<3 Love this song lol I paused it and played it to my mom at the part were it says "My mama was a fish, My mama was fish" and shes like, "Im not a fish" haha im bored =P
Hahahahaha I love this song SOOO much!! Everytime I listen to it, I can't help but giggle after I hear "and if we're monkeys, you might as well forget original sin". They're so clever. I love apologetiX :)
I just want to make it clear to everone so we all don't fight with one another.
Parody does have to be dissing other bands, parody is to either be funny or just to use the same tune of a song, but with different words just for a serious point like ApologetiX does with their songs sometimes serious or funny, but most importantly they their songs are about the bible and God's word not to diss anyone. They use all the popular groups of the 2000's, 90's, 80's, 70's and 60's
@weneedthem The key to witnessing with apologetiX is to not diss the original bands, or their lyrics. If someone disses your music, you're automatic reaction is to diss theirs back.
@tgotham1 they arent really dissing they are just making parodies and there is nothing wrong with that. besides ur prolly catholic or baptist or something of that sort
@weneedthem I'm afraid you missed my point. I said "the key to witnessing with apologetiX," meaning, using them to evangelize. I am not speaking to the band, I'm speaking to you. I am a huge fan of apologetiX, and I use them to witness, but I have realized that telling my friends that their music sucks, and apologetiX version is better got me nowhere. Respecting their music makes them more likely to respect yours.
And yes, I am Baptist. That has nothing to do with this.
@tgotham1 ty for giving up it was a waste of your time u wernt going to get any where any way u were going to lose the arguement. so ty cuz now i dont have to waste my time on u
@weneedthem There was never an argument. I was AGREEING with you the whole time. I use apologetix to evangelize. I simply had a warning, a request that you go about doing it properly.
@tgotham1 i didnt need a warning if i was needing anything then my pastor or some one who i respect would of said something but ty for trying u made it seem like u disagreed with me.
@weneedthem I understand. I was only speaking from a perspective of "I've been there, this is what I did wrong." Christians are called to strengthen each other in such ways, to learn from each others mistakes.
... This guy really needs to listen to the lyrics in the original song... And well the title too "real slim shady" he's not selling it for me, besides eminem is a legend
i went to a ApologetiX concert and he pinch he nose and started singing this song and i was like what the heck is he doing and then i'm like oh and i got to meet all of them and i was so excited and i also got to sing "Jacob's name is Israel" with them i was excited and they blessed me greatly
Haha yes!!!! These guys are awesssoommmeeee! God gave these guys the talent to spread the word of God through music, and such a great talent it is! :D I am a born again Christian and today I am getting baptized! It is time for me to begin walking in the shoes of Christ!!! These guys are playing a LIVE free show at my church on July 6th! It's Cornerstone Christian Church located in Toronto, Ohio and I live EXACTLY across the street from it! Awesomeneeeessss!
I know it's a parody in the musical sense of the word. When I said parody I meant the broader term that's synoymous with the word 'joke', and God is not something to joke about. Although it is a creative re-write (i.e., ''parody''). Sorry, I love splitting hairs, it's my nature. I'm argumentative. LOL.
@NitroKingdaka not to start an argument or anything but Christians do have evidence. We can feel God, hear God, see Gods miracles. Miracles Have nothing to do with science, but yet they are proven to be real, only because God made them happen. Think before you comment
@wucdrummerboy not to aurgue but science is real. you are able to actually prove laws in science yet, you are not able to prove anything about the bible since it was written hundreds of years after the events. whenever someone questions something about science, people go out of their way to find the answer thats how science works. think before you comment.
To all the Atheists arguing with evolution: I'm a Christian and I believe in evolution! The Bible tells us nowhere the earth's age. God created the Earth, but the story of Adam and Eve wasn't true, it was just a story, a metaphor. Some of the Bible was not meant to be interpreted literally. Why is your lead argument against God always Adam and Eve?
@MsMatayla i didnt say u were a robot, i sayd ur a retard, and will u faggots stop telling us to read fucking bible stories? as i said to @AlteredOutcast , we normal ppl dont lik 2 waste our time
if ur fucking serious with this shitty song, go suck ur sisters cock. goddamn this song, if its the 1 thing this fake "Christ" does in his "eternity". and if this dumbass god is gonna save us all then y dont we do whatever the fuck we wanna do in our lives and b4 we die just say save me to the "heavens"? he just "forgive us" anyway! YAY GOD!!! :/ you ppl r all douchebags
It's funny how Christians prosper when they feel like they need to pray to Christ, but we need Christ more than they do, look how reliant we are upon our material things! Aren't they all created by the LORD?
@ryanmshepard92 Yes in China, where the church is growing faster than most places, people feel great when they are tortured and imprisoned for following Jesus.
@ryanmshepard92 Just like believing in science? It's the exact same thing. You don't understand something, so you come up with the laws of science. Just because your evidence is "real" doesn't mean ours isn't.
@ryanmshepard92 Not that I like arguing, but if you're going to come on a Christian video and state your religious opinion, we're gonna say something back.
Where does true LOVE come from? Not lust, but true love. If it were just evolution out there, why do we LOVE? If it were just evolution, we'd all be huge monsters, without intelligence. Do you honestly think the cell could've developed without some kind of divine intervention? There is no way deoxyribonucleic acid could've appeared naturally
@wucdrummerboy if ur so fucking smart, where the hell did god come from, and dont u dare tell me to go read fucking genesis 1:1 ive had enuf of that shit
@katgirl28888 Look. Like I said, I don't like arguing. And if you really wanted to know that answer, you probably would've asked a local pastor. If you want my honest answer? I don't know. That's right, I said it, I do not completely understand everything about God. I am no smarter than you. But no one knows where the singularity that became the big bang came from. So I've decided to take the leap that is faith, and choose to believe in the Heavenly Father.
@katgirl28888 Im not a robot, because being a robot would mean that i conform to the patterns of this world and Romans 12:2 says not too. I am a Jesus Freak and darn proud of it. And i dont appreciate the names
And I'm just going to stop here. You've made it more than obvious that you don't know anything about anything. You're living a lie and you're going to die that way: an idiot in everyone's eyes expecting an impossible fairy tale to be come true. A deluded imbecile and a burden to humanity.
@Zimx02 You obviously have a very hardend heart to God, and I can only pray that you will be humbled. One day you will see the truth, and I just hope its not to late by then. Jesus loves everyone, but not their sins which is why he died on the cross for them to save us all...
@Zimx02 Lol, taking a argument on evolution vs creation by God to a personal level? That shows how un-professional you really are. If you can't argue without cursing and insulting the other, then you mine as well have said you lost the argument. Stuff like that really shows immaturity. Anyway who cares if someone took argumentation classes, if they can't argue properly anyway. Atleast my excuse for not being the best at it is i havent taken classes. But they would have no excuses.
@0192837465ish Of course I am not being professional, but my argumentation is still _proper_. You're still in delusion, still uneducated. Don't make excuses for yourself however, it is your unwillingness to face the truth that handicaps you.
@Zimx02 Lol, you evolutionists will believe anything huh? Btw I guess what I have is a mass delusion thats infected much of the world. The only reason ppl with beliefs like you exist is because of people like me. Well actually the only reason ppl like you exist is because God created you and gave you free will so please stop trying to say you got some sort of proof that something happend billions of years ago when the earth is only around 6-10 thousand. Carbon dating isn't dependable either.
@0192837465ish Says the guy that thinks that there's an omnipotent magic man in the sky that made men out of dirt and women out of a rib even though it's scientifically proven that women are the basis for men. :v
@Zimx02 lol they base all their times off the "belief" that time is a constant which it not. Btw if you were truely knowledgable you would know that education is only part of what it takes to be "smart". So please stop trying to use failed insults on me, it just makes me laugh more at your feable attempts to make me mad. Also nice way to stop a pretend argument...
