u are the 1 that is confuse.moors black africans,the original arabs from arab lands are black as ink and the so called white arabs are the product of white slave women and turks and white invarders.
@generalhotep Now your theory would be logically incorrect, because they say the
"Black gene" is dominant, so if the "black gene" is dominant how did it get watered down and turn white? you say by mixing with white women? not true we would see the "black" male YDNA in North Africa and "we don't"! believe it or not the "black" Y dna only reaches 5 to 10% in North Africa, how did it happen??
@GundisalusMenendiz you are using dna to support your bias argument! whites come from blacks but yet dna does not recognize it. if you knew an eighth of what i know then you would change your position. the word Moor itself means black. arabia was an all black region until whites came into the region, intermixed, and more whites came to intermix with the intermixed and you have a diminishing black population with the influx of a large pool of whites. north africa shared the same faith as arabia.
@GundisalusMenendiz Shut the fuck up you dumb ass mother fucking piece of shit.. fuck you and your dead mother and i hope you die from cancer. you sick bitch.
@GundisalusMenendiz Just block this guy. He's too dumb to even speak with. He is probably a heavy user of drugs who never finished high school. He doesn't understand that black Americans are over represented in welfare given that they take up over a 4th of it yet only make up 12% of the total population. On the other hand, he could be a white supremacist trying to make black people look stupid. If so he's wasted a lot of our time by getting us to argue with him.
@jmsnooks Again Dumb bitch do you now how to calculate dumb ass. You stupid fuck that stats are from the Federal Statistics dumb ass. Aids in Africa come from you white fucking missionaries spreading that shit in villages trying to get black dick and natural resources. Blacks make up 12% dumb ass guess what the other percentage is made up of, yet you fuckers have 60% of the welfare rate.
@jmsnooks@jmsnooks Cush is the Father of the Ethiopians, so how could the Negroes come from Cush? Your speaking in complete contradiction to an established institution *gasps!* Now "who" has the conspiracy theories? Not me there is PLENTY of established evidence to show my people are truly Israelites & not Hamites. It's just that ignorant supporters of white racism like yourself "refuse" to accept TRUTH! SAD SMH!
@jmsnooks Nooooo, you should check your genealogies Ham was the father of the darker races but not the negroes. Zondervan's Compact Bible Dictionary pg 213 Ham (perhaps hot) 1. The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood: and one of eight persons to survive the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races: "not the Negroes," but the Egytians, Ethiopians, Lybians, and Canaanites (Gen10:6-29). So hmm where did the Negroes come from if not from Ham?
@MessengerOfTruth27 grandfather, and it's over now. It's time to stop dwelling on slavery and blaming other people for your problems. Also, you should be glad you're in the US with running water, electricty, and affirmative action protecting you instead of Africa with it's warlords and AIDS, where you have to continually worry about your wife getting raped or your head getting sliced in two with a machete.
@GundisalusMenendiz Now, who speaks the jibberish?! Nonsense is"easily" proven false by providing FACTS. Sooo, once again you can't prove me wrong because lies can't be proven true. Keep your opinions to yourself& those who care. I'm in the truth business :)
@GundisalusMenendiz Hahaha you & your foolish unfounded assertions. That's the problem with white people like you. You all believe your gods. Even though your detached from reality. Funny thing is, you can't prove anything I have said is false.
@MessengerOfTruth27 lol I do not believe I'm any better than anyone else, that's your problem right offffff the bat! and btw I can't refute nonsense I can't sit here and listen to this childish jibber jabber. I'll refer you to my video what's white & what's black? the end of it is the best part.
@GundisalusMenendiz & in case you didn't notice Africa is not a country. It is a Continent with many different countries in it, as well as many different nations of people. Ethiopians, Lybians, "Egyptians"Z(real Egyptians, not white Arab invaders).Only a few mentioned. But because your an ignorant fool who supports WHITE SUPREMACY you believe any bit of nonsense that "WHITE" historians(liars) say about "BLACK" people. Instead of whats facts, which is Y the more u talk the dumber u will look.
@MessengerOfTruth27 Look at you, saying everyone is different and then insisting that everyone is the same in the next sentence. You are a prime example of what Afrocentrism has to offer.
@jmsnooks Your a prime example of an ignorant supporter of racism. Speaking about things you don't know anything about. You obviously assume that you can tell me what an Israelite is.. so tell me genius. When your done making a bigger ass of yourself I'll break down my people's history to you.
@MessengerOfTruth27 I am not going to be accused of racism by a black supremacist who believes in conspiracy theories. The Israelites are the Jews and Samaritans, both of which are still in Israel today. The Samaritans never left, so if you want to see what the original Israelites looked like beyond any shadow of a doubt you can look to them. Go ahead, amuse me with your narrative of conspiracy theories and whatever genocides you believe occured.
@jmsnooks By denying Biblical facts about Israelite(MY) history. You are supporting the lies told by white racist centuries ago about my people. 2nd you've shown just how ignorant you are to facts. Samaritans are Samaritans not Israelites, the king of Assyria placed these people in the land of Israel after he removed the Northern tribes of Israel. If you even have a bible read 2nd Kings 17:24. Learn how to crawl, before you try to run. You haven't even learned how to walk first.
@MessengerOfTruth27 Biblical facts tie the Jews in with Shem, and black people are descended from Ham. Check your geneologies. Jews aren't white, they're Middle Eastern Semites. White supremacists actually hate them more than they hate you. The Samaritans were not placed in the land. Some people were brought there and mixed with the survivors of the war, and the modern Israelite Samaritans are directly descended from them. Never stopped speaking Hebrew, and have only the Torah as their...
@GundisalusMenendiz As far as that idiotic theory about our people becoming lighter from all the mixing. HA! Do you know how many of our people would have to have had interracial children? 2 total nations (not some) would have to come to together to be "1" nation, in order to change the complete complexion of an entire people. For example: Native Americans would do this often. In the time of colonialism most times Natives would mix with whites & graft them into the nation. Like Quanah Parker!
@GundisalusMenendiz In fact, most of our people when mixed with white just look like Vanessa Williams, or Shemar Moore, Nicole Ari Parker. Now if you will.... Look at Barack Obama's features & you can see the differences if your not blinded by ignorance. Racist people like Johann F. Blumenbach invented idiotic color groups to say whose who. GOD didn't make things that way after the flood. We all come from Adam, then by Noah, then by his 3 sons Shem, Ham, Japheth all from a man u would call black
@GundisalusMenendiz What are you a 12yr old playing on mommy & daddy's computer? You really are ignorant. There were tens of millions of Israelite(Jew, not Jew-ish) slaves who were brought over during the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade. There couldn't have possibly been enough mixing to make an entire race of people our color or else most if not all of us would look like Barack Obama(your favorite President). Which if you could see you'd notice non of our people when mixed with white look like Obama
@MessengerOfTruth27 what r you five years old???? I wouldn't even say a third of the BS you just said in public, Jesus, you should really keep these thoughts to yourself, cause you really sound not only silly but very childish. where do you people come up with these crazy concepts?? I'm not even going any further with this conversation, say what you want, well you already did, I guess. wow another one bites the dust, I feel bad for people with a mind like yours,I really do wow inf**kingcredible.
@GundisalusMenendiz Oh yeah & for the record The Land of Israel is North-East of Egypt, South of "Modern-day" Turkey & Lebanon, West of Iraq & Iran East to The Mediterranean Sea. & just like Egypt it might "Actually" (key word actually) a part of Africa. Egypt being on The Continent of Africa is African & only a FOOL, IDIOT, JACKASS, MORON would say otherwise. But it just shows how stupid most people in America are to believe otherwise when you can plainly see it's right on the continent.
@MessengerOfTruth27 We know Israel is in Africa but that does not automatically make it black. Israel is in Asia so does that automatically make them all Asians? Just like people in China right? I suppose everyone in India also looks like everyone in China according to your logic. Why don't you pay better attention in school?
@GundisalusMenendiz Hey white guy.. do you know where The United Kingdom is?? It's not in Europe you know that right?? lollollolololol hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@MessengerOfTruth27 You couldn't possibly be any further away from being an Israelite. You are massively and painfully deluded. Can you even point to Israel on a map?
@GundisalusMenendiz Yeah, I'm sure you will in "Nigeria" you moron because Africa is like a furnace. Unlike your people normal people actually have the ability to produce melanin to protect our skin which makes us darker. Hahaha is that your argument Nigeria? Hahahaha Even pale faces have some color in Africa due to the heat. If Nigeria which is hot is your excuse than Cold weather in America is mine & we all know people get lighter in the winter time. (Applause) give the clown a hand!
@MessengerOfTruth27 WHAT????? what about south Africans what's your theory for that part of the world?? it's cool just like the US and Europe, did you watch the world cup??
I saw a lot of "dark/light brownish-copper like the color of a penny" people hahahahahahahahha actually I couldn't make a distinction between Europeans and Africans!!! hahahahahaha
@GundisalusMenendiz What? The natural complexion of a man is of a dark pigment. I don't necessarily believe that's white, so skin can turn lighter but still have a swarthy pigment. Prime example: my people whom idiots like you call BLACK aren't even mostly BLACK. Only a handful are actually black. Most of us are dark/light brownish-copper like the color of a penny. Or brass burnt, East Indians are browner than us. So light isn't recessive but pale is.
afro americans are confused by theyre heritage. thats why they come here claim everything its theyre history lol. i just feel sorry for them. i have black friends in morocco and they know theyre history of slavery.
The Moors constant mixing with the white women of europe only caused their own downfall, seeing as how they seemed to prefer the white women over their own. When most of their Royal seed came out lighter & in turn followed the same path. They brought about their own decline because Light was seen as better. So when the original lighter ppl rose up & kicked them out. It was because of the same things they upheld. Not saying it's anything wrong with being light. Just thinking how Ironic it is.
Whoever put up this video is not too bright! You didn't disprove that there were white Moors by bloodline. You just helped further prove that there was mixing of Blacks, whites, & Arabs. Even further too disprove yourself, you put up art from the 18th & 19th century art which just shows the time of Moorish rule declining in Europe. Further proving that Moors did rule in Europe (particularly Spain). Not much of an argument based on your own evidence. They only got lighter due 2 the white women!
@MessengerOfTruth27 lol wow I didn't see your comment. first smart ass the 19th century art you see are all from the middle east,Turkey,Egypt, India and some from Northern Africa, there's nothing here that you state that's European... So are you saying to me black is dominant or recessive??you guys go around always announcing how dominant black is but now you're saying you turned white because of white women???make up your minds people... you people are really becoming a joke even worse clowns!
@DiScUrNmEnT You believed this big lie? Are you that naif? Or are you blind? Or are you ignorent? What treaty are you talking about?
It has nothing to do with a peace of paper or the USA said they are black. We north africans from Morocco to Siwa in Egypt are the Moors the Amazigh, AND WE AREN'T BLACK. Not even 1% of the population is black.
