Skateboarding is Not a Crime

[thatsmyrail]

Another thing is, America likes the marketing aspect of skateboarding. If they wear hats & shirts covered with brand logo's in order for tweens to go out and buy stuff. Venues like X games and Dew tour are good examples of this. The sport in its essence, which is hitting up street obstacles is shunned and criminalized.

[migcheeseburger]

simple solutuion, just put a sign that says skate on your own risk :)

[DIDHVN]

i think the problem is not that the people can be hurt when they ride theyr boards. i think the problem is that skateboarding is a probably dangerouse but free way of life. and thats it was the U.S. fear....

[jsupra]

thelogicjunkie for president!

[thatsmyrail]

I don't know what's the problem either. Here in Europe you can skate almost anywhere, and people see it like it is, a wooden toy with wheels under it. Okay, people would be pissed off if you'd fuck up the tiles on their stairs etc but nobody gives a crap when you skate in public. And there isn't something like a general consensus about skateboarding and criminality being linked to each other like in the US.

[TheLogicJunkie]

Americans put up with more and ever more misery because we are raised from birth with the indoctrination that this is, by far, the best country on the face of the earth with the best quality of life. And so we stay here because we're told that we're really happy here -- can you believe that? We're so programmed with this image in our heads that we're not able to notice or make sense of all our unhappiness. That's sick.

[guitarprolv]

@TheLogicJunkie Everything you have to say on nearly every subject is genius man. You need a tv show or a podium or something that helps clean up the shit that has become humanity. Make some more videos. This shit is gold.

[TheLogicJunkie]

@guitarprolv Thanks...

[TheAwakian]

It's almost amazing to me how most of my neighbours seem to have this gigantic problem with kids of 8 to 18 years skateboarding outside at early fall when there's practically nothing left to do. You either have two choices -- go home and stare at a computer screen or go outside and actually do something creative. At the same time these so called 'grown-ups' who think they know everything about life complain about the lack of fresh air kids get each day. It's a freaking joke.

[TheLogicJunkie]

Yeah, I agree completely -- there are no true adults anymore. The so-called "grown-ups" are much more immature and mindless than the younger generation.

This has become a captainless world, and no one is at the wheel of maturity.

[skaterz11]

dude i love you

[the4leggedparrots]

SKATEBOARDING IS NOT A CRIME!!!!!!

[DJSwafford92]

you remind me of zach galifianakis alittle bit, and i wish that businesses and all other skate spots have signs that say skate at your own risk, that would make more sense to me

[Animatrix2008]

The idea that riding around on a conveyence is a crime is just stupid. The public sucks.

[sebway23]

I understand people not wanting skaters skating all over their church, or if they are getting in the way... but just to get around? who cares? let them go in the bike lane [if wherever you live even has bike lanes]

[thexskating]

im a skater and agree 100%

[themmurraydrivekids]

BMX FOR LIFE!!

[jkulesha]

skateboarding is illegal in alot of places for health insurance issues, property maintenance, so their obstacles are not destroyed by grinding/waxing, annoyance, you name it, i skate and am tempted to go do like I saw a video on youtube, and take a masonry block and smooth out this awesom ledge in front of this gas station, and spray it with clear laquer and wax it, but its on a main road and I'd prolly get arrested for destroying property, thats why I don't do it, cuz It's not my property

[OfnirNine]

we just want to skate!!!!! peacefully! we just want to have fun!!! so what if we risk our lives doing so?! dude in basketball, my cuz broke an arm... in tennis, i got hit on the head! in soccer i got hit on the nuts! while i was biking, i fell and got blood all over my arm and there's no as in NONE even one single law againt those sport!! thats unfair!!! D=<

[jahoraceepps]

your awesome dude, thanks for your words :D people dont understand its not about getting hurt. . . you understand thank man, your standing up for real skater, we dont sue we skate! we break and get up! :) you give us hope!!

[inuynikshaw]

i agree with u 100%

[samten10a]

It depends on how many people were hurt by skateboarders and rollerblades. It was it was legal here 5 years ago here that laws put in place. It was because of two broken hips of people that were ran into by skateboarders and that fix it for all. Plus the constant problem of skateboarders/rollerblades bad attitude and damage they caused with the private property did not help their cause.

[TheLogicJunkie]

Well, I understand that -- skateboarders are not necessarily purely innocent little choir boys or anything. But it just kills me that there aren't more places for people to skateboard and just get some fresh air and sunshine... too many people just want to piss and moan wantonly.

