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  • i have a buddy who inspects welds and he tells me a fails way more welds that are made by non union rather then union welders

  • I'm here because I can't decide weather to join a union and or which... WOW, all the back and forth arguing, name calling... I have worked as s welder in small shops for ten plus years. I certify when needed and have passed numerous tests (as needed per job/company). Geezo, even more confused now.!!!

  • FUCK ALL THESE SCAB PRICKS!

  • I highly doubt there's unlicensed welders up there doing structural work. That's a load of shit. Unions are a joke anymore and shouldn't exist. Agree completely with ironworker1969

  • unions now are only existing to to exploit their workers and slow work down. You are no better trained or better at your job than anyone else. Unions used to have a place in america but now are antiquated. Most union jobs run over schedule and budget , some because of leadership, but most bececause the workers have become spoiled and lazy .Unions across the board are killing jobs and making prices go up on goods. It is a fact proven in numbers , non union companys are more productive

  • jakeerwin- you probably have never even picked up a welder you tea party fuck. Look at how many non-Union iron workers die every year. Their work is consistently shitty and Union contractors usually have to fix it.

  • How does idiot know how much the workers are getting paid and if they have health insurance through the company?How does he know about what taxes they pay.....let him set up a company and make about $2500 a week payroll per journeyman a week.He is just another brainwashed organized crime idiot.Thanks.

  • @TheDexta20 2500 is a far stretch for an ironworker. You might want to consult your local union hall and speak with a business agent. Union Ironworkers are the most skilled, trained and experienced in their field.  A unionized building trade requires hours of experience and trade school completion to be a Journeyman. Welders and riggers need to be qualified and certified. Would you want your building worked on by an unlicensed contractor with uncertified labor?

  • Jakeerwin1 your an idiot. U probly cook meth to make up for ur lost wages.

  • also welcome to reality life isnt fair

  • @jakeerwin1 hows your pension and benefits? and a scab is a union ironworker who is working non-union, get your shit straight. non union ironworkers are just uneducated.

  • @Ruddskies my retirement plan is great as well as my health, dental and vision and life policys, thanks for asking, and for being uneducated....... ha.. ive probably paid more in taxes this year than youve made! I hope obama keeps extending the unemployment for your sorry ass, but while your unemployed dont worry im stacking them up, the funny thing is that they would rather pay prevailing to non union workers to get the job done right in half the time, you should all just join the milkman union

  • @jakeerwin1 haha. well u see im canadian so i guarantee that i pay more taxes than you, so right off the bat my healthcare is free. and im a 2nd yr apprentice and i probably make more than you. so good for you keep stackin em u 'scab' and keep growing pot to make up for your lost wages.

  • @Ruddskies haha, your healthcare system is a joke, Average Canadian ironworker apprentice 2nd year Salary: $57780, ive doubled that this so far this year buddy, when you put in 70 hours a week making 93 an hour in weschester ny you can make some money, so you can research it if you want

  • @jakeerwin1 its free, how is it a joke. youd rather pay for health care? whats your point of u work 70 hours a week? our pension and benfits are better regardless. union for life

  • @Ruddskies i dont pay for my health care, my employer does he also matches my retirement dollar for dollar, its alright though im not going to waste anymore time talking to a little boy, i know what i got and its alot better then my friends that are in the union, i guess your happy being just another sheep so i wont hate on ya, try to get out of the box your trapped in though........... it pays alot better

  • @jakeerwin1 little boy? haha big man insulting someone over the internet, grow a pair.

  • fucking union workers are a joke, proud to be what yall call a SCAB!! i love taking your jobs and making your wages.

    

  • As non bias, why you be against unions. They fight for fare pay, health insurance, retirement. Etc. With out somebody standing up for these things they wouldn't exist. The reason some of these things are laws now are because of unions. I'm glad to see somebody still stands up to fat cats.

  • As far as the comment down a few notches below goes, what good are so called free markets anymore if they are not fair markets. You Milton Freidman fanatics want to push your twisted view on the whole country. Keep your views on economic policy confined to your own cult followers. BTW, cults don't last forever.