@SEBTAMRC Science proves itself dumb ass. Don't argue with me, argue with the world of linguistic scholars, archeologist, anthropologist , sociologist, social anthropology or cultural anthropology, anthropological linguistics, and etymologist. Stop making up shit and blowing untrue fact and untrue history our your fucking ass, you a fucking liar form hell.
@DiScUrNmEnT No, that's what you Afrocentrists are doing. How dare you try to tell these people that you know more about their country than they do? What he says is borne out by science, history, and anthropology. No one cares what Diop or anyone like that has to say. They are not real scholars.
@DiScUrNmEnT I don't want to hear your disgusting fantasies, and no one asked for your opinion or comments in the first place. Afrocentric racist ignorant uneducated troll.
@jmsnooks No one puts me in my place. I DON'T HAVE a place faggot. And you don t know what the fuck my place is .. You aids carrying disease infested fucker. All you white trash carry diseases you cancer ridden, lice infected, fucker.
@DiScUrNmEnT That's yourself you are describing not me. And your place is probably about 3rd grade judging by the quality and nature of your comments.
@jmsnooks Im describing you. you cum drinking aids infected white fucker. So why your stupid dumb mother fucking gay ass sending messages to a 3rd grader? You dumb piece of shit. Just like a bitch always try and fall back on that dumb ass education shit, yet your stupid dumb fucking ass reading everything i post and responding. Now who is the 3rd grader dumb ass piece of shit.
@DiScUrNmEnT I respond to every comment I get, but you are right about one thing, you do have no place. You are a sad, disgusting little man who knows nothing about anything, and you are probably a welfare recipient/burden to society as well. Uneducated ignoramus.
@jmsnooks Snooks? you wake the same time I do?? lol these idiots are still sleeping, when they wake up we already have 8 hours ahead of them, for them to be ahead of us they have to wake up much earlier. blacks have many more gays then whites, whites are more queer and blacks are more gay. A queer will probably kick your ass a gay will give you his arse.lol
@GundisalusMenendiz Not normally. I woke up at 2:00 and couldn't go back to sleep. I think he just lost complete control of his emotions, which is really quite common. If we met in person he probably would have TRIED attacking me physically by now, like all those idiots on Jerry Springer and whatever other incest related talk shows there might be.
@jmsnooks First off aids infested faggot, you sent me a fucking message. You and your disease infested race who fuck dogs and horses for sex and spread disease around the globe is whats disgusting. Second you faggot, it's more of you white disease infested trash on all social services, you lazy fucks. Third you dumb piece of shit, again for someone with no education, you dumb stupid mother fucking ass keep reading all my shit, YOu dumb ass fucker, all you white trash are pedophiles.
@DiScUrNmEnT IF we are all those things then what does that make you for being completely dependent on us like you are? How sad for you. Also, let's not forget where AIDS started and who most of the people who have it are. Also, if you want to talk about welfare let's not forget who PAYS it, and more importantly the ratio of people who are on it vs. who pay for themselves. It's much higher in your community. If you want to talk about sexual deviance, that is also much higher in your communi
@jmsnooks Prove any of it wrong bitch. AIDS started with white faggs and like all other diseases the rest of the world has to suffer from what you sick fuckers spread around you dumb ass faggot,, get your fucking facts right., There is more white trash bitch.. get your numbers right dumb ass. We don't sleep with dogs/horses... zootube..and beasthub. com. we don't have a priest hood that fuck thousands of boys and rape children or drink cum..nasty faggot. Do your research dumb bitch.
@DiScUrNmEnT I have done my research, AIDS started in Africa. Either from eating primates or from certain natives having sexual encounters with them. AIDS was brought to the US by queers coming here from Africa. Your community is full of homosexuals, if I had a dollar for every Afrocentrist who told me to .............. Then I would be quite rich by now. There are more white people on welfare only because there are more of us, but we also pay for it all. But a higher percentage of blacks..
@jmsnooks Despite prevailing stereotype, Whites, not Blacks, collect greatest share of public aid dollars/welfare. The federal government defines welfare as all entitlement programs funded through taxes. As of 2011 : Some 61 percent of welfare recipients are White. Robert Charles Gallo an American biomedical . best known for his role in the discovery/creation of the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)generated AIDS. The withe fucker has 69 patents related to Aids and spread the shit
@DiScUrNmEnT Blacks only make up about 10% of the US, but over 27% of welfare recipients are black. That's not a good proportion. 60% of your population is on welfare while only 4% of ours is. AFRICA has the largest population of AIDS carriers.
@jmsnooks Dumb bitch do you now how to calculate dumb ass. You stupid fuck that stats are from the Federal Statistics dumb ass. Aids in Africa come from you white fucking missionaries spreading that shit in villages trying to get black dick and natural resources. Blacks make up 12% dumb ass guess what the other percentage is made up of, yet you fuckers have 60% of the welfare rate. You a dumb piece of shit...YOUR A WHITE faggot nothing more.
the first pictures were accurate....Moors were called on People of different ethnicity
ARABS/BARABERS/TURKS/PERSIANS....and of course the natives Spaniards. All of these people mixed and created a population of Moors who by the way were mostly brown people "light skinned and dark skinned" there were few blacks and whites.
After all this was an ISLAMIC EMPIRE which only means there was no real discrimination. Even the Christians & Jews had a good life Under the rule of MUSLIM MOORS
Its clear that u are only showing a selection of pictures from the late period of Moorisho/black-folk occupation of Europe.But the fact u so desperately trying to steal anthers heritage tells us one thing !!!u have a "white inferiority complex"
Etymology online the term moor;"North African, Berber," late 14c., from O.Fr. More, from M.L. Morus, from L. Maurus "inhabitant of Mauritania" (northwest Africa, a region now corresponding to northern Algeria and Morocco), from Gk. Mauros, perhaps a native name, or else cognate with mauros "black" (but this adjective only appears in late Greek and may as well be from the people's name as the reverse). Being a dark people in relation to Europe
They - whether Americans or ANY others, have the various or remote geographic origins they could have- they have the right to feel a spiritual connection to countries and cultures in world, whether they like them or because they fit or see themselves in them, but they do not have the right to steal for their political or suprem. racial agendas the Peoples that were born there and live there.
If you are in Mali ok. but you are near and you are of the region.
E1b1b1, J1, J2, I and our R1b are Y haplogroups of Caucasoid majority and mtDNA, Haplotypes etc. also have much to say about - but is not my area of science. Read books, see Gundisalus´s video about Western Mediterraneans, See climatic geographical zones.
Several historians say the major Black impact in North Africa was in the last centuries because of trade etc., any way all are Humans. Mediterranean North Africa have both Afro-Bantus and Caucasoids long time ago for geographical reasons.
@Luso515PorTuoGraal E1b1a is more black African, west and South African, altough the regions also have other contributions included R1b (wich is dominat in Western Europe or more original to it).
So I don´t have any race issue here, I´m Portuguese but I recognize the right of the large and ancient vast North African-Countries Populations to protect their history, lands and heritage as we in Lusitania-Ibeira, as you or other,- against any political agenda, in USA or in other part by groups.
Whatever they are, SOME Black Americans racist movements or SOME white Nordics movements with their supremacy or political agendas to suply their own personal frustrations or failors, against Mediterraneans ,Western Mediterraneans, even Western Europeans, Iberians, Portuguese, Spanish etc.. They need to change their lives for their own good.
@dogons2k12 See the Coat of Arms of Tavira, Portimão and several other towns. Google search in Internet. - or the old Arms of the Kingdom of Algarve also.
Samysamy have videos about DNA and of the paleolithic (Mechta Afalou - Algeria)
You can find black Moors, from ancient or recent, but you find with certanty the large ancient Caucasoid or white Mediterranean People who have been living in North Mediterranean Africa and its Atlas for many thousands of years. Makes sense - Mediterranean is the ancient trade high way of coasts and islands, Iberia and Italy were landconnect to North Africa 10000 B.C.
Greetings from Portugal
Greetings to my friend Gundisalus - he know better and very well everything about this.
"For all the negroes or black Moors are descendants of Cush, the son of Ham, who was the son of Noah. but whatever difference there is between the negroes and the tawny Moors, it is a fact that they all are from the same ancestry"
Leo Africanus, A Geographical Historie of Africa, 1600
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there is no debate when it comes to the moors being AFRICAN (I don't use the term BLACK AFRICAN) because the "P2 gene ties close to 75% of the continent together"
@dogons2k12 In many portuguese southern municipalities and in the ancient "Kingdom" of Algarve coat of arms they have always the so-called caucasoid features, equal to the Christian kings always at their side (right or left or diagonal) the same black beard(in major cases) of the Christian King and of the Moor; and with a difference of a turbant as the Christian have the crown; or the skin more tawned in the Moor as a sole difference, but the same type of features on both.
@dogons2k12 In the Coat of arms given to some Discovers you already have sometimes People of Congo etc. They are diverse of the moors of the north on the shield draws.
Any way, I know more my country Portugal, and Spain. Maybe France, Corsica or Italy give you another look to it. Visit original Amazigh People(not Arabs) or others from there.
@dogons2k12 My friend, its only the records and comparisons made in them. You accept or not, but you can not ignore them. Then there is the comparison of East Africa as another exemple - they are not the only ones writen here (you can read previous comments). If you have others that you prefer and you already have written here, as we see, you just fixed only on them. But history is not just for parts but of all records and peoples invloved in history.
@dogons2k12 In many cases the black heads have an ancient Alchimic meaning in traditional european heraldry: black -white - red (bright) - in historical origin cases you see more black moors in northen european heraldry and more cuacasoid moors in souther european coat of arms and heraldry .Why is that?!
@dogons2k12 The Azenaghi, even probably diverse from south or north - a Tuareg modern type maybe - were more aprouch to Sub-Saharian Africans, we think yes, than the father North Africans (Mediterranean Amazigh Peoples more aprouch to Caucasian types) Not convincing?! They are (not only about them) but other records some kind clear (at a certain point), but if they are not convincing for you, fell free for your interpretation, but give the word to imparicial historians and investigators too.
MOOR is a term interchangeably used as the color "BLACK" If you fail to see that then there is no point even discussing this issue.
DRAVIDIANS (black indians) are direct descendants of AFRICANS from the OOA as well as the descendants of NUBIA - KUSHITIC civilizations (hence KUSHANA or NAGA)
Dr. Velu Annamalai is a famous DRAVIDIAN (BLACK INDIAN) activist fighting for the civil rights of the DALITS or BLACK INDIANS.
@dogons2k12 The reports of the first India's Armadas(Cabral, Da Gama etc.) describe the existence of "Black Moors". Apparently with millenium and centuries of relations with North Africa, and occupied several towns in Morocco since 1415, the Portuguese were surprised to discover "Black Moors" - Moors wich were blacks.
The fact was that at that time the Portuguese used call "Moors" (although they were in origin ethnic groups in North African) to the majority of people in Africa and Asia and around all the world recently discovered or to discover, from Berbers, to other Africans, Euroasiatics, Indo-Europeans etc. of any color or ethnicity IF they were above all Islamic, more Arabized yes but also People not arabized in language or costumes, maybe with a few exceptions sometimes to the Persians or other.
