I am from germany. In the media was a bad case mentioned where 4 young guys went to punch a worker in a subway. They hit the worker so hard, that he remained a long time in the coma.
When I heard this I wished Bozepe was there for help.....
"I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN PRACTISE WITH SOME MMA FIGHTERS..."
...that would be forbidden there. they have their cage, their time, their rules. wt is for fighting, really fast and may be until death. you should know that : )
I prefer the 70 30 foot positioning, its just wing chun stance then you turn. its like a boxer stance except your not turned from them you still face them with your upper body
Ive practice Muay Thai for many years now, And I am happy with my style of combat.
But I also think Emin Boztepe is an Excellent Instructor. I am very interested in studying Wing Chun. Lots of People say Muay Thai Wing Chun mix does not work I disagree. I think Wing Chun & Muay Thai Combined what a dangerouse combination. So many weapons.
@777ELDEMONIO well i did muay thai for 2 years and i've switched to wc and been doin it for 3 months and i think lots of people are right..muay thai uses theory of roundness for punches and kicks while wc goes in a straight hitting fashion...
even the stances are too different from one another.U cannot mix muay thai with wing chun IMO u gotta use and stick to one during a fight
@musclepieformybaby I disagree I like using chain punching knees elbow jab cross & thai kick I use this combination a lot it works well for me. Ive trained Muay Thai 15 years & only been doing Wing Chun for 12 months total beginner in Wing Chun . I also use Wing Chuns Front heel Kick in combination with my low Thai Kicks.
@777ELDEMONIO well u see after chain punch there is an elbow follow up in wing chun but if u are leaning back and trying an elbow jab or a cross it is a mistake in my opinion.Switching to muay thai techs u mentioned before after a chain punch means giving up the base stance + follow up stance in wing chun.
Also there is something like an inside low thai kick in my wc system (IKWTS) but going out with a normal thai kick is strictly forbidden.
@musclepieformybaby I dont follow the wing chun stance strictly when I mix Wing Chun with Muay Thai Kicks. Yes Muay Thai has a different way of striking and I use Wing Chun Techniques only if they compliment Muay Thai and what works for me personally might not work for everybody.
If everyone here hate WT and love MMA just dont watch?! all these MMA guys in the comments of WT vids. MMA is good WT is good at the end the fighter make the difference. So stop these hatecomments and watch your favoritvideos.. I watcht much MMA videos but i NOT left any hater comments
Tie a rope to a door knob, leave a little slack.. so it loosely hangs there while holding the other end with your hand. Turn your body and pull (jerk) the rope and loosen again. The door should violently slam. EXPLOSIVE POWER. That is wing chun. It's not all the techniques and stuff but the concept behind it. If you train explosive power every day, you will be a very formidable fighter. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Life is awesome, live it well.
Schulleee 'real Wing Chun'? Wing Chun fighters are NOT bannned from competition, it is just the vast majority of them are rubbish fighters. In early UFC's there were hardly any rules - how many Wing Chun people did you see rushing to win the title and money? Wing Chun or WT is one dimensional & predictable - you fight chin up chain punching with silly footwork, any MMA person will hurt you in the cage or street. Name who you think is good or doing 'real' Wing Chun?
It is obvious any good MMA fighter would wipe the floor with Boztepe in a real fight! MMA fighters train with much better people than he has around him / train much harder / fight often against people trying to hurt them / will use lethal techniques in real fight not just MMA as you see in UFC / many MMA fighters have fought for real many times on the street. Chin up, silly footwork, deadly chain punches etc try it in fight with good MMA person, you will lose badly!
@xXTheGameKlngXx beat up some 50 year old fart? Would be as bad as beating up William Cheung when Boztepe did it. Bas Rutten challenged Emin face to face at his LA HQ, Emin shat his pants! Blumming students challenged him at seminar in Holland, Emin shat his pants! There have been others & everytime Emin shat his pants (sometimes literally & had to change them). He beat Cheung or ambushed him, when he is challenmged he refuses them all! Tough guy - NOT!
@CloudsBeyond im not here to mess with you xD just try against him ;) if i see that you win i will fall on my knees in front of you, but you have to win ;)
@xXTheGameKlngXx I've seen him in person few times & trained with him, as a fighter he is NOTHING in the world of martial arts especially MMA people, in WT or Wing Chun sure he is very good at it. As for challenging him, Emin is a businessman & not stupid, he will NOT accept a real challenge; he knows there are many that could easily beat him in a fight & he is well aware a loss destroys his tough man best fighter image (just as it did to Cheung).Those who offered him a challenge, he refuses!
@xXTheGameKlngXx (see my other posts) as for you saying ''if i see that you win i will fall on my knees in front of you'', you are a disgusting pervert! You offer me a Blow Job if I can beat Emin Boztepe in a fight, wth!!! You have issues I think. Just for the record, I am certainly not gay. You should be ashamed to say such things, you pervert.
Ching Chong Wing Tsun kung fu is the deadliest fighting art ever! If you master Ching Chong Chi power you will be able to kill anyone without even touching them.