@0192837465ish That does not mean they are wrong just because they have been corrected before. That a logical fallacy.
Get an education instead of basing your laughable arguments of little images and things other people tell you. It's quite obvious to everyone here that you have absolutely no education in any subject whatsoever, so stop pretending otherwise.
@Zimx02 Lol. I'm 18 and somehow I'm thinking you're older than me, yet you also seem to be more immature. Mostly from the fact you cn't argue without cursing and insultng the other. Trying to use the " It's quite obvious to everyone here" as in who? The people that probably believe I'm right since this would be a post on a christian song? Since when did going to college mean you are actually smarter then everyone else? Just because you may have a major in something really means nothing..
@0192837465ish I'm not saying that you have to go to college to be smart. The thing is that you're not, since you don't have any competent knowledge in any of the subjects we've touched whatsoever. I can proudly say that I've always been adept at this stuff though.
Furthermore, you're making the assumption that evolution was forced upon me. It was taught on me, which includes showing convincing evidence. Unlike religion, it's not dogmatic.
@Zimx02 ..there are plenty of people that are as smart if not smarter than you will ever be and they never went to college. You don't need to go to college to learn, its not like its banned everywhere else or something. If you say that internet, library knowledge is biased then tell me, how much did your professors preach evolution to you? Then tell me college isnt biased. Its probably been so forced on you that you choose not to believe anything else no matter what proof says its wrong.
@0192837465ish@Zimx02 btw #########ish ur a douchebag, zim is rite and who gives a shit if u go 2 college ooh, u went to skool 4 longer. yay more bordom for a place u dont want 2 b. regardless, stop spaming comment walls, even on fucking retarded songs, if ur gonna argue, do it in ur messages or ur pages, cuz no1 else gives a flying fuck
@0192837465ish The bible says that it was 4 thousand, not 6 thousand. Radioactive dating is very good, but it can be affected, which is why there are MULTITUDES of dating methods used by scientists, which are all consistent with the fact that the world is older than 4 thousand years.
There's also HUMAN RECORDS older than 4,000 years old, proved by the fact that they illustrate the night sky as it was at that projected time. (Order of constellations).
@Zimx02 Just incase that might have confused you a bit I meant to say "times of the "belief" that *light* is a constant". Science may say that everythig is correct but what says science is correct? God created every confusing thing that you ppl can't figure out. Just to see how you deal with it...let it confuse you or have faith in him anyway. Thats what faith is about, just like you really have no proof of anything about evolution yet you have faith in it.
I love people warring on youtube and facebook forums. It's pointless. The mere fact that you're arguing shows a huge chance that you believe you are wrong. The atheist/agnostic benefits nothing from arguing here. The Christian gains little to none either. That's how I see it, at least. Personally, I'm a Christian and telling me I'm foolish doesn't phase me. And because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I'll waste my life. I'm going to be a surgeon and hopefully save a lot of lives.
@KillYouandJim "The mere fact that you're arguing shows a huge chance that you believe you are wrong." What? That makes no sense from neither a logical or a psychological perspective.
Unless you don't make claims like that in the future again, I don't think you're a fool. If you want to believe, do so at your own discretion, but don't do be like the imbecile here that thinks that running his mouth and spewing his willful ignorance is helping his case. That is just comic relief.
Just because a humanist can't see what we see doesnt' mean its wrong at all. You people are pretty much fighting evolution by saying we are wrong. By your view trusting in god is to "yall" not me, is basicly evolution because we need it to survive in our area or situation. So why do evolutionist hate God so much?
If I'm living a lie then i will die and thats it...but if I'm not then I will die and go to heaven. I can't say the same for you unless you somehow make a u-turn and get saved.
@0192837465ish If you're living a lie, then you'll just die never having accomplished anything in life, passing in history as a fool. Now let's say a God is real, if you die, you can't assure you'll go to heaven because there are thousands of religions and variables of the same religion that condemn each other. It's not a winnable wager. It's not even one worth considering given that your deities have as much chance of existing as any other fictional character in history.
As for the video, the little "arguments" present are based off in complete misconceptions and therefore present informal fallacies in argumentation. The rest of it is simply self-asserted and self-entitled. It is completely unsubstantiated, and thus has no credit.
@Zimx02 So you're fighting to bring his true beliefs down, yet have nothing but your word to back it up, while fighting for nothing? Your faith would be believing there is nothing observable when there really is, because you believe it can't happen. So basicly your own lame argument brings yourself down. If you ain't fighting for anything don't fight at all. You're just another hypocrite "trying" to prove there is no God.
@0192837465ish You seem to have problems reading. Do you know what the word "arbitrary" means? I didn't say there is nothing "observable" (in absolution), I said that attributing the observable natural existence to your deity of choice is arbitrary since there is no objective link between the two.
I did not attempt to prove there is not God, all I did was expose faulty reasoning. Anyone with any knowledge of logic can tell you that. Please educate yourself before making assertive claims.
@Zimx02 Ok, then instead of saying there is no God you're saying theres no God outside of logic which basicly says we christians are wrong. So in otherwords you're saying there is no God other then the "make believe" one that we believe in? So I was pretty much right about what you were saying first off. Yet you just didn't want to look like you were tyring to 'attempt" to prove there is no God. You're still a hypocrite btw.
@0192837465ish That is a straw man. I didn't say there is no God, whatsoever. I simply pointed out the flaws in this videos arguments. Can you not read?
I understand fully what I'm saying, I know my stuff straight and backwards. Suggesting I don't and calling me a hypocrite in a completely contrived ground is called "argumentum ad hominem". I suggest you take some classes in argumentation before you go and put out these embarrassing displays. Pretending does not make for the real thing.
@Zimx02 Forward and backwards*? Go take more classes in argumentation so you can fail some more...you have no clue whats you're saying other then it has flaws. But even saying that logicly it doesn't work you can't say why it doesn't work logicly. So basicly all you're doing is pointing out that im pretending...when thats what you're doing. I don't have to pretend to make you out to be the faker. The video is fine, you're the one with the flaw of trying to say its wrong.
@0192837465ish Again you seem to have problems reading since I already pointed out the logical argument. You seem to again misinterpret my position. In a way, it could be said that it is you who does not know what I'm talking about and, subsequently, what you're talking about.
Here's a tip: if you feel like saying that my argument is invalid, then you have to have a valid rebuttal to said argument. It's preposterous how uneducated people think they can argue against people with education.
@Zimx02 But as I said before and you obviously didn't understand your argument is full of flaws. Because you never provided a valid proof of said flaw....I never had to provide a rebuttal to your failed argument. I would think its preposterous how educated people think they can argue against less educated people just because they think they are the wiser...really, if you were so smart you would know you done lost this one to a southern boy. LOL
@0192837465ish I don't think you understand how proof works. Saying that the video is unsubstantiated is true to the observer. You can just watch the video for "valid proof". Then again, this is probably for entertainment purposes only.
That the so called "proof for God" is arbitrary has already been proved in my previous posts. The burden of proof actually lies in you to prove otherwise. Misconceptions: the video implies that evolution claims we came from monkeys, which it doesn't.
@Zimx02 Wow if only you listened to what you're saying. If evolution didn't "claim" we came from monkeys it claims we came from the missing links that came from monkeys right? So basicly came from monkeys and therefore what it implied would be true. You still haven't proved anything other then what YOU, a pretentious noob says. The truely laughable thing is that someone that "supposedly" had an education in argumentation can't seem to best someone that hadn't.
@0192837465ish What the theory evolution claims is that modern day monkeys and humans share a common ancestor. Saying that the ancestors are monkeys is a misnomer; "primates" is a more appropriate term. Furthermore, these "missing" link is not really missing anymore. More crucial fossils of transitional species have been uncovered recently.
