CrossTalk: Palestine lost?

[jamesoneist]

aLL THE FASCISTS are the same: First you shoud hear their false speech and then when you want to defend your REASON, your facts, they begin to shout and speak over you to don't allow the people hear anything. Nasty people! You can't hide the truth.

[JohnnyRoastbeef21]

Palestine should have been a state. All these wars would have been avoided if these devils would of left Palestinian people alone and not took their land. The Brittish are also responsible for supporting those thieves.

[a717575]

who remembers when norman finkelstein ripped GISSEN a new asshole on cross talk.. now that was a debate 4 those of u who missed it soem key delights

NORMAN: WHAT IF I COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND SAID MY ANSESTORIAL FAMILY LIVED WHERE U LIVE 2000 YEARS AGO, WOULD U PACK UP AND LEAVE?

GISSEN: 3000 YEARS AGO 3000

GISSEN: COMPARES ISRAELI SETTLERS LIKE THOSE OF EURO BRITS WHO SETTLEED IN AMERICA 4 THE FIRST TIME

NORMAN: WELL THAT COIMPARISION IS RIGHT,

ITS PURE GOLD.

[avnerouch]

kabook Israelis accept all Arabs and Christians.It is clear you are all propaganda.

[avnerouch]

why are Israelis evil???he said the Palestinians do not accept israel and waged war in 48 ,is that false??

[kabooki09]

@avnerouch The Israelis do not accept Palestinians, Christian or Muslim. The Palestinians had no military, no jets, helicopters, tanks and their meager weapons were from WWI. Aren't you aware of the Palestine Papers, leaked to Al Jazeera a few weeks ago? The Pals were willing to give every concession & Israel refused, they like the Palestinians to be off balance.

[xMaXiMuSx]

@avnerouch

the Palestinians did NOT accept being kicked out of homes so a jewish state was to be created..

[1Littleagger]

Why does America have any say in the 2 countries They cant even run America right.

[KumakoXsd]

Wow.. this makes me even more angrier towards Israeli's.

[pistol987]

Faux News is dying!

[pistol987]

why is it you will never hear such a talk in western media :/

[kabooki09]

@pistol987 try googling who owns the western main stream media? Something like 95% Jewish owned or controlled.  That answers that question.

[Rizzojerky]

Why is it that whenever the gentleman fron Gaza tries to make a point.....Gr.Gessum or whatever from Israel interrupts and never allows him to finish his point???? He is afraid of the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!

[gast1981]

So incredible...

that Israeli guy says *exactly* what makes Israel and unfortunately Jews in general so unpopular.

Ist just absurd, what these guys claim, its wrong under any law, its offensive to anyone who cares about human rights.

Israeli piece of shit lying like theres tomorrow.

[suskky]

Just like most Jews  Gissin is so obnoxious and stupid

[hevron22]

@suskky pro israel forum at JTF.org

[ProtestantsRUs]

You may or may not have asked yourself the question of why Israels bothers to blockade that shitty piece of land in the first place (you probably didn't because TV didn't tell you to). Well, the cause of the conflict is that Hamas, being the legal government of Gaza, is insisting on playing with their Quassam fireworks, which scares the Jew dogs in the town of Sderot. (seriously though, real fireworks kill more people). So Jews waged a fucking war, permabanning about a 1000 Hamas supporters.

[fog0death]

@ProtestantsRUs Unfortunately for you. It is LEGAL for an occupied country to resist that occupation. It is LEGAL for Hamas, being the resistence force of Palestine, to launch "fireworks" at the Zionist pigs. Simple fact.

[ProtestantsRUs]

@fog0death In AD 2008, War was beginning. Since last Thursday the Arabs in the Gaza Strip have been shooting rockets into Israel because the Jews have been blockading the region to stop the Arabs A) from shooting said rockets and/or B) getting food. Its a beautiful system eh? Anyway It all came to a head when the Jews got bored of a temporary cease fire and decided to surprise buttsecks the Arabs and invaded the region, killing about everyone.

[fog0death]

@ProtestantsRUs The Jews have never honored their agreements. They broke the cease fire, they don't let IAEA inspect their nuclear arsenal, and they don't even follow international laws. It shows us clearly that the Jews are just plain honorless thieves.

[Msunbird02]

@fog0death Using your logic, that can only mean that the muslim killers of other muslims at WTC on 9/11/2001 are just plain honorless murderers. Right?