  • i can respect the fact that this guy stated his case clearly and not yelling at people calling them names but when he said non liscensed did he mean workers that are not journeymen if so apprentices need to get their hours in as well and yes non union workers have familys to feed as well at least this guy can see that the only person a job belongs to is the guy whop goes out and applies for it and gets it based on his personal skill and training not what group he belongs to yes unions have a pla

  • Freemarket. Keep drinking the kool-aide.

  • There is nothing immoral about crossing a picket line. Nobody owes you a job , a specific amount of money per hour or anything else. A strike is an attempt at blackmail. Either work or quit. The free market will determine what your labor is worth. Not union thug tactics.

  • EXAMPLE OF A UNION BROTHER? YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH THIS JACKASS! IF HE HAD A BRAIN HE'D PLAY WITH IT, BUT INSTEAD HE JOIN THE UNION. ID BE FLAT OUT EMBARRASSED AND ASHAMED TO EVEN BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CLOWN.....UNION FAIL. IM SURE THOSE "UNCERTIFIED" WELDERS STILL HAD TO HAVE THEIR WELDS INSPECTED BY THE STRUCTURAL INSPECTOR HIRED BY THE G.C. LIKE EVERYONE ELSE RETARD (YOU KNOW THAT.)

  • @BillieBobSmith shut up.

  • Come on down and pay us a visit, the second friday of every month at 8 pm.

    17495 Hurley St.

    City of Industry, Ca 91744

    They"ll be plenty of good Union Brothers willing to continue the conversation there.

  • Come on down and pay us a visit, the second friday of every month at 8 pm.

    17495 Hurley St.

    City of Industry, Ca 91744

    They"ll be plenty of good Union Brothers will to continue the conversation there.

  • if you get with a company that cares and non union it,s a diffrent story some of them do and some do,nt

  • Unions are for lazy, overpaid, lardasses. It's none of your business if a company pays "substandard wages" cause you don't have to work there, do you?

  • @FrankeeFraud when you get hurt you'll be throne away.

  • Fuck RATS Union Iron workers 4 ever!!

  • Union flakes only like the union when they're in it. But it would be the end of the fucking world if one of them wanted to open up their own business and their employees demand $50/hr for pushing a broom around. Then it would be a totally different story.

  • @lizard944 You won't ever see an Ironworker pushing a broom around you ignorant FUCK. Learn something about what you try to comment about before you open your mouth and sound stupid

  • Anti union people deserve to die.

  • @kshredder31

    Super attitude. I hope you like the Chinese flag.

  • @CommentClown Hey dumbass Ive worked union and non union jobs.You know what the difference is?The nonunion job provides lower standard of living with a miserable lifestyle.

  • @kshredder31

    If that was your experience, then it means that you were substantially unemployable. A worker worth their keep will be treated well by shareholders and management. A whining piece of shit will hide behind the Union and make up ridiculous excuses, much like your reply to my post.

    Again, it matters not what I think. The global standard for competition will dictate that we'll all be out of manufacturing within the next ten years. Federal bail-outs can't save them all! Have fun!

  • @kshredder31 right on, though i do say a lot of it depends on which union, because some unions really are better than others.

  • What do you do for your poverty 83 porkbutt ...lol asshole.

  • Fuck the union get a life if you just stop crying then may be you would work more you fuck

  • @83PORKCHOPS Would work on Christmas day for $10 an hour and no lunch break,,, fuckin douche

  • look at all the awesome union workers on YOUTUBE ffs u rat pices of shit, get a life. =) local go fuck yourself

  • I am glad for the Unions in the United Kingdom

  • local 725 brothers! too bad we cant deal with the scabs like the old days..... and as to the douche makin the anti union comments, come on down to any union site and see whos the coward lol

  • i bet not a effin one of those rats speaks any kind of english.

  • yes brother protest all the way! support from local 40 NYC ironworkers! damn right we'll fight for our unions!

  • Bring those fuckin bithces off the job. Have some balls give them a descent pay motha fucker. Talk is cheap.

  • I'm an Ironworker also. I found you threw some friends. you might like my page bro.