Your attempt at a "counter-argument" is an ad hominem. I'll try to put this in terms you understand: "the song does not prove anything and you neither".
@0192837465ish That is what "unsubstantiated" means. Look up "burden of proof" and look up other informal fallacies and maybe you won't be such a joke when it comes to argument. You have been bested quite thoroughly, but you simply lack the knowledge or the will to see it. I.E., you simply tell yourself otherwise, which is called a delusion.
For the love of your magic man in the sky, get an education and stop putting him to pity.
@Zimx02 Wow, so believing that evolution takes billions of years is easier to believe then a God created it all? Btw what TRUE transitional species? Unless you actually saw one of those turn into a human by evolutions standards of experimentation you can't logicly believe it, which is why its still called a THEORY . So, basicly you have it no better than us christians, since you still believe in a theory lol. It still hasn't been proved, yet you say it has, that would be delusional faith.
@0192837465ish It baffles me how people as ignorant as you can come up like they know what they're talking about. Firstly, your comment is completely besides the point. ONCE AGAIN, you show us that you don't know how to argue.
Do you even have any idea what a theory means in science? A theory is not guesswork nor a hypothesis (like religion is), it is an integrated set of principles and observations. Take for example the Germ Disease Theory and the Newton's Theory of Gravitation. They're fact.
@Zimx02 My Magic Man still loves you, which is much better than I can do. Trying to displace the truth with evolution theory is just an excuse for not believing in the one true God that made it all. Which would mean your attempt at a counter argument failed, since basicly you're trying to say believing in God is wrong when all your trying to prove is that a THEORY is right. I would bet that the new found missing link is another "hoax" just like the rest of them.
@0192837465ish Sure, the Magic Man loves me, and so does Vishnu, Athena, Horus, Iris, etc. The same magic man also says that the world is 4,000 years old, and is omniscient, omnipotent, and benevolent and that there's free will (which is called Theological Fatalism). Can God create a stone he cannot lift?
You also showed us that you don't know what a scientific theory means and you don't know argumentation saying my argument "failed" when you brought up a misinformed red herring. Ludicrous.
@Zimx02 The way I look at it is that Evolution and science has rules that say unless you actually watched it happen It can't be true, so by what you believe in evolution can't work. Yet you have faith in it just like I have faith in God, but thats really all I have to do. While you're going around saying evolution works when your own rules says it doesn't...you have some REALLY strong faith.
@0192837465ish This so called "hoax" has been analyzed by biologists over the world and deemed entirely legitimate. The Catholic Pope himself, in sight of this overwhelming evidence, moved on to accept the theory of evolution as completely factual because it is.
Maybe if you had ever picked up a book about biology or genetics, you would understand that evolution has overwhelming amounts of evidence in its favor. Then go pick a book on geology, a book in astronomy, and a book in logic.
@0192837465ish It all comes down once again to the fact that you're thoroughly and inexcusably uneducated. You have to be ridiculously stupid to pretend that you know more than all of us when you haven't the slightest education in any pertinent subject. You don't even know what biologists CLAIM in the first place as evidenced in your comments. How do you think you're suddenly capable of refuting them? That's just hilarious.
Hoax? Wishful thinking. You're living a lie, and you're dying that way
@Zimx02 Ok, first off the other faked fossils were proven wrong not to long afterwards. Even though for the first few months or years it was proven correct. 2nd since when has the pope(catholic church) been known to do anything without some sort of money involved(bribed). 3rd do you really think humans are so perfect that they can actually prove anything a fact? You're such a humanist, yet I doubt you even realize it. if you want to argue mans proofs, try looking up the Pricipals of Atrophy
@0192837465ish This is just funny. The man using a sophisticated piece of equipment developed from decades of scientific advancement through a network says that man can't prove anything a fact. In what kind of a nut world do you think we're living? Nobody said that humans are perfect, but we don't need to be to prove things a fact. That's a false dichotomy. Perfection does not exist in the first place.
Einstein once said that the hardest thing to understand is that everything can be understood.
@Zimx02 Simply, I have faith in God and Jesus and that Jesus died on the cross for everyones sins. I still sin even as a christian because no one can be perfect as you say. I have lost nothing for believing in God when I have died what will I have wasted? I will have wasted the chance to believe in mans bs and go on to heaven, death isn't the worst thing that can happen to someone...the worst would be beliving in man and going to hell for it. if you repent to Jesus Christ he will save you.
@0192837465ish You have gained nothing for believing in God either. Just look at yourself, you don't know anything I've been telling you about. You're empty as a balloon and just listen to what some buffoon in a gown tells you, not what has been proven throughout history. You just come out as an obnoxious philistine to everyone, and you're surely being a burden to men's progress.
If you don't want to believe in "man", then don't live with "man". Live in your own little fantasy world.
@Zimx02 Lol, I believe what I have read from the bible, and thats it. I don't trust even what a pastor says unless the bible backs him up. No, that would be living with this world but not of it. So tell me how old do you think the bible is? Btw trying to say computers and internet is good? Just think about bugs/glitches overheating ect...your "Einstein once said that the hardest thing to understand is that everything can be understood." Yeah, that makes sense if you don't think about it.
@Zimx02 Anyway you seem to be much older than I am, so if you end up dying of natural causes. Tell me how it works out for you at the judgement seat....but I guess it would depend where you go from there. The bible has been one of the most historicly proven books in the world so even if the religions had a chance(which they don't) I think i got a better chance then someone like you not even trying. Christianity is a relationship not a religion btw.
@Zimx02 What I see in this is that evolutionists have changed their religion constantly to try and fix the problems with it. The whole time saying its correct, yet not long after that saying "Oops, we need to correct this." Just like you're doing right now, you say its fact but whats stopping that from changing in a few months? You have no foundation other than whats opposite of creationists. In 5-10 years the exact things you have fought for will be taken down by the exact people that made it.
@0192837465ish I think you need to buy a dictionary because you don't know what "religion" means. :v
Science does is a constant progress because it looks at things that are real and analyses them. It does not "change", but it improves. They're called paradigm shifts. Miasma theory of disease turns into the Germ Theory of Disease. Classic Mechanics develop into Quantum Mechanics.
Most proven book in history? I don't think you understand what it means to "prove" something either.
@Zimx02 LOL, Insults are illogical. " It does not "change", but it improves."? Wow, yeah that is totally the same thing as changing to try and make evolution real...which will never happen. The fact you are still arguing with me "proves" you are horrible at being logical, if you can't figure out by my constant lol's that I'm totally laughing at you the past week you are blind. Actually the fact you have faith in evolution proves you can't be logical. Which is kinda funny.
@0192837465ish Insults are illogical? That makes no sense. Please take a class about logic before you talk about what about logic. You're only digging yourself a larger hole every time.
Theories are developed through time as more evidence surfaces to support or correct it in specific details. Just as anything that is discovered, it takes time, and it not just magically conceived at a specific point in time.
jesus christ, more evidence that you're wholesomely uneducated and stupid.
@Zimx02 Would you say that the second law of thermodynamics (entropy) is considered an absolute? If so, then how can you believe in evolution if evolution states that that, if left to natural processes, everything will evolve to the highest possible level? Its contradicting...yet entropy has been observed and proven many times so if its a solid fact then the logical thing is that evolution is incorrect. Therefore entropy proves that its scientificly impossible for evolution to happen.
@0192837465ish Yes, entropy is an absolute. I am a physics major. Entropy does not interfere with evolution in the slightest. I do not know what the hell makes you think that. Perhaps you should take an actual class to see what entropy really stands for before wasting my time with your idiocy.
