See, it was the Qing Manchu themselves who created the notion of Zhonghua Minzu(supra-cluster Chinese race) which include Han, Hui, Manchu, Mongol, Tibetan, Uigyur. So how can Manchu now deny they are not Chinese and Manchuria not part of China?
part 3/3 successors of Shunzhi inherit this emperors view about their identity. In fact, they even became more willing to accept their identities of being Chinese emperors. Throughout the middle period of Qing Dynasty emperors were fighting against chinese nationalists who disown them and cover their alien history. In the later peroid of this Dynasty, Qing had always be happy to use the name of "middle kingdom", which identify with China
part2/3 when manchurian seized Chinnese capital city Beijing in 1644, they decided move their capital city here and then conquer the whole China. The identity of this empire was then one of the major issues that the new owner of Beijing faces, that was would they rule China as alien invader or would they claim themselves the successor of the former Chinese Ming Dynasty? They chosen to be the latter-the new lord of China, that's why a second coronation came to the emperor.
part1/3 Your boys let me tell you something about history. The third lord of Qing, Shunzhi emperor, was a special one in history because he went through two coronations, one in Shengyang, the capital of Manchuria and another in Beijing, the capital of China. Why should one emperor have two coronations? The answer is he was the Lord of Both Empires - Manchuria and China
come on! chinese is group of manchu, inner mogol, turkistan, tibet, hans, together call chinese, is a tittle name of a country . lear more history dumass, chinese was name the country after the fall of qing in 1911, and before that the country was call, ming, qing ,song,yang, tang, han......is the name of a dynasty country, not not chinese. GO AND LOOK A THE MAPS
The British knew if Tibet (Close to British India) was under their influence they could have more leverage when dealing with china. The Russian was rumoured to be interested in Tibet too. So the British bribed the Dali Lama (promies him power and so on, Qing government has thrown him out due to previous dealings with the British) and gave him weapons. Once returned to Tibet Dali Lama rule it like a hell hole. Him and his monks were god and all the commoners were slaves and serf with no rights.
The Chinese did not rule any better than Tibet at that time. According to standard of that time, the Dalai Lama at that time (during the late 1800s) actually ruled pretty well. The Dalai Lama accepted British terms for the good of Tibet (he dont have responsibility to make China/ Qing happy). Moreover, most of the world at that time were hellhole. You honestly think the Chinese were any better; not enslaving their own people at that time as well?
The last qing emperor surrendered all their territories to the chinese provisional government in 1912 when puyi abdicated the throne. Manchuria never declare independence until the japanese illegally annexed it. The crazy russian ungern invaded mongolia in 1921. The chinese try to stop him but at that time china was a mess. So ungern became mongolia's dictator. And not too long later the russian setup a puppet communist regime.
with your logic then modern americans should fuck off back to where ever they came from and let the native americans have their land back including canada! australia, france and any fucking country that extended their boundris into another
you should stop moaning as this is a cycle of humans if you lose land because you can't protect it means its no longer yours because you where fucking weak to defend.
Chinese is a common term with many ethnic groups. Manchu and Mongo are among some of the ethnic groups as well as the Han. Qing and Yue dynasties are part of the chinese history. It's not that the chinese stole the histories of Qing or Yue.
Ok, but they spoke Chinses and retain the Chinese culture as their own. Many dynasties invaded each other, but at the end of the day, they were all Chinese.
a video about manchu history with classical western music, and a lot of maps with english on it, at least you can use some manchurian maps... i will even accept mongolian maps
I agree to this. The Yuan and the Qing were not part of Chinese Dynasties becuz they were Mogolian and Manchurian, not the Han lol Dont know y China always claim that these 2 dynasties were Chinese Dynasties. If the hinese make a claim like this the the VN can say the same that there wasn't any 1000 years of Chinese dominating in VN huh??
