I don't know who the greatest is, but I don't think Russell is even close. - He accomplished a lot, but I wouldn't call him the "greatest basketball player"
@irod13 Top 10 and greatest all time is two different things. Greatest all time will be a debate that will never be settled. Ever notice that Hoops more than any other sport argue about "who's better" Why not just let players be great in their own right instead of trying to figure out who's better than who. I mean if Shaq played in the 50's and 60's for that Celtic team - you don't think he would have 11 rings? - Imagine Jordan in that era. LeBron would be bigger and stronger than most Centers.
@onn1320 You can't do that. Because eras, rules, technology, nutrition, etc have evolve as well as players. Russell is one of the fathers of basketball. It's evolution. You cannot judge players outside their eras. Even though, a lot of them could play and dominate today like they did in their times. Some of them even more.
Who's to say you can't - I mean you just did by saying some of them would dominate in todays game. But just because these guys are the fathers of Basketball don't mean that they are better than the top players of today. - By that logic, Jelly Bean Bryant would be better than Kobe. Not saying Russell wasn't great in his own right ,but the 50's and 60's level of competition sucked. - I mean why is it always Russell vs. Wilt? - Where they the only 2 Centers that went H2H with each other?
@onn1320 You can, but you shouldn't. I say some of them would dominate based on their skill level. Not necessarily because Kobe's that wasn't even close to be the player that his son is. It didn't suck. The game evolved and there were more centers than Wilt and Bill but those 2 were the best two. Willis Reed, George Mikan, Walt Bellamy, etc. You should respect them because without no Dr. J, there's no Jordan, and without no Jordan, there's no Kobe. Especially this last one who copied every move.
This has nothing to do with respect - I do respect them. I'm just not going to say that they are better than the players of today without any way to really prove that. - I give total respect by saying just let them all be great in their own right and stop saying this one is better than that one.
@onn1320 Some of them are in fact better than some players today. More skilled if you will. Wilt, for instance, could play in any era and still be dominant because of his skill level and how big and athletic he was. You also need to understand how rules have changed which also allow players today to be more flashy than before. The way many players dribble today wouldn't be accepted back in the day and would have been a turnover.
@irod13 lol. How big he was? The way they dribble today? Have you ever heard of Pete Maravich? - And how big was Russell? - 6'9-215? - Willis Reed 6'9 235 - This was the average C back then which is today's average SF. He would dominate because of his size?
@onn1320 Maravich played in the 70's by the way and the way Kobe, Wade, and many others today dribble would be consider a travel back in the day. Actually, the average size for those years was 6'6''. Today is 6'5''. There were plenty of 6'11'' 7'0'' guys.
You said BIG MAN - you didn't specify PF. (Duncan also a PF), but you said big man. And I didn't compare Russell to Scalabrine. - I said a lot of Wilt's competition were Scalabrines - Russell was one of his few better rivals. As for as the dribble. - when did Tiny Archibald player or Cousy who was nicked named Hodini? No matter how little or how much knowledge one has of Russell. Only thing that can be proven is what he did during his time.
@onn1320 There wasn't a lot of "Scalabrines" in the league. I doubt Scalabrine can play in the fast pace of that era for 48 min. I don't think he has the stamina to even play 20 in today's game. He's overweight. You don't get what I'm saying about dribbling. Cousy always dibbled with his hand down and lower than his waist. That was a rule back in the day. I agree nothing can be proven, but then again, why are you saying that some of these guys couldn't play well today or some are better? That's
There or no facts in something that can't be proven - he was dominate and great for the League that he played in. - I don't even think they had more than 15 teams. If by "more skilled" you me fundamentals - then ok. But they are many players that are just as skilled today without the same fundamentals.
@onn1320 Name one big man that is as skilled as Wilt. Just one. There's none. I don't mean "fundamentals" Wilt was much more than that. I'm not sure where are you going with of all this, but if you think no player from the 60's could play today I must say you're wrong. Hell, if players like Scalabrine, Brian Cardinal, and Mbenga are in the NBA I have no doubt that Wilt would not only be part of the roster, but he would be a starter. I know it's not a fact, but base on the skill level, yes.
Only place I'm going with this is that there's no proof. - No way to truly tell - He's not in today's game, but in modern times Olajuwon had skill, Duncan had skill, Ewing had skill, David R., Yao when Healthy, Aldridge. And if these guys could avg. 20-30 attempts like he did who knows. His teams was so good he had to avg. so many shots? Scalabrine? a lot of his competition were Scalabrines. And why did you switch to Wilt when Russell was the main guy we were talking about...hmmm.
@onn1320 Aldridge isn't a center. He's a PF. The reason why Wilt averaged all those attemps is because the game was different and there were far more possesions and shots per game. You also need endurance and stamina to be able to shot that effectively so many shots. Scalabrines? LMAO Russell was a great defender. He was never special on the offensive end but did a lot of those things that doesn't show up in the scoreboard. I really think you're talking without no knowledge of the matter.
I was really referring to Russell, but since you switched focus to Wilt - even without true proof - I have to give it to Wilt - I can't say the same for Russell, but for Wilt I'm sure he could hold his own in today's NBA, but average 30 and 20 - I highly doubt.