@Zimx02 Then you should know that entropy states that if left to natural processes everything will degenerate to the lowest possible level. While evolution requires that if left to natural processes everything will evolve to the highest possible level....thats contradicting, and since you say entropy has been proven hundreds if not thousands of times, then it is only common sense that evolution is incorrect. If you can't see that then I have no reason to believe you are truely logical.
@Zimx02 The principles of ecology is that ecosystems are balanced and so fragile that any change, no matter how small, will eventually result in the destruction of that ecosystem. Yet, evolution requires radical change within ecosystems and that the changes will result in the upward development and improvement of the ecosystems. If this isn't enough scientific proof then you're just another spoon fed evolutionist thats to scared to even question it.
@0192837465ish Yes, ecosystems are fragile, but the destruction of one ecosystem does not imply the end of ecosystems, as ecosystems change all the time. As any competent geologist can tell you, the landscape of Earth has changed DRASTICALLY over eons. Oceans have been turned deserts, island buried under water, and new islands created. Ecosystems are destroyed to create new ecoystems, which correlates with evolution.
Deluded half-informed dumbass calling me spoon fed? That's ludicrous.
@Zimx02 And that would be based off thousands of direct observations in zoology and ecology. The only thing I can think of is that you just don't question evolution because it is preached as being such an absolute fact by evolutionists that it is "ridiculous" to even consider it false. I remember watching shows about dinosaurs and watching them say as a fact that certain things happend billions of years ago when theres no observable proof, so I can see how it would be tough for you to believe
@Zimx02 Hmm, you seem to be speaking less and less....wheres your arguementative spirit? Now whos the one being illogical? You went from full paragraphs to barely 1 sentence, so I obviously struck a cord. Now unless I'm wrong, which I doubt, I'm thinking you're starting to doubt evolution. Specially since you went from having proof of missing links to "It's observable, particularly in bacteria...". Just glad I got you thinking a bit. This high school senior(along with Gods help) got you...
@0192837465ish Haha, I started talking less because your arguments are don't more than a sentence. Less talk does not imply less logic. Again, you don't seem to understand how logic works. If I said that it's observable, you better search it up yourself. You're telling yourself lies to make you feel better, surprise surprise.
That book has been rebuked by the scientific community. You just read one book by a convenient author and you decide to ignore the amassment of evidence there exists?
@Zimx02 Wow, and when I mention how much less you typed you started typing more than usual, I think I just observed you doing the opposite of whatever I say. So logic just ended I'm guessing. you're too blinded by the "facts" evolutionists give you to realize they are trying to monopolize science, basicly saying that you're correct untill you actually start thinking for yourself and even think that creation has a small chance of being real. Everything I have said in the past still stands.
@0192837465ish lol. monopolize science. You almost had me to tears with that one.
Been there done that. Of course I've considered creationism, I look into stuff before making conclusions, and creationism just came out losing by a great margin. Who do you think you're talking to, an uneducated creationist that doesn't know about: logic, astronomy, geology, biology, physics, and philosophy and yet pretends to be able to argue about those things he knows nothing about? I'd rather die.
@Zimx02 ...to doubt what you have been fed ever since you started college/university. You might want to check this book out "Creation, Facts of Life by Gary Parker" he was a former evolutionist like you, and spent years teaching evolution in college. Untill after a 3 year analysis of creation science, he converted. Now I"ve given you your proof, so it's your choice to decide to look into it more, or have faith in your religion and ignore the fact its wrong.
@0192837465ish You obviously know nothing about the subjects you try to ague about, and you just rely on the half-assed opinions of others to gather your laughable collection of "facts". The only reason you so blindly accept these arguments is because these are to your convenience and correlate with your interests and emotional biases, despite their rather conspicuous flaws and holes. You're text-book example of the old pitfall philosophers and psychologists have been pointing out through ages.
Someone needs to read Darwin's book no one claims we come from fish, the claim is we share common ancestors with them.
HuntingHoodieNinja 1 day ago
<3 Love this song lol I paused it and played it to my mom at the part were it says "My mama was a fish, My mama was fish" and shes like, "Im not a fish" haha im bored =P
Is4everGodsgirl 2 weeks ago
MY MAMA WAS A FISH! MY MAMA WAS A FISH! XD i love ApologetiX
TheChurchz 1 month ago 2
im Taoist and i found this hilarious and extremely clever so props
radioactivenewt 1 month ago
Lol I think my fav parts are "chick-a-chick-a-chick-a hes crazy and my mama was a fish
JCfollower13 2 months ago
Hahahahaha I love this song SOOO much!! Everytime I listen to it, I can't help but giggle after I hear "and if we're monkeys, you might as well forget original sin". They're so clever. I love apologetiX :)
Nalaniluvr95 2 months ago in playlist My Music
where can i download this man? i really like this one!!
inquebyday07 2 months ago
y did they have to ruin eminem?
TheJedigir 3 months ago
@TheJedigir i actually like this better than the actual eminem song, but i do love eminem....
bunniXbabi 1 month ago
I just want to make it clear to everone so we all don't fight with one another.
Parody does have to be dissing other bands, parody is to either be funny or just to use the same tune of a song, but with different words just for a serious point like ApologetiX does with their songs sometimes serious or funny, but most importantly they their songs are about the bible and God's word not to diss anyone. They use all the popular groups of the 2000's, 90's, 80's, 70's and 60's
sportsygirl8 3 months ago
this is the truth!
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I love this song
beautyabbie 4 months ago
28 people's mama was a fish.
Bladecrossexe 4 months ago
Ya'll need to get a revelation to the 28 that dislike this video and to the 312 some of u need to get a revelation of what GOD really is.
weneedthem 4 months ago
im trying to witness to someone by using this band
weneedthem 4 months ago
@weneedthem The key to witnessing with apologetiX is to not diss the original bands, or their lyrics. If someone disses your music, you're automatic reaction is to diss theirs back.
tgotham1 3 months ago
@tgotham1 they arent really dissing they are just making parodies and there is nothing wrong with that. besides ur prolly catholic or baptist or something of that sort
weneedthem 3 months ago
@weneedthem I'm afraid you missed my point. I said "the key to witnessing with apologetiX," meaning, using them to evangelize. I am not speaking to the band, I'm speaking to you. I am a huge fan of apologetiX, and I use them to witness, but I have realized that telling my friends that their music sucks, and apologetiX version is better got me nowhere. Respecting their music makes them more likely to respect yours.
And yes, I am Baptist. That has nothing to do with this.
tgotham1 3 months ago
@tgotham1 lololololololololololol you think you are going to get anywhere in false doctrine
weneedthem 3 months ago
@weneedthem ... I give up.
tgotham1 3 months ago
@tgotham1 ty for giving up it was a waste of your time u wernt going to get any where any way u were going to lose the arguement. so ty cuz now i dont have to waste my time on u
weneedthem 3 months ago
@weneedthem There was never an argument. I was AGREEING with you the whole time. I use apologetix to evangelize. I simply had a warning, a request that you go about doing it properly.
tgotham1 3 months ago
@tgotham1 i didnt need a warning if i was needing anything then my pastor or some one who i respect would of said something but ty for trying u made it seem like u disagreed with me.
weneedthem 3 months ago
@weneedthem I understand. I was only speaking from a perspective of "I've been there, this is what I did wrong." Christians are called to strengthen each other in such ways, to learn from each others mistakes.
tgotham1 3 months ago
I listened to this and the original at the same time on different ipods, 1 on each earbud in sync and it was trippy how well they sync.
squidog94 4 months ago
I really like that theirs someone that takes a profane song and turns it into a God worship song
pantshead234 5 months ago
i wish m&m was a christan hed be so good
cupcake150234 5 months ago
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methmonkey666 5 months ago
I'm an atheist and think this is actually pretty damn well made.