  • ok mr. "backbone" ur all talk

  • tio rene :D

  • Why don't about 4 of you losers challenge me & we will have a tournament. I will take on one after the next. You can have Jiu Jitsu, MMA, boxing, or Submission wrestling. You guys put up $5000 each all 4 of you & if I beat all 4 of you then you have to DOUBLE it. Okay the challenge is out there I want. These 4 CHUMPS

    1. The7train aka douchebag

    2. ItsBigJimSlade aka sissy boy

    3. IWLocal8 aka Coward

    4. OKalrightalready aka Chump

    JUST BRING IT,Legends will host & Eddie will Video it all !

  • You are the Coward who's bluff was called chump. You union peons are ALL TALK as I've told you before you can't walk the walk loser all you are is talk.

  • fag union chumps

  • Say this standing in front of me coward, you would shit your pants if our paths ever crossed chump. Union =Losers

  • you proved nothing cock smoker all you did is cry like a little girl. You wouldn't face me man to man when I called your bluff. I am so easy to find so come on chump or stay a coward and hide. I wish we would cross paths as I would make sure you had a limp when you walked away.

    Final Score Will 100 IWL ZERO

  • GET A LIFE YOU FAG

  • much love to my brothers from Local 433!!!

    UA Local 105 So Cal Sheet Metal Workers!!!

    Fuck Scabs!!!

  • You wouldn't say this to my face would you coward ?You union peons are all talk & won't step to anybody unless you have a huge advantage as 1 to 1 you are all cowards.I love to see a picket line as I'll cross it everytime to purchase a product or service from that business if at all possible. You losers will NEVER organize my staff they would laugh you out of the building. They would tell you that their hard work & RESULTS gives them job security & they are highly compensated now go away loser!

  • This guy looks like on of the Village People definite cock lover.

  • I'd cross a picket like anyplace anytime

  • yeah and you'd get your silly sally west coast ass handed to ya if ya tried it here and dont give us any of your mma shit or that your some big tuff fuck -you aint- you got a big mouth which means your just a fuckin bully and your punk ass cage fighting shit will get you killed on the street here hotshot -so shut the fuck up and before you pull the "you wouldnt say that if i was standing in front of you" crap try me fucko in NY you'd get SLID

  • I'd slap you first chump, a bitch slap and your only response would be to cry like a little 4 year old girl. Name the place chump and I'll cross it bitch.

  • hey chump you wouldn't say this standing in front og me. It is losers like u that are keyboard warriors. I'd smack the shye out of u if u were standing in front of me and looked crossways at me. I can be easily found and I'll call yor fucking bluff chump. Now consider youself on notice bitch.

  • I really feel sorry for you. My dad raised us with good morals.  He told us never to cross a picket line. It's nice to see people are still trying to help others, great video.

  • @MsNinerFan

    Did dad show you mothballed factories where unions once ruled? Did dad explain that communist labor stifles competition and impedes evolution of product and process? Did dad tell you of the proverbial scarlet letter the union employees wear when they try to re-enter job markets after bankrupting their workplaces? Did dad tell you 'scab' is a demeaning slur invented to veil common sense to the point that honest, hard working people go hungry because of politics and greed? No???

  • Unions are corrupt and all but history, unions are for idiots that can't speak for themselves

  • do some research on the history of the formation of unions in this country mollie mcguires coal miners carnigie etc. the hired guns killing innocent UNARMED people the corrupt chicago police shooting unarmed people in the street

    the macnamaras being sent to prison just for being affiliated with unions dont go thru life an ignorant selfish self centered asshole do some reading bruce lee stay home from the gym one night and exercise your brain

  • What about JImmy Hoffa and the Mafia, where has all those union dues gone. Union workers are lazy and do less work than so called scabs. Killing unarmed people ? You must be talking about the black culture here in America as they do their drive by shootings, now if they shoot at me I will immediately return fire. Unions had their place a long time ago now all they do is pit employee against the business owner. Union workers have usually never owned a business and don't have a clue as to reality.