[fortnightshowcase]

most people are not born evil it is the society and ideology.

[mannhorn34]

That is nice of the settlers to build all of those posh community's for the Arabs when they return. They will love the decor.

[RazorCell7]

look at the Israeli laughing at white phosphorus.. . does he ever know what the fuck white phosphorus does to you! Lets just say I would rather be killed in a gas chamber then be killed by white phosphorus!! what kind of fucked up Army fires White Phosphorus at a school? at a mosque? at a hospital?

one with poor infantry capability?

White phosphorus is alot worse then Zyklon B and you can believe that!

[ifycammy]

Raanan Gissin is an inteligent man.thanks mr Gissin,may God bless you

[WinkyMaeve]

i want to punch that ugly tiny jew in the face, what a fucking evil human being

[Hamilton111111]

for everyone who don´t ever see a devel, just see at gisin in jerusalem.

[kingofpuntland]

@Gerofoxx,

You must be a retard, the holy land has been occupied by many people not just Jews. Plus the Palestians are the decendence of the earliers inhabitants of Palestine (Cannites) these zionist aren't even the biblical jews but rather khazaars a nomardic pagan tribe in eastern Europe who coverted to judaism so clearly they are not the owners of the holy land but the Palestinians are.

[talal64]

Somebody should kick This Zionist ape on his ass. His attitude that is full of stupidity and arrogance gives the real crystal clear image of Zionists. One word I must say to this farter, as a Zionist and apologist of so called Israel you should be ashamed of yourself for being fully dependant on all sorts of supports from USA. Nobody respect such a handicapped country that beg aids from USA and Europe.. Be a country with dignity enough and depend on yourself if you dear to do so.

[HANNIBALbengal]

ps, these semites arabs asians CAN NOT PUT A ARGUMENT ACROSS.

[HANNIBALbengal]

chosen by GOD hitler Bolshevik talk.

You europeans NON semitic NON ASIANS get OUT.

Jew does NOT make you ASIAN.

AS FOR MUSLIMS.

WOW 1.7 bill yet you can NOT stop bengali massacre by Porkistan. of 3mill

How did muslim Stop the slaughter of Iraq/Afghan?? 6mill

MUSLIMS ARE USELESS & SELFISH.

Just apologists, lil thinkers.

[zebdmaya]

jack ass

[greenplanets]

Shut the fuk up u Jewish moron, let other people talk. What a dickhead!.

[phooey108]

God, I love Peter Lavelle.

[atom11220]

I am so sorry, you must be a helpless case. I can argue no further. You have made your point. All must bow down to the ALL MIGHTY JEWS. No other race can be equal to such a chosen group of people. I am so sorry O' Great Gerofoxx (Just in case you do not get it, this is all said with sarcasm).

[atom11220]

The amount of brainwashing that takes place is amazing. You have just reiterated the same statement that the aid to the previous Israeli prime minister has stated in this video. Let's look before the resolution which your comrade mentions profusely in this video. 1917- Balfour Treaty was signed by Britain granting a Jewish national home, with respect for the rights of NON-JEWISH Palestinians. What does that tell you? There were already people there who owned that land. Force is implied.

[atom11220]

Let us look at the Resolution that allocates 55% of the OCCUPIED land to the Israeli State.

[atom11220]

Gerofoxx, I would like to tell you that the things that come out of your mouth are a representation of the brainwashing that occurs in the media and the Israeli classrooms. How can one justify the forcible takeover of a land that was already inhabited? How can one agree with the heinous crimes that the Israeli army committs to create their own land? You are absolutely wrong in your judgement of the situation!

[alalim111]

@ Gerofoxx

lol your very funny because if you think that jews made dessert into a living land that means your saying the whole of palestine was dessert.

man you know nothing about this topic so i dont want to wast anymore time typing to you just Google palestine 1917 and palestine 1948 the talk about it.

and by the way i am not against jews i am againts Zoinism.

[alalim111]

well u said fr 3000jewish but ok lets say i missed years. areu saying it was jewish 3000 years ago then the jewish left to europe then they wanted to come back?

[alalim111]

@Gerofoxx

Hahahahahaha so you are saying that the whole of Palestine which is about 30,000 KM squared was for 3000 people only? come on what the hell is going on here lol

3000 people can fit into a little village so how the hell did they survive is all the worlds that happened in asia lol man u dont even know what the hell your talking about so dont get in this topic.

before you talk about any topic read about it then you can talk about it lol.