I hope you are well prepared. And I hope you could debate intellectually and fairly because I will not apologize after the overwhelming casualties on your side.
If you are going to come at me on the MOORS you better have some weapons and ammunitions ready for battle.
Greetings from Africa. I hope you bring a neutral judge with you as well who will fairly judge the winner of this "future debate"
@dogons2k12 No I will not debate this because I need more fluency in English and therefore requires a very long time, I do not have time - and I´ve seen your silly style here(sometimes). If my English was more fluent maybe. I'm not copy-paste style in with you seems especiliste, no offense my dear.
After 1498 Portuguese reach East Africa. There were black Swaily cities from north of Mozambique, very civilized, culturally Arabized and Islamized and not primitive Peoples many in the west.
When I'm more fluent in English, I'll be happy to discuss these interesting issues, moreover being a video of a friend. I have no racial prejudice to humans - my affinity is for spirit and things in common, not by race or color.
Another think is the right of Iberians, Mediterranian and North African peoples protecting each ones their own heritages and not target of lies like being called invaders in its own original lands.
Apart from that, in our country we are an absolute majority of Atlantic-Mediterranean and Western European original People, with a portion also said North African in origin among others (curiously, some experts say most of the prehistoric era than of Moorish domination period).
We have a huge community of Angolan, Guinea, Mozambique (this Mozambiquean most multi-racial Hindu, black etc.). Etc. and Mullato(majority in Cape Verde) that came from Cape Verde,
...most of them all in the last 15 years and much of they follows the black American culture in music and clothing and inhabits the outskirts-suburbs of Lisbon (in some side resembles the Bronx or Detroit etc..) but eeven so they are not all like that, some follow the Portuguese "culture" so to say. Have a nice day.
This is clear in the chronicles of Azurara and other writers of the fifteenth century. After the discovery of Senegambia the slavery emerged justified as a just war and Christianization, but with economic reasons and greed of a few involved as we know today.
Prince Henry and Portugal seek allies among the Black sub-Saharan Kingdoms and sought to Christianize them and with the goal of lead them against the Muslim world of the north.
(in West Africa and much later in 1482 also in the south, on the Congo) - and looked for Christian Prester John, would it be black or white, or Semitic, African or Asian etc no matter, without any prejudice by the Portuguese at the time, race was not problem, religion was. Prince Henry would even receave emissaries from Ethiopia by land in is lifetime (Portugal would find it later in Ethiopia and would help and save it from Muslim Invasion with Christovão da Gama and his Army)
and began already since Prince Henry to envision a route to India. This is not a matter of discussion, its late Medieval Chronicles of whom knew those people directly.
The Reconquista culture continuation was against N. Africa. In the Chronicles of XV Century - Azurara and others - Subsaharan Africa was different and with a different new discovered People which have no relation to it directly. A fascinating and strange interesting new People with a "black skin" and with its own cultures - in Morocco people own testimony as you read. With reason or not or we could agree or not today, but was that way that the People at the time think and its written.
Apart: altough Portugal made both allies and enemies in North Africa(included Muslims allies - rare but sometimes) and in Subsaharian Africa too. Amongst Christians, Pagans and Muslems.
We hope this have been faithful as possible to Chronicles and somehow enlightening.
(without any tipe of race issue, only keep respect for history.
May the Holy Spirit Blesse we all men, whites, blacks, we caucasians or Iberians or west Atlantians and all te others whatever you all call to Humankind.
@ Afrfor Afrc, So until you bring me facts (and not books) than maybe we will come into some kind of an agreement, but until than educate yourself about other people's heritage, instead of acting like a thug with your capitalized comments. tone it down some and let's debate on the subject.
@GundisalusMenendiz I'm moroccan and I'm whiter than most of the mediteranians. I'm an Amazigh (MOORISH) from an ANDALUCIAN family that was kiked out of spain because we were muslims in the 15th century, and also my other half is a known Amazigh family (natif north african) WE ARE WHITE AND PROUD TO BE, IT'S NOT BECAUSE BLACK IS WRONG, IS JUST WE NORTH AFRICANS ARE WHITE. I'M sure I have some black and arabic blood but it's minor, just like most north africans, specialy moroccans and algerians
@GundisalusMenendiz I LOVE THE VIDEO AND YOUR OTHER VIDEOS, BUT BELIEVE ME THERE IS STILL REAL AMAZIGH WHITE MEDITERANIANS IN NORTH AFRICA AND MANY OF THEM.
@GundisalusMenendiz You are mistaken,at 04:22 that picture shows two islamic sheikhs one from W. Africa and the other from the Caucaus mountain region possibly albanian or bosnian.Look at the elegant clothing of the so called slave. as a so called negro,I never wanted to portray anyone or anything else other than myself or my people.one more thing the people and nations like the Arabs ,Israelites,Cartagentians,etc... that you named our descendent from Ham the son of the prophet Noah.
@SenhoreCondeVasco Tu és ignorante ou estúpido? não á dna de Árabe em Portugal nem chega a 1%. só se tu és parte desse 1%!! ignorante!!
então por favor não me insultes a minha inteligência!! tu és Portugues ou Francês? porque só te vejo a escrever em Francês!!! So I think you should keep your bullshit thoughts to yourself!! my friend, chamas-me racista? quando eu estou a defender a nossa cultura a nossa gente? eu não preciso de parvos como tu andar por aqui!!
FACT# Moors is a term that Europeans gave to dark skinned Arab speaking people from North and west Africa. Thus the name Morocco. Therefore it is impossible to have white moors based on the definition of the term. FACT: General Tarik Ibn Zayid Conquered Spain and Portugal and kept it under the rule of BLACK MOORS for more than 800 years. during that time a lot of crossbreeding was going on. Which is why even to this day there are some very dark Portuguese ppl. and thats all i have to say!
@erj215 yea you're right,actually when you walk into Portugal,it's almost like walking into Dominican Republic,or Brazil,we're all dark as hell because the black Moors left their legacy behind and made us this way.But then we wanted to be even more black so after 1418,we left for Africa again and shipped blacks back to Portugal disguised as slaves,but really we just love being black,but we really don't want anyone to know this,so we're trying to keep these secrets from everyone especially blacks
@AFRICA4AFRICANS 680 but it weren't only the Arabs but almost the Enitre Middle east. North Africa was the only region which could hold the Middle easterners for along tima away until the North Africans started to convert to Islam at that moment the Middle easterner managed with the help of converted the North African to take control over the North African COASTAL cities.
@AFRICA4AFRICANS The Middle easterners had almost 100 years control over North Africa until in 740 the Mighty Zanata Imazighen in completely destroyid and butcherd the Middle easterners in North Africa,some Middle eastrners who survived the massacre have fled to Andalusia. The massacra=e of Middle easterner in North Africa was the fault of the Middle easterners themselves since the where trying to take the lands of the North Africans and they were make also slaves.
@AFRICA4AFRICANS No such thing, not even DNA suggests such stupid false bullcrap, if this was true then Iberians would look like Dominicans, because that's what you get when you cross whites with blacks, and there's a very well known presence of North Africans in Iberia and visa versa for 10's of thousands of years, way before any Greek or Roman or middle easterner or blacks ever reached North Africa.
@erj215 yes they were some subsaharians with the moorish army wish is the real name is almaghrib (where the sun sit), this army is called boukhara, this boukhara were very strong fierce muslim wariors from west africa, so almaghrib army and the boukhara army were one army under the kings of almaghri and they were in alandalous and almaghrib (what is called in latin morocco). And this subsaharian muslim were brought to fight the european christians because they had a biger population.
@erj215 bigger population it means bigger army. so the natif north africans are white. I AM A TYPICAL NORTH AFRICAN AN AMAZIGH (FREE MAN), we have been in this land for more than hundred thousand years. Facts after they found in some new digs in morocco prouve of civilisation that is older than 100000 years. THE GREEK MYTHOLOGY SAYS THAT WE ARE THE AMAZIGH NORTH AFRICANS THE DECENDANTS OF ATLANTIS PEOPLE. I hope you got the answer you need about why they call us moors.
@erj215 fuck what europeans are saying, Amazigh are white. Moors are the Amazigh. and we are the Moors (Mauritania: old name for morocco and algeria). We even had generals and emperors in rome. Do you think rome we let a black man in that era to rule?! Look at moroccans ang algerians and tunisians, do we look black for you? Tariq ibn ziyad was an amazigh and we are proud of him.
1im from morocco an the native of morocco r amazigh or berbers (not barbar) not black people white people but not too white an after the arab invasion (islam) come the seconde race arab race black hair black eyes an some of them white an others brown but not black an its berberian who conquest spain (tarik bnou zyad berberian after becomin muslim) an after that the arabs took the control of spain after that new empire has been founded in morocco (almoravite an almoahades)
"where I can find these ancient irrigation systems and roads in south Africa. please please."
THIS is exactly what I'm talking about. You claim to be the SUPERIOR European wannabe but yet I have to keep BABYSITTING you from MALI to do research.!!!!
WHY don't you spend 10 mins out of your time to research TRUE AFRICAN HISTORY on the internet (not WIKIPEDIA) or HISTORY CHANNEL since I already know that you don't read. Other wise I'll keep DEBUNKING ure stupid ASS.
I live in MALI, but I will be in the U.S. for the SOUTH AFRICAN ruins U.S. TOUR conference which will be hosted by MICHAEL TELLINGER who wrote: TEMPLES OF THE AFRICAN GODS: Revealing the ancient hidden ruins of South Africa.
I have made the first series of a youtube video dealing with that. Those ruins which I have seen for myself are incredible. If you arrive in South Africa you could book a tour by helicopter because that's the only way you could see all the SOUTH AFRICAN ruins!
"back to cities in Africa have you researched yet who built Luanda? and who destroyed it?"
Oh yeah I found that Europeans ENSLAVED & CIVILIZED by AFRICANS for 700 yrs sent ALIENS to build AFRICA in ancient & medieval times b4 they got there
Then in 1900s when AFRICANS kicked out EUROPEANS, the HIGHly sophisticated self- MODERNISATION -TECHNOLOGY of the EUROneanders transformed into MODERN high sophisticated buildings.
@dogons2k12 WOW incredible! your proof is in movies! roflmfao!!
Get something straight imbecile dark straight hair, and dark eyes are the oldest phenotype in Europeans, not blond hair and blue eyes, there's two theories for blond hair and blue eyes,
ONE thing at a TIME euroNUT. Let's start with the ASTRONIMICAL OBSERVATORIES of NABTA PLAYA. "nabta playa ceremonial complex (South Of Egypt) 20 km from the complex they found an ancient african cemetry that contained 67 ancient tombs whch were excavated by experts. The evidence overwhelmingly portrayed that of black Africans by DNA, and skeletal measurements.
BLACK GENESIS (the book released in APRIL) by Thomas Brophy & Robert Bauval.
