Forum: Is there any truth to 9/11 Conspiracy Theories? P1

[mephisto88x]

this ass  nick pope believes in crappy ufos but doesnt believe is an inside job

total BS

[marvinc999]

Nick Pope is EMBARRASSING - even for a jerk !

ANYONE who cites the 9/11 Commission's Officially-Approved Fantasy (sorry, Report) as some sort of 'evidence' is either very stupid, very stubborn, very un-read, or very under-paid as an Establishment Stooge.

2 out of 10, Nick.

(If you want better marks, you MUST do your homework)

[madelena1234]

I hate these discussion programmes, set up for the sheeple. Pretending honesty and yet dragging up all the usual blah, blah, blah, blah, with a brain washed public looking on and clapping the so called experts speaking their so called truths. The British public seems to dig being gullible and daft.

[joepelham]

one thing two words BLACK BOX only 1 time in history that they dident find it made from the strongest metals oohh hey they found a terrorist passport hahahahha BS

[Spindry96]

@joepelham In a high speed plane crash many contents are violently ejected. So it makes no sense claiming that a passport couldn't possibly survive. They found plane seats at the base of the WTC how is that possible?

[GeoffTheGiraff]

Anyone that supports the official story is a brainwashed sheep who's nationalism runs deeper than their love for humanity. It's so bloody obvious that our government carried out the attacks themselves, staged the events lied to the american public more times than they could care to keep track up, and STILL cover up the facts, not very well obviously. I cannot wait until the day that I can live in the world and not be called a "conspiracy nut" for knowing/seeking the TRUTH instead of SHIT

[GeoffTheGiraff]

Wow, he actually held up that piece of fiction, the 9/11 Commission Report. What the fuck

[Martin958]

Nick Pope is the worlds leading Bell-End

[drifter402]

OF CORSE THERE IS NO TRUTH. thats why people believe in them

[AdriansPunk]

I will believe the first 'truther/theorist' that is NOT plugging a book or asking for donations to attain more 'research'...

[LisaDawnn]

Nick Pope, you have totally let me down. I am very disappointed in your opinion over this matter.

[LifePsyop]

Oh god.. the "expert panel" Bunch of staged and scripted arguments. This is the Delphi Technique in action.

[twostix67]

@LifePsyop What is the Delphi technique ?.

[LifePsyop]

@twostix67 The Delphi Technique is producing the illusion of consensus. They will argue multiple sides of an issue in a scripted fashion, and in conclusion one view dominates. In this case, nobody sufficiently proved an alternate conspiracy, so the official conspiracy theory (magic arabs/magic planes) stands as truth.

They do this in newsmedia constantly, bringing on clowns to pretend to argue over an issue.

[twostix67]

@LifePsyop i see,, thanks for explaing that.

[DannyFischarge]

nice tits

[Ghiani16]

@jaguarclaw its just not possible.. how is it possible that these hijackers took over 4 planes with boxcutters and flew in to the states while russians could not penetrate the U.S. sky in the cold war

[parannoyance]

@Ghiani16 yes and then further more succeeded in bringing two buildings down at freefall speed... and a third came down at freefall...and some hijackers turn up alive,meanwhile no footage of the pentagon being hit. Sybil Edmonds and other whistleblowers are either gagged or killed and  even top level physicists,explosives experts and ex-FBI are now goping public.

[TheGMMuk]

Nick Pope - you're not just a lying tosser; you're a disgrace to humanity!

[blackArt2000]

Email Nick and tell him what a cock his is.. Contact@NickPope.net

[TheWhoever118]

we have part 1, 3, 4, 5 & 6 but where is part2?

[SpaceAudio]

insightful. 

[HubsNetwork]

Physics or the official story, which do you believe ?

(Remember, you can only pick 1) lol

[cronaldo7701]

its funny how more and more conspiracy theories are coming out the older 9/11 gets.

people are just trying to create some controversy out of something truly evil

[ucvessel]

@cronaldo7701 No, it's because truth takes time to sink in.

[cronaldo7701]

@ucvessel the truth is that it actually happened, why can't you believe that ?

[ucvessel]

@cronaldo7701 It's not about believing. It's about understanding. The official story does not make sense, the alternative explanations do. It's that simple.

[Bigdadda20]

@ucvessel Tell me what doesn't make sense about the official story, and what does make sense about the alternative explanations.

[ucvessel]

@Bigdadda20 really? you're gonna ask me that question? all you have to do is search online and you will find out why or why not. I don't have time nor the energy to type essays for you here. have you heard of google? lol

[Bigdadda20]

@ucvessel I have searched online and as far as I can see, the official story makes sense and the conspiracy theories are baseless.

[ucvessel]

@Bigdadda20 "as far as I can see ..." ? well, you can't see very far. lol

[Bigdadda20]

@ucvessel Enlighten me.