@mmagreat Yes,if your opponent don`t move till you find the right point ! I life in a very dangerous scene and my enemies are not so simple to touch like a partner in a demonstrate! Rather trust in LT-System,EBMAS or AK 47!
there is a big difference between WC wing chun and WT wing tsun. do a little research. I took WT wing tsun here in Kentucky. people from different disciplines came in challenging us all the time. I witnessed high ranking black belts from judo, karate, and even Shoalin come into our shop and get tossed around like they didnt know their right foot from the left one. The funny thing is, when these people come in, our Sijo sent the level 6 students to take care of them. Sifu Boztepe was there once.
@dragonmist58 Yep, was a bad school. We did only 30 minutes of Wing Chun in a 1.5 hour class. Nonetheless, I wouldn't be so sure that Wing Chun is the only pure 100% real and best ever perfect martial art. I was totally blind too in the beginning, thought it was the best ever. But it all depends on lots of other factors, like how hard you train, how dedicated you are etc etc. I don't think Wing Chun covers everything. A good boxer for instance can be a real threat.
@dragonmist58 MMA can be the best defence there is, because everything is allowed when it works. This may also include Wing Chun techniques. If you want to really fight, take a look at the best: Bas Rutten, Fedor Emilianenko, Mark Kerr. They don't do Wing Chun, because Wing Chun is limited in certain aspects. Like the stance, kicks, grappling, proper punching etc. I loved Wing Chun, but my school seemed more like a cult, and some techniques seem too constructed for real life situations.
@SimulacronX Look at them where??In a ring with rules,no surprise factor,7 hours aday train,5-6 years life,Big money and gumble,taking medicine to feel less pain,no weapons.....Great athletes but real?As i believe reality is relative!!
@dlvt79 I don't know if I got what you say exactly, but I am sure MMA is real fighting (mix the arts!). Do you know Bas Rutten? I trust him. Or do you know Emilianenko? Those guys need to posess the best, working techniques at such a level. No bullshido allowed here. And they don't do 100% Wing Chun at all. Because depending on the situation, boxing, kickinig, grappling etc. is not all covered by Wing Chun. In WC, lots of things seem choreographed, constructed.
@dlvt79 I mean those guys, at this level, just need techniques that cover everything, and work. And because of that, they don't do 100% Wing Chun (in fact they don't use much WC at all). Lot's of things in Wing Chun seem choreographes, constructed, too complicated to execute in real fights. I know, because I did it myself, and I was totally believing Wing Chun is the best ever 100% self-defense system, because it is promoted as such. But take a good boxer... he alone is areal threat. Mix it...
@dlvt79 For instance, I think Chi Sao ("sticking hands") is a nice game, but real waste of time in Wing Chun classes. It is good for a little quarrel in a bar, if you ever get to master it after 5-10 years of practice. It is far more effective to train boxing techniques, to work on your cardio and strength etc. In some Wing Chun schools, they give you Chi Sao all the time, they stretch the classes to make money. Waste of time. At least at my school, and I had to quit. Not into meditation etc.
@SimulacronX In some points i agree.It is truth that too much time is spended in tsi sao.Normal that time sould be the 1/3 of the time,but many times a week if possible.It is not a train that need hours but time.U actually reprogramm your human body behavior and unfortunately that doesnt happen soon.That is why many people have wrong opinion and their sifus should tell the truth.Also there are few of practikers that can use shi sao in real fight.
@SimulacronX That is a second truth.Most sifu when they fight real they become stief and so their art doenst work.But chi sao is for sure the state of the art.It is the moment of 0,009 of sec that u need chi sao by touching the enemy and only that moment.Then u need all the others.(footstep.chain punches...)If u want to test the sifu he should ask u to make whatever attack u like.That told me mine when i first went at shool and he hit me with respect just to see.
@SimulacronX Even now after 7 years he keeps training me without tell me how to attack him.I do box,kicks,try to wrestle..Anyway u probably got bored of me.Find a good shool and i am sure if u are patient that u ll change your mind.If not no problem again.A last comment about boxing.Great sport but have u ever tried kick first a boxer before get near??Do it proper and u ll be surprised.Whatever u do keep training!!!Peace
@dlvt79 Interesting comment. I am still kind of fascinated by Wing Chun, but I will stay open-minded for other arts as well. It is great you still do it after 7 years. I just wanted to find a good teacher. Thanks, you keep it up too, peace & respect, S.
As much as i know when emin hit w.chang he was controlled by kernspecht.He was the main responsible and emin was just a soldier.Kernpecht would never risk loose.So he sent emin.If emin has lost he would say emin was just a student,if he won he would sy that his w.t. was better.Maybe i am wrong but this is classical strategy of "grand" masters.
i feel emin is a good fighter and i respect his wc but i'm still disapointed with how he took it on his own to disrespect William cheug that was very bad for wc.
Dude, Cheung had it coming. In a big way. It was Cheung who issued an open challenge to beat anyone, anywhere, anytime, & it was Cheung who was talking mad amounts of shit about how awesome he was, how he was the One True Master, how everyone sucked except form him, etc., etc.