[sk8rs0nunlimitedlife]

@samten10a alright im a skater so im already siding on skaters side (so sorry) but u say the skaters ran into them, when ever i see soemone by the place im skateing i wait until they move thats kinda my break timee so yeah and i always notice my friends started doing it and weve never done anyhting to anyone so i just think if someone is ganna be making a law against skateboarders they should try skateboardig

[TheB0ulevardz]

@samten10a rollerbladers need to stay in their house fuck rollerbladers! skate 4 life!

[knine1195678]

skateboarding:

putting yourself in danger

putting other ppl in danger

risking your life

vandalism

wht the fuck am i saying?! i skate every day

[TheRadioAteMyTV]

Because when you take away skating, skateboarding, bicycling, soccer, and baseball at parks,(like in LA and Burbank) then folks that is an unused cemetery not a park! Skateboarding ROCKS!

[TheRadioAteMyTV]

Skateboarding is AWESOME! It is relaxing, soothing, and can really take away the blues like nothing else I have ever done. I am not fat, and I am now not so young, but I still ride when I can. However, I do not grind and ruin other people's property, and nor should anyone else. And @thelogicjunkie is right, NO SEWING!!!!!!! Skate at your own RISK! and love every freakin' minute of it. No skating at parks, then why have parks? What, just to "park" large butts?

[rkuautli]

who the fuck is this guy!

[babysealbucket]

i totally agree. but along with that i think that the citys, or the board for the cities should atleast put a public skating place within a reasonable distance to skate. maybe twords the town square? so they can keep us off the streets more often then not. and another thing is in my school of course im not allowed to bring a skate board anywhere near the school as its a weapon. but then people can carry tennis rackets through the school even though we dont have a tennis sport for the school.

[babysealbucket]

just like skateboarding but i guess its okay to carry something a tennis racket? i dont know. thats all i have to say

[Oahuskater19]

I wasnt even popin ollies or grinding on rails

[TheLogicJunkie]

Society runs on the conceptual model of a motherboard, where everything has to have a proper little place at all times, just like how electrons move in currents through tracer lines and components on and off a computer motherboard.

And too many people are just terrified of anything that doesn't conform to that petty little model, such as a guy on a skateboard, because they don't know how to mentally classify a skateboard, like confused robots.

That's how insane most people really are.

[Oahuskater19]

i got stoped from the cops for going freaken 2 miles per hour behind all the other people. I was using the sidewalk for transportation.

[fullermt0705]

Very true my friend. Im only 14 and i've been exposed to the police, angry pedestrians and what not, all do to the fact that i skateboard! And like you mentioned about graffiti and vandalism, i think those are completely and utterly disrespectful. There's no way to discribe why skateboarders do that! Im glad that someone, such as yourself, understands that skateboarding can cause no harm to an object or a person or anything! Thank you sir!

[TheLogicJunkie]

You're absolutely welcome.

[cubimuffin]

im exactly like you .....14 and the cops thinks were taggers that like braking stuff and disrespecting everybody because we have a skateboard!

[TheLogicJunkie]

Because I've come to understand just how shallow and childish most "grown-ups" are, I'm going to say that perhaps they might privately resent you because you have flat stomachs and hair on your head, while they have beer guts and hair loss.

But that's just a guess.

[fullermt0705]

Yes! I know! I swear. . . I would run for president just to make every place in America, skateable! Haha!

[skatepunkzero]

I hate how everyone considers skateboarding is a crime, I hate how kids cant skate in my school, but kids can smoke pot and a drink(on campus too).

[TheLogicJunkie]

I'd say it's because the act of skateboarding is visible to the naked eye and can much more easily be heard, whereas smoking pot and drinking isn't, necessarily -- it's considerably easier to contain those activities in a somewhat concealed location, and they emit no sound.

...What the senses can't detect, the mind cannot recognize as even existing.

[DeadEndFoShizzle]

i spent a week down in rhode island with my friends and my friend was carrying a bunch of stuff tools camera ect and he dropped his board so instead of stopping and picking it up he decided to ride it the last 10 feet to the bus stop...he got a 100$ ticket and his board taken away...

[TheLogicJunkie]

Yep. Welcome to the United Sadists of America.

...And then people have the nerve to pretend to not understand why there are so many petty acts of cruelty happening in this country, and in every other country that America manages to "sadistify". Plain and simple, it's the age of childish cruelty.