[alalim111]

@ Gerofoxx

Lol what is israel? Its Palestine !!!!!!!

And u still not answered my question so i will ask it agian and answer meso i can believe you.

If it was holy Israel then why did the british troops occupy Palestine in 1917?

my answer is: "Because its holy Palestine not Holy Israeland its never been holy Israel".

Answer me to prove me wrong.

[alalim111]

@Gerofoxx

what is israel man? where is israel i never heard of a country called israel but i heard about Palestine because thats where i am from and my grandad was one of the people who was forced to leave palestine in 1948.

and u didnt answer my questions so ill ask it agian.

if you say it was holy Israel then why did the british troops occupy Paletine in 1917?

answer my question to make me believe that there was no holy Palestine, it was Holy Israel.

Answer it to Prove it

FUCKER!

[alalim111]

look you fucking dick head i dont want to bring religions in this as i said before but u best respect your my and all the religions or and the quran is totaly different fromthe bible. our topic is palestine and israel and i can clearly see u know nothing about the topic and your going on and on about it so there is one thing mate read about Palestine 1945 till now. and if yu say it was only holy israel then how did the british troops Occupied Palestine in 1917 then answer that lil kid!!!!!

[alalim111]

why the hell did u have to bing religioins in this topic? well let me tell u mate i am as a muslim i am not allowed to swear or disreaspect ay religion and as u talked about the holy bible just to let you know mate i have seen 12 different bibles but i only seen one quran and in most of the bibles on the cover from the inside it has the map and it says PALESTINE. ys i am a muslim but i read about most of the religions mate so shut the fuck up and have respect and as i told u read about Palestine

[alalim111]

Is It then you clearly dont know nothing about the history and about 1948 you fucking asswhole before you reply to anone you should read about the topic then answer or dont answer at all so shut the fuck up, and i think yu saw how they guy in DC made the israeli look stupid and how do u think there are that many palestinians in palestine then? what did we come and try to take over? lol read about palestine in 1948 fucker

[canaan1967]

Norman Finelstein would eat the Israeli Raanan Gissin alive if he was present in this debate.

[GusBariga]

fuck all that, there is no peace and (not trying to be pessimistic) but there will neva be peace. its a cirkel and both sides have to give a little in order to achief anything. its not about blaming this group or that group. that doesnt lead anywhere.

[DarknessMadeFlesh]

lol omg that was hilarious how peter's guests went at it and even after going for a short break. Peter Lavelle is the best and great show. Crosstalk show #1!!

[themen234]

rabin, peres and barak Were ready to return to the '67 lines, they said so openly.

What did we get? peace? Hell no, we got bombers blow themselves up with one goal to kill as many civilian,s from year 93-99. Was a small pause and then Barak was willing to give all 67 areas, so we got intifada. to say that israel did not want peace, joke, twist of reality!! The saddest thing is that you (citizens of the world) believe in that.

[aalghusa]

It's kinda funny how pathetic the Israelis sound when someone besides CNN or FOX actually questions them on their actions.... your time is coming and you know it bitches!

[alalim111]

what the fuck is that israeli talking about its our land you fucking dickhead

[greenguard2468]

Jews are troublesome

[saintkatanalegacy]

just more reason to watch x talk :D

[Valdinsh]

The guy in Washington makes a good point in the end. Israel does not give account to anyone regarding what happened in Gaza. And the other point he makes clear = while there will be no international pressure on Israel it won't admit its wrongdoings and won't be put on trial. End of the line.

I agree with some people here who mentioned that Russia should be the (so to say) new mediator to settle this dispute and gain global appreciation for that. A great chance to do so.

[KhaledCanada08]

And why do you think Arabs are not asking Russia to get deeply involved in resolving such eternally dysfunctional conflict? Arabs know Russia quite well and the history/reputation of Russians in middle east is very unreliable by standard measures (there are plenty of examples). Until today, 95% of the cards of this game are controlled by USA. Future however, may tender extraordinary and novel approaches to solve this problem once and for all.

[Valdinsh]

For the major part I know the history and how it evolved in middle mist and how it has been with Russia.

Of course this is a serious topic. Just to support your statement that future will bring some consensus on the table of discussion and this long lasting dispute will see some ends to human suffrage in the region.