Your ,you've gone from a pro "mma" argument that in your mind is superior to WC,or anything outside of your limited scope to that of weapons,"do you own a bazooka"and using that argument from a stance of weakness
Make up your mind,or,better yet,wake up your mind and stop with the childish tap-out crusade.Emin has some good skills,like any man,he also has his weakness,I've sparred with him,have you?I also don't put him on a pedestal.I've stated the kind of ppl I train with,have you?
and this ground argument is getting really old, since mma fighters are also fighting standing up. Ever asked yourself, why don't you see those shitty rabbit punches in the cage? cause they DON'T WORK. A boxer would easily pick angle and break his jaw with a powerful hook.
And sifu asshole Emin, built his whole image on a claim that wc is superior FIGHTING technique, not a survival guide. If you don't believe me watch a video him claiming he can easily beat kickboxers and wrestlers-it's on youtube.
Of course i'm comparing , cause it's the only thing worth comparing. Do you see emin teaching how to survive a nuclear holocaust? No he's teaching fighting fucking principles. what would you do in a normal self defense situation, where some drunken guy swings at you? Break his neck and cut his balls? Give me a break...
@makkhoBrazil "Do you see emin teaching how to survive a nuclear holocaust".Your taking it to the extreme,which shows a closed mind.Besides,I had my NBC training from others."he's teaching fighting principles",good for him,you're defending sport,does your training teach you what you limits are within the street (not cage)law? You're just as blind as the people who went into the cage with no ground skills.I'll give you a break,don't expect to get one in a real life fight,there are none
@OakIslandBandit yeah I agree. although I'm pretty sure you just got trolled by a 13 yr old LOL. But yeah Biu Jii and Chum Kiu = go for eyes and throat. Fight however you want so you can win. especially if outnumbered you HAVE to go for easy vital targets, and quickly.
@makkho I'm aware what Emin built his whole image on,very close to what the Gracies did.In real life situations,egos fly out the door,including his with yours.I've been down on the ground in a life and death situation,more damage was done to me from my attacker's girlfriend with her high heel shoe than he did,that was just 1 case.There's NO such thing as a "normal self defense situation",flush your head gear out son,this is not about tap outs,this is about survival,a mindset you lack
You sound paranoic. Where the fuck do you come from to be so worried about your safety? You live in a war zone with hundreds of terrorists planning on kidnapping your daughter? do you own a bazooka or something? MMA is hands down better for real life fighting than WC. Why do you think wc fighter is better at kicking your balls and gouging your eyes, than mma fighter? Does it require special training?
@makkho Yes,I live in a war zone.Your state of mind would be "paranoic",which would shut your body down.Situational awareness is a different state of mind than the word your looking for,I think in your simple mind you mean paranoid.Your attempts at sarcasm about 100 terrorists is very weak,the safety of my daughter would be more in question at the university in São Paulo than here.
I don't bash your cage sport,your job is to insult other systems
"get real about multiple opponents: saying that ANY art would prevent you from being beaten,no certain "art" will prevent anything.Your UFC/MMA proves my point.Is your version of "mma" what you see in the sport cage?? The REAL MMA of today involves H2H,firearms and situational awareness on how to escape or destroy multiple opponents,anything else is nothing but sport.Your just as guilty of weapon limitations that you accuse these people of.I'd welcome YOU,the "mma" representive to come get some
@OakIslandBandit Ok. You seem to be deliberately missing my point. I'm just saying ( and is it really so difficult to understand) that on the street mma guy would SIMPLY TRY NOT TO GET TO THE GROUND. and standing up he would fight better than wc guy. period. And i don't talk about situational awareness or firearms bc here. we're comparing wc and mma from the fighting technical standpoint only, since Wc is also fighting technicque, right?
@makkho " bc here. we're comparing wc and mma from the fighting technical standpoint only",I'm not comparing,you are,WC works better for some people,cage fighting works for others,your missing my point,REAL MMA is not sport,what you call "mma" is just cage fighting with rules.The guys who train with people like "Progressive Combat Solutions" are the real MMA
@makkho Do you train and compete in "mma" cage fighting? If you do,then you have to spend a lot of time working out,the cage is for professional athletes.If you have a daughter,and your worried about her safety and you had just a small amount of time to train her what would you do? WC is great for this type of situation,you can expect results that work in a small time frame,and no need to train like a professional athlete,most ppl don't have that time
@makkho What kind of cage do you fight in? Thats the question,I like to watch cage fighters,I respect their dedication.But,I fight in a different cage,a cage where anything can and will happen and the only rule is do or die.I remember watching UFC1 and thinking that many ppl left ground training out because they trained for stand up for a reason,in the real world,the ground fight is a transition phase to get up.To see where I'm coming from,read Ken Goods article,"Which Cage do you Fight in?"
another thing is, that he first badmouthed UFC and the fighters, applied and then BACKED OUT of the fight with royce gracie at UFC. Google who royce gracie is in case you don't know ( read: the guy who CLAIMED his martial superior, STEPPED UP and actually fucking WON 3 UFC tournaments. Those are just facts. Make your own opinion out of it.