Zemed87 5 months ago 2
... This guy really needs to listen to the lyrics in the original song... And well the title too "real slim shady" he's not selling it for me, besides eminem is a legend
Spriggs456 5 months ago
i dont believe in god and crap but this was a pretty good mix of the words, it works well ;)
jayesdw 6 months ago
no lie, im an eminem freak but this was ill
dennis3dc 6 months ago
i went to a ApologetiX concert and he pinch he nose and started singing this song and i was like what the heck is he doing and then i'm like oh and i got to meet all of them and i was so excited and i also got to sing "Jacob's name is Israel" with them i was excited and they blessed me greatly
hannah4667 6 months ago
Thumbs up if a dream brought you here. (sarcasm, please thumbs me down for excessive stupidity.)
freeofkings 6 months ago
Apologetix rocks! Haha love these guys
karo195 7 months ago
ApologetiX is great! You can sign up on their website and get their CDs cheap and get information about concerts...
rickgigliotti 7 months ago
I thought at 0:19 he said "we're going to have to prophet here"
i could be wrong though...
blkRNcld101 7 months ago 4
@blkRNcld101 It says "We're going to have a problem here"
sportsygirl8 3 months ago
this is so ... incredibly ... stupid.
nicely done on fitting the lyrics perfectly with the syllables and all that
AlexRider001 7 months ago
apologetix went to my skool there awsome
thearkangelify 8 months ago
Haha yes!!!! These guys are awesssoommmeeee! God gave these guys the talent to spread the word of God through music, and such a great talent it is! :D I am a born again Christian and today I am getting baptized! It is time for me to begin walking in the shoes of Christ!!! These guys are playing a LIVE free show at my church on July 6th! It's Cornerstone Christian Church located in Toronto, Ohio and I live EXACTLY across the street from it! Awesomeneeeessss!
ChristianVasco117 8 months ago
.....just no stop trying....your god doesent exist....you have no proof.....stfu
tkdoud1 8 months ago
@tkdoud1 i belive god exists but this is retarded
thebobbyburrito 7 months ago
@thebobbyburrito like i wont knock you if you do believe in god but you are right these guys are trying to hard and ruining all good music
tkdoud1 6 months ago
wtf is this garbage?
marklethanarkle 8 months ago
@marklethanarkle good music, compared to what you listen to, I'm sure.
blkRNcld101 7 months ago
play this in church not the preists tryin to rap haha love it. im an teenage eminem fan and even i like this
pantherlee51 8 months ago
love the original song and i love this too.
Earlhans111 9 months ago
Thank you SO much for putting up the lyrics. This has always been my favorite ApologetiX song, and I never could figure out the words. So thanks :)
alloutmylife 9 months ago
@8CaptainHowdy that's so true
MsMatayla 9 months ago
@katgirl28888 calling people names don't make u any better of a person
MsMatayla 9 months ago
I feel like I need to specify this is NOT a parody. Why would we use the good Lord to joke? I believe this is not a joke, but a re-write.
8CaptainHowdy 9 months ago 13
@8CaptainHowdy it's not a joke and it's not a re-write it IS a parody
kjmarkely 3 weeks ago
@kjmarkely
I know it's a parody in the musical sense of the word. When I said parody I meant the broader term that's synoymous with the word 'joke', and God is not something to joke about. Although it is a creative re-write (i.e., ''parody''). Sorry, I love splitting hairs, it's my nature. I'm argumentative. LOL.
8CaptainHowdy 3 weeks ago
@NitroKingdaka not to start an argument or anything but Christians do have evidence. We can feel God, hear God, see Gods miracles. Miracles Have nothing to do with science, but yet they are proven to be real, only because God made them happen. Think before you comment
MsMatayla 9 months ago 3
@MsMatayla
Yes, my friend. :)
8CaptainHowdy 9 months ago
@melligirl11 yer same hear
MrGards21 9 months ago
I don't really believe in gawd but this is still 1 of the best parodies ive ever watched ;)
MelliGirl11 9 months ago
Mmk, if you're just here to argue about Christianity and the overall belief of God, and to diss the song, then you should really not have even come.
wolfkit0 10 months ago
@wucdrummerboy not to aurgue but science is real. you are able to actually prove laws in science yet, you are not able to prove anything about the bible since it was written hundreds of years after the events. whenever someone questions something about science, people go out of their way to find the answer thats how science works. think before you comment.
NitroKingdaka 10 months ago
To all the Atheists arguing with evolution: I'm a Christian and I believe in evolution! The Bible tells us nowhere the earth's age. God created the Earth, but the story of Adam and Eve wasn't true, it was just a story, a metaphor. Some of the Bible was not meant to be interpreted literally. Why is your lead argument against God always Adam and Eve?
wucdrummerboy 10 months ago
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SuperIsaac50 10 months ago
@MsMatayla i didnt say u were a robot, i sayd ur a retard, and will u faggots stop telling us to read fucking bible stories? as i said to @AlteredOutcast , we normal ppl dont lik 2 waste our time
katgirl28888 10 months ago
if ur fucking serious with this shitty song, go suck ur sisters cock. goddamn this song, if its the 1 thing this fake "Christ" does in his "eternity". and if this dumbass god is gonna save us all then y dont we do whatever the fuck we wanna do in our lives and b4 we die just say save me to the "heavens"? he just "forgive us" anyway! YAY GOD!!! :/ you ppl r all douchebags
katgirl28888 10 months ago
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Are they mocking people who beleve in the Theroy of Evulution? Bible Bashers.
LyrixMonster123 10 months ago
Are they mocking people who beleve in the Theroy of Evulution?
LyrixMonster123 10 months ago
@LyrixMonster123 ya think?????? lol
churchlady4Him99 10 months ago
LOL,THIS WASS SOOOO FUNNNY
xxxEMINENTxxx 11 months ago
Ok what a bunch of religious nutters
somerandom280 11 months ago
ok what a bunch of nutters (religos)
somerandom280 11 months ago
Haha this was pretty brilliant.
koyukionna 11 months ago
Thumbs up if Wikipedia brought you here!
HoulihanFryingPan 11 months ago 21
i like both versions.. this one was just a little... well mama was a fish... hmm.. lol
Krackerjackcheeze123 11 months ago
Mama was a fish! Mama was a fish! xD
kaitachi 11 months ago 32
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I love this song!
MsMatayla 1 year ago
Okay, I heard my friends rap this in the car, and I fell in love with it(: Hhaa. I think it's pretty great!
mknlogan 1 year ago
It's funny how Christians prosper when they feel like they need to pray to Christ, but we need Christ more than they do, look how reliant we are upon our material things! Aren't they all created by the LORD?
TheMessengerGabriel 1 year ago
this was shit, damn it.
d0ck47 1 year ago
I would start believing now because ur going to fell sorry at the end of the world.
E45YM0NEY23 1 year ago
Thanks, I don't care for rap, but I do love Jesus. So I guess I love this.
XGCScrappy 1 year ago
The song that Eminem SHOULD have made :)
zipper778 1 year ago 4
mine too
aiss007g007 1 year ago
This is my favorite one by Apologetix
superawsomecreator09 1 year ago
not really
aiss007g007 1 year ago
Really clever man i like it
crzune 1 year ago
This just in: God isn't real. Story at 11.
ryanmshepard92 1 year ago
@ryanmshepard92 Why is the church still growing by thousands every week then?
andycjp 1 year ago
@andycjp Because most people are stupid and will believe in anything if it makes them feel good.
ryanmshepard92 1 year ago
@ryanmshepard92 Yes in China, where the church is growing faster than most places, people feel great when they are tortured and imprisoned for following Jesus.
andycjp 1 year ago
@ryanmshepard92 Just like believing in science? It's the exact same thing. You don't understand something, so you come up with the laws of science. Just because your evidence is "real" doesn't mean ours isn't.
wucdrummerboy 10 months ago 2
@ryanmshepard92 Not that I like arguing, but if you're going to come on a Christian video and state your religious opinion, we're gonna say something back.
