Strange to see the so called non reciprocating charging handle move back and forth a little during the firing phase. This normally should not be happening!. Why is the cocking lever painted red?
Probably because it's an Indian army training weapon, it will be as slack as a bag of bollocks. You'll also notice that anything that sticks out, and could possibly poke an eye out, is painted red.
@cujomojo2007 Yes,you're probably right. All moving parts are really slack possibly due to overuse; hence these troops are only firing bursts, rather than sustained fire. It is customary in Indian service as well that all equipments that are relegated to training or items that have been removed from service, these will have a white stripe also painted somewhere and the letters "DP", painted or stamped, denoting "Drill Purpose".
Definatley NOT Gurkhas! Or any other British Army unit, for that matter. You'd get kicked all the way to the Guard Room, turning up on a range dressed like that!!!
The gun in this role is designed to fire a 20 round burst as this then makes a beating zone of fire. Now depending on the range is how big the beating zone is. This is why guns are group insection so as to cover the ground with defensive fire. The gun has a cyclic rate of fire of about 1200 rounds a minute. However the rapid rate of fire is 400 rds a minute and the deliberate rate is 200 rds per minute. The barrel is changed very 400 Rds.
To add my two pence, The crew on this gun are terrible. The gunner should look down the sights and lay the gun onto the target, then just with his fingers fire the gun with his head off to the right to observe fall of shot.
In WW1 it is estamated that up too 75% of all soldiers killed on the battlefield was from machine-gun fire. In the hands of well trained soldiers this weapon system is outstanding, maybe this is why after 50 years of service theBritish Army still using the GPMG!
The Gpmg is a great weapon hence the British Army now using it in even greater numbers and the american Army buying the 250 variant and binning their M60s. It has a range of 1800 meters in the light role and up to 2,500 meters when fired in the map predicted role.
The gun crew on this gun are terrible! For starters when firing clouds of carbon block the gunners view. So the gunner should lean out to the right to observe fall of shot and after each burst check the line of sight to ensure the gun is still on. The gunners right hand should be on the deflection drum throuhout firing so the gunner can turn the drum and bring the fall off shot onto the target. His firing hand should also only lightly hold the pistol Grip. These two are a poor team..
In the SF role (as shown here) once you're on target the standard we do in the British Army is 20 round bursts. This would be uncontrollable in the light role, but the SF kit is designed to take it just fine, remember it's not a precision weapon. You can do longer bursts if required as well but you'll need to be changing barrels a lot if you want to keep it up. The gimpy can take a right old beating, long bursts won't damage it like you've made out.
Actually, you have got it grossly wrong. The weapon is not of solely British design. It is infact from Belgium and was known as the MAG58. The production company was the well renowned FN of Herstal, Belgium. The designation is also GPMG(general purpose machine gun) and not medium mg. India uses and licence produces the weapon. The one in the video is the sustained fire variant with a bolt buffer in place of the wood shoulder stock.
@gillyh2745 the stock is typically plastic composite for the un mounted role and the buffer on the end is for the mounted role i.e the tripod as shown or on remote weapon systems on vehicals
@stevewright23 You must be thinking about the UK derivatives like the L7A2, which indeed has a black nylon ABS nylon shoulder stock. Most Indian older model licenced MAG58 guns I have seen are with the wooden stocks, however having said that, new production variants which have many other cosmetic changes, will have nylon based stocks. Infact, many other arms in Indian service are being refitted with updated nylon furniture.
Strange to see the so called non reciprocating charging handle move back and forth a little during the firing phase. This normally should not be happening!. Why is the cocking lever painted red?
gillyh2745 9 months ago
@gillyh2745
Probably because it's an Indian army training weapon, it will be as slack as a bag of bollocks. You'll also notice that anything that sticks out, and could possibly poke an eye out, is painted red.
cujomojo2007 9 months ago
@cujomojo2007 Yes,you're probably right. All moving parts are really slack possibly due to overuse; hence these troops are only firing bursts, rather than sustained fire. It is customary in Indian service as well that all equipments that are relegated to training or items that have been removed from service, these will have a white stripe also painted somewhere and the letters "DP", painted or stamped, denoting "Drill Purpose".
gillyh2745 9 months ago
wheres the aggregation get it on target n open up ffs
stevewright23 1 year ago
Definatley NOT Gurkhas! Or any other British Army unit, for that matter. You'd get kicked all the way to the Guard Room, turning up on a range dressed like that!!!
vcocapt 1 year ago
thats 7.62 mm of pure beef >:D XD
wolflover552 1 year ago
suprisingly easy to use however on section makes your arms ache like your carrying a fat bird
garbage106 1 year ago
What sort of a hat unit are ya?