@makkho I've yet to hear the UFC and it's fighters not badmouth anyone who didn't go by their rules.But it's all very silly,anyone who uses martial arts to stay alive in the professional world of protection details,ect. or on the street are better off using this kind of Wing Chun.Learn what to do on the ground so you can get up.The whole argument is silly and pointless,stay off the ground,stay alive
The question what works best was answered 10000 times already - in the cage. And standard arguments that mma isn't effective because you can't go to the ground on the street is idiotic. any skilled mma fighter has better takedown defense than wc fighter. And please get real about multiple opponents: saying that ANY art would prevent you from being severly beaten by 3 people, just proves you've never been in a fight in your life.
@makkho "arguments that mma isn't effective",no arguments here,it is effective,Wing Chun was the mma of it's day,the costs were so much more back then."you can't go to the ground on the street is idiotic",If you're my back-up,and you choose to go to the ground with a threat,you're risking not only yours,but mine and other lifes of your team because we'd have to bail your ass out of a bind." mma better takedown defense than wc fighter",of course,thats what they train for,the ground.
A lot of commentators seem to miss the point of this clip. They go off on some other irrelevant tangent or dismiss the thing completely without addressing the details of what has been said...or like me, waste one's time criticizing the quality of criticism knowing full well that this is YouTube and not conducive to relevant, point by point criticism. As for me, the magnetic zone concept, preparation and circle step entry, range analysis, and wedge pressure ideas have been pretty useful.
I agree with your point about irrelevant comments BUT I think one of the points you failed to address is how Emin's red T-Shirt and black trousers are representative of the 'Le Rouge et le Noir' (The Red and the Black) novel by Stendhal.
I would like to see him recite this classic story whilst doing Chi Sau, until then I cannot accept him as a true Sifu of Wing Chun.
@makkho To me, MMA is the real deal, as everything working is allowed in it. BUT you don't know Boztepe. He is a very proficient fighter, a real athlete, one of the best Wing Chun guys in the world. You underestimate him. He teaches army and police forces in self-defense and fighting. Anyway it all depends on dedication, discipline, strength, technique, no matter what art you do. You should not offend masters like that, just shows your ignorance and lack of respect.
MMA stongest art is jiu jutsu boes that mean it would work on the street? Absolutely NO because u can't do that huggin around on concrete and in a street fight it's gonna be more than one person..if you try do that crap on the street the other guy is gonna kick ur head in simple as that.
These UFC fanboys have no life they dont train in anything but when it comes to youtube comments they're the champs.Monkey see Monkey do.
@GenghisKhanization In ANY martial arts video on YouTube, there will be ignorant people claiming that XX-style is better than YY-style. There's no such thing as the ultimate style, nor the ultimate fighter.
Concerning any ground-fighting style: It is extremely efficient in 1v1 situations, but if you are ever outnumbered, the last thing you want to do is go on the ground with 1 of them. At the same time you need to know how to counter take downs when outnumbered, or you'll get your ass kicked.
As Tangkapan says it's not what you trained thats going to automaticly make you win. If you don't have the mindset you will loose. I trained with Emin once, he takes up the room. ( Not just cause you know about him, but you can feel that he has the "IT". To make him a great fighter ), If you want to compare arts, sports or styles, wich is better... Train them all and make it your own way of fighting. kajukenbo trains you for multiple attackers, but it's only you who can defeat them.
@Pett1024 Hi m8 i see your coment and i have to say that this will be not a VS fight but a fight that both if them will be good.My opinion is that Sifu Emin will be better at footwork but for real i dont know,i just like em both very very much :D
Again, "step up" how, you lunatic? You faggots DON'T FIGHT. You cannot prove WC works because it is bunk. Boztepe is a fraud and chunners are cowards.
Chunners always have an excuse to turn down a fight. Boztepe did it himself when he was offered to fight in the UFC. WC is for pussies. No wonder you like it.
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Kommisar and Transatlantic, please chill out. You'll never agree on this subject so what's the point in trying to convince each other! Just agree to differ. Kommisar, I don't think Transatlantic is saying to train poorly, I think he's just saying that most people aren't trained to fight, so if you train to a reasonable level then you should have a marginal advantage in a fight. Mind you, I never tell anyone that I train because I've seen people who boast get knocked out by a lucky punch!
12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh. 13. Grabbing the clavicle. 14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent. 15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent. 16. Stomping a grounded opponent. 17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel. 18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck. 19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area. 20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent. 21. Spitting at an opponent. Thats wHat you cant do in mma,thats alot if you ask me!
1. Butting with the head. 2. Eye gouging of any kind. 3. Biting. 4. Hair pulling. 5. Fish hooking. 6. Groin attacks of any kind. 7. Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent. 8. Small joint manipulation. 9. Striking to the spine or the back of the head. 10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow. 11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
i gotta ask u sumtin if u are in a fight on a street against more dan 1 person and u try and put dem in an armbar d other fella is jus gonna start standin on ur head....however arm bars are great in mma which is a sport not on d street!