[1studentoftruth]

I meant, "Capitalism is doing you no better."

[1studentoftruth]

Hey logic junkie, are you a socialist? and if not, then why not?

[TheLogicJunkie]

I'm a logicist. And if that dictates that, under certain circumstances, I take a socialist stance, then so be it.

[1studentoftruth]

So in other words, yes. You are not alone.

[TheLogicJunkie]

Conditionally, yes. But there are conditions and circumstances whereby I regard socialism's dictates as evil.

[1studentoftruth]

Like in the conditions and circumstances in the novel "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand?

Capitialism is no doing you know better, as evidenced by your videos.

Oh well. peace.

[TheLogicJunkie]

Well, you do have a point there. But that's also because this society doesn't operate around actual capitalism -- if indeed actual capitalism is ever really possible, as government treasuries always seem to mint the money, even after a crypto-private dynastic corporate like the Federal Reserve hijacks and owns the nation's treasury and entire financial system.

Our "capitalism" is really what I call "dynastic nepotism", in which money percolates weakly outward from clique power families.

[ppasdfjkl]

SKATEBOARDING IS NOT A CRIME! i can understand if 'skaters' are smoking weed or spray painting everything, but if they are just skating then there should be no problem. Some of us have a choice with our lives that include getting into drugs/gangs or we have to find something that will keep us out of that. if your live in a bad neigbourhood(sorry for spelling) and those are your options, then of course you can't get mad at them. So just ask yourself if you would rather have a gang or skaters by.

[TheLogicJunkie]

Exactly.

[potts339]

SKATEBOARDING IS NOT A CRIME and if you think other wise FUCK YOU

[hunterofall]

Skateboarding in nice places is against the rules because, over time, boards CAN ruin the surface of a bench or anything else in a park....They have Skateparks for a reason....you don't have one? I'm sorry for you, but PLEASE don't go to a church, a 7/11, Mobil or whatever to do it...

no, I don't have anything against boarders OR skaters...but, i do have a problem with stupid people boarding/skating in places they SHOULDN'T

[ticknor5]

your wrong

[hunterofall]

what am I wrong about? be more specific please

[1zalex1]

I swear this guy should be up there with Socrates. Whether he's correct or not, he should. The unfortunate thing about our society is that we've lost our value in philosophy and logic, and turned those values into sports and censorship. We (as a generalization) have forgotten America in order to be so-called "secure". Freedom over living in a panic box people. Never forget our fading Democracy.

[TheLogicJunkie]

Gawrsh.

[watchingurvidz]

i skate myself, and this is a pretty valid point.

personally i dont spray paint, do graffiti or anything.

and i doubt a skateboarder would even think about sueing anybody xD - personally i wouldnt...and i dont think many of my 'skater' friends would either...

but still...i enjoyed your video :)

[toadenk]

the wii fit told me i'm 30 pounds over wight

[TheLogicJunkie]

Wii "fit" also has you swinging at things that you're supposed to be making physical contact with, but instead there's nothing there and you end up hyperextending your joints.

I'm not a big fan of the Wii "fit".

[Donkeyhawk]

Armageddon is upon us I can only hope, only thing that makes me feel bad, is that my little brother and the children have to witness it live as it crumbles before us....................... I need to get soem fuckin weed, I am bout ready to fuckin kill someone.

[Donkeyhawk]

Governments of the world need to undertand what they have helped create. that my generation, so called "generation Y", Y stands for "you owe me" we really DO feel the world owes us soemthing for having us born into this pathetic hopeless materialistic existence, and I think your generation feels pretty damn close also. so they got what they want, an ultra violent generation of loose cannons who are understimulated with love and affection and overstimulated with drugs and mass media hysteria.

[Donkeyhawk]

I have always preached and practiced mass civil disobdience. they say you cant smoke weed and walk around with a gun, FUCK THAT smoke weed and walk around with a gun, if EVERYONE did it , there would be less crime and less peopel in jail, becaise if everyone did what they pleased within "logical" reason they couldn't throw EVERYone in jail. MASS CIVIL DISOBDIENCE! I don't wanna grow up I'm a toys r us kid. fuck how they feel about it. Our freedom stops at the end of soemone elses nose

[Donkeyhawk]

I'm from Florida too. cool. been through North Carolina many times driving up to NY and NJ . seems like a nice state and the people are polite and shit. And cigarettes are pretty cheap too. Anyway, speaking of corruption, I have decided that I hate both liberals and conservatives for different reasons, and America is pretty high up there as far as corruption goes. If people would stop being afraid of the police, afraid of being put in jail for a few days, afraid of being caused mild discomfort.