@GundisalusMenendiz watch?v=-oEYHkLmXRM 75,000 year old watch?v=GIQTNEff0AY snippet watch?v=0X0DSr7WAco Oldest Calculator watch?v=sEQ2VQhIAgA 22,000 year old CALCULATOR watch?v=9UmW9pyARKc Dogon Cosmology watch?v=7n36qV4Lk94 AFRICAN FRACTALS GOOGLE: World’s languages traced back to single African mother tongue THE BLACKMAN is GOD CASE CLOSED BONUS feature: watch?v=_R-0MyTsmiU&feature=related ANY DOUBTS?!?! Don't hesitate to ASK QUESTIONS
@dogons2k12 you're like a Mexican jumping bean, you start with one subject and you jump to another, I can't follow all the stupidity you're writing. please send some sources where I can find these ancient irrigation systems and roads in south Africa. please please.
@nicovelz87@GundisalusMenendiz euroNUT is saying that modern AFRICAN CITIES were built by Portuguese, French & North African.
This shit is PURE entertainment now.
This FOOL does not know that North Africa & Southern Europe has the NASTIEST BIDONVILLES (SHANTYTOWNS) in the world. I mean it is so BAD, the TERM SHANTYTOWN is indigenous to N. Africa & Europe
you gonna tell me N. Africans or EUROnuts built AFRICA. LMAOF
New Zealand researchers have traced every human language — from English to Mandarin — back to an ancestral language spoken in Africa 50,000 to 70,000 years ago.
@dogons2k12 Again you're taking things out of context, "it's a hypothesized theory" for instance there are more phonemes in the English language than there is in the Portuguese language, so does this mean the English language is older than the Portuguese? wtf how would they know if there even was a language 50K yrs ago?
It seems to me the further away humans moved from the equator the smarter they got, it still happens today I guess...
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. DUDE you are one silly individual.
Ghana EMPIRE 300 AD - 1200 AD. Dude this AFRICAN Empire had toilets, irrigation systems, and glass windows before the BRITTONS managed to express their GRUNTS into symbols.
DUDE If I were YOU I will write a MEAN LETTER to the HISTORY department for DUMB F@$# your BRAIN into STUPIDITY. DISCOVERY & NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC are not making it ANY BETTER dude.
OMG euroCENTRICS are something else!!!!! I have heard it all NOW!!
portuguese?!? French, Italians, Germans. LMAOF U R just so silly. Have U ever been to portugal, france or Italy. SHIT STAINS on the MAP. So how the F@$# could they not build the SAME way in their OWN COUNTRIES?!?
@dogons2k12 hahaha Been to Portugal, been to Spain, been to France, been to Italy, I even been to Ceuta, so yes I speak from experience, who do you think built Angola? who do you think built South Africa? Bantus??????
@GundisalusMenendiz "Where do you live? in a mud hut or a home? Do you live in the jungle or what city do you live in?" ahahahahaha. Seriously?!!?!!??! It is obvious you WATCH too much animal planet, Fox news or NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC channel dude. HINT: BOOKS & TRAVEL could help you know. That's the thing with euroCENTRICS. They think civilization is based on sky scrappers and buildings. WRONG DUDE. Here is where I live. the beautiful & TRUE MOTHERLAND. - - - - - - /watch?v=ZYlZVS2uTak
@dogons2k12 hahaha.... you're a hypocrite! you sent me a video of cities in Africa built by who?
By the Portuguese, English, French, Italians, Germans, and North Africans!! hahaha oh yea the video also contained what? skyscrapers!! I guess that Eurocentric mind also affected your negrocentric brain!!!
Now shut up and fetch me a beer and at the same time fetch yourself a history book on African cities...
@Bjjownsu10 "you dumbass shit" WOW how INTELLIGENT?!?!
Ofcourse. I will assume that you are European who probably used WIKIPEDIA or Google to have an IDEA of what you consider North African. So I guess BLACK to you means BANTU huh?!?! LMAOF
Wow your logic and route of reasoning is not even worth the debate. TUAREGS, Berbers, BEDJA, Badarians, Zarma, PEUL, HAUSA, Fulani etc are all considered NATIVE NORTH AFRICAN and they are as DARK as the BANTU's my friend. Not modern ARABS in N. Africa.
Since you sent me here I had the pleasure to read your nonsense bullshit again!
YES to me black means Bantu Pygmy and San, there are differences between the Tuareg from the north and Tuareg near Nigeria, even DNA testing distinguishes these differences!! I didn't know BEDJA (Beija), Badarians, Zarma, PEUL, HAUSA, Fulani etc were in North Africa! Go open a book, or at least look at a MAP!! Badarian is not a RACE! The archeological finds from el-Badari form the original basis for Badarian!
@DiScUrNmEnT Your wish is my command loser...
GundisalusMenendiz 1 week ago
u are the 1 that is confuse.moors black africans,the original arabs from arab lands are black as ink and the so called white arabs are the product of white slave women and turks and white invarders.
generalhotep 1 week ago
@generalhotep Now your theory would be logically incorrect, because they say the
"Black gene" is dominant, so if the "black gene" is dominant how did it get watered down and turn white? you say by mixing with white women? not true we would see the "black" male YDNA in North Africa and "we don't"! believe it or not the "black" Y dna only reaches 5 to 10% in North Africa, how did it happen??
GundisalusMenendiz 5 days ago
@GundisalusMenendiz you are using dna to support your bias argument! whites come from blacks but yet dna does not recognize it. if you knew an eighth of what i know then you would change your position. the word Moor itself means black. arabia was an all black region until whites came into the region, intermixed, and more whites came to intermix with the intermixed and you have a diminishing black population with the influx of a large pool of whites. north africa shared the same faith as arabia.
capmictu 7 hours ago
@DiScUrNmEnT Not once Mr.Snooks has used fowl language towards you, try to do the same, if you can't let me know and I'll block you for good.
GundisalusMenendiz 1 week ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Shut the fuck up you dumb ass mother fucking piece of shit.. fuck you and your dead mother and i hope you die from cancer. you sick bitch.
DiScUrNmEnT 1 week ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Just block this guy. He's too dumb to even speak with. He is probably a heavy user of drugs who never finished high school. He doesn't understand that black Americans are over represented in welfare given that they take up over a 4th of it yet only make up 12% of the total population. On the other hand, he could be a white supremacist trying to make black people look stupid. If so he's wasted a lot of our time by getting us to argue with him.
jmsnooks 1 week ago
@jmsnooks he's a degenerate unemployed piece of garbage who doesn't know his ass from his elbow, he's one dumb boozer.
GundisalusMenendiz 1 week ago
@jmsnooks Again Dumb bitch do you now how to calculate dumb ass. You stupid fuck that stats are from the Federal Statistics dumb ass. Aids in Africa come from you white fucking missionaries spreading that shit in villages trying to get black dick and natural resources. Blacks make up 12% dumb ass guess what the other percentage is made up of, yet you fuckers have 60% of the welfare rate.
DiScUrNmEnT 1 week ago
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@jmsnooks @jmsnooks Cush is the Father of the Ethiopians, so how could the Negroes come from Cush? Your speaking in complete contradiction to an established institution *gasps!* Now "who" has the conspiracy theories? Not me there is PLENTY of established evidence to show my people are truly Israelites & not Hamites. It's just that ignorant supporters of white racism like yourself "refuse" to accept TRUTH! SAD SMH!
MessengerOfTruth27 2 weeks ago
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@jmsnooks Nooooo, you should check your genealogies Ham was the father of the darker races but not the negroes. Zondervan's Compact Bible Dictionary pg 213 Ham (perhaps hot) 1. The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood: and one of eight persons to survive the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races: "not the Negroes," but the Egytians, Ethiopians, Lybians, and Canaanites (Gen10:6-29). So hmm where did the Negroes come from if not from Ham?
MessengerOfTruth27 2 weeks ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 grandfather, and it's over now. It's time to stop dwelling on slavery and blaming other people for your problems. Also, you should be glad you're in the US with running water, electricty, and affirmative action protecting you instead of Africa with it's warlords and AIDS, where you have to continually worry about your wife getting raped or your head getting sliced in two with a machete.
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Now, who speaks the jibberish?! Nonsense is"easily" proven false by providing FACTS. Sooo, once again you can't prove me wrong because lies can't be proven true. Keep your opinions to yourself& those who care. I'm in the truth business :)
MessengerOfTruth27 4 weeks ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Hahaha you & your foolish unfounded assertions. That's the problem with white people like you. You all believe your gods. Even though your detached from reality. Funny thing is, you can't prove anything I have said is false.
MessengerOfTruth27 4 weeks ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 lol I do not believe I'm any better than anyone else, that's your problem right offffff the bat! and btw I can't refute nonsense I can't sit here and listen to this childish jibber jabber. I'll refer you to my video what's white & what's black? the end of it is the best part.
GundisalusMenendiz 4 weeks ago
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@GundisalusMenendiz hey check this out
watch?v=4Zu8C315iJk
eazydee415 3 weeks ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Love your videos.
MrPa1310 1 week ago
@MrPa1310 thnx bro I love making them...
GundisalusMenendiz 1 week ago
@GundisalusMenendiz & in case you didn't notice Africa is not a country. It is a Continent with many different countries in it, as well as many different nations of people. Ethiopians, Lybians, "Egyptians"Z(real Egyptians, not white Arab invaders).Only a few mentioned. But because your an ignorant fool who supports WHITE SUPREMACY you believe any bit of nonsense that "WHITE" historians(liars) say about "BLACK" people. Instead of whats facts, which is Y the more u talk the dumber u will look.
MessengerOfTruth27 4 weeks ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 Look at you, saying everyone is different and then insisting that everyone is the same in the next sentence. You are a prime example of what Afrocentrism has to offer.
jmsnooks 3 weeks ago
@jmsnooks Your a prime example of an ignorant supporter of racism. Speaking about things you don't know anything about. You obviously assume that you can tell me what an Israelite is.. so tell me genius. When your done making a bigger ass of yourself I'll break down my people's history to you.
MessengerOfTruth27 2 weeks ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 I am not going to be accused of racism by a black supremacist who believes in conspiracy theories. The Israelites are the Jews and Samaritans, both of which are still in Israel today. The Samaritans never left, so if you want to see what the original Israelites looked like beyond any shadow of a doubt you can look to them. Go ahead, amuse me with your narrative of conspiracy theories and whatever genocides you believe occured.
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@jmsnooks By denying Biblical facts about Israelite(MY) history. You are supporting the lies told by white racist centuries ago about my people. 2nd you've shown just how ignorant you are to facts. Samaritans are Samaritans not Israelites, the king of Assyria placed these people in the land of Israel after he removed the Northern tribes of Israel. If you even have a bible read 2nd Kings 17:24. Learn how to crawl, before you try to run. You haven't even learned how to walk first.
MessengerOfTruth27 2 weeks ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 Biblical facts tie the Jews in with Shem, and black people are descended from Ham. Check your geneologies. Jews aren't white, they're Middle Eastern Semites. White supremacists actually hate them more than they hate you. The Samaritans were not placed in the land. Some people were brought there and mixed with the survivors of the war, and the modern Israelite Samaritans are directly descended from them. Never stopped speaking Hebrew, and have only the Torah as their...