@ebmasdan92 I don't know why MMA people insist that it's effective in the street. No one will allow their friend to hit the flow without jumping in and becoming 2 or 3 against 1. MMA is tough, but there are lots of things that look tough but won't survive a real street fighting test (especially multi attack, which is, unfortunately, very frequent)
@jjhaywood so true or if u try n grapple on concrete someone with half a brain is jus goin 2 pick u up n smash ur head off the CONCRETE.....no mats 2 cusion ur head or body
@ebmasdan92 yeah. well, unfortunately 4 me, I've seen what u've described in an attack 3 months ago. Sad to c a man literally lose his eye because he wants to roll around on the floor. And it's sad really that so many ppl buy into hype and don't think critically. Ground skills are SUPER important. But MMA is not really mixed but a style specifically for ring fighting, very much resembling Pankration. There r schools that teach more practical application of ground defense than what I c in UFC.
@makkho why do all mma fans have to be so disrespectful to all other martial arts....and another thing if you are so enthusiastic about mma why dont you spend ur time training instead of comin on 2 wt vids talkin shit........and hey emin has done more than just wt muay thai he did for years but wt worked for him...i know people who have done other arts like muay thai but think wt works best for them ...but listen i love mma i love watching it its my fav sport :)
@ebmasdan92 but listen when i say wt worked better for them than muay thai i dont mean muay thai doesnt work....the art is only as gud as the fighter using it
some morons in here are so lame.. Emin in't this Emin isn't that.. You fools should challenge him & put your money where your mouth' s are. Emin isn't at all just show. he never lost a fight (real). all the time that MMA arguing. Of course MMA is good, but not too good on the streets , cause you never know what happens while youre on the ground. Plus A fight is never won by a stile but by a person. You can train whatever you want. if your a loser not even a gun can make you better.
@Tangkapan the only man who has won a fight against emin boztepe is sifu salih avci the inventor of anti ground combat he is the instructor for the german and turkish special forces , the other one is emins and salihs teacher keith r . kernspecht and top of them is dai sifu leung ting
K. Kernspecht is very good, and there was a time when he could beat Emin.. Same as for Leung Ting... who is more show than fighter....plus the age put him out of the equation..
@Tangkapan emin is not my sifu , but salih avci is and far as i know he beat emin on the ground several years ago in berlin since then they don t talk to each other but it is very difficult to say who is better , usually the one who has learned his techn. better wins , in the former ewto time when all this guys where united in the ewto we did not have such questions , but i wouldn t say that emin is only show he had to leave germany because he beat some mafia guys very ugly
@GonG108 When I was in EWTO everybody knew that Salih Avci was better than Emin at ground fighting (Emin is quite poor, must be said). They both are very talented athletes, shame their technique is bad. There are so many good masters around the world, they could have learned a lot from different Wing Chun families. As I said in another post , they have too big an ego and not enough love for Wing Chun.
@bordereye i can only speak for sifu salih and we still love him , you will not find one deciple of him who talks bad about him, when he had to leave the EWTO we all left with him and today he is the same nice guy he ever was and i am sure in 3 or 40 years the ppl will talk about him like a bruce lee even far better then him ( thats my personal opinion )
@Tangkapan Sorry to answer to such an old post. Anyway, you don't know what you are talking about. I've done sparring with Boztepe years ago and know how talented, quick and powerful he is. But his Wing Chun technique is very poor, the reason being his ego is so big that he stopped training with a master a long time ago. And about him never being defeated...any witnesses of his 300 plus fights? Has he beaten up any famous fighter (please don't mention that joke called William Cheung)?
People can you guyz keep in mind street fight these days are in GROUPS, so if it ends up on the ground , there is alwayz your opponents friends jumping in, all in all no matter what martial art you do its HOW you apply it
I really don't think so buddy. You should know by now that it's been proven long ago that wing tsun/chun purists cannot compete in a one on one against MMA or Bjj. Do some research on the early UFC, No rule fights in Brazil, and hundreds of challenge matches against BJJ, all kung fu purists got their asses beat badly.
WT is an excellent system for everyday street situation for the average person against a non skilled fighter. MMA is designed for combat competitions against skilled opponents. That is not to say that an MMA fighter can't defend himself in the streets; these guys are more that capable to look after themselves. Respect to WT and MMA, the point of martial arts to respect not to bullshit one another.
I agree. I used to love getting into flame wars over which martial art is better. Then I matured and realized, who gives a shit. Do what you want b/c you enjoy it.
Let me use a car analogy. Toyotas and Hondas are more or less the best cars you can buy. Yet you still see plenty of people buying Pontiacs, Dodge, etc... Why wouldn't they just buy the best. It's the same price more or less.
It's b/c most people don't care. They like to have choices and pick what attracts them.
He thinks he is teaching them how to beat them, but it's a total joke, the so called "anti-grappling" in WT is a complete farce, its actually sad to look at. I'm not even gonna get into it because it's been done to death over youtube. WT WC or any karate has its useful merits if you already know how to wrestle, box and grapple. WT/WC will never beat even an average mixed martial artist - the only way to beat something is to LEARN it.