@onn1320 Probably not 30 and 20, but he'll be close. I don't see who could defend his shot, foot work, athleticism which was simply ridiculous when he was as fast as a guard and jump as high as Dwight, but his arms and legs were longer. Wilt was truly a freak of nature and unlike shaq, he never bullied anybody. He beat everyone with finesse.
Bill Russell is THEE NBA legend... Not just a legend... THEE legend... Not even Michael Jordan has that title to me...
NotoriousNYNJ 1 week ago
Good team right there
Pg - GP
SG - SS
PF - CW
C - BR
just need a good 3 and that team would get rings
klined 7 months ago
Ahmad: "I'm a grown man now."
Bill Russell: "But why are you wearing a pink tie?" hahahahahaha I can't stop laugh!
Alpito123 7 months ago
so hilaaaarious when 5 blacks are laughing... also this time ;PPPP
schwalbstar 7 months ago
Russ is nothing but fun man! "...It's ok 'cause he's cute" LMAO!
Bionickle 8 months ago
the greatest of all time
miamigreyhound 11 months ago
They should put bill russell on the nba logo instead of jerry west
5142232093 11 months ago
best goatee of all time.
HSLt18 1 year ago
u can tell they were laughing to pay respect lol
blkboy2345 1 year ago
@blkboy2345 nah cwebb and gp always laugh weird like that
bigbossman999 1 year ago
@blkboy2345 like ray allen and kg said you laugh because he will make you laugh
Majshet 11 months ago
could you IMAGINE if chuck was there?
TheIronhide34 1 year ago
lol, they worship him, but for good reason. The best.
Meelahd 1 year ago 2
Make Bill an assistan coach of the Celtics! Look at his wisdom and tell me hes not coach ready
LeChatDeNoir13 1 year ago
@LeChatDeNoir13 If anything he might be too old for the trials and tribulations of a coaching job.
Koinuboy 1 year ago
The yoda of basketball rite there. But alot taller
rickys162 1 year ago 21
@rickys162 totally agree
"when you go into a situation it's far more important to understand than be understood and you'll have more success if you can control the situation"
wisdom. Pure and unadulterated.
MadJohnEscapes 1 year ago
LOL at Bill talking about Ahmad's pink tie.
norsemustang 1 year ago 4
Bill Russell is the best basketball player ever!!!!
celticsbunny 1 year ago 19
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@celticsbunny no MJ us is the best basketball player ever!!!! Bill Russel is the greatest champion ever!!!!
klemenkralj 1 year ago
@celticsbunny: nah...top 3 for sure! mj, kareem and russell trio=greatest of all time.
327372 1 year ago
@celticsbunny No, he is not. Michael Jordan is.
irod13 10 months ago
@irod13
I don't know who the greatest is, but I don't think Russell is even close. - He accomplished a lot, but I wouldn't call him the "greatest basketball player"
onn1320 9 months ago
@onn1320 He's top 10 of all time.
irod13 9 months ago
@irod13 Top 10 and greatest all time is two different things. Greatest all time will be a debate that will never be settled. Ever notice that Hoops more than any other sport argue about "who's better" Why not just let players be great in their own right instead of trying to figure out who's better than who. I mean if Shaq played in the 50's and 60's for that Celtic team - you don't think he would have 11 rings? - Imagine Jordan in that era. LeBron would be bigger and stronger than most Centers.
onn1320 9 months ago
@onn1320 You can't do that. Because eras, rules, technology, nutrition, etc have evolve as well as players. Russell is one of the fathers of basketball. It's evolution. You cannot judge players outside their eras. Even though, a lot of them could play and dominate today like they did in their times. Some of them even more.
irod13 9 months ago
@irod13
Who's to say you can't - I mean you just did by saying some of them would dominate in todays game. But just because these guys are the fathers of Basketball don't mean that they are better than the top players of today. - By that logic, Jelly Bean Bryant would be better than Kobe. Not saying Russell wasn't great in his own right ,but the 50's and 60's level of competition sucked. - I mean why is it always Russell vs. Wilt? - Where they the only 2 Centers that went H2H with each other?
onn1320 9 months ago
@onn1320 You can, but you shouldn't. I say some of them would dominate based on their skill level. Not necessarily because Kobe's that wasn't even close to be the player that his son is. It didn't suck. The game evolved and there were more centers than Wilt and Bill but those 2 were the best two. Willis Reed, George Mikan, Walt Bellamy, etc. You should respect them because without no Dr. J, there's no Jordan, and without no Jordan, there's no Kobe. Especially this last one who copied every move.
irod13 9 months ago
@irod13
This has nothing to do with respect - I do respect them. I'm just not going to say that they are better than the players of today without any way to really prove that. - I give total respect by saying just let them all be great in their own right and stop saying this one is better than that one.
onn1320 9 months ago
@onn1320 Some of them are in fact better than some players today. More skilled if you will. Wilt, for instance, could play in any era and still be dominant because of his skill level and how big and athletic he was. You also need to understand how rules have changed which also allow players today to be more flashy than before. The way many players dribble today wouldn't be accepted back in the day and would have been a turnover.