Where does true LOVE come from? Not lust, but true love. If it were just evolution out there, why do we LOVE? If it were just evolution, we'd all be huge monsters, without intelligence. Do you honestly think the cell could've developed without some kind of divine intervention? There is no way deoxyribonucleic acid could've appeared naturally
wucdrummerboy 11 months ago 2
@wucdrummerboy if ur so fucking smart, where the hell did god come from, and dont u dare tell me to go read fucking genesis 1:1 ive had enuf of that shit
katgirl28888 10 months ago
@katgirl28888 Look. Like I said, I don't like arguing. And if you really wanted to know that answer, you probably would've asked a local pastor. If you want my honest answer? I don't know. That's right, I said it, I do not completely understand everything about God. I am no smarter than you. But no one knows where the singularity that became the big bang came from. So I've decided to take the leap that is faith, and choose to believe in the Heavenly Father.
wucdrummerboy 10 months ago
@ryanmshepard92 troll
danielcrosby54 11 months ago
ApologetiX is a great band! You should see them at a live concert.
rickgigliotti 1 year ago
My conversation with my science teacher who absolutely hates me:
Me: I didn't answer question #8 on the extinction side.
Teacher: Why not?
Me: cuz it was kind of offensive, I don't believe in evolution.
Teacher: you cant even answer 1 question according to brainpop? Seriously?
Me: nope!
* I turn around and walk away*
Iwas a bit scared to tell her, but when I did I was so happy!
I love you Lord with all my heart, you are amazing, I am not a robot I'm a JESUS FREAK
MsMatayla 1 year ago
@MsMatayla no ur not a robot, or a jesus freak, ur a fucking retard
katgirl28888 10 months ago
@katgirl28888 Im not a robot, because being a robot would mean that i conform to the patterns of this world and Romans 12:2 says not too. I am a Jesus Freak and darn proud of it. And i dont appreciate the names
MsMatayla 10 months ago 2
And I'm just going to stop here. You've made it more than obvious that you don't know anything about anything. You're living a lie and you're going to die that way: an idiot in everyone's eyes expecting an impossible fairy tale to be come true. A deluded imbecile and a burden to humanity.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 You obviously have a very hardend heart to God, and I can only pray that you will be humbled. One day you will see the truth, and I just hope its not to late by then. Jesus loves everyone, but not their sins which is why he died on the cross for them to save us all...
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Lol, taking a argument on evolution vs creation by God to a personal level? That shows how un-professional you really are. If you can't argue without cursing and insulting the other, then you mine as well have said you lost the argument. Stuff like that really shows immaturity. Anyway who cares if someone took argumentation classes, if they can't argue properly anyway. Atleast my excuse for not being the best at it is i havent taken classes. But they would have no excuses.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish Of course I am not being professional, but my argumentation is still _proper_. You're still in delusion, still uneducated. Don't make excuses for yourself however, it is your unwillingness to face the truth that handicaps you.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Lol, you evolutionists will believe anything huh? Btw I guess what I have is a mass delusion thats infected much of the world. The only reason ppl with beliefs like you exist is because of people like me. Well actually the only reason ppl like you exist is because God created you and gave you free will so please stop trying to say you got some sort of proof that something happend billions of years ago when the earth is only around 6-10 thousand. Carbon dating isn't dependable either.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish Says the guy that thinks that there's an omnipotent magic man in the sky that made men out of dirt and women out of a rib even though it's scientifically proven that women are the basis for men. :v
Get an education, you worthless dipshit.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 lol they base all their times off the "belief" that time is a constant which it not. Btw if you were truely knowledgable you would know that education is only part of what it takes to be "smart". So please stop trying to use failed insults on me, it just makes me laugh more at your feable attempts to make me mad. Also nice way to stop a pretend argument...
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish That does not mean they are wrong just because they have been corrected before. That a logical fallacy.
Get an education instead of basing your laughable arguments of little images and things other people tell you. It's quite obvious to everyone here that you have absolutely no education in any subject whatsoever, so stop pretending otherwise.
Failed insults? Just how old are you.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Lol. I'm 18 and somehow I'm thinking you're older than me, yet you also seem to be more immature. Mostly from the fact you cn't argue without cursing and insultng the other. Trying to use the " It's quite obvious to everyone here" as in who? The people that probably believe I'm right since this would be a post on a christian song? Since when did going to college mean you are actually smarter then everyone else? Just because you may have a major in something really means nothing..
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish I'm not saying that you have to go to college to be smart. The thing is that you're not, since you don't have any competent knowledge in any of the subjects we've touched whatsoever. I can proudly say that I've always been adept at this stuff though.
Furthermore, you're making the assumption that evolution was forced upon me. It was taught on me, which includes showing convincing evidence. Unlike religion, it's not dogmatic.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 ..there are plenty of people that are as smart if not smarter than you will ever be and they never went to college. You don't need to go to college to learn, its not like its banned everywhere else or something. If you say that internet, library knowledge is biased then tell me, how much did your professors preach evolution to you? Then tell me college isnt biased. Its probably been so forced on you that you choose not to believe anything else no matter what proof says its wrong.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish @Zimx02 btw #########ish ur a douchebag, zim is rite and who gives a shit if u go 2 college ooh, u went to skool 4 longer. yay more bordom for a place u dont want 2 b. regardless, stop spaming comment walls, even on fucking retarded songs, if ur gonna argue, do it in ur messages or ur pages, cuz no1 else gives a flying fuck
katgirl28888 10 months ago
@katgirl28888 Trolls make me laugh...
0192837465ish 10 months ago
@0192837465ish The bible says that it was 4 thousand, not 6 thousand. Radioactive dating is very good, but it can be affected, which is why there are MULTITUDES of dating methods used by scientists, which are all consistent with the fact that the world is older than 4 thousand years.
There's also HUMAN RECORDS older than 4,000 years old, proved by the fact that they illustrate the night sky as it was at that projected time. (Order of constellations).
Get an education, retard.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Just incase that might have confused you a bit I meant to say "times of the "belief" that *light* is a constant". Science may say that everythig is correct but what says science is correct? God created every confusing thing that you ppl can't figure out. Just to see how you deal with it...let it confuse you or have faith in him anyway. Thats what faith is about, just like you really have no proof of anything about evolution yet you have faith in it.
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Whammy8685 1 year ago
@Whammy8685 just as they shouldnt have. good job ppl!
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Whammy8685 1 year ago
I love people warring on youtube and facebook forums. It's pointless. The mere fact that you're arguing shows a huge chance that you believe you are wrong. The atheist/agnostic benefits nothing from arguing here. The Christian gains little to none either. That's how I see it, at least. Personally, I'm a Christian and telling me I'm foolish doesn't phase me. And because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I'll waste my life. I'm going to be a surgeon and hopefully save a lot of lives.
KillYouandJim 1 year ago
@KillYouandJim "The mere fact that you're arguing shows a huge chance that you believe you are wrong." What? That makes no sense from neither a logical or a psychological perspective.
Unless you don't make claims like that in the future again, I don't think you're a fool. If you want to believe, do so at your own discretion, but don't do be like the imbecile here that thinks that running his mouth and spewing his willful ignorance is helping his case. That is just comic relief.
Zimx02 1 year ago
Just because a humanist can't see what we see doesnt' mean its wrong at all. You people are pretty much fighting evolution by saying we are wrong. By your view trusting in god is to "yall" not me, is basicly evolution because we need it to survive in our area or situation. So why do evolutionist hate God so much?