Example: BJJ destroyed every style when it was just style v style, so everyone started training in it too. To be able to understand it enough to counter it with its own system: BJJ
I think I will throw a party when first MMA fan or fighter finally understands that WC does not teach an individual to fight in a cage, but to protect itself in its every day situation. They simply cannot come to that understanding (probably from steroid overuses). WC is not about dumping a bag of steroids (or "supplements") in your body and then slug it out in the cage. Hey dudes (mean MMA guys), it's not! Get it yet? My God..... :)
I feel duped by the traditional arts I studied for so long. BJJ/MT/Boxing/Wrestling - made me an athlete in a couple of months and made me such a better martial artist. I think some of us want others to experience this???
just dont acknowledge his existance n he'll shut up. trust me he will continue for a few more days (a week at the most) but if evryone from now one just ignores his comments he'll stop. even if he ask you anything u related just dont waste ur time cause he's no one thats worth it.
dude dont waste ur time wit kommisar he just goes around trash talkin evry WC vid on youtube. i have nevr seen someone go to this extent... its like he got his ass kicked by some one who might have learned a bit of WC and is now attemptin to regain his lost pride.
why does every1 like to compare this to mma and stuff you do in the ring?? like he said,your not going to use this stuff to fight a pro fighter. the average person on the street doesnt know bjj or anything like that!!!!
Caeluth, it's true, in the Wing Chun you keep your weight on the back food, but here I think that him is not in equilibrum when advances, because the legs are distant and the body's weight is on both. Boztepe use the right leg to drag forward the left leg. When Boztepe put his right leg on floor, his weight is on that leg (For a moment XD).
no , it's jeet kune do concepts. The same concept is used even in othe martial arts,
In a fight to keep the balance you must go forward with small steps. You can't make steps so long as Boztepe. ATTENTION : I didn't say that WC is bad.. I say that the movement of Boztepe is bad.
Meanwhile, komm sounds like every dumbass on an illegitimate mma forum. "Larping", "hive mentality", etc. The irony is that these MMA fanboys all sound the same and love to pick fights on youtube and forums: "Who's larping and who has a hive mentality?" These mma fanboys are the dumbest, most narrowminded, and least free-thinking people you'll meet. And the funniest part is they're stubborn as hell. Watch he'll probably respond because he wants the last word.
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"I'm done talking with you..."
Say it again. This time mean it, loser.
Haha, MMA fanboy? Is this the best the a chunner can do? Better to be an MMA fanboy than a LARPing WC homo. Tell us all about Boztepe's "300 bare knuckle street fights" and about all of WC's victories in the ring.
Street fight is verry diferent from ring or octagon fight. Like a USA marine once told: if you put me in the octagon against Randy Coture he would probably win the fight, but if you put me on the street with him i would probably kill him.
Yes, I've heard all the losers "brag" about their or their art's "street fighting" abilities. This Marine is full of shit. Randy would GNP the shit out of him like he does most people, only when the bitch goes down he goes down on pavement rather than a spring-backed canvas. So in fact, the guy would get even more fucked up than in the Octagon.
keep talking your shit. that's all you do. if you went up against me, fake tough guy, i would whip your eyes, break your collar bone with my elbow, and shatter your knee - none of which are allowed in MMA. because it is a SPORT. and you fight how you train. i know you are just a youtube shit talker and probably never had lesson 1, but even if you had a prolific career i worked in a supermax prison for 7 yrs and had more fights for my life than you ever dreamed of having for a piece of plastic
Haha, you're funny. In which part of this seminar did Boztepe demonstrate any of the moves you're referring to, hmm? The only thing you'd do if you went up against anyone who knew any real fighting is kiss the ground, 'cause that's exactly where you'll wind up in one way or another as soon as you throw that first limp-wristed chain punch.
Yes, you fight like you train. So where exactly did Boztepe do any sort of collar-breaking or eye-gouging moves? ^_^
Emin is so very handsome.
feistyteine 6 days ago
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DUMB! YOU'RE ADDING ALL THE FORCE OF YOUR BODY INTO A POSSIBLE INCOMING STRIKE = KO FOR YOU
THERS A SAYING IN BOXING THROW YOUR STRIKES NOT YOURSELF FOR THIS VERY REASON.
HE ALSO DOSNT TELL YOU WHY HE MOVES SO FAST HE DOES THAT TO WOW THE AUDIENCE INTO THINKING HE IS BETTER THAN HE IS.
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Dan0101010101010 1 month ago
I am from germany. In the media was a bad case mentioned where 4 young guys went to punch a worker in a subway. They hit the worker so hard, that he remained a long time in the coma.
When I heard this I wished Bozepe was there for help.....
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"I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN PRACTISE WITH SOME MMA FIGHTERS..."
...that would be forbidden there. they have their cage, their time, their rules. wt is for fighting, really fast and may be until death. you should know that : )
zuyiskytera 2 months ago
Emin Boztepe is brillant. I wish I could have Emin as my instructor.
He has so much knowledge.
777ELDEMONIO 3 months ago
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN PRACTISE WITH SOME MMA FIGHTERS...
PetrosA10 3 months ago
I prefer the 70 30 foot positioning, its just wing chun stance then you turn. its like a boxer stance except your not turned from them you still face them with your upper body
AsG1989 3 months ago
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boztepe is a clown.