  • You wouldn't say shit standing in front of me coward. I bet your wife is scared to death when she is out in public in a crowd with you as she knows you couldn't protect her with your cowardly lack of courage and your out of shape FAT ass. Hey Blubber boy go get a crying towel chump. Say it to my face bitch

  • I'd school your punk ass and make you look like an amatuer in any fight just bring it bitch

  • I would school you if you ever showed up at my Gym you would leave crying like a little girl wirh your tail tucked between your legs. Step on the mat and roll with me and see what I know. I would make you have a living nightmare if you went toe to toe with me .

  • AHAHAHAHHHHHHAAAAAHHAHAHA!!! TALKING SMACK ON A KEYBOARD... HAHAHAHAHA, YOU CHILD.

    I really liked this video tho, he was picketing yet was informative and without confrontation, giving unions a good name. right on!

  • Black culture? You really are a gem BrokebackWillie.

  • WiiBackboned, are you forgetting all the UNIONS, like just to name a few. Policemen , fireman's, post office workers, all the UNIONS that help maintain the cities of this great nation, ect. ect.. Their is not a free country that does not have a UNION, get use to us they will be hear long after you and I are gone.

  • the only reason you get good pay is because of the unoin,its called { previaling wage} if if wasent for them there would be no middle class America, so think look around your job site and look at the next to you ,i bet he would work for minimum wage,and longer hour,yes lazy. beware working visa. the rich and the poor ,no middle class.

  • Some jobs that only takes one, a union might say, it takes two or more. I'm in a great Non-union factory and everyone makes good money. Benefits are awesome and safety is superior. I (not in my current job) worked with a union guy (mind you at a non-union plant) he was asked to do one more task as he assembled a unit. He refused. At his former union

    job he was a button pusher. Needless to say he didn't last long. But no great loss. Unions make workers lazy and complainers.

  • Unions are the Achilles heal of the Nation. Unions has been leverage for unnecessary pay and benefits. This drives up the costs of goods and sends manufacturing over seas. In a whole the drastic inflation we see today is directly affected by this leveraging by unions to supply even more for deadbeat workers.

  • There is not a free country in the world that does not have a Union. Kinda tells you something does,nt it. Lets go foward and go Union.

  • Going backward you mean, scottsfun?

  • Wasn,t Poland a communist country, brought down by Electrical Union? May I repeat their Is not a free country in the world with out a Union. Not to mention all the human rights that has been giving to the eastern block countries, now that they are free. By forward I mean that we need to organise China now so that they can enjoy safer and more democratic society. Get rid of Unions like you think, and we will have someone like Stalin running the world. Wake up

  • no what it does in reality - what the big shots wont admit - it cuts into their MULTI million dollar profit margin- also so called

    prevailing wage paid non union constrution jobs are corrupt they take money back and dont insure the workers

  • Unions are the Achilles heal of the Nation. Unions has been leverage for unnecessary pay and benefits. This drives up the costs of goods and sends manufacturing over seas. In a whole the drastic inflation we see today is directly affected by this leveraging by unions to supply even more for deadbeat workers.

  • I am a business owner also, I joined the union when I was 18. I would only hire union hands for my jobs that I do, just for the simply reason because you get a better quality worker, that has been schooled in Ironwork. Sure the union has its problem worker but mostly they are more efficient at their job. I can hire out of the hall and have a better chance of a better worker than say hire off the street.

  • Thank you scottsrfun finally someone who makes a valid point in our favor.

  • Very well put. There's no substitute for a well trained, qualified Union tradesperson.

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  • Unions are1/2 the reson for inflation. Workers want more more more more more. That drives cost of goods up. Companies can't afford that.

  • No dick head,construction in newyork makes up only 3% of new yorks economy.The unions of that 3% only has 10% of the construction in newyork.Now around the country there is no union like new york we are the strong hold in america.The housing market which has been booming for the last 12 years with a ll these contractors knocking down one house and putting up 5 or 6 houses Thats what drove up the prices of material.Supply and demand jack ass.The price that someone charges to do a job does nothing

  • Unions is 1/2 the reson for inflation

  • @notforunions u need to shut up

  • I'am a business owner of a structural steel fab and erect non-union company. My guys have a choice of where they work and so does anyone working in this field. They are paid fare and treated well and they are Americans paying taxes. How can anyone complain about that these days. During these times you need to work with who ever as long as you are treated with respect and paid properly. Any one in this country that is on strike needs to check them selves out of this country. God Bless USA.