If I'm living a lie then i will die and thats it...but if I'm not then I will die and go to heaven. I can't say the same for you unless you somehow make a u-turn and get saved.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish If you're living a lie, then you'll just die never having accomplished anything in life, passing in history as a fool. Now let's say a God is real, if you die, you can't assure you'll go to heaven because there are thousands of religions and variables of the same religion that condemn each other. It's not a winnable wager. It's not even one worth considering given that your deities have as much chance of existing as any other fictional character in history.
Zimx02 1 year ago
Furthermore, the burden of proof lies within the believers of a religion, not otherwise. It's really basic logic.
Zimx02 1 year ago
As for the video, the little "arguments" present are based off in complete misconceptions and therefore present informal fallacies in argumentation. The rest of it is simply self-asserted and self-entitled. It is completely unsubstantiated, and thus has no credit.
Why won't people stop bastardizing good songs?
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 So you're fighting to bring his true beliefs down, yet have nothing but your word to back it up, while fighting for nothing? Your faith would be believing there is nothing observable when there really is, because you believe it can't happen. So basicly your own lame argument brings yourself down. If you ain't fighting for anything don't fight at all. You're just another hypocrite "trying" to prove there is no God.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish You seem to have problems reading. Do you know what the word "arbitrary" means? I didn't say there is nothing "observable" (in absolution), I said that attributing the observable natural existence to your deity of choice is arbitrary since there is no objective link between the two.
I did not attempt to prove there is not God, all I did was expose faulty reasoning. Anyone with any knowledge of logic can tell you that. Please educate yourself before making assertive claims.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Ok, then instead of saying there is no God you're saying theres no God outside of logic which basicly says we christians are wrong. So in otherwords you're saying there is no God other then the "make believe" one that we believe in? So I was pretty much right about what you were saying first off. Yet you just didn't want to look like you were tyring to 'attempt" to prove there is no God. You're still a hypocrite btw.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish That is a straw man. I didn't say there is no God, whatsoever. I simply pointed out the flaws in this videos arguments. Can you not read?
I understand fully what I'm saying, I know my stuff straight and backwards. Suggesting I don't and calling me a hypocrite in a completely contrived ground is called "argumentum ad hominem". I suggest you take some classes in argumentation before you go and put out these embarrassing displays. Pretending does not make for the real thing.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Forward and backwards*? Go take more classes in argumentation so you can fail some more...you have no clue whats you're saying other then it has flaws. But even saying that logicly it doesn't work you can't say why it doesn't work logicly. So basicly all you're doing is pointing out that im pretending...when thats what you're doing. I don't have to pretend to make you out to be the faker. The video is fine, you're the one with the flaw of trying to say its wrong.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish Again you seem to have problems reading since I already pointed out the logical argument. You seem to again misinterpret my position. In a way, it could be said that it is you who does not know what I'm talking about and, subsequently, what you're talking about.
Here's a tip: if you feel like saying that my argument is invalid, then you have to have a valid rebuttal to said argument. It's preposterous how uneducated people think they can argue against people with education.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 But as I said before and you obviously didn't understand your argument is full of flaws. Because you never provided a valid proof of said flaw....I never had to provide a rebuttal to your failed argument. I would think its preposterous how educated people think they can argue against less educated people just because they think they are the wiser...really, if you were so smart you would know you done lost this one to a southern boy. LOL
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish I don't think you understand how proof works. Saying that the video is unsubstantiated is true to the observer. You can just watch the video for "valid proof". Then again, this is probably for entertainment purposes only.
That the so called "proof for God" is arbitrary has already been proved in my previous posts. The burden of proof actually lies in you to prove otherwise. Misconceptions: the video implies that evolution claims we came from monkeys, which it doesn't.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Wow if only you listened to what you're saying. If evolution didn't "claim" we came from monkeys it claims we came from the missing links that came from monkeys right? So basicly came from monkeys and therefore what it implied would be true. You still haven't proved anything other then what YOU, a pretentious noob says. The truely laughable thing is that someone that "supposedly" had an education in argumentation can't seem to best someone that hadn't.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish What the theory evolution claims is that modern day monkeys and humans share a common ancestor. Saying that the ancestors are monkeys is a misnomer; "primates" is a more appropriate term. Furthermore, these "missing" link is not really missing anymore. More crucial fossils of transitional species have been uncovered recently.
Your attempt at a "counter-argument" is an ad hominem. I'll try to put this in terms you understand: "the song does not prove anything and you neither".
Zimx02 1 year ago
@0192837465ish That is what "unsubstantiated" means. Look up "burden of proof" and look up other informal fallacies and maybe you won't be such a joke when it comes to argument. You have been bested quite thoroughly, but you simply lack the knowledge or the will to see it. I.E., you simply tell yourself otherwise, which is called a delusion.
For the love of your magic man in the sky, get an education and stop putting him to pity.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Wow, so believing that evolution takes billions of years is easier to believe then a God created it all? Btw what TRUE transitional species? Unless you actually saw one of those turn into a human by evolutions standards of experimentation you can't logicly believe it, which is why its still called a THEORY . So, basicly you have it no better than us christians, since you still believe in a theory lol. It still hasn't been proved, yet you say it has, that would be delusional faith.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish It baffles me how people as ignorant as you can come up like they know what they're talking about. Firstly, your comment is completely besides the point. ONCE AGAIN, you show us that you don't know how to argue.
Do you even have any idea what a theory means in science? A theory is not guesswork nor a hypothesis (like religion is), it is an integrated set of principles and observations. Take for example the Germ Disease Theory and the Newton's Theory of Gravitation. They're fact.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 My Magic Man still loves you, which is much better than I can do. Trying to displace the truth with evolution theory is just an excuse for not believing in the one true God that made it all. Which would mean your attempt at a counter argument failed, since basicly you're trying to say believing in God is wrong when all your trying to prove is that a THEORY is right. I would bet that the new found missing link is another "hoax" just like the rest of them.
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0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish Sure, the Magic Man loves me, and so does Vishnu, Athena, Horus, Iris, etc. The same magic man also says that the world is 4,000 years old, and is omniscient, omnipotent, and benevolent and that there's free will (which is called Theological Fatalism). Can God create a stone he cannot lift?
You also showed us that you don't know what a scientific theory means and you don't know argumentation saying my argument "failed" when you brought up a misinformed red herring. Ludicrous.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 The way I look at it is that Evolution and science has rules that say unless you actually watched it happen It can't be true, so by what you believe in evolution can't work. Yet you have faith in it just like I have faith in God, but thats really all I have to do. While you're going around saying evolution works when your own rules says it doesn't...you have some REALLY strong faith.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish This so called "hoax" has been analyzed by biologists over the world and deemed entirely legitimate. The Catholic Pope himself, in sight of this overwhelming evidence, moved on to accept the theory of evolution as completely factual because it is.
Maybe if you had ever picked up a book about biology or genetics, you would understand that evolution has overwhelming amounts of evidence in its favor. Then go pick a book on geology, a book in astronomy, and a book in logic.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@0192837465ish It all comes down once again to the fact that you're thoroughly and inexcusably uneducated. You have to be ridiculously stupid to pretend that you know more than all of us when you haven't the slightest education in any pertinent subject. You don't even know what biologists CLAIM in the first place as evidenced in your comments. How do you think you're suddenly capable of refuting them? That's just hilarious.
Hoax? Wishful thinking. You're living a lie, and you're dying that way
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Ok, first off the other faked fossils were proven wrong not to long afterwards. Even though for the first few months or years it was proven correct. 2nd since when has the pope(catholic church) been known to do anything without some sort of money involved(bribed). 3rd do you really think humans are so perfect that they can actually prove anything a fact? You're such a humanist, yet I doubt you even realize it. if you want to argue mans proofs, try looking up the Pricipals of Atrophy
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish This is just funny. The man using a sophisticated piece of equipment developed from decades of scientific advancement through a network says that man can't prove anything a fact. In what kind of a nut world do you think we're living? Nobody said that humans are perfect, but we don't need to be to prove things a fact. That's a false dichotomy. Perfection does not exist in the first place.