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 ..holy text
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@GundisalusMenendiz As far as that idiotic theory about our people becoming lighter from all the mixing. HA! Do you know how many of our people would have to have had interracial children? 2 total nations (not some) would have to come to together to be "1" nation, in order to change the complete complexion of an entire people. For example: Native Americans would do this often. In the time of colonialism most times Natives would mix with whites & graft them into the nation. Like Quanah Parker!
MessengerOfTruth27 4 weeks ago
@GundisalusMenendiz In fact, most of our people when mixed with white just look like Vanessa Williams, or Shemar Moore, Nicole Ari Parker. Now if you will.... Look at Barack Obama's features & you can see the differences if your not blinded by ignorance. Racist people like Johann F. Blumenbach invented idiotic color groups to say whose who. GOD didn't make things that way after the flood. We all come from Adam, then by Noah, then by his 3 sons Shem, Ham, Japheth all from a man u would call black
MessengerOfTruth27 4 weeks ago
@GundisalusMenendiz What are you a 12yr old playing on mommy & daddy's computer? You really are ignorant. There were tens of millions of Israelite(Jew, not Jew-ish) slaves who were brought over during the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade. There couldn't have possibly been enough mixing to make an entire race of people our color or else most if not all of us would look like Barack Obama(your favorite President). Which if you could see you'd notice non of our people when mixed with white look like Obama
MessengerOfTruth27 4 weeks ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 what r you five years old???? I wouldn't even say a third of the BS you just said in public, Jesus, you should really keep these thoughts to yourself, cause you really sound not only silly but very childish. where do you people come up with these crazy concepts?? I'm not even going any further with this conversation, say what you want, well you already did, I guess. wow another one bites the dust, I feel bad for people with a mind like yours,I really do wow inf**kingcredible.
GundisalusMenendiz 4 weeks ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Yisrael: "He who wrestles with GOD", the name of Ya'qob son Isaac son Abram (Abra'ham). Anymore questions moron? o_0
MessengerOfTruth27 4 weeks ago
@jmsnooks So-called a.k.a African Americans, Israelites! Who are your people?
MessengerOfTruth27 1 month ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 lol hey Israelite do you know what Israel means??and do you know where Israel is?? it's not in Congo you know that right??
GundisalusMenendiz 1 month ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Oh yeah & for the record The Land of Israel is North-East of Egypt, South of "Modern-day" Turkey & Lebanon, West of Iraq & Iran East to The Mediterranean Sea. & just like Egypt it might "Actually" (key word actually) a part of Africa. Egypt being on The Continent of Africa is African & only a FOOL, IDIOT, JACKASS, MORON would say otherwise. But it just shows how stupid most people in America are to believe otherwise when you can plainly see it's right on the continent.
MessengerOfTruth27 4 weeks ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 We know Israel is in Africa but that does not automatically make it black. Israel is in Asia so does that automatically make them all Asians? Just like people in China right? I suppose everyone in India also looks like everyone in China according to your logic. Why don't you pay better attention in school?
jmsnooks 3 weeks ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Hey white guy.. do you know where The United Kingdom is?? It's not in Europe you know that right?? lollollolololol hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
MessengerOfTruth27 4 weeks ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 You couldn't possibly be any further away from being an Israelite. You are massively and painfully deluded. Can you even point to Israel on a map?
jmsnooks 3 weeks ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Yeah, I'm sure you will in "Nigeria" you moron because Africa is like a furnace. Unlike your people normal people actually have the ability to produce melanin to protect our skin which makes us darker. Hahaha is that your argument Nigeria? Hahahaha Even pale faces have some color in Africa due to the heat. If Nigeria which is hot is your excuse than Cold weather in America is mine & we all know people get lighter in the winter time. (Applause) give the clown a hand!
MessengerOfTruth27 1 month ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 WHAT????? what about south Africans what's your theory for that part of the world?? it's cool just like the US and Europe, did you watch the world cup??
I saw a lot of "dark/light brownish-copper like the color of a penny" people hahahahahahahahha actually I couldn't make a distinction between Europeans and Africans!!! hahahahahaha
GundisalusMenendiz 1 month ago
@GundisalusMenendiz What? The natural complexion of a man is of a dark pigment. I don't necessarily believe that's white, so skin can turn lighter but still have a swarthy pigment. Prime example: my people whom idiots like you call BLACK aren't even mostly BLACK. Only a handful are actually black. Most of us are dark/light brownish-copper like the color of a penny. Or brass burnt, East Indians are browner than us. So light isn't recessive but pale is.
MessengerOfTruth27 1 month ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 lol Prime example: my people whom idiots like you call BLACK aren't even mostly BLACK. Only a handful are actually black. "????"
yea because you're mixed ancestry made you lighter, if we both take a ride to west Africa, let's say Nigeria, Senegal???
I doubt if we'll find these light crispy brown individuals like you claim.
WTF???? Most of us are dark/light brownish-copper like the color of a penny.
hahahahahahahaha chalk one up for the funny guy.
GundisalusMenendiz 1 month ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 Who are your people?
jmsnooks 1 month ago
afro americans are confused by theyre heritage. thats why they come here claim everything its theyre history lol. i just feel sorry for them. i have black friends in morocco and they know theyre history of slavery.
outernettboy 1 month ago
is this video a joke?
i guess this are Indians as well
/watch?v=P8M1ey6U5io&feature=related
hahaha the inferiority of eurocentrism
8rdf 1 month ago
The Moors constant mixing with the white women of europe only caused their own downfall, seeing as how they seemed to prefer the white women over their own. When most of their Royal seed came out lighter & in turn followed the same path. They brought about their own decline because Light was seen as better. So when the original lighter ppl rose up & kicked them out. It was because of the same things they upheld. Not saying it's anything wrong with being light. Just thinking how Ironic it is.
MessengerOfTruth27 1 month ago
Whoever put up this video is not too bright! You didn't disprove that there were white Moors by bloodline. You just helped further prove that there was mixing of Blacks, whites, & Arabs. Even further too disprove yourself, you put up art from the 18th & 19th century art which just shows the time of Moorish rule declining in Europe. Further proving that Moors did rule in Europe (particularly Spain). Not much of an argument based on your own evidence. They only got lighter due 2 the white women!
MessengerOfTruth27 1 month ago
@MessengerOfTruth27 lol wow I didn't see your comment. first smart ass the 19th century art you see are all from the middle east,Turkey,Egypt, India and some from Northern Africa, there's nothing here that you state that's European... So are you saying to me black is dominant or recessive??you guys go around always announcing how dominant black is but now you're saying you turned white because of white women???make up your minds people... you people are really becoming a joke even worse clowns!
GundisalusMenendiz 1 month ago
Our very own United States has recognized the moors as black people with the treaty they made so fuck what everybody else is saying.
DiScUrNmEnT 2 months ago
@DiScUrNmEnT You believed this big lie? Are you that naif? Or are you blind? Or are you ignorent? What treaty are you talking about?
It has nothing to do with a peace of paper or the USA said they are black. We north africans from Morocco to Siwa in Egypt are the Moors the Amazigh, AND WE AREN'T BLACK. Not even 1% of the population is black.
SEBTAMRC 2 months ago
@SEBTAMRC Science proves itself dumb ass. Don't argue with me, argue with the world of linguistic scholars, archeologist, anthropologist , sociologist, social anthropology or cultural anthropology, anthropological linguistics, and etymologist. Stop making up shit and blowing untrue fact and untrue history our your fucking ass, you a fucking liar form hell.
DiScUrNmEnT 2 months ago
@DiScUrNmEnT No, that's what you Afrocentrists are doing. How dare you try to tell these people that you know more about their country than they do? What he says is borne out by science, history, and anthropology. No one cares what Diop or anyone like that has to say. They are not real scholars.
jmsnooks 3 weeks ago
@jmsnooks Shut your gay, faggot ass up... dick breath faggot. who asked your fudge packing, disease carrying ass anything.
DiScUrNmEnT 3 weeks ago
@DiScUrNmEnT I don't want to hear your disgusting fantasies, and no one asked for your opinion or comments in the first place. Afrocentric racist ignorant uneducated troll.
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@DiScUrNmEnT You guys are the most foolish obnoxious internet trolls, which is why everyone puts you in your place.
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@jmsnooks No one puts me in my place. I DON'T HAVE a place faggot. And you don t know what the fuck my place is .. You aids carrying disease infested fucker. All you white trash carry diseases you cancer ridden, lice infected, fucker.
DiScUrNmEnT 2 weeks ago
@DiScUrNmEnT That's yourself you are describing not me. And your place is probably about 3rd grade judging by the quality and nature of your comments.
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@jmsnooks Im describing you. you cum drinking aids infected white fucker. So why your stupid dumb mother fucking gay ass sending messages to a 3rd grader? You dumb piece of shit. Just like a bitch always try and fall back on that dumb ass education shit, yet your stupid dumb fucking ass reading everything i post and responding. Now who is the 3rd grader dumb ass piece of shit.
DiScUrNmEnT 2 weeks ago
@DiScUrNmEnT I respond to every comment I get, but you are right about one thing, you do have no place. You are a sad, disgusting little man who knows nothing about anything, and you are probably a welfare recipient/burden to society as well. Uneducated ignoramus.
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@jmsnooks Snooks? you wake the same time I do?? lol these idiots are still sleeping, when they wake up we already have 8 hours ahead of them, for them to be ahead of us they have to wake up much earlier. blacks have many more gays then whites, whites are more queer and blacks are more gay. A queer will probably kick your ass a gay will give you his arse.lol
GundisalusMenendiz 2 weeks ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Not normally. I woke up at 2:00 and couldn't go back to sleep. I think he just lost complete control of his emotions, which is really quite common. If we met in person he probably would have TRIED attacking me physically by now, like all those idiots on Jerry Springer and whatever other incest related talk shows there might be.
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@jmsnooks First off aids infested faggot, you sent me a fucking message. You and your disease infested race who fuck dogs and horses for sex and spread disease around the globe is whats disgusting. Second you faggot, it's more of you white disease infested trash on all social services, you lazy fucks. Third you dumb piece of shit, again for someone with no education, you dumb stupid mother fucking ass keep reading all my shit, YOu dumb ass fucker, all you white trash are pedophiles.
DiScUrNmEnT 2 weeks ago
@DiScUrNmEnT IF we are all those things then what does that make you for being completely dependent on us like you are? How sad for you. Also, let's not forget where AIDS started and who most of the people who have it are. Also, if you want to talk about welfare let's not forget who PAYS it, and more importantly the ratio of people who are on it vs. who pay for themselves. It's much higher in your community. If you want to talk about sexual deviance, that is also much higher in your communi
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@DiScUrNmEnT What a joke that you call your name discernment, when you're just a complete clown who clearly knows nothing about anything.