  • If you treat your workers with respect and pay them the prevailing wage, you are the exception not the rule.

    During these tough times, don't let yourself get taken advantage of.

    To quote a great American...

    If I went to work in a factory, the first thing I'd do would be to join a Union.—Franklin D. Roosevelt

    God Bless the Union

  • You definately quoted a great American. The only thing is that was then and this is now. Unions definately were a huge help in building America. The only thing is the workers were different also. Over the years there attitudes have changed to say the least. Poor attitudes and that me first way of thinking is not what built this country. If we all strive to be the best and constantly look forward then nothing can stop any American. Lets move forward together the best we can. God Bless USA

  • I've never met a man who joined the Union to become rich. Most People just want a little "peace" of the pie.

    Instead of giving money to AIG, I say build, build, bulid and get everyone working.

    Union/non Union, it's not a topic you can just throw a post at. One thing I do know, 9.9 out of 10 people will have better working conditions with a Union.

  • The huge problem with that theory, is history has a tendency of repeating itself. Their once was a time in America were you would work solely for the company. The company owned the house you lived in, the company owned the store you shopped in, with barely enough monies to pay your bills, if you could. Now ask yourself who was mefirst?

  • lets start thumpin these scabs...solidarity forever

  • Building falling over? Thery're work gets inspected the same way as does the unions work. How many times have you seen on the news, a building fell over because a non union company erected it? NEVER!!! The difference between union and non-union work is nothing but the label.

  • dont cut down your own brother, if you have a problem with him go down to the 433 hall and tell him yourself.

  • Local 15 here. Great video with a lot of great things said. This brother Ironworker was calm cool and collected and did not spout rhetoric. Well done.

  • 9 times out of 10 a non union Ironworker would love to join a union. Wages, Pension, Annuity, Vacation Pay, Health Insurance, Representation and Union Pride are just a few differences.

    If you got hired from HomeDepot and are happy with your wages, stay where your at.

    If your going to school to get welding certs. or are tired of working for peanuts, call the Local Union in your area.

  • MouthyOne the name says it all. I am not an ironworker but a union steelworker and i can weld circles around anyone. Unions do not suck. If you were good enough you would know.

  • Make a few test passes on some scrap. Make sure your flux is turning a light shade of Brown.The first pass on that beveled plate is the most important. Make sure you clean your lens real good. Get in a comfortable postion you can remain in for a hour or so. And as you well the pulse should feel crispy and it sound like bacon sizzling. Good Luck Hambone.

  • i go to college upstate new york for my welding degree. I'm knocking out my D.O.T. tests, 3g and 4g on 1" plate ran with 7018-5/32". Any of you ironworkers have any suggestions for a young welder from new york?

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  • Let me say one other thing if I was a Union IronworkeR I would be flat out embarrrised of this man!The fact that L.A.local would let this individual Represent them & speak on there behalf, leaves me speechless.And about thes so called"Concerns" Safety, Quality, Ability?If the UnionIronwork is so great how come they didn't get the job?I bet a debate w/this guy would be over in 2 mins.He would probally just keep repeating what he already said.THISGUYWASPROGRAMED W/THAT SPEECH.Union Rep. or Robot?

  • U wanted to talk to the owner about proper wages first!I think the employee can determine what he/she will work for.U dont know that those welders dont have Certs. NonUnionwelders can get certified the same way as union.Building falling over,get out of here with that B.S., and thats what it is.What are u an engineer too.You can tell by the look on his face when he said that.Hes full of it.NONUNION hands work gets inspected the same way by the same inspectors(sub and or city)as your work does!

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  • Nice shirt... Turn around... Is your back moist?? Who did you vote for? Did you vote??? Picket your house on the work you did on the bathroom... kitchen?? Get back in your Nissan and piss on your WalMart jeans.

  • he is full of shit.....a lying union bum.

  • nice work on educating the people R...

    brohter g =)

  • Damn scabs...

  • Unions suck, and Iron workers are crybaby pussies

  • Right on !!!

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