It is funny to see how this video made Han Chinese so upset! lol
It is hard for Han people to accept their embarrassing history. As a Chinese, I believe China is home for many different races, NOT MINORITIES (I hate that word) through history. But today, the Han Chinese people think and try to make Chinese history as Han History. It is natural that every group has some ups and downs in history, and one should not think that his/her past is just glorious all the time. calm down, think realistic
This whole vdieo is a fake. THis video maker makes this video from his/her own fantasies. Where is your evidence or proof of what you are saying??????? Where is the real sources. I hope you aren't pointing to ones that your peole wrote as evidences. LOL laugh. THis video is not make by any mongolians, manchurians, Tibetians, Russians or those people that live in western china. This video is made by CHeon1son. A fucking idiot korean retard. Cheon1son = realtruehistory.
his wondrousjapan2009 account is gone cause so many people laughing at him. He has multiple accounts. He got defeated that is why his channel do not allows comment.
no, because the Indians Speaks English as a result of British mastery. but the Chinese does not speak manchurian, instead, manchus today speaks Chinese.
Lol its funny how chineses are denying the truth. that China was colony of Qing dynasty. almost all historians except for some chinks accept that qing is not china.
@racistbitch1 , most of chinese are HAN descendants, only the Royal family are from Mongolia..a minority compared to all the Han people in china , plus ..QING surrendered later anyways...it doesn't even matter anymore.
@racistbitch1 I noticed the map shown indicated Ming as China when Ming is only Han ruled. You can see Qing is not part of China if you refer Ming as China as Qing is not part of Ming( the name we call our nation during Ming Dynasty). But we say Qing is part of China as the China I meant here is not the Ming Dynasty or other Han ruled Dynasty nut China being Zhongguo(name we call our nation today).
Are you a slave of the western world? Why dont you ware kimono all the damn times? lol, geesh, even kimono is a variant of Hanfu, by your logic, arent you saying that you are dogs of Han nations?
during ming dynasty, jurchen( manchu) tribes were conquered by emperor yongle and forced to submit to han ming dynasty. therefore, manchu was han slave before they conquered shit
See, it was the Qing Manchu themselves who created the notion of Zhonghua Minzu(supra-cluster Chinese race) which include Han, Hui, Manchu, Mongol, Tibetan, Uigyur. So how can Manchu now deny they are not Chinese and Manchuria not part of China?
theboyuan0jcfan 1 year ago 59
the manchu conquered china,but the chinese still influenced the manchu greatly. even the manchu language was taken over by the chinese language
SHUTUPNOOB654 1 year ago
fuck the qing that fucking shit bring down china
bounch retard
han, tang dynasty is the real china
zzzyes 1 year ago
If any of had been born in Qing Dynasty and had claimed that Qing was not China, the Manchurian Lords would just arrest and execute you.
waterdropsfall 1 year ago 111
part 3/3 successors of Shunzhi inherit this emperors view about their identity. In fact, they even became more willing to accept their identities of being Chinese emperors. Throughout the middle period of Qing Dynasty emperors were fighting against chinese nationalists who disown them and cover their alien history. In the later peroid of this Dynasty, Qing had always be happy to use the name of "middle kingdom", which identify with China
waterdropsfall 1 year ago 10
part2/3 when manchurian seized Chinnese capital city Beijing in 1644, they decided move their capital city here and then conquer the whole China. The identity of this empire was then one of the major issues that the new owner of Beijing faces, that was would they rule China as alien invader or would they claim themselves the successor of the former Chinese Ming Dynasty? They chosen to be the latter-the new lord of China, that's why a second coronation came to the emperor.
waterdropsfall 1 year ago 9
part1/3 Your boys let me tell you something about history. The third lord of Qing, Shunzhi emperor, was a special one in history because he went through two coronations, one in Shengyang, the capital of Manchuria and another in Beijing, the capital of China. Why should one emperor have two coronations? The answer is he was the Lord of Both Empires - Manchuria and China
waterdropsfall 1 year ago 3
这条台独狗不敢独立就在这里乱说话。。。 好可怜噢。。。 哈哈
台湾是中国的一部分， 永远都是中国的一个省份。
totororororo 1 year ago
come on! chinese is group of manchu, inner mogol, turkistan, tibet, hans, together call chinese, is a tittle name of a country . lear more history dumass, chinese was name the country after the fall of qing in 1911, and before that the country was call, ming, qing ,song,yang, tang, han......is the name of a dynasty country, not not chinese. GO AND LOOK A THE MAPS
THETOYOTAable 1 year ago 3
Tibet is not China, Uyghurstan is not China, Manchuria is not China??????