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@jmsnooks Prove any of it wrong bitch. AIDS started with white faggs and like all other diseases the rest of the world has to suffer from what you sick fuckers spread around you dumb ass faggot,, get your fucking facts right., There is more white trash bitch.. get your numbers right dumb ass. We don't sleep with dogs/horses... zootube..and beasthub. com. we don't have a priest hood that fuck thousands of boys and rape children or drink cum..nasty faggot. Do your research dumb bitch.
DiScUrNmEnT 2 weeks ago
@DiScUrNmEnT I have done my research, AIDS started in Africa. Either from eating primates or from certain natives having sexual encounters with them. AIDS was brought to the US by queers coming here from Africa. Your community is full of homosexuals, if I had a dollar for every Afrocentrist who told me to .............. Then I would be quite rich by now. There are more white people on welfare only because there are more of us, but we also pay for it all. But a higher percentage of blacks..
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@DiScUrNmEnT are welfare recipients, and that's what matters. Nice try, doesn't work.
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@jmsnooks Despite prevailing stereotype, Whites, not Blacks, collect greatest share of public aid dollars/welfare. The federal government defines welfare as all entitlement programs funded through taxes. As of 2011 : Some 61 percent of welfare recipients are White. Robert Charles Gallo an American biomedical . best known for his role in the discovery/creation of the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)generated AIDS. The withe fucker has 69 patents related to Aids and spread the shit
DiScUrNmEnT 2 weeks ago
@DiScUrNmEnT Blacks only make up about 10% of the US, but over 27% of welfare recipients are black. That's not a good proportion. 60% of your population is on welfare while only 4% of ours is. AFRICA has the largest population of AIDS carriers.
jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@jmsnooks Dumb bitch do you now how to calculate dumb ass. You stupid fuck that stats are from the Federal Statistics dumb ass. Aids in Africa come from you white fucking missionaries spreading that shit in villages trying to get black dick and natural resources. Blacks make up 12% dumb ass guess what the other percentage is made up of, yet you fuckers have 60% of the welfare rate. You a dumb piece of shit...YOUR A WHITE faggot nothing more.
DiScUrNmEnT 2 weeks ago
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jmsnooks 2 weeks ago
@SEBTAMRC man you just talk shiit and curs for nothing, go to morocco to see by yourself. u make no sence
SEBTAMRC 4 weeks ago
why don't any of these afrotards look at all the genetic studies that have been done? sorry but your lies don't correspond with real evidence DNA.
aussie66monster 2 months ago
the first pictures were accurate....Moors were called on People of different ethnicity
ARABS/BARABERS/TURKS/PERSIANS....and of course the natives Spaniards. All of these people mixed and created a population of Moors who by the way were mostly brown people "light skinned and dark skinned" there were few blacks and whites.
After all this was an ISLAMIC EMPIRE which only means there was no real discrimination. Even the Christians & Jews had a good life Under the rule of MUSLIM MOORS
CMJ84 4 months ago
Its clear that u are only showing a selection of pictures from the late period of Moorisho/black-folk occupation of Europe.But the fact u so desperately trying to steal anthers heritage tells us one thing !!!u have a "white inferiority complex"
endubsar 5 months ago
Etymology online the term moor;"North African, Berber," late 14c., from O.Fr. More, from M.L. Morus, from L. Maurus "inhabitant of Mauritania" (northwest Africa, a region now corresponding to northern Algeria and Morocco), from Gk. Mauros, perhaps a native name, or else cognate with mauros "black" (but this adjective only appears in late Greek and may as well be from the people's name as the reverse). Being a dark people in relation to Europe
endubsar 5 months ago
fake facts..random pictures..please don't deliberately mislead people to your agenda.
Nalminji 6 months ago
They - whether Americans or ANY others, have the various or remote geographic origins they could have- they have the right to feel a spiritual connection to countries and cultures in world, whether they like them or because they fit or see themselves in them, but they do not have the right to steal for their political or suprem. racial agendas the Peoples that were born there and live there.
If you are in Mali ok. but you are near and you are of the region.
Ended the discussion for now.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
E1b1b1, J1, J2, I and our R1b are Y haplogroups of Caucasoid majority and mtDNA, Haplotypes etc. also have much to say about - but is not my area of science. Read books, see Gundisalus´s video about Western Mediterraneans, See climatic geographical zones.
Several historians say the major Black impact in North Africa was in the last centuries because of trade etc., any way all are Humans. Mediterranean North Africa have both Afro-Bantus and Caucasoids long time ago for geographical reasons.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal E1b1a is more black African, west and South African, altough the regions also have other contributions included R1b (wich is dominat in Western Europe or more original to it).
So I don´t have any race issue here, I´m Portuguese but I recognize the right of the large and ancient vast North African-Countries Populations to protect their history, lands and heritage as we in Lusitania-Ibeira, as you or other,- against any political agenda, in USA or in other part by groups.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
Whatever they are, SOME Black Americans racist movements or SOME white Nordics movements with their supremacy or political agendas to suply their own personal frustrations or failors, against Mediterraneans ,Western Mediterraneans, even Western Europeans, Iberians, Portuguese, Spanish etc.. They need to change their lives for their own good.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal "Greetings to my friend Gundisalus"
I have DEBUNKED him countless times ...
You seem to TAPDANCE around the subject of the moorish coat of arms.
I want answers and you haven't provided none so far.
The so called Caucasoid people in north Africa are descended from over 1.5 - 2 million plus slaves that were transported from IBERIA to N. Africa.
There were also what you call Caucasian Christian converts who rose to top ranks during MOORISH rule.
dogons2k12 7 months ago
@dogons2k12 See the Coat of Arms of Tavira, Portimão and several other towns. Google search in Internet. - or the old Arms of the Kingdom of Algarve also.
Samysamy have videos about DNA and of the paleolithic (Mechta Afalou - Algeria)
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
You can find black Moors, from ancient or recent, but you find with certanty the large ancient Caucasoid or white Mediterranean People who have been living in North Mediterranean Africa and its Atlas for many thousands of years. Makes sense - Mediterranean is the ancient trade high way of coasts and islands, Iberia and Italy were landconnect to North Africa 10000 B.C.
Greetings from Portugal
Greetings to my friend Gundisalus - he know better and very well everything about this.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
"For all the negroes or black Moors are descendants of Cush, the son of Ham, who was the son of Noah. but whatever difference there is between the negroes and the tawny Moors, it is a fact that they all are from the same ancestry"
Leo Africanus, A Geographical Historie of Africa, 1600
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there is no debate when it comes to the moors being AFRICAN (I don't use the term BLACK AFRICAN) because the "P2 gene ties close to 75% of the continent together"
S.O.Y keita
dogons2k12 7 months ago
@dogons2k12 In many portuguese southern municipalities and in the ancient "Kingdom" of Algarve coat of arms they have always the so-called caucasoid features, equal to the Christian kings always at their side (right or left or diagonal) the same black beard(in major cases) of the Christian King and of the Moor; and with a difference of a turbant as the Christian have the crown; or the skin more tawned in the Moor as a sole difference, but the same type of features on both.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
@dogons2k12 In the Coat of arms given to some Discovers you already have sometimes People of Congo etc. They are diverse of the moors of the north on the shield draws.
Any way, I know more my country Portugal, and Spain. Maybe France, Corsica or Italy give you another look to it. Visit original Amazigh People(not Arabs) or others from there.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
So according to you since the moors had "NEGROE SLAVES" then that immediately classifies them as ARABS or white?!?!
Again your argument will never see the light if you stick to that argument.
In WEST AFRICA today African muslims today still sometimes feel superior to their Christian African Brethren although of the same bloodline.
The mossi kingdom of Burkina Faso had numerous African slaves. Does that make the Mossi "modern arab or white"?!
still not convincing:)
dogons2k12 7 months ago
@dogons2k12 My friend, its only the records and comparisons made in them. You accept or not, but you can not ignore them. Then there is the comparison of East Africa as another exemple - they are not the only ones writen here (you can read previous comments). If you have others that you prefer and you already have written here, as we see, you just fixed only on them. But history is not just for parts but of all records and peoples invloved in history.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal
Dude there is just way too much evidence regarding the MOORS as AFRICANS ( DARK / LIGHT SKIN / VERY DARK) in Europe way before and after 711 A.D.
I don't even know where to start with you!!!
Here is a very simple question for you ... if you don't mind
Could you explain why there are hundreds of CROWNED AFRICAN HEADS or BLACK KINGS represented on Moorish coat of arms on EUROPEAN flags?!?!?!?
I'll be waiting for your response ... don't worry:)
dogons2k12 7 months ago
@dogons2k12 In many cases the black heads have an ancient Alchimic meaning in traditional european heraldry: black -white - red (bright) - in historical origin cases you see more black moors in northen european heraldry and more cuacasoid moors in souther european coat of arms and heraldry .Why is that?!
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
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Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
@dogons2k12 The Azenaghi, even probably diverse from south or north - a Tuareg modern type maybe - were more aprouch to Sub-Saharian Africans, we think yes, than the father North Africans (Mediterranean Amazigh Peoples more aprouch to Caucasian types) Not convincing?! They are (not only about them) but other records some kind clear (at a certain point), but if they are not convincing for you, fell free for your interpretation, but give the word to imparicial historians and investigators too.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
"But to return to Prince Henry of Portugal. We learn that he had
conversed much with those who had made voyages in different parts of the
world, and particularly with Moors from Fez and Morocco, so that he came to
hear of the Azeneghis, a people bordering on the country of the negroes of
Jalof."
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
"Azeneghi Moors promised to give black slaves in ransom for themselves if he would take
them back to their own country; and the Prince,... "insisting as the foundation of the matter,
that if Goncalves should not be able to obtain so many negroes (as had been
mentioned) in exchange for the three Moors, yet that he should take them; for
whatever number he should get, he would gain souls, because the negroes might
be converted to the faith, which could not be managed with the Moors.""
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Dude @11:37 LMOAF
MOOR is a term interchangeably used as the color "BLACK" If you fail to see that then there is no point even discussing this issue.
DRAVIDIANS (black indians) are direct descendants of AFRICANS from the OOA as well as the descendants of NUBIA - KUSHITIC civilizations (hence KUSHANA or NAGA)
Dr. Velu Annamalai is a famous DRAVIDIAN (BLACK INDIAN) activist fighting for the civil rights of the DALITS or BLACK INDIANS.
/watch?v=2RJxyiWSwpw
dogons2k12 7 months ago
@dogons2k12 The reports of the first India's Armadas(Cabral, Da Gama etc.) describe the existence of "Black Moors". Apparently with millenium and centuries of relations with North Africa, and occupied several towns in Morocco since 1415, the Portuguese were surprised to discover "Black Moors" - Moors wich were blacks.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
The fact was that at that time the Portuguese used call "Moors" (although they were in origin ethnic groups in North African) to the majority of people in Africa and Asia and around all the world recently discovered or to discover, from Berbers, to other Africans, Euroasiatics, Indo-Europeans etc. of any color or ethnicity IF they were above all Islamic, more Arabized yes but also People not arabized in language or costumes, maybe with a few exceptions sometimes to the Persians or other.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
@Luso515PorTuoGraal Are you sure you want to debate me on this subject?!?!?