[Valdinsh]

Making a point - Jerusalem NEVER was (officially considered) a Jewish capital. Yes, there are some archeological evidence of King David that he ruled there but it is not officially confirmed.

And this wishful talking of Palestinians willing to ''slice it up in peaces'' is the most ridiculous idea I have ever heard. For the record - Palestine is the one saying that lets keep unity, let the Christian, Muslim and Jewish share the holy place where to hold prayers. Lets live in peace.

[themen234]

Sorry to tell you, but you're the example that people around the world have no idea what is happening between Israel and the Arabs.

Note that in Jerusalem in the holy areas is general control of the Jordanian police, anyone who wants to can pray there, Muslims, Christians, Jews. As long as they do not throw stones and attacks Israel.

Do you think if the Palestinians will be there will be freedom of religion? One of the best jokes I've heard.

You been so detached from reality. what a joke.

[Valdinsh]

Sadly it seems that you are the one showing the bad example to people. First of all - I have friends who live in Palestine and I have talked with them and I have done a lot of research to make sure of what I am saying. I don't know about Jordanian police there and stone throwing but I see and hear and know what Israeli military is doing there so that's enough evidence to express convictions towards Israel.

Did I say something about freedom of religion? Did I say something that Israelis should

[Valdinsh]

move out of the region and give it back to Palestinians?

You must then read more carefully.

I mentioned that Palestinian people are the ones resisting this oppression and violence and expressing their will to maintain peace in the region. I support the idea that the region must be ruled by both parties friendly and non-violently. At this point it is the other way around.

[IsraelDenialOfDenial]

Every single Israel spokesman they have used are enraged in every interview , quick to take offense and quick to give it, sure that no one understands them and contempt for all humans except jews themselves ,very immature even child like in the way they all did interviews , its a sad thing to watch , these interviews are destroying the jews , the only thing that makes sense is they are doing it on purpose . i don,t get it .

[IsraelDenialOfDenial]

Israel has lost all support world wide , got to love justice , the whole world it saying Israel is insane , there is no fixing that , the more they attack Gaza the more people wake up , all the spin Israel tries ends up backfiring because the world is sick of it , convict Israel of war crimes so the world can move on

[troglodyte3344]

Human beings are to blame for the conflict in the middle east.

[0bodobod0]

lol european nations go to war in WWII...and the outcome is taking palestine land and giving it to jews? Yeah, nothing strange going on here.

[maximatort]

Why they can't create palestine state ?

and thru peace process there will be to states israel and palestine.

[eternalduty]

I can't wait when the world finally finds out how these evil zionist have tried to destroy the world in every way possible.

[remfrancis]

thank you so much Peter, for the entertainment, and I take back my earlier objections to you interrupting people. You need to ;-)

Where the fault lies in this dispute became quite obvious in this RT exchange. All we have to do now is wait for Israel to foolishly bomb Iran. Only then will the world UN community have sufficient reason to turn the Jews out of their ghetto in the Middle East, and let the Arabs rebuild their lives.

[redsnowsoldier]

WOW

intense

[inachu]

as long as there is the cult of neoconservatives then its time for us THE WORLD to question our support of ANY neoconservative motives be they domestic or when dealing with the world at large and Israel.

[batflies]

I am always for the underdog, peace.

[guydecervens]

Those Israelis are just pure evil.

[2minstral]

I am fed up with Israeli government bull. I want a war crimes trial conducted, and if the US, Britain, or France vote against or veto the General assy request I move to abolish the UN as it stands.

I would call on Russia and China to lead a radical change for the UN in which all security council members including the permanent 5, be elected positions. If this is not agreed to, then I call for the abolishment of the UN under the principals that NOT all nations come to the table as equals.

[2minstral]

Its time to start over and Russia would gain the complete respect of 97% of ALL nations for doing so. This is Russias chance to take the lead.

[KingdomOfWarriors]

dajjal satan will not return until jews state complete according to holy book of quran so they working on it to complete the state?

[InMooseWeTrust]

These are people who have been killing each other for thousands of years. What makes you think they'll stop now? The best thing you can do is stop helping both sides and let them slaughter each other like the heartless savages they are.

[14842]

wtf whahaha Give them a hammer so they can hit eachother on the head :xD

[MrSpieldose]

That Israeli dude sounds so annoying.

[sebsy15]

Good debate..