KoreanSentry 2 years ago
The British knew if Tibet (Close to British India) was under their influence they could have more leverage when dealing with china. The Russian was rumoured to be interested in Tibet too. So the British bribed the Dali Lama (promies him power and so on, Qing government has thrown him out due to previous dealings with the British) and gave him weapons. Once returned to Tibet Dali Lama rule it like a hell hole. Him and his monks were god and all the commoners were slaves and serf with no rights.
ApplePotato 2 years ago
@ApplePotato
The Chinese did not rule any better than Tibet at that time. According to standard of that time, the Dalai Lama at that time (during the late 1800s) actually ruled pretty well. The Dalai Lama accepted British terms for the good of Tibet (he dont have responsibility to make China/ Qing happy). Moreover, most of the world at that time were hellhole. You honestly think the Chinese were any better; not enslaving their own people at that time as well?
Balencian 1 year ago
The last qing emperor surrendered all their territories to the chinese provisional government in 1912 when puyi abdicated the throne. Manchuria never declare independence until the japanese illegally annexed it. The crazy russian ungern invaded mongolia in 1921. The chinese try to stop him but at that time china was a mess. So ungern became mongolia's dictator. And not too long later the russian setup a puppet communist regime.
ApplePotato 2 years ago
Yes.. I'll disregard all of 99.9% of history and maps and listen to a Youtube video that tells me otherwise.
Aha.
rex22neo 2 years ago
current territories of china is china and automonous regions such as tibet, xinjiang, yunnan etc are fucking better for it
Sim2500 2 years ago
with your logic then modern americans should fuck off back to where ever they came from and let the native americans have their land back including canada! australia, france and any fucking country that extended their boundris into another
you should stop moaning as this is a cycle of humans if you lose land because you can't protect it means its no longer yours because you where fucking weak to defend.
Sim2500 2 years ago
Who the heck wrote this?
Learn English, seriously...or keep speaking your own language
Your spelling is HYSTERICAL
Maxicans? I gotto show this to everyone I know to make fun of it.
codyshcodysh 2 years ago
Chinese is a common term with many ethnic groups. Manchu and Mongo are among some of the ethnic groups as well as the Han. Qing and Yue dynasties are part of the chinese history. It's not that the chinese stole the histories of Qing or Yue.
greenb1a 2 years ago
ohh and the americans stole the historie from indians or???
knezevic31 2 years ago
Great video
I give 5 points
Smellyxiangcai 2 years ago
Ok, but they spoke Chinses and retain the Chinese culture as their own. Many dynasties invaded each other, but at the end of the day, they were all Chinese.
ebokers100 2 years ago
no yuan and mongol dynatsies were not chinese. Alo qing was not china.
MongolGenghis 2 years ago
a video about manchu history with classical western music, and a lot of maps with english on it, at least you can use some manchurian maps... i will even accept mongolian maps
jamesyangdu 2 years ago
I agree to this. The Yuan and the Qing were not part of Chinese Dynasties becuz they were Mogolian and Manchurian, not the Han lol Dont know y China always claim that these 2 dynasties were Chinese Dynasties. If the hinese make a claim like this the the VN can say the same that there wasn't any 1000 years of Chinese dominating in VN huh??