I hope you are well prepared. And I hope you could debate intellectually and fairly because I will not apologize after the overwhelming casualties on your side.
If you are going to come at me on the MOORS you better have some weapons and ammunitions ready for battle.
Greetings from Africa. I hope you bring a neutral judge with you as well who will fairly judge the winner of this "future debate"
Hotep from MALI:)
dogons2k12 7 months ago
@dogons2k12 No I will not debate this because I need more fluency in English and therefore requires a very long time, I do not have time - and I´ve seen your silly style here(sometimes). If my English was more fluent maybe. I'm not copy-paste style in with you seems especiliste, no offense my dear.
After 1498 Portuguese reach East Africa. There were black Swaily cities from north of Mozambique, very civilized, culturally Arabized and Islamized and not primitive Peoples many in the west.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
When I'm more fluent in English, I'll be happy to discuss these interesting issues, moreover being a video of a friend. I have no racial prejudice to humans - my affinity is for spirit and things in common, not by race or color.
Another think is the right of Iberians, Mediterranian and North African peoples protecting each ones their own heritages and not target of lies like being called invaders in its own original lands.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
Apart from that, in our country we are an absolute majority of Atlantic-Mediterranean and Western European original People, with a portion also said North African in origin among others (curiously, some experts say most of the prehistoric era than of Moorish domination period).
We have a huge community of Angolan, Guinea, Mozambique (this Mozambiquean most multi-racial Hindu, black etc.). Etc. and Mullato(majority in Cape Verde) that came from Cape Verde,
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
...most of them all in the last 15 years and much of they follows the black American culture in music and clothing and inhabits the outskirts-suburbs of Lisbon (in some side resembles the Bronx or Detroit etc..) but eeven so they are not all like that, some follow the Portuguese "culture" so to say. Have a nice day.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
This is clear in the chronicles of Azurara and other writers of the fifteenth century. After the discovery of Senegambia the slavery emerged justified as a just war and Christianization, but with economic reasons and greed of a few involved as we know today.
Prince Henry and Portugal seek allies among the Black sub-Saharan Kingdoms and sought to Christianize them and with the goal of lead them against the Muslim world of the north.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
(in West Africa and much later in 1482 also in the south, on the Congo) - and looked for Christian Prester John, would it be black or white, or Semitic, African or Asian etc no matter, without any prejudice by the Portuguese at the time, race was not problem, religion was. Prince Henry would even receave emissaries from Ethiopia by land in is lifetime (Portugal would find it later in Ethiopia and would help and save it from Muslim Invasion with Christovão da Gama and his Army)
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
and began already since Prince Henry to envision a route to India. This is not a matter of discussion, its late Medieval Chronicles of whom knew those people directly.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
The Reconquista culture continuation was against N. Africa. In the Chronicles of XV Century - Azurara and others - Subsaharan Africa was different and with a different new discovered People which have no relation to it directly. A fascinating and strange interesting new People with a "black skin" and with its own cultures - in Morocco people own testimony as you read. With reason or not or we could agree or not today, but was that way that the People at the time think and its written.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
Apart: altough Portugal made both allies and enemies in North Africa(included Muslims allies - rare but sometimes) and in Subsaharian Africa too. Amongst Christians, Pagans and Muslems.
We hope this have been faithful as possible to Chronicles and somehow enlightening.
(without any tipe of race issue, only keep respect for history.
May the Holy Spirit Blesse we all men, whites, blacks, we caucasians or Iberians or west Atlantians and all te others whatever you all call to Humankind.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
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So you admit that there was an African presence in Spain at one point.
MrJcornell 7 months ago
hhhh what a load of bullshit,
Moors were Imazighen (berbers)
seriously, some complexed negros need some serious help.
lem7acher 7 months ago 2
@ Afrfor Afrc, So until you bring me facts (and not books) than maybe we will come into some kind of an agreement, but until than educate yourself about other people's heritage, instead of acting like a thug with your capitalized comments. tone it down some and let's debate on the subject.
GundisalusMenendiz 7 months ago
@GundisalusMenendiz I'm moroccan and I'm whiter than most of the mediteranians. I'm an Amazigh (MOORISH) from an ANDALUCIAN family that was kiked out of spain because we were muslims in the 15th century, and also my other half is a known Amazigh family (natif north african) WE ARE WHITE AND PROUD TO BE, IT'S NOT BECAUSE BLACK IS WRONG, IS JUST WE NORTH AFRICANS ARE WHITE. I'M sure I have some black and arabic blood but it's minor, just like most north africans, specialy moroccans and algerians
SEBTAMRC 5 months ago
@GundisalusMenendiz I LOVE THE VIDEO AND YOUR OTHER VIDEOS, BUT BELIEVE ME THERE IS STILL REAL AMAZIGH WHITE MEDITERANIANS IN NORTH AFRICA AND MANY OF THEM.
SEBTAMRC 5 months ago
@GundisalusMenendiz You are mistaken,at 04:22 that picture shows two islamic sheikhs one from W. Africa and the other from the Caucaus mountain region possibly albanian or bosnian.Look at the elegant clothing of the so called slave. as a so called negro,I never wanted to portray anyone or anything else other than myself or my people.one more thing the people and nations like the Arabs ,Israelites,Cartagentians,etc... that you named our descendent from Ham the son of the prophet Noah.
tuckerm60 1 month ago
@SenhoreCondeVasco Tu és ignorante ou estúpido? não á dna de Árabe em Portugal nem chega a 1%. só se tu és parte desse 1%!! ignorante!!
então por favor não me insultes a minha inteligência!! tu és Portugues ou Francês? porque só te vejo a escrever em Francês!!! So I think you should keep your bullshit thoughts to yourself!! my friend, chamas-me racista? quando eu estou a defender a nossa cultura a nossa gente? eu não preciso de parvos como tu andar por aqui!!
GundisalusMenendiz 8 months ago
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@GundisalusMenendiz excuse my ignorance but I couldn't tell the difference between the Arabs and Iberian Moors.
akkadianarab 8 months ago
FACT# Moors is a term that Europeans gave to dark skinned Arab speaking people from North and west Africa. Thus the name Morocco. Therefore it is impossible to have white moors based on the definition of the term. FACT: General Tarik Ibn Zayid Conquered Spain and Portugal and kept it under the rule of BLACK MOORS for more than 800 years. during that time a lot of crossbreeding was going on. Which is why even to this day there are some very dark Portuguese ppl. and thats all i have to say!
erj215 9 months ago
@erj215 yea you're right,actually when you walk into Portugal,it's almost like walking into Dominican Republic,or Brazil,we're all dark as hell because the black Moors left their legacy behind and made us this way.But then we wanted to be even more black so after 1418,we left for Africa again and shipped blacks back to Portugal disguised as slaves,but really we just love being black,but we really don't want anyone to know this,so we're trying to keep these secrets from everyone especially blacks
GundisalusMenendiz 9 months ago 6
@erj215 You have never been to Portugal.
PortuguesePatriot 8 months ago
@erj215 WHEN DID THE ARABS COME INTO NORTH AFRICA!!!!!
AFRICA4AFRICANS 8 months ago
@AFRICA4AFRICANS 680 but it weren't only the Arabs but almost the Enitre Middle east. North Africa was the only region which could hold the Middle easterners for along tima away until the North Africans started to convert to Islam at that moment the Middle easterner managed with the help of converted the North African to take control over the North African COASTAL cities.
zizouzenati 7 months ago
@AFRICA4AFRICANS The Middle easterners had almost 100 years control over North Africa until in 740 the Mighty Zanata Imazighen in completely destroyid and butcherd the Middle easterners in North Africa,some Middle eastrners who survived the massacre have fled to Andalusia. The massacra=e of Middle easterner in North Africa was the fault of the Middle easterners themselves since the where trying to take the lands of the North Africans and they were make also slaves.
zizouzenati 7 months ago
@zizouzenati BEFORE ALL OF THAT MID-EASTERN THERE WAS NOTHING BUT AFRICANS BLACK PEOPLE...THIS BULLSHIT YOU INVADERS HAVE DIVIDE UP OUR LAND!!!
AFRICA4AFRICANS 7 months ago
@AFRICA4AFRICANS We are talking now about NORTH AFRICANS not SUB Saharan Afrikans, North Africans are the Imazighen(Berbers) and Egyptians.
zizouzenati 7 months ago
@AFRICA4AFRICANS No such thing, not even DNA suggests such stupid false bullcrap, if this was true then Iberians would look like Dominicans, because that's what you get when you cross whites with blacks, and there's a very well known presence of North Africans in Iberia and visa versa for 10's of thousands of years, way before any Greek or Roman or middle easterner or blacks ever reached North Africa.
GundisalusMenendiz 7 months ago
@erj215 yes they were some subsaharians with the moorish army wish is the real name is almaghrib (where the sun sit), this army is called boukhara, this boukhara were very strong fierce muslim wariors from west africa, so almaghrib army and the boukhara army were one army under the kings of almaghri and they were in alandalous and almaghrib (what is called in latin morocco). And this subsaharian muslim were brought to fight the european christians because they had a biger population.
SEBTAMRC 4 months ago
@erj215 bigger population it means bigger army. so the natif north africans are white. I AM A TYPICAL NORTH AFRICAN AN AMAZIGH (FREE MAN), we have been in this land for more than hundred thousand years. Facts after they found in some new digs in morocco prouve of civilisation that is older than 100000 years. THE GREEK MYTHOLOGY SAYS THAT WE ARE THE AMAZIGH NORTH AFRICANS THE DECENDANTS OF ATLANTIS PEOPLE. I hope you got the answer you need about why they call us moors.
SEBTAMRC 4 months ago
@erj215 fuck what europeans are saying, Amazigh are white. Moors are the Amazigh. and we are the Moors (Mauritania: old name for morocco and algeria). We even had generals and emperors in rome. Do you think rome we let a black man in that era to rule?! Look at moroccans ang algerians and tunisians, do we look black for you? Tariq ibn ziyad was an amazigh and we are proud of him.
SEBTAMRC 2 months ago
@SEBTAMRC No offence if I said fuck europeans, I just got frustrated of this lies about my people. Sorry, GundisalusMenendiz.
SEBTAMRC 2 months ago
1im from morocco an the native of morocco r amazigh or berbers (not barbar) not black people white people but not too white an after the arab invasion (islam) come the seconde race arab race black hair black eyes an some of them white an others brown but not black an its berberian who conquest spain (tarik bnou zyad berberian after becomin muslim) an after that the arabs took the control of spain after that new empire has been founded in morocco (almoravite an almoahades)
hichsalsero 9 months ago
@GundisalusMenendiz LoL
"where I can find these ancient irrigation systems and roads in south Africa. please please."
THIS is exactly what I'm talking about. You claim to be the SUPERIOR European wannabe but yet I have to keep BABYSITTING you from MALI to do research.!!!!