[DigitalCoins]

liked when ya said "if this is adulthood, then it's overrated" lol

[melapis2]

Nearly everything has been criminalized. Stopping and smelling the roses is now called loitering. Whatever, let the 'gooftards' have fun face planting. I agree, right now adulthood is overrated and too many of them are kicking cats. Your euphemisms were fun and on point. Oh, video games have taken the place of outdoor activities, and that's just dandy for those practicing social control.

[JoeSteppy]

Where in Nc are you from?

EAST COAST!

[TheLogicJunkie]

Florida and North Carolina!

[sportsbettingman]

Another comment...

I can only base things on what I know...and this I know.

I went to the same elementary school as my two boys are going to now. Back in my day, there was plenty of bully action and fighting, but it all worked itself out, and everyone learned early on that there are all types of people.

Now they don't even have much of recess, you can't run, no fighting, and tons of teachers watching the yard like a prison. No freedom. No growth.

~Lance

[MadBadVoodo]

Five Stars!!

[sportsbettingman]

A few comments...

We have a 2+ mile dike with a walking trail, and these guys on Tour De France bicycles go flying by within inches of folks at like 15+ mph. They post signs, but the jerks just keep riding fast.

Would the allure of skateboarding be the same without the crime element? :-)

Where I live they have removed the drive in theatre, two bowling alleys, and now the Bay Meadows horse racing track in the last 10 years...they are squeezing our youth indoors!

~Lance

[hindusarise]

lol@4:30 not orderly, not corporate. I think it's true that if you treat someone like a criminal for being theirself, they will rebel and start acting like a criminal.

[muddieair]

what what what someone who thinks logically in government barump barump shinanigans

[wizardofohm]

While I agree full heartedly that anti skateboarding laws are implemented to oppress a subculture that is deamed a threat to the status quo, their justification is pretty solid. While it is minimal, skateboarding is aesthetically damaging to public and or private property. I think this reasoning is purely superficial, and was an afterthought to their true intentions, but that is irrelevent. Changing the laws means negating this angle, which I think is too difficult.

[TheLogicJunkie]

Well, I personally haven't really noticed any aesthetic damage to property from skateboarding, but that's not to say there isn't...

[ANGLEBOOT]

Well I have, as much as costing $5000 in repairs due to a nephew living with me last years. And after being told not to be boarding where he was at. more than once. after he did, I took it to the nears tree and broke it in half and told if he could ride it now, then go ahead.

He sold the trucks then bought a bike.

[wizardofohm]

That just shows how minimal it is (grinding on rails can tarnish metal, etc..) but it's the defence they use, I'm just saying it is a harder arguement than just arguing against their true intentions. :)

[cruces2317]

That's great, I mentioned smart in my comment and then misspelled too.

[cruces2317]

Those who should run for office are much to smart to run for office.

[ANGLEBOOT]

Look I take my grandkids to parks. parks with those signs that warn of no skateboards. And the kids on them know how to read. When one one the punk kids that refuse to do as the sign says.rams into my grandkid, I will treat as they attack them.

My grandkids are worth going to jail over. But when I'm done whooping the kids ass, he won't beable to sit down for some time. He'll also read the signs.

[TheLogicJunkie]

...But the problem there is not skateboarding per se, but thoughtless inconsideration, applied to skateboarding.

Anyone who attempts to skateboard in an area swarming with people -- much less little children -- is a thoughtless (and possibly even malicious) asshole.  It seems reasonable to go after people like that.

But in many of these cases, skateboarders are doing their thing away from any crowds or people in general, and they're still being harrassed as "criminals", and I object to that.

[ZacksTrippinOut]

I couldn't agree more.

[jpbroadwater]

Very well thought out

[zeitgeisthero]

responsible skateboarding should not be a crime !

[thrivetube]

i love you. i wanna hug it out, you want to hug it out? expect a video response from me soon. You should run for congress. i know 1,000 people that would vote for you.

[ZacksTrippinOut]

Something tells me that he wouldn't be the type to hold any political office.

[TheLogicJunkie]

Yeah, I couldn't be a human pinata like that. I could lead, but not through official channels.

[ZacksTrippinOut]

By the way, I love your videos. Keep it up!

[TheLogicJunkie]

Thanks!