MrFrankello 4 months ago
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MrFrankello 4 months ago
@musclepieformybaby Well it works for me perfectly.
777ELDEMONIO 5 months ago
Ive practice Muay Thai for many years now, And I am happy with my style of combat.
But I also think Emin Boztepe is an Excellent Instructor. I am very interested in studying Wing Chun. Lots of People say Muay Thai Wing Chun mix does not work I disagree. I think Wing Chun & Muay Thai Combined what a dangerouse combination. So many weapons.
777ELDEMONIO 5 months ago
@777ELDEMONIO well i did muay thai for 2 years and i've switched to wc and been doin it for 3 months and i think lots of people are right..muay thai uses theory of roundness for punches and kicks while wc goes in a straight hitting fashion...
even the stances are too different from one another.U cannot mix muay thai with wing chun IMO u gotta use and stick to one during a fight
musclepieformybaby 5 months ago
@musclepieformybaby I disagree I like using chain punching knees elbow jab cross & thai kick I use this combination a lot it works well for me. Ive trained Muay Thai 15 years & only been doing Wing Chun for 12 months total beginner in Wing Chun . I also use Wing Chuns Front heel Kick in combination with my low Thai Kicks.
777ELDEMONIO 5 months ago
@777ELDEMONIO well u see after chain punch there is an elbow follow up in wing chun but if u are leaning back and trying an elbow jab or a cross it is a mistake in my opinion.Switching to muay thai techs u mentioned before after a chain punch means giving up the base stance + follow up stance in wing chun.
Also there is something like an inside low thai kick in my wc system (IKWTS) but going out with a normal thai kick is strictly forbidden.
I respect the opinion tho..
musclepieformybaby 5 months ago
@musclepieformybaby I dont follow the wing chun stance strictly when I mix Wing Chun with Muay Thai Kicks. Yes Muay Thai has a different way of striking and I use Wing Chun Techniques only if they compliment Muay Thai and what works for me personally might not work for everybody.
777ELDEMONIO 5 months ago
If everyone here hate WT and love MMA just dont watch?! all these MMA guys in the comments of WT vids. MMA is good WT is good at the end the fighter make the difference. So stop these hatecomments and watch your favoritvideos.. I watcht much MMA videos but i NOT left any hater comments
xXTheGameKlngXx 5 months ago
i think that footwork is completly wrong
ravernow 5 months ago
Tie a rope to a door knob, leave a little slack.. so it loosely hangs there while holding the other end with your hand. Turn your body and pull (jerk) the rope and loosen again. The door should violently slam. EXPLOSIVE POWER. That is wing chun. It's not all the techniques and stuff but the concept behind it. If you train explosive power every day, you will be a very formidable fighter. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Life is awesome, live it well.
Handspoken 6 months ago in playlist The Cult
Schulleee 'real Wing Chun'? Wing Chun fighters are NOT bannned from competition, it is just the vast majority of them are rubbish fighters. In early UFC's there were hardly any rules - how many Wing Chun people did you see rushing to win the title and money? Wing Chun or WT is one dimensional & predictable - you fight chin up chain punching with silly footwork, any MMA person will hurt you in the cage or street. Name who you think is good or doing 'real' Wing Chun?
CloudsBeyond 6 months ago
It is obvious any good MMA fighter would wipe the floor with Boztepe in a real fight! MMA fighters train with much better people than he has around him / train much harder / fight often against people trying to hurt them / will use lethal techniques in real fight not just MMA as you see in UFC / many MMA fighters have fought for real many times on the street. Chin up, silly footwork, deadly chain punches etc try it in fight with good MMA person, you will lose badly!
CloudsBeyond 6 months ago
@CloudsBeyond
yeah, but that is because the WT francis and EWTO or EBMAS is total crap. that is no real wing chun !!
there is hardly andy ''real'' wing chun shown on youtube anyway.
but the ones who actually do ''real'' wing chun are the reason why it is banned in mma or any official open competition
schulleee 6 months ago
@CloudsBeyond Maby YOU should try against emin botzepe ;)
xXTheGameKlngXx 5 months ago
@xXTheGameKlngXx beat up some 50 year old fart? Would be as bad as beating up William Cheung when Boztepe did it. Bas Rutten challenged Emin face to face at his LA HQ, Emin shat his pants! Blumming students challenged him at seminar in Holland, Emin shat his pants! There have been others & everytime Emin shat his pants (sometimes literally & had to change them). He beat Cheung or ambushed him, when he is challenmged he refuses them all! Tough guy - NOT!
CloudsBeyond 5 months ago
@CloudsBeyond im not here to mess with you xD just try against him ;) if i see that you win i will fall on my knees in front of you, but you have to win ;)
xXTheGameKlngXx 5 months ago
@xXTheGameKlngXx I've seen him in person few times & trained with him, as a fighter he is NOTHING in the world of martial arts especially MMA people, in WT or Wing Chun sure he is very good at it. As for challenging him, Emin is a businessman & not stupid, he will NOT accept a real challenge; he knows there are many that could easily beat him in a fight & he is well aware a loss destroys his tough man best fighter image (just as it did to Cheung).Those who offered him a challenge, he refuses!