[lumpfish99]

@cronaldo7701 really?...which ones?

[CraigRidley1]

i want a question answered why was all camra footage from all camras in the vacinity of the pentagon confisated?

[theawecabinet]

@CraigRidley1

The Pentagon CCTV footage was confiscated because 9/11 isn't an inside job.

You just need to forget about details like 16 ft hole with intact windows on either side, the unmarked green lawn in front and the complete lack of (credible) 737 wreckage (such as tail section, engines, landing gear etc) and instead just remember what you were told to believe by the nice people on TV as they repeated the official story.

Except for this guy who just said what he saw!

watch?v=SFz7gLz7CVk

[NoUserism]

@Inoitspointless conspiracy theories became an industry, and its feeding many freaks living off by "wakin people up". Just blame "zionists", that works for everything.

But 9/11 got few too much "coincidently" happenings. You dont even need nano thermite. Google ABLE DANGER Cap. Shaffer, war games 9-11, bombs in basement - and fuck the witness, theres VICTIMS!... just for starters...

Sure this doesnt make an inside job a must, but all this in addition - kinda strange, dont you think?

[Landotter1]

Does anyu one else think that the war in Iraq... The first thing that was secured was the oil fields.... I think that the oil fields were poened up and free oil was being tasken from iraq and them the fact that gas prices went way up. They were getting free oil and big cash from Americans at the pumps. Does anyone else think this at all? Just curious.... I think they took free oil all along.

[waitew]

Of course it was an inside job.Do you think the American people would have gone for the wars if they were told they were for OIL?and if Terrorism hadn't come along & replaced Communism as America's big enemy,who would the enemy be today?Because without a big enemy,there's no need for a big military ! And you know what that means$. just what would the defense,CIA,FBI,NSA etc budgets be today without 911?You really think our government just 'failed' us?Come on!Lying 'bout 911 makes 1guilty of it.

[whitenightf3]

Pope is still there spinning a load of bull I don't trust him at all.

[kickmeout1]

hahahahha fucking crazy conspiracy theorists lol!!!! takes all sorts!!

[Hania454]

Annie Machon is hot, because she is a truth seeker.

[koolkol009]

What a liar that presenter sticking with the fattest lie that 19 terrorists died.NO five came and reported to their Saud consulate that they are alive!!!Gosh that is a conspiracy to live a lie like that!!!

[jilmsrv]

Nick Pope is a gov't misinformation agent...NO QUESTION ABOUT IT ....Take that to the bank Hank......

[iBlindGame]

We can know the fact that NIST always ridiculously dodges all the controlled demolition evidence using fallacious reasoning. You just have to learn the fallacies and learn what NIST claims.

We Have the Results and Only We Have the Results (15 minutes)

watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk

[37Dionysos]

"Mistakes were made." The perfect sentence---empty of any responsibility whatsoever.

[gsxr750ia]

nick pope...you sir are a lying douchebag..fact!!

[RyanNeilCarr1983]

I like 4 Nicky to see Simon Shack's video's on 9/11, How can Nick Pope champion The Rendlesham Case & be so thick over 9/11.

[parttimelaver]

@RyanNeilCarr1983 nick pope is actually one of the more level headed commentators out there. He is correct when he says that 9/11 did not lead to the war in iraq. Everyone thinks it did, but it did not. The iraq issue had been on the table for decades and was separate from hunting down the taliban in afganistan. You might say that 9/11 was needed to justify the iraq invasion, but that is just a myth that has been peddaled by people in the media. Iraq was all about WMD.

[koolkol009]

@parttimelaver Shut up!!Bush made a famous speech on ground Zero saying ' we haerd and the people who did this this you will hear us!!!Now retracting your story!!!Whata bout the three animals Jews chanting on van full of explosion we need to catch them and hang them publicly or the kabal is too big and too spread even in Uk!!!Lol

[shackle5]

the media is not investigating the truth because they are fundamental to hiding it.

[blarson12]

@shackle5 The media is a part of the problem. They pick and choose what to show on the news. Maybe the zionists are behind the whole thing? Who knows. One thing i know for sure, and that is that those buildings were the result of a controlled demolition.

[chessdominos]

Watch google video titled "9/11 Blueprint for Truth presented by Architect Richard Gage, AIA" to see how much evidence are been collect to support INSIDE JOB & CONTROLL DEMOLITION

[chessdominos]

9/11 Blueprint for Truth: The Architecture of Destruction Commercial architect Richard Gage (founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth) presents a watertight case for controlled demolition of the three steel-building collapses at the World Trade Center, New York on 9/11/01. Includes physicist Steven Jones' updated evidence of thermite.

[chessdominos]

Nick Pope really disappoint me why dont you watch later works.