WHY don't you spend 10 mins out of your time to research TRUE AFRICAN HISTORY on the internet (not WIKIPEDIA) or HISTORY CHANNEL since I already know that you don't read. Other wise I'll keep DEBUNKING ure stupid ASS.
dogons2k12 9 months ago
@nicovelz87
I live in MALI, but I will be in the U.S. for the SOUTH AFRICAN ruins U.S. TOUR conference which will be hosted by MICHAEL TELLINGER who wrote: TEMPLES OF THE AFRICAN GODS: Revealing the ancient hidden ruins of South Africa.
I have made the first series of a youtube video dealing with that. Those ruins which I have seen for myself are incredible. If you arrive in South Africa you could book a tour by helicopter because that's the only way you could see all the SOUTH AFRICAN ruins!
dogons2k12 9 months ago
@GundisalusMenendiz
"back to cities in Africa have you researched yet who built Luanda? and who destroyed it?"
Oh yeah I found that Europeans ENSLAVED & CIVILIZED by AFRICANS for 700 yrs sent ALIENS to build AFRICA in ancient & medieval times b4 they got there
Then in 1900s when AFRICANS kicked out EUROPEANS, the HIGHly sophisticated self- MODERNISATION -TECHNOLOGY of the EUROneanders transformed into MODERN high sophisticated buildings.
WOW I'm quite Impressed!!. LMOF
watch?v=l1LhCzQDoXA
dogons2k12 9 months ago
dogons2k12 back to cities in Africa have you researched yet who built Luanda? and who destroyed it?
GundisalusMenendiz 9 months ago
@dogons2k12 WOW incredible! your proof is in movies! roflmfao!!
Get something straight imbecile dark straight hair, and dark eyes are the oldest phenotype in Europeans, not blond hair and blue eyes, there's two theories for blond hair and blue eyes,
GundisalusMenendiz 9 months ago
(1) it was a mutation that took place long ago during the LGM, supposedly do to the cold climate
(very unreliable) because I don't see too many Eskimos with blond hair and blue eyes....
the most plausible and the most sensible one, is
(2) blond hair and blue eyes migrated from northern Asia into Europe around the time of LGM some say even much later maybe 5/4000 yrs ago.
GundisalusMenendiz 9 months ago 5
(3) Western Europeans belong to the oldest DNA in Europe, which in contrast all have dark hair and dark eyes.
(4) BTW Blacks don't have brown eyes unless they have mixed ancestry, 90% of continental Africans have eyes that are totally black not brown.
This is all an American ol wise tale, that whites only have blond hair and blue eyes....
It's also a Jewish belief because more then half of Ashkenazi Jews (Europeans) have blue eyes....
GundisalusMenendiz 9 months ago 2
@GundisalusMenendiz
"guess who lives in these SHANTYTOWNS!! ALL AFRICANS!!!"
@nicovelz87 look at definition BELOW and see how INGENIOUS eu-ROB-peans are. LMAOF
wwwDOTthefreedictionaryDOTcom/Bidonvilles
I can tell you are just a desperate northern EUROPEAN wannabe.Remember BLONDE HAIR, BLUE EYES became BLACK HAIR, BROWN EYES?!?!?
Hmm is it because AFRICANS in spain did so much BANGING in their HAREMS with blond hair blue eyed women?
HMMMM I never thought about that!
watch?v=l1LhCzQDoXA
dogons2k12 9 months ago
@OneMove33 wheres ur facts i just prove to u what me people have done now show what has the nasty european has done
nicovelz87 9 months ago
@GundisalusMenendiz
ONE thing at a TIME euroNUT. Let's start with the ASTRONIMICAL OBSERVATORIES of NABTA PLAYA. "nabta playa ceremonial complex (South Of Egypt) 20 km from the complex they found an ancient african cemetry that contained 67 ancient tombs whch were excavated by experts. The evidence overwhelmingly portrayed that of black Africans by DNA, and skeletal measurements.
BLACK GENESIS (the book released in APRIL) by Thomas Brophy & Robert Bauval.
This site dates back about 9000 yrs
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dogons2k12 9 months ago
@dogons2k12 Again, white men books or Caucasian men teories. How ironic!
Luso515PorTuoGraal 7 months ago
is this the same theory as your refrigerator inventor?
GundisalusMenendiz 9 months ago
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dogons2k12 9 months ago
@GundisalusMenendiz "wtf how would they know if there even was a language 50K yrs ago?"
WOW!!!!!
IGNORANCE AT its BEST
So I guess the most ANCIENT RUINS in SOUTH AFRICA with irrigation systems, roads and gold mines were also built by EUROPEANS?!. LOL
The first MEGALITHIC STONES (Astronomical Observatories) in South Africa were also built by EUROPEANS atleast 50,000 years?!?!LOL
Astronomical Observatories - 300 BC in KENYA (NAMORATUNGA SITES) were also built by EUROPEANS?!LOL
U R HILARIOUS!
dogons2k12 9 months ago
@dogons2k12 you're like a Mexican jumping bean, you start with one subject and you jump to another, I can't follow all the stupidity you're writing. please send some sources where I can find these ancient irrigation systems and roads in south Africa. please please.
GundisalusMenendiz 9 months ago
@nicovelz87 @GundisalusMenendiz euroNUT is saying that modern AFRICAN CITIES were built by Portuguese, French & North African.
This shit is PURE entertainment now.
This FOOL does not know that North Africa & Southern Europe has the NASTIEST BIDONVILLES (SHANTYTOWNS) in the world. I mean it is so BAD, the TERM SHANTYTOWN is indigenous to N. Africa & Europe
you gonna tell me N. Africans or EUROnuts built AFRICA. LMAOF
NOW check out definition
wwwDOTthefreedictionaryDOTcom/Bidonvilles
dogons2k12 9 months ago
@dogons2k12 I missed this comment of yours about (SHANTYTOWNS) guess who lives in these SHANTYTOWNS!! ALL AFRICANS!!!
GundisalusMenendiz 9 months ago
@GundisalusMenendiz
"what language are you writing in"
New Zealand researchers have traced every human language — from English to Mandarin — back to an ancestral language spoken in Africa 50,000 to 70,000 years ago.
News Desk April 15, 2011 07:54
GOOGLE: World's languages traced back to single African mother tongue.
@nicovelz87 euroNUT just made a fool out of himself AGAIN. I can't believe it. AGAIN?!?!!?
BLACK man is GOD
Y do U think AFRICA is known as the MOTHERLAND?!?!?
DUMB NUT
dogons2k12 9 months ago
@dogons2k12 Again you're taking things out of context, "it's a hypothesized theory" for instance there are more phonemes in the English language than there is in the Portuguese language, so does this mean the English language is older than the Portuguese? wtf how would they know if there even was a language 50K yrs ago?
It seems to me the further away humans moved from the equator the smarter they got, it still happens today I guess...
GundisalusMenendiz 9 months ago
@GundisalusMenendiz "where do you shit? outside or do you use a toilet?"
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. DUDE you are one silly individual.
Ghana EMPIRE 300 AD - 1200 AD. Dude this AFRICAN Empire had toilets, irrigation systems, and glass windows before the BRITTONS managed to express their GRUNTS into symbols.
DUDE If I were YOU I will write a MEAN LETTER to the HISTORY department for DUMB F@$# your BRAIN into STUPIDITY. DISCOVERY & NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC are not making it ANY BETTER dude.
dogons2k12 9 months ago
@dogons2k12 do u stay in the U.S if u i got a show for u to listen to
nicovelz87 9 months ago
@GundisalusMenendiz
"By the Portuguese, English, French, Italians, Germans, and North Africans!!"
R you really serious?!?!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OMG euroCENTRICS are something else!!!!! I have heard it all NOW!!
portuguese?!? French, Italians, Germans. LMAOF U R just so silly. Have U ever been to portugal, france or Italy. SHIT STAINS on the MAP. So how the F@$# could they not build the SAME way in their OWN COUNTRIES?!?
PSYCHOTIC RACIST!!
dogons2k12 9 months ago
@dogons2k12 hahaha Been to Portugal, been to Spain, been to France, been to Italy, I even been to Ceuta, so yes I speak from experience, who do you think built Angola? who do you think built South Africa? Bantus??????
Pygmies????? hehehehe.......
GundisalusMenendiz 9 months ago
dogons2k12 9 months ago
@dogons2k12 hahaha.... you're a hypocrite! you sent me a video of cities in Africa built by who?
By the Portuguese, English, French, Italians, Germans, and North Africans!! hahaha oh yea the video also contained what? skyscrapers!! I guess that Eurocentric mind also affected your negrocentric brain!!!
Now shut up and fetch me a beer and at the same time fetch yourself a history book on African cities...
GundisalusMenendiz 9 months ago
@Bjjownsu10 "you dumbass shit" WOW how INTELLIGENT?!?!
Ofcourse. I will assume that you are European who probably used WIKIPEDIA or Google to have an IDEA of what you consider North African. So I guess BLACK to you means BANTU huh?!?! LMAOF
Wow your logic and route of reasoning is not even worth the debate. TUAREGS, Berbers, BEDJA, Badarians, Zarma, PEUL, HAUSA, Fulani etc are all considered NATIVE NORTH AFRICAN and they are as DARK as the BANTU's my friend. Not modern ARABS in N. Africa.
dogons2k12 9 months ago
Since you sent me here I had the pleasure to read your nonsense bullshit again!
YES to me black means Bantu Pygmy and San, there are differences between the Tuareg from the north and Tuareg near Nigeria, even DNA testing distinguishes these differences!! I didn't know BEDJA (Beija), Badarians, Zarma, PEUL, HAUSA, Fulani etc were in North Africa! Go open a book, or at least look at a MAP!! Badarian is not a RACE! The archeological finds from el-Badari form the original basis for Badarian!
GundisalusMenendiz 9 months ago
YOUR WELL DRESS LIES HAVE BEEN UNDRESS BY THE NAKED TRUTH!!!
WHITEMAN FOR ONCE IN YOUR SHORT LIFE TELL THE TRUTH....JUST TRY!
AFRICA4AFRICANS 10 months ago
@AFRICA4AFRICANS
Banu Musa,
al-Hajjaj ibn Matar ,
Muhammad ibn Musa Al-Charisma ,
Hunayn ibn Ishaq, Abd al-Hamid ibn Turk ,
Ahmad ibn `Abdullah al-Marwazi Habas al-Hasib ,
Thabit ibn Qurra ,
al-Fadl al-Nayrizi ,Abu Kamil ibn Aslam ,
Bulllseye2012 10 months ago
@AFRICA4AFRICANS
Qusta ibn Luka ,
Abu `Abdallah Mohammad ibn Jabir al-Battani ,
Abu Nasr al-Farabi ,Ibrahim ibn Sinan ,
Abu Sahl al-Kuhi, Abu l'Hasan al-Uqlidisi ,
Abd al-`Aziz al-Qabisi ,Muhammad Abu l'Wafa ,
Abd al-Jalil al-Size ,
Abu `Ali al-H