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  • This is not ROCKET SCIENCE and was known by weather men and climatoligists since the 1950's. It's called the greenhouse effect since CO2 traps heat in our air like glass holds in heat from sunlight in the greenhouse. The more you increase the Co2 in our air the hotter temps we will have.

  • The Sun's rays heat the Earth and Sea which emit infared rays or heat radiation. Co2 is a great absorber of infared rays. It's o.k. to have some Co2 which keeps our air and Earth warm. Too much Co2 allows to air to retain more heat so the air gets hotter and it heats the Earth which gets hotter on average. More Ice melts as a result. or more Co2, carbon dioxide which traps heat in our air and raises the average temp of ground on Earth.

  • Timothy Ball does not know the view taken scientists who do support global warming. he claims that the evidence does not exist! It does not exist for him because he does not know it nor does he want to learn the supporting evidence. In my opinion that is completely unreasonable as all scientists must examine evidence before they can disprove it.

  • anoniab, I've heard that 100 times before by people who don't believe in global warming; they often use a bigger number of scientists but it doesn't matter; they never show a list of their names and none of them are real scientists who understand the physics and science of global warming. Timothy Ball is a crack pot quack who knows nothing about it and he does not want to know.

  • Tim Ball with the award for resumé stretching.

  • Humans only produce approx 3% of CO2; CO2 only makes up 3.8% of the atmosphere. Our part is only .003%. It is rather doubtful that such a miniscule contribution would be affecting the climate. Those who think it does vastly underestimate the power of the earth's natural processes and how puny we are in comparison.

  • and what about methane, nitrous oxide, and chlorofluorocarbons? is it still only 3%? i think your percentage is off.

    if co2 wasnt invisible but cans of cola, would you still like them in the sky?

  • cypress1337-if CO2 was cans of cola, you wouldn't be able to inhale the air you breathe.- It's not just oxygen you inhale.

  • the air we exhale is 'new' co2, the fossile fuel be burn is 'old' co2. thats why its called fossile. it wasn't suppost to be released in such a short period.

  • cypress1337-It's called fossil because coal is made of things once living that have fossilized into stone. There is no way to tell "old" CO2 from "new". The only difference in what our ancestors burned for energy (trees, etc) and what we burn now is that burning things that have turned to stone produces more energy than its living counterpart.

  • anoniab

    'There is no way to tell "old" CO2 from "new"'

    Yes there is!

    Google Suess effect

    You still SPREADING LIES & doing the work of the denial industry? Of course you are!

  • It doesn't make a difference to plants.

  • anoniab

    Thank you for doing the work of the anti-science movement, do you get paid for this?

  • He's right, the consessus of 1940 to 1980 didn't believe in global warming and that is what Timothy Ball's opinion and viewpoint is from the past, a dinosaur soon to be extinct.

  • geoffreyah-Just in the news today "60 German Scientists Dissent Over Global Warming Claims"

  • The fact is that the correlation between carbon dioxide and global temperature is that carbon dioxide trails the temperature changes by about 800 years. i.e. First there is the temperature change, then there is the change in carbon dioxide. That fact is available anywhere.

    The most compelling and accurate science I have seen points to the sun as responsible for climate change.

    The environmental movement seems to be more about control and taxes than facts.

  • Exactly!!!!

  • Try looking up how many people died from freezing to death last year in places like Afghanastan, India, China, the middle east, etc. There were deaths because of cold this past July in Peru.

    What you green activists do not seem to understand is that people are part of the environment too.

    If you truly believe that using fossil fuels is harming the planet.

    STOP USING THEM!

  • Global warming is not a good term anymore, its Global Climate Disruption.

    And the getting colder is a part of that too. Warmer, colder whats the difference we will die one way or another..

  • cypress1337-"Global Climate Disruption"

    Happens 4X per year.

  • Now the use of food to make ethanol, has condemned even more to death through starvation.

    Then there the global warming hoax. The planet has not warmed since 1998 and we are currently in a cooling cycle that will go on for decades.

  • There are less dangerous ways to battle malaria such as buying nets and having cleaner water. DDT is bad for human health you moron. If you cared about afircan people and poor people around the world you would recognize the threat of globle warming. Helping the earth is for the well being of everyone. Do you even understand how taxes work?

  • Yes, I understand how taxes work. They drain free markets, strengthen government, and special interests such as yours use them as a weapon against the majority to seize power for your hellish minority.

    And you're really showing the inherent deception and wickedness of the current environmentalist movement: it isn't about benefiting individuals at all. You ignore tens of thousands dead because you got the overreaching DDT ban you want in the name of the global warming myth.

    Very cold, pal.

  • WOW Carl, do you understand how anything works? DDT is not bad for human health. It is so safe you can drink it. It was banned because idiot greenies like you thought it was making bird egg shells thinner. That ban condemned 150 million people to death, yearly, from malaria around the world.

  • It does make bird eggs shells thinner and almost wiped out some species (this has been well studied). Spraying chemicals is not a long term solution to malaria since malaria can adapt to pestcides. Lableing people as idiots because they have different opinions then you will not help you get far in life.

  • DDT kept the misquitoe population down, so malaria wasn't spread. Misquitoes don't adapt as fast as protists do

  • Insects adapt pretty fast but yes not as fast.

  • DDT is edible to mammals. Anything in excess is bad for you, so don't go drinking it. The only bad thing about it is it causes weak egg shells in birds of prey, but that's only if it is overused.

  • Actually there is a significant amount of uncertainty about what the affects of DDT are. Overuse was not the issue with birds it is called bioaccumulation.