30% of American now believes 911 was an inside job. Guess what the owner of the WTC made a 2000% profit from the 911 attack: few months early he filed a request for controll demolision, but because of toxicity substance in the building its request was denied. To dismantle the two tower it would cost him $12.000.000.000. Why pay so much if a terrorist give you the opportunity to use controll demolition. A much cheap solution.

[jazzmanzoot]

Nick Pope is a baught man. Take evrything he says, with a pinch of salt.

[Metamorphosis33]

the comment the guy said"9/11 did not lead to the war in Iraq" this fellow is an absolute bafoon..CHeney and Runsfeld made allegations of saddam and iraq...it was the 911 attack that had the fear in peoples minds coupled with the LIE about WMD's that gave them the support"we dont want to see a smoking gun...in the form of a mushroom cloud"...M GOD 20 years from now they will have completely distorted the truth...children tell your parents till they dont want to hear anymore...its our last hope!!

[Intiom]

If I were a terrorist, I'd certainly wait until my target nations were conducting terror drills (noth of which were PUBLIC information before they occured) before I attacked them. I would also make sure that my attack mimiced, as closely as possible, the terror drill - so it would be harder for authorities to isolate from the drill.

Still, there will always be people who think the conspiracy is more likely that the above scenario.

[TheSkepticalIdealist]

The debunkers they had on don't know anything to counter the truther bullshit, I switched off after he messed up an easy first question. Why did Bush refuse an official investigation into 911 for 2 years? He didn't. The largest investigation the history of the FBI started straight after 911 (PENTBOM), then there was the FEMA performance study and the 911 Commission, not to mention numerous other studies including independent ones. So this is a crap debate, no point watching.

[RogerHoare]

Nick Pope — a monumental arsehole. Or maybe just a mental one. He'd better get back to his UFOs.

[F33bs]

This is the dumbest collection of British people I've ever seen.

[chaz2912]

It always really scares me when 2 apparently intelligent people like the the 2 on the right turn out to be absolute psychos!!!

[chaz2912]

It always really scares me when 2 apparently intelligent people like the the 2 on the right turn out to be absolute psychos!!!

[curlysue27]

is this Nick Pope for real?!!

[jezzyby47]

Is this the same Nick Pope who was head of the UK UFO investigations unit?

If so, he should know more than most that the government WILL cover up anything to cover it's own back. He was privvy to the UFO reports by citizens, and that the official government stance on this was that they don't exist.

Shame on you Nick.

Of course it was an inside job, it was Mossad and CIA working together, incidentally those 2 organisations were also implicated in the JFK shooting in 1963, coindidence?

[111RobinHood]

Nick Pope is so ignorant of the facts! In fact 5 or 6 of the terrorists never died but were found to be living well in their own home countries. The terrorists were used as scapegoats. 9/11 was an inside job and the towers were brought down by explosives. The same situation with Obama. We all know by strong evidence that Obama wasn't born in the US, while he and with the support of the Supreme Court, refuses to provide proof of US citizenship. The American government is corrupt to the bone.

[ecotts]

@111RobinHood Amen

[TheSkepticalIdealist]

@111RobinHood

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"Nick Pope is so ignorant of the facts! In fact 5 or 6 of the terrorists never died but were found to be living well in their own home countries"-

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Except they have different names, different birthdates, different families. Oh well. I guess lies is all the truth movement has. I do agree that Nick Pope is ignorant, he doesnt know anything about these claims to debunk anything.

[EARTH51087]

truthers are the biggest trolls

[mykcheck1212]

Nick Pope = Prick Dope

[elirusi]

@jimbob77784 fuck you

[wearechangenorwich]

19 terrorists died carrying out their missions? but half of them didn't though, did they!?

[Zachdudeio2]

haha nick pope is retarded. he couldnt make a comment without someone owning him. right off the fuck'n bat hahah way to go nick pope

[PhilKenSebben110]

a missile hit it, i saw it in crystal clear footage

[davidkate08]

saying 9/11 did not lead to the war in Iraq is a baffling statement to me. nick pope should be exiled to space.

[aifammafiaaifam]

no planes theory check it out

[wearechangenorwich]

catastophic failure would also mean we would have seen people who failed be demoted or fired. no one was. many were promoted. This was not a 'failure' as we are lead to believe. The arguments used here to rebut the alternative theories are laughably weak. some people seem to lack logic, reason, and critical thinking, completely.

[wearechangenorwich]

even the best arguments against the alternative theories regarding 9/11 are frankly laughable. 'catastrophic failure' doesnt account for blatant controlled demolision of wtc7, and all the mutually supporting evidence and witness endless statements. even if it were bin laden - which there is no evidence for - he's still a CIA asset!

