, PDD. HotS better fix this shit

[blueboiftw]

@kamikrazi123 holy shit. you have to realize that sc2 is a completely different game than sc:bw

if they reused so many things, they might as well have called it an expansion.

[mariobanane12312]

minigun i wish u die in a fire

[LintyHaloHunter]

@mariobanane12312 Douchebag i wish u smart in youtube.

[TausMunk]

@mariobanane12312 ...Why?

[nkedgun1011]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[XMrXv]

I saw this on stream :D

[BlazingsNL]

Is the sound echoed for anyone else too?

[bloodsuckern]

@BlazingsNL nope, your plugincontainer duped itself

[BlazingsNL]

@bloodsuckern Lol weird.. it's only with the last two videos from this channel o.o

[TheDisabledCube]

@BlazingsNL no

[iDaboox]

thats an epic strat :D

[pchobo]

"You have not enough minerals" STFUUUUUUUUUU-

[GreatVomitto]

herp derp press F

[Ros718]

Incredibly cool!

[Milkandcookeys]

Remixed sound... nice...

[Mardolin]

that's why protoss is op..

[SatoshiAnime]

@Mardolin You do know protos have the lowest win rate atm yh? :P Go look at the stats on team liquid ^^

[Mardolin]

@SatoshiAnime because.. like idra said.. protoss players are fucking retarded ;) they don't do shit like this.. i never saw a warpprism in ladder.. maybe in the lategame to harass some bases.. but that doesn't do anything at all, maybe kill some drones.. whatever.. . and I get countered alot with roach/infestor.. they just use storms and feedback to counter it, it's really easy to win as protoss, IF you use the right units ;)

[SatoshiAnime]

@Mardolin If your going to use "bad players" as an excuse then explain to me why in the GSL out of the final 16 there was only one protos :) Those are top korean players to your excuse is no longer valid ;)

And there are certainly not a lack of incredible protos players on korea :)

[EditZP]

@Mardolin This is a flaw with the map not the races -_____- I do hate it when people accuse a certain race of being OP... It shows a level of immaturity. If anything the problem is Map ^^ remember Desert Oasis? ^^ It was almost impossible to get an expansion because zerglings could so easily get everywhere on the map. That didn't make zerg OP it just showed that zerg could exploit the map.

[Mardolin]

@EditZP agreed. i played this map yesterday against a protoss, he spawns at the north, i spawn at the east... now.. my third is in tank-range of his main.. just sayin', and his third is completely safe.. and i got raped by mass stalkers who went trough the rocks... but this is absolutly bullshit, i veto this map from now on ;)

[Tuthur]

@EditZP this cute build works on every map with a choke (big or not) from main to natural, so that means more than half of the current map pool.

[TausMunk]

@Mardolin Your stupidity is infinite. Especially for quoting IdrA. Fact of the matter is that certain Protoss players (White-Ra) have begun using the Warp Prism, just like Zerg has begun to learn to use drops themselves. Fact of the matter, however, is that Force Fields are the only reason Protoss don't get obliterated in 9/10 fights vs a zerg, except for ultra lategame battles and IST composition battles. It also takes a fair amount of skill to use FF effeciently, compared to Zerg's a-move.

[BruteChieftainSUX]

@TausMunk every race has it's advantages why not use them?

[TausMunk]

@BruteChieftainSUX Oh I agree, definitely. But the game is young, so all this "YOU GUYS ARE RETARDED FOR NOT USING WARP PRISMS TO THEIR FULL EXTEND" pisses me off, because people didn't learn to use Science Vessels instantly either in BW, nor have zergs grasped the full potential of Overlord drops yet (I think so anyway). My point is simply that I become very ragey when some fucking retard thinks IdrA's ramblings are worth jack shit more than 10% of the time.

[TausMunk]

@BruteChieftainSUX Especially so when it's just everyone playing Protoss that are fucking retarded, apparently, because we just don't play proper apparently. Back then when IdrA ALWAYS did the hydra/roach macro game, surely we were just OP when a Protoss beat his shitty composition. Now, however, when protoss has a <40% win rate in PvZ and PvT in the GSL, we're the retards. You see my point?

[BruteChieftainSUX]

@TausMunk yeah, the games just going to keep evolving more and more things will be used and some thigns wont be used, but I dont like it when people complain any race is "OP" their is no auto-win race people just dont take advantage of counters, some protoss complain its hard to stop infestors, well yeah only 4 High templar wont be able to feedback 17infestors lol people just need to play better, and thats for every race

[TausMunk]

@BruteChieftainSUX Yup, just so. Instead of trying to bang your head against the wall, try finding a way to go around it.

[BruteChieftainSUX]

@TausMunk its just common sense, only ignorant people say "ohh zerg is the best unstoppable" or "protoss is the easiest race to play and the best" or "terran is so OP" if you lose just watch your replay and see what you could do differntly instead of blaming the game

[AssManV2]

@BruteChieftainSUX by your logic, the game is completely 100% balanced. Do you really believe that?