  • Well put. Actually there are some evangelicals in the US who are fed up being tied to the ideological train of conservatives. The war in Iraq and the environment are among the issues they are looking at more objectively and not just doing the political two step. They are beginning they have been getting little more than a hand job from the right.

  • Tim Ball can't even provide an accurate resume. What a joke.

  • We are able to have this argument only because scientists uncovered the facts. Had predictions not checked out we would never know the change is happening, or why.

    The hard work/dedication over the passed 100+ years of NON partisan scientific research allows us to know that a change in climate is occurring because of CO2.

    unlike demagogues or racists. science mathematically, indiscrimintely points its finger at the culprit.

    We are poisoning our supply, and increasing our demand, no debate.

  • since Svante Arrhenius independent, NON partisan scientists have been building on the evidence.

    Testable predictions show science had it right from the 50's.

    the IPCC was created BECAUSE of the growing facts, not because the weather channel needed more viewers....

    The denialism was born from an anti-regulation political agenda post cold war, not science at all.

  • humanity is performing an incredible geo-physical experiment. Millions of years, have created amassed CO2 in the forms of oil and coal.

    Since the industrial revolution humans have been returning that C02 into the atmosphere at huge rates. It is plain, cold, math.

    climate change is anthropogenic, because we have the power to make it so. Its just a matter of time. There is some debate on when the punctuated equilibrium occurs, but not how or why.

  • Why is the ozone layer deteriorating at such a rapid rate why is air quality so low. I gaurantee you asthma amongst youth will continue to rise as the air gets worse and worse. Have you ever tried running in downtown toronto. Your lungs get filled with garbage. SO lets say it is a myth... lol ya were not destroying our planet were just destroying ourselves.

  • The Green Movement: Different tactic, same target.

  • the real 'deniers' are people who can't admit that they're being scared into a fascist nightmare, with climate change as just another scare tactic. wake up and do some research on your own, sheeple

  • he is not a "denier" at all but a skeptic. there is a difference.

  • In the very first second of the clip Ball says "since 1998 the world has been cooling down". That is a flat out lie.

    That makes him a denier - not a skeptic.

  • iiopen where is your data?

  • Iiopen doesn't have the data. Global warming is a faith, not a science.

  • In the opening Ball states "since 1998 the world has been cooling down". That statement actually makes hime a liar.

  • The earth has been warming for about 17,000 years,since the last Ice Age.Look it up. North America used to be buried in ice.Mammoths used to live here in Southern California. during the last 17,000 years there have been periods of warming and cooling.We are lucky its warmer now.

  • That is a naturally occuring cycle that happens without human impact. But the temperature change discussed around this issue is occurring over a few decades. Plus, the "Data" you are asking for above is not collected by the typical person that is concerned about anthroprogenic climate change.

  • i prefer delayer.. .he simply delays the needed action!!

  • What is the needed action and how much will it cost everyone in freedom, property, and rights, and what are the benefits, and where is the irrefutable evidence that the action is needed and profitable in the first place?

  • In the religion of global warming, a skeptic is a denier.

  • i am convinced that big buisness is trying to convince themselves that anything that threatens the status que is false. they cant see that if this continues there own familys will suffer and die from the poisons they are pumping into the atmosphere.

  • If co2 is a pollutant and you really believe that and have compassion for the people of this planet then please kill yourself so we all will be better off.

  • Yeah lets live in mud huts!

  • I am convinced that the religion of global warming is nothing more than the latest attack on western big business.

  • Hockeyfan22168,

    Well - if *you* are convinced then I am! LOL!

    I guess we can just shrug off all those statements by virtually every professional scientific organization the world over, the Pentagon, USCAP companies espousing the reality of climate change and its human link. Just go back to sleep. LOL!

    Everything's OK folks! Hockeyfan22168 says so! Hugs?

    Your knuckle-dragging-denial is holding the rest of us back.

  • Holding you back from what? Massive regulatory nonsense that destroys freedom, wealth, and commerce for no good reason?

    Here's a video of an expert, one among hundreds who have gone public in their refutation of manmade global warming, and here you are "shrugging them off".

    I say the experts are divided, which is true. You say one side is true, which you can't prove.

  • Tim ball has not published a scientific article in 14 years and he is funded by fossil fuel companies. Destruction of freedom and wealth? the damage caused by climate change will far exceed that.

  • Tim Ball has been lecturing and speaking on a regular basis. And the climate always changes. I know that interferes with socialist religious dogma, but I couldn't care less.

    Speaking of...nothing destroys freedom and wealth more than socialism.

    And will it EVER warm up? It's May 13th, and our high temperature here so far this year is one day in the 70's when that's the average high. I could go for a little global warming right now!

  • You do not have to be a socialist to care about mass environmental degredation and loss of life. Takeing the temperature for a single day means little.

  • The global taxation...er, global warming movement is a socialist front. I don't disregard the environment; I loathe people who deceive and manipulate its concerns to their own benefit and to the cost of rights and capital to all.

    Environmentalists won't let up on the DDT ban in Africa, and how many are dead from the resulting malaria? It's a truly wicked, sick heart that forces its will and doesn't budge when it causes people to suffer needlessly. Even more satanic when it calls itself good.

  • So DDT is good for our health and the environment? Let's just further contaminate the drinking water in Africa. Pests can't form resistance to pesticides? Lets be realistic you need taxes to make progress.

  • A malaria epidemic was unleashed when DDT was banned, and you're saying that DDT is bad for health. Wow. A little truth is dangerous. Just let the darker people keep dying so the Westerners can feel good about rescuing Mother Earth.

    And since when do taxes make progress? Innovation and free markets make progress, and taxes are cancer to both.

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