[ElseMush]

@wearechangenorwich No evidence? Apart from him bragging about it on TV worldwide?

[wearechangenorwich]

So why do the FBI not have laden as 'wanted' for 9/11 then if theres so much evidence linking him to it?

And why would the FBI say 'there is no hard evidence linking bin laden to 9/11' if there is? and why hasn't anyone ever seen it?

Theres not even a consensus on who 'he' was or what 'he' said, whichever 'he' you are referring

you base opinion on faith, and the TV, yet suggest we're easily influenced! priceless. Even IF he had, and it was reaaally Osama, it would proove nothing.

[corcman19]

It's quite sad to see these 9/11 truth idiots being given a platform to propagate their crackpot views.

Read 'The Looming Tower' by Lawrence Wright. Al-Qaeda had ample ideological motivation and resources to carry out the attacks which were further enabled by a catastrophic failure of communication on the part of the American intelligence community.

[mxmike458]

Corcman: FUCK you. 9/11 was so unbelievably obviously an inside job.

[ClumsyRoot]

LOL! I'm glad I have a life.

[wearechangenorwich]

Al-Qaeda? as in the CIA funded and trained Al-Qaeda?

Obama said that the underwear bomber was a 'failure of communication on the part of the American intelligence community'. Except just days after he announced it, it came out that they had joined the dots, knew he was a 'threat' and sat back and watched. only a complete sucker would fail to question such blatant lies from their overtly corrupt government.

I feel sad for you too.

[heal2012]

Shame on you Nick.. You have campaigned for the disclosure of UFO & ET documentation, and have given many interviews stating your fustration regarding the unwillingness of the US and Uk govenments to cooperate on the issue of disclosure..

[dizzib]

wtc7 collapsed and wasn't even hit by a plane!

Hundreds of professional architects and engineers demand an independent investigation.

AE911truth. org.

[Nekrotik666]

One of the wierdest coincidences about both 9/11 and 7/7 was that in both cases there were terrorist-drills taking place at the same time, where the drills acctually copied the MO and targets of the real attacks!

The statistics for this even happening are so implausible that it would be easier to find 1 certain grain of sand in searching all of the earths deserts.

Both attacks were planned long in advance and perpetrated by inside agents!!!

[theconspiracychann3l]

@Nekrotik666 exactly, well said. Those two points by themselves should be enough to convince most people, yet most sheeple still don't believe.

[abuhamza1970]

@Nekrotik666 The reason for this coincidence is that if an honest Cop finds something that doesn't look right or someone who raises suspicions, when he calls it in, he is told "it's all part of the drill." So you hit upon a really crucial point here: does Al Qaida have the authority and the power to manipulate the NYPD and Met Police? Of course not. Also, this programme fails to address other key issues:

000s of "put options" on United and AA weeks prior

WTC Building 7

No plane at Pentagon

[theBartone9119]

@Nekrotik666 There were no drills that copied the MO and targets of the real attacks on that day, show me a credible source that shows that to be true or quit lying out of your teeth.

[TheGamanic]

@Nekrotik666 Your first premise depends on how often these exercises occur and the scope of the them, not to mention the timing of the drills. For example, if those dates had been set for a long time then it is hardly surprising they would occur on those dangers; it would be odd however if they were moved a couple of days forward or backwards. Plus many of the terrorists would have done groundwork initially to see when these exercises occurred so that they cause the most damage.

[TheGamanic]

@Nekrotik666 cont. You just made up that statistic. It is not backed up by any evidence whatsoever, just a guess. I agree it would be unlikely but don't just make shit up. That leads to a complete non-sequitur that the attacks were planned long in advance? When? By who?

[cakeisnotanumber]

@Nekrotik666 Say if there are 10 drills a year, then it would only be a 1 in 36 chance of a drill coinciding with a terrorist attack. 1 in 36 isn't such a HUGE coincidence. I'm not saying you're wrong, but some conspiracy theorists are so paranoid they see patterns that aren't there.

[DiLxThief]

9/11 was a inside job. 7/7 was a inside job. Norad told to stand down, to alow the planes into american airspace. Bush did not alow the 9/11 investigation to happen. the 9/11 commission was set up. the ppl who set it up, say it themselves. america changed their opinions again again. america perverting the course of justice. America Lied america murderd innocent american ppl for no reason. the criteria of an acult, to hide and distort the truth n never answerd question.

[SpaceMonkeeys]

nick pope needs to go talk about ufo's and stop making a fool of himself by commenting on a conspiracy he knows nothing about.

[ColMcMarty]

That hairless man is cool, i´m also convinced that 9/11 was an inside job!

[WhiteSage777]

not all of them died. quite a number of them are ALIVE.

[uruk]

u better ask:

Is there any truth to 9/11 official theories

911 was an inside job