CloudsBeyond 5 months ago
@xXTheGameKlngXx (see my other posts) as for you saying ''if i see that you win i will fall on my knees in front of you'', you are a disgusting pervert! You offer me a Blow Job if I can beat Emin Boztepe in a fight, wth!!! You have issues I think. Just for the record, I am certainly not gay. You should be ashamed to say such things, you pervert.
CloudsBeyond 5 months ago
looks like your useing a entry technic like William Chueng to interupt his time and space.
Daddyo94521 8 months ago
,,,,,Go to MMA or Shut Up,,,
noformstyle 9 months ago
@noformstyle wing chun is banned in mma...
Sevicer999 7 months ago
@Sevicer999 no its not its just forbidden to hit into the eggs ... neck and eyes thats all
but wt practioner always say they cannot use wt because its forbidden to hit into the eggs ... neck and eyes ...
wt doesn´t work against an average mma or ufc fighter
oyamarovic 5 months ago
,,,,,,I can beat anybody who is 20 years older than me,,,,,,
noformstyle 9 months ago
This is the best way to defend against a frontkick.Not only for selfdefense,you can use it in Kick-and Thaiboxing also!
sincityracer1 9 months ago
sorry for my bad english :), for my is he a real teacher for wing tsun ,he is nuber one :)
xangelx01x 9 months ago
einfach Klasse der Demo von Emin Boztepe ! Vielen Dank gebührt auch dem Partner von Emin, der brav die Demonstrationen durchsteht !
Tvidstein 9 months ago
Ching Chong Wing Tsun kung fu is the deadliest fighting art ever! If you master Ching Chong Chi power you will be able to kill anyone without even touching them.
mmagreat 10 months ago
@mmagreat Yes,if your opponent don`t move till you find the right point ! I life in a very dangerous scene and my enemies are not so simple to touch like a partner in a demonstrate! Rather trust in LT-System,EBMAS or AK 47!
sincityracer1 10 months ago
@mmagreat What does he shoot them?
shadjazz 9 months ago
das ist mein cousing ich schwöre auf meine drei kinder walla
saadiv1 10 months ago
there is a big difference between WC wing chun and WT wing tsun. do a little research. I took WT wing tsun here in Kentucky. people from different disciplines came in challenging us all the time. I witnessed high ranking black belts from judo, karate, and even Shoalin come into our shop and get tossed around like they didnt know their right foot from the left one. The funny thing is, when these people come in, our Sijo sent the level 6 students to take care of them. Sifu Boztepe was there once.
jackherer28 11 months ago
leung ting wing chun is shit... this concept against kick is good for me...emin boztep +1
duroetosto 11 months ago
@duroetosto exactly, Boztepe is a great athlete and frightening killing machine. He trains 2 x 3 hours a day...
SimulacronX 11 months ago
@dragonmist58 Yep, was a bad school. We did only 30 minutes of Wing Chun in a 1.5 hour class. Nonetheless, I wouldn't be so sure that Wing Chun is the only pure 100% real and best ever perfect martial art. I was totally blind too in the beginning, thought it was the best ever. But it all depends on lots of other factors, like how hard you train, how dedicated you are etc etc. I don't think Wing Chun covers everything. A good boxer for instance can be a real threat.
SimulacronX 1 year ago
@dragonmist58 MMA can be the best defence there is, because everything is allowed when it works. This may also include Wing Chun techniques. If you want to really fight, take a look at the best: Bas Rutten, Fedor Emilianenko, Mark Kerr. They don't do Wing Chun, because Wing Chun is limited in certain aspects. Like the stance, kicks, grappling, proper punching etc. I loved Wing Chun, but my school seemed more like a cult, and some techniques seem too constructed for real life situations.
SimulacronX 1 year ago
@SimulacronX Look at them where??In a ring with rules,no surprise factor,7 hours aday train,5-6 years life,Big money and gumble,taking medicine to feel less pain,no weapons.....Great athletes but real?As i believe reality is relative!!
dlvt79 11 months ago
@dlvt79 I don't know if I got what you say exactly, but I am sure MMA is real fighting (mix the arts!). Do you know Bas Rutten? I trust him. Or do you know Emilianenko? Those guys need to posess the best, working techniques at such a level. No bullshido allowed here. And they don't do 100% Wing Chun at all. Because depending on the situation, boxing, kickinig, grappling etc. is not all covered by Wing Chun. In WC, lots of things seem choreographed, constructed.
SimulacronX 11 months ago
@dlvt79 I mean those guys, at this level, just need techniques that cover everything, and work. And because of that, they don't do 100% Wing Chun (in fact they don't use much WC at all). Lot's of things in Wing Chun seem choreographes, constructed, too complicated to execute in real fights. I know, because I did it myself, and I was totally believing Wing Chun is the best ever 100% self-defense system, because it is promoted as such. But take a good boxer... he alone is areal threat. Mix it...
SimulacronX 11 months ago
@dlvt79 For instance, I think Chi Sao ("sticking hands") is