MakeMoneyFree2Day 1 year ago
im not 100% but i think they need to adjust the gas setting the rof is a little low!
FrazerMiller 1 year ago
take it easy they look like ghurkas !!
nathantbarker 1 year ago
The gun in this role is designed to fire a 20 round burst as this then makes a beating zone of fire. Now depending on the range is how big the beating zone is. This is why guns are group insection so as to cover the ground with defensive fire. The gun has a cyclic rate of fire of about 1200 rounds a minute. However the rapid rate of fire is 400 rds a minute and the deliberate rate is 200 rds per minute. The barrel is changed very 400 Rds.
allthefours44 2 years ago
To add my two pence, The crew on this gun are terrible. The gunner should look down the sights and lay the gun onto the target, then just with his fingers fire the gun with his head off to the right to observe fall of shot.
allthefours44 2 years ago
MAG58/GPMG/M240
all 99.9999% the same gun.
cirian75 2 years ago
In WW1 it is estamated that up too 75% of all soldiers killed on the battlefield was from machine-gun fire. In the hands of well trained soldiers this weapon system is outstanding, maybe this is why after 50 years of service theBritish Army still using the GPMG!
allthefours44 2 years ago
The Gpmg is a great weapon hence the British Army now using it in even greater numbers and the american Army buying the 250 variant and binning their M60s. It has a range of 1800 meters in the light role and up to 2,500 meters when fired in the map predicted role.
allthefours44 2 years ago
The gun crew on this gun are terrible! For starters when firing clouds of carbon block the gunners view. So the gunner should lean out to the right to observe fall of shot and after each burst check the line of sight to ensure the gun is still on. The gunners right hand should be on the deflection drum throuhout firing so the gunner can turn the drum and bring the fall off shot onto the target. His firing hand should also only lightly hold the pistol Grip. These two are a poor team..
allthefours44 2 years ago
certainly not from a european or north american army.
cirian75 2 years ago
best light/ medium maching gun. EVAR!
xthewallhitmex 2 years ago
yeh crew member carry spare barrel n if its too hot during ops ..... u can piss on it ... better to piss then to die from enemy bullet ....; )
nungleppam 2 years ago
@NOpovertyindia2020
Machine guns blazing away like mad looks good.A trained gunner in a professional army uses aimed and controlled bursts.
Long burst will waste ammo,damage feed tray and is not required.
The MAG is used world wide and is a timeless,reliable design.
In case the barrel does get hot in sustained op it can be changed quickly with the spare barrel usually carried by the crew.
insas223 2 years ago
In the SF role (as shown here) once you're on target the standard we do in the British Army is 20 round bursts. This would be uncontrollable in the light role, but the SF kit is designed to take it just fine, remember it's not a precision weapon. You can do longer bursts if required as well but you'll need to be changing barrels a lot if you want to keep it up. The gimpy can take a right old beating, long bursts won't damage it like you've made out.
BisleyBob 2 years ago
Indian Army?
WingedToaster 2 years ago
thanks for enlightening me n others..
nungleppam 2 years ago
Actually, you have got it grossly wrong. The weapon is not of solely British design. It is infact from Belgium and was known as the MAG58. The production company was the well renowned FN of Herstal, Belgium. The designation is also GPMG(general purpose machine gun) and not medium mg. India uses and licence produces the weapon. The one in the video is the sustained fire variant with a bolt buffer in place of the wood shoulder stock.
gillyh2745 2 years ago 12
@gillyh2745 the stock is typically plastic composite for the un mounted role and the buffer on the end is for the mounted role i.e the tripod as shown or on remote weapon systems on vehicals
stevewright23 1 year ago
@stevewright23 You must be thinking about the UK derivatives like the L7A2, which indeed has a black nylon ABS nylon shoulder stock. Most Indian older model licenced MAG58 guns I have seen are with the wooden stocks, however having said that, new production variants which have many other cosmetic changes, will have nylon based stocks. Infact, many other arms in Indian service are being refitted with updated nylon furniture.
gillyh2745 1 year ago