TheDoom13 2 years ago 2
It is funny to see how this video made Han Chinese so upset! lol
It is hard for Han people to accept their embarrassing history. As a Chinese, I believe China is home for many different races, NOT MINORITIES (I hate that word) through history. But today, the Han Chinese people think and try to make Chinese history as Han History. It is natural that every group has some ups and downs in history, and one should not think that his/her past is just glorious all the time. calm down, think realistic
yardandy 2 years ago 19
not even worth to discuss....Manchurian hates Japan the most, because of the 731 Unit.
paidnomind 2 years ago
korean asshole
japsgotfuckedinpussy 2 years ago
this video is ridiculous. The Jurchens considered themselves as Chinese. Whoever made this video should read more primary historical documents...
pquumm 2 years ago
This whole vdieo is a fake. THis video maker makes this video from his/her own fantasies. Where is your evidence or proof of what you are saying??????? Where is the real sources. I hope you aren't pointing to ones that your peole wrote as evidences. LOL laugh. THis video is not make by any mongolians, manchurians, Tibetians, Russians or those people that live in western china. This video is made by CHeon1son. A fucking idiot korean retard. Cheon1son = realtruehistory.
WhoCareswhatever2009 2 years ago
this is rediculous!
SamuraiLiker 2 years ago
@SamuraiLiker how so??
TheDoom13 2 years ago 3
his wondrousjapan2009 account is gone cause so many people laughing at him. He has multiple accounts. He got defeated that is why his channel do not allows comment.
CanCayate2 2 years ago
@howyun
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FuckUSAmerika 2 years ago
Qing is not chinese empire or china
do google it for the next time dumbass
racistbitch1 2 years ago 3
@racistbitch1
hey bitcvh
qing is china go google yourself bitch
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everything is china all dynasties are chinese fuck you dumbass girl bitch
FuckUSAmerika 2 years ago
If Manchuria were a part of China, Britain would be a part of India.
independentjapan2009 2 years ago 3
no, because the Indians Speaks English as a result of British mastery. but the Chinese does not speak manchurian, instead, manchus today speaks Chinese.
jimmyjamesWang 2 years ago
Chinese did Queue and wear Manfu still now.
independentjapan2009 2 years ago
@independentjapan2009
thats bullshit jap
manchuria was ALWAYS china, are you stupid? all dynasties were chinese.
FuckUSAmerika 2 years ago
If Manchuria were a part of China, Britain would be a part of India.
independentjapan2009 2 years ago 4
@independentjapan2009
hey asshole jap...
are you wondrousjapan2009?
FuckUSAmerika 2 years ago
Lol its funny how chineses are denying the truth. that China was colony of Qing dynasty. almost all historians except for some chinks accept that qing is not china.
racistbitch1 2 years ago 16
@racistbitch1 , most of chinese are HAN descendants, only the Royal family are from Mongolia..a minority compared to all the Han people in china , plus ..QING surrendered later anyways...it doesn't even matter anymore.
SpinningJennifer 1 year ago
@retardedbitch1 Qing is china
Yamatopetro 1 year ago
@racistbitch1 Qing is china retard
Yamatopetro 1 year ago
@racistbitch1 I noticed the map shown indicated Ming as China when Ming is only Han ruled. You can see Qing is not part of China if you refer Ming as China as Qing is not part of Ming( the name we call our nation during Ming Dynasty). But we say Qing is part of China as the China I meant here is not the Ming Dynasty or other Han ruled Dynasty nut China being Zhongguo(name we call our nation today).
theboyuan0jcfan 1 year ago
So does most people in the world who wears Suit and ties! does that mean they are all slaves of the Western world?
jimmyjamesWang 2 years ago
Are you a slave of the western world? Why dont you ware kimono all the damn times? lol, geesh, even kimono is a variant of Hanfu, by your logic, arent you saying that you are dogs of Han nations?
jimmyjamesWang 2 years ago 2
gobeat ur 2inch dick instead of polluting youtube with ching chong bullshit.
racistbitch1 2 years ago 4
qing is china. the manchus held the mandate of heaven which gave them the legitimacy to rule china as a dynasty.
hcn9 2 years ago
@hcn9
yes tou are right mangus are chinese, its our bithces to fuck in ass, fuck these haters
FuckUSAmerika 2 years ago
The Yuan Dynasty only lasted 97 years, not 200 1271 to 1368. get your history right.
rcheng5391 2 years ago
during ming dynasty, jurchen( manchu) tribes were conquered by emperor yongle and forced to submit to han ming dynasty. therefore, manchu was han slave before they conquered shit
HuiHuiWanSui 2 years ago