irod13 9 months ago
@irod13 lol. How big he was? The way they dribble today? Have you ever heard of Pete Maravich? - And how big was Russell? - 6'9-215? - Willis Reed 6'9 235 - This was the average C back then which is today's average SF. He would dominate because of his size?
onn1320 9 months ago
@onn1320 Maravich played in the 70's by the way and the way Kobe, Wade, and many others today dribble would be consider a travel back in the day. Actually, the average size for those years was 6'6''. Today is 6'5''. There were plenty of 6'11'' 7'0'' guys.
irod13 9 months ago
@irod13
You said BIG MAN - you didn't specify PF. (Duncan also a PF), but you said big man. And I didn't compare Russell to Scalabrine. - I said a lot of Wilt's competition were Scalabrines - Russell was one of his few better rivals. As for as the dribble. - when did Tiny Archibald player or Cousy who was nicked named Hodini? No matter how little or how much knowledge one has of Russell. Only thing that can be proven is what he did during his time.
onn1320 9 months ago
@onn1320 There wasn't a lot of "Scalabrines" in the league. I doubt Scalabrine can play in the fast pace of that era for 48 min. I don't think he has the stamina to even play 20 in today's game. He's overweight. You don't get what I'm saying about dribbling. Cousy always dibbled with his hand down and lower than his waist. That was a rule back in the day. I agree nothing can be proven, but then again, why are you saying that some of these guys couldn't play well today or some are better? That's
irod13 9 months ago
@onn1320 ....speculation as well.
irod13 9 months ago
@irod13
There or no facts in something that can't be proven - he was dominate and great for the League that he played in. - I don't even think they had more than 15 teams. If by "more skilled" you me fundamentals - then ok. But they are many players that are just as skilled today without the same fundamentals.
onn1320 9 months ago
@onn1320 Name one big man that is as skilled as Wilt. Just one. There's none. I don't mean "fundamentals" Wilt was much more than that. I'm not sure where are you going with of all this, but if you think no player from the 60's could play today I must say you're wrong. Hell, if players like Scalabrine, Brian Cardinal, and Mbenga are in the NBA I have no doubt that Wilt would not only be part of the roster, but he would be a starter. I know it's not a fact, but base on the skill level, yes.
irod13 9 months ago
@irod13
Only place I'm going with this is that there's no proof. - No way to truly tell - He's not in today's game, but in modern times Olajuwon had skill, Duncan had skill, Ewing had skill, David R., Yao when Healthy, Aldridge. And if these guys could avg. 20-30 attempts like he did who knows. His teams was so good he had to avg. so many shots? Scalabrine? a lot of his competition were Scalabrines. And why did you switch to Wilt when Russell was the main guy we were talking about...hmmm.
onn1320 9 months ago
@onn1320 Aldridge isn't a center. He's a PF. The reason why Wilt averaged all those attemps is because the game was different and there were far more possesions and shots per game. You also need endurance and stamina to be able to shot that effectively so many shots. Scalabrines? LMAO Russell was a great defender. He was never special on the offensive end but did a lot of those things that doesn't show up in the scoreboard. I really think you're talking without no knowledge of the matter.
irod13 9 months ago
@irod13
I was really referring to Russell, but since you switched focus to Wilt - even without true proof - I have to give it to Wilt - I can't say the same for Russell, but for Wilt I'm sure he could hold his own in today's NBA, but average 30 and 20 - I highly doubt.
onn1320 9 months ago
@onn1320 Probably not 30 and 20, but he'll be close. I don't see who could defend his shot, foot work, athleticism which was simply ridiculous when he was as fast as a guard and jump as high as Dwight, but his arms and legs were longer. Wilt was truly a freak of nature and unlike shaq, he never bullied anybody. He beat everyone with finesse.
irod13 9 months ago
hey Chris, here's a newsflash for ya, if Russ was palyin today he'd be on the same shit you're takin and be 50 pounds hevier.
chiflao2 1 year ago
Legend
ForcheAlex 1 year ago 3
mvp91593 you will never be mvp of anything unless it's for being an asshole. You win that by a landslide.
13war25 2 years ago
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mvp91593 2 years ago
how many video's have you posted this on? get a life.
xmuscularghandix 2 years ago
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mvp91593 2 years ago
So what?
Flipper79able 2 years ago
oh yea and the fact they also treated him like shit OFCOURSE he wouldnt like some white ppl Ya dumbass cracker
MovieHound17 2 years ago
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lmao!!! graduate high school u fuckin nigger/unevolved monkey.........im surprised u can afford a computer
mvp91593 2 years ago
NO NO the thing is im white believe it or not ,but i do love black people,but i love whites to cause i am one.
MovieHound17 2 years ago
This is the legend
WiltatKansas 2 years ago
oh man! Russell + GP + C Webb = gold ... can we get this commentator group on a regular basis, please?
GDogSamurai 2 years ago 7
fucking hilarious
"what's this one of?"
"people thought mother was a word all by itself."
"i made sure that when we left the situation he was the one who had the bad day."
jkdreamer01 2 years ago 2