[piew101]

@BruteChieftainSUX Zerg is Nerf in early game but strong in 200/200 armies.Protoss is the "Easiest" to learn because it has the easiest build,4 gate. Terran was OP but now it's balanced(Until Heart Of The Swarm).

[TausMunk]

@piew101 I lol'd, are you fucking stupid? So what, all Protoss just 4gate, done deal? Sure, back then when the 4gate was overpowered most did, but certainly not now that it's an all-in.

[MrComputerXO]

@BruteChieftainSUX in bw yeh watching ur replay u'll notice staggering mistakes and general missteps that can be fixed that was no fault of the game because the game/maps/units/spellcasters were all fairly balanced. SC2 is not at that stage especially with the current map pool and game design. for example. 1/1/1 has at the least, 3 variations that toss cannot scout early unless they 1 base robo. In which case u would die to the 1/1/1 anyway.

[MrComputerXO]

@BruteChieftainSUX If u tried a 3 gate or 4 gate build u would straight up die to 2 rax FE or be so far behind economically, T could literally mass ravens and kill you. It makes even less sense when the counter build to an all-in is another all-in and you need to guess whether the all-in is coming. This is even more stupid when zergs have been doing this since forever. The game is not terribly broken, but please don't pretend like every dumb loss is a human mistake.

[CrankLee]

@BruteChieftainSUX i disagree, terran is op and protoss is the easiest to play. Zerg is the hardest to play and only has potential on a master/grandmaster level.

[georgiewickham]

@CrankLee zerg can be played very well at lower levels, the player just has to have good expansion management and keep injecting larva like a boss and every whines that terran is op but terrans can be defeated by SMART PLAY, at high levels good scouting, knowning what is comming and getting good counters means you'll win no matter what race you play. although i will admit protoss is the easiest as it requires the least apm

[BruteChieftainSUX]

@CrankLee im in masters, are you? my zerg vs your terran? or protoss

[CrankLee]

@BruteChieftainSUX im diamond and i only play zerg

[BruteChieftainSUX]

@CrankLee alright

[ThirteenthOwl]

@BruteChieftainSUX with the exception of the terran 1/1/1 which has been called extremely op by many Korean pro terrans

[OdinUser]

@TausMunk Ahahahaha...

Oh wait, you were serious. Let me laugh harder. AHAHAHAHAHA

[TausMunk]

@OdinUser Nice argument, bro. I was sure I was right, but then that amazing logic just swayed me.

[dcoxen]

@TausMunk Ya i dont think you have ever played zerg if you think they just a-move...

[TausMunk]

@dcoxen Excuse me, do fundemental positioning, get a nice choke, a-move.

[dcoxen]

@TausMunk Zerg benefit from getting a surround, protoss benefit from fighting at a choke. This is one of the basic ideas behind protoss and zerg. If zerg just a move, its much harder to get a surround. In addition, many protoss and terrans have walls, which zerglings tend to do bad against. This is something most bronze league players already know. As a wise man once said, "I can't tell if you're stupid, or just a troll."

[TausMunk]

@dcoxen Oh shit, an internet meme, you must be smart. But no, really, several zerg units do well if they get to sandwich the Protoss army, for instance, simply because the Force Fields become obsolete then. A Roach/hydra based army also, however, does well if it gets to stand in a nice wide concave against the protoss army in a choke (this rule is practically universal for ranged units), and a infestor roach army also destroys if the enemy units are cramped up in a tight space.

[CrankLee]

@TausMunk when zerg a-moves they lose automatically. Unless it is very early on for some cheesy rush build (i.e 6 pool).

[Hraffnir]

Amazing. O_O

[thebole123]

LOL wery cool :D

[Kassidar]

nice echo

[RaDleySkidbeater]

FF IS TO GOOD

[DisabledDinosawr]

This build does not work, its exactly the same as the 6 gate stalker build zerg can go 3 base no base and rape you.

[Fobber92]

this is some sick shit!!! :)

[SigtunaStarcrafters]

coolish!

[RudyBeoulve]

That was pretty pro.

[pbisaI]

force fields are stupid

[kimuoi85]

This makes me remember how much I hate force field

[schwegburt]

Wow that's a pretty cool maneuver.

To all the Zerg whiners . . . I heard your demi-god Idra thinks the map's ok.

[ParklaneKarma]

wow. good strat I must say. Shame I play zergie =3

[CuPants]

Idk how blocking someone out of their base for 5 min straight is fair, but w/e.

[PiemanXX]

This is another reason why Zerg should always thumb down Antiga.

[yutopia88]

@PiemanXX This is why zerg should always thumbs down maps with ramps... oh wait

[PiemanXX]

@yutopia88 It's the incredibly easy defended natural with FFE that makes rushes like this viable.

[ikillx]

@PiemanXX Are you really gonna blame the map for his strat?

[Tretts121]

@vincenthall ooooook budd

[MrCaptainprice]

sick

[shruikan123456789]

More from him plz

[Toobmeal]

i can't wait for every protoss build order faggot to recite this strat repeatedly on ladder

[azir64]

@Toobmeal good luck with that , 7-8 pool, one base roach 2 base infestor would have owned it