Einstein once said that the hardest thing to understand is that everything can be understood.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Simply, I have faith in God and Jesus and that Jesus died on the cross for everyones sins. I still sin even as a christian because no one can be perfect as you say. I have lost nothing for believing in God when I have died what will I have wasted? I will have wasted the chance to believe in mans bs and go on to heaven, death isn't the worst thing that can happen to someone...the worst would be beliving in man and going to hell for it. if you repent to Jesus Christ he will save you.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish You have gained nothing for believing in God either. Just look at yourself, you don't know anything I've been telling you about. You're empty as a balloon and just listen to what some buffoon in a gown tells you, not what has been proven throughout history. You just come out as an obnoxious philistine to everyone, and you're surely being a burden to men's progress.
If you don't want to believe in "man", then don't live with "man". Live in your own little fantasy world.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Lol, I believe what I have read from the bible, and thats it. I don't trust even what a pastor says unless the bible backs him up. No, that would be living with this world but not of it. So tell me how old do you think the bible is? Btw trying to say computers and internet is good? Just think about bugs/glitches overheating ect...your "Einstein once said that the hardest thing to understand is that everything can be understood." Yeah, that makes sense if you don't think about it.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Anyway you seem to be much older than I am, so if you end up dying of natural causes. Tell me how it works out for you at the judgement seat....but I guess it would depend where you go from there. The bible has been one of the most historicly proven books in the world so even if the religions had a chance(which they don't) I think i got a better chance then someone like you not even trying. Christianity is a relationship not a religion btw.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@Zimx02 What I see in this is that evolutionists have changed their religion constantly to try and fix the problems with it. The whole time saying its correct, yet not long after that saying "Oops, we need to correct this." Just like you're doing right now, you say its fact but whats stopping that from changing in a few months? You have no foundation other than whats opposite of creationists. In 5-10 years the exact things you have fought for will be taken down by the exact people that made it.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish I think you need to buy a dictionary because you don't know what "religion" means. :v
Science does is a constant progress because it looks at things that are real and analyses them. It does not "change", but it improves. They're called paradigm shifts. Miasma theory of disease turns into the Germ Theory of Disease. Classic Mechanics develop into Quantum Mechanics.
Most proven book in history? I don't think you understand what it means to "prove" something either.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 LOL, Insults are illogical. " It does not "change", but it improves."? Wow, yeah that is totally the same thing as changing to try and make evolution real...which will never happen. The fact you are still arguing with me "proves" you are horrible at being logical, if you can't figure out by my constant lol's that I'm totally laughing at you the past week you are blind. Actually the fact you have faith in evolution proves you can't be logical. Which is kinda funny.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish Insults are illogical? That makes no sense. Please take a class about logic before you talk about what about logic. You're only digging yourself a larger hole every time.
Theories are developed through time as more evidence surfaces to support or correct it in specific details. Just as anything that is discovered, it takes time, and it not just magically conceived at a specific point in time.
jesus christ, more evidence that you're wholesomely uneducated and stupid.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Would you say that the second law of thermodynamics (entropy) is considered an absolute? If so, then how can you believe in evolution if evolution states that that, if left to natural processes, everything will evolve to the highest possible level? Its contradicting...yet entropy has been observed and proven many times so if its a solid fact then the logical thing is that evolution is incorrect. Therefore entropy proves that its scientificly impossible for evolution to happen.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish Yes, entropy is an absolute. I am a physics major. Entropy does not interfere with evolution in the slightest. I do not know what the hell makes you think that. Perhaps you should take an actual class to see what entropy really stands for before wasting my time with your idiocy.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Then you should know that entropy states that if left to natural processes everything will degenerate to the lowest possible level. While evolution requires that if left to natural processes everything will evolve to the highest possible level....thats contradicting, and since you say entropy has been proven hundreds if not thousands of times, then it is only common sense that evolution is incorrect. If you can't see that then I have no reason to believe you are truely logical.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@Zimx02 The principles of ecology is that ecosystems are balanced and so fragile that any change, no matter how small, will eventually result in the destruction of that ecosystem. Yet, evolution requires radical change within ecosystems and that the changes will result in the upward development and improvement of the ecosystems. If this isn't enough scientific proof then you're just another spoon fed evolutionist thats to scared to even question it.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish Yes, ecosystems are fragile, but the destruction of one ecosystem does not imply the end of ecosystems, as ecosystems change all the time. As any competent geologist can tell you, the landscape of Earth has changed DRASTICALLY over eons. Oceans have been turned deserts, island buried under water, and new islands created. Ecosystems are destroyed to create new ecoystems, which correlates with evolution.
Deluded half-informed dumbass calling me spoon fed? That's ludicrous.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 And that would be based off thousands of direct observations in zoology and ecology. The only thing I can think of is that you just don't question evolution because it is preached as being such an absolute fact by evolutionists that it is "ridiculous" to even consider it false. I remember watching shows about dinosaurs and watching them say as a fact that certain things happend billions of years ago when theres no observable proof, so I can see how it would be tough for you to believe
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish Every biologist considers evolution a fact... It's observable, particularly in bacteria...
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Hmm, you seem to be speaking less and less....wheres your arguementative spirit? Now whos the one being illogical? You went from full paragraphs to barely 1 sentence, so I obviously struck a cord. Now unless I'm wrong, which I doubt, I'm thinking you're starting to doubt evolution. Specially since you went from having proof of missing links to "It's observable, particularly in bacteria...". Just glad I got you thinking a bit. This high school senior(along with Gods help) got you...
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish Haha, I started talking less because your arguments are don't more than a sentence. Less talk does not imply less logic. Again, you don't seem to understand how logic works. If I said that it's observable, you better search it up yourself. You're telling yourself lies to make you feel better, surprise surprise.
That book has been rebuked by the scientific community. You just read one book by a convenient author and you decide to ignore the amassment of evidence there exists?
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 Wow, and when I mention how much less you typed you started typing more than usual, I think I just observed you doing the opposite of whatever I say. So logic just ended I'm guessing. you're too blinded by the "facts" evolutionists give you to realize they are trying to monopolize science, basicly saying that you're correct untill you actually start thinking for yourself and even think that creation has a small chance of being real. Everything I have said in the past still stands.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish lol. monopolize science. You almost had me to tears with that one.
Been there done that. Of course I've considered creationism, I look into stuff before making conclusions, and creationism just came out losing by a great margin. Who do you think you're talking to, an uneducated creationist that doesn't know about: logic, astronomy, geology, biology, physics, and philosophy and yet pretends to be able to argue about those things he knows nothing about? I'd rather die.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@Zimx02 ...to doubt what you have been fed ever since you started college/university. You might want to check this book out "Creation, Facts of Life by Gary Parker" he was a former evolutionist like you, and spent years teaching evolution in college. Untill after a 3 year analysis of creation science, he converted. Now I"ve given you your proof, so it's your choice to decide to look into it more, or have faith in your religion and ignore the fact its wrong.
0192837465ish 1 year ago
@0192837465ish You obviously know nothing about the subjects you try to ague about, and you just rely on the half-assed opinions of others to gather your laughable collection of "facts". The only reason you so blindly accept these arguments is because these are to your convenience and correlate with your interests and emotional biases, despite their rather conspicuous flaws and holes. You're text-book example of the old pitfall philosophers and psychologists have been pointing out through ages.
Zimx02 1 year ago
@0192837465ish So please, until you actually take at least an introductory course in any of these subjects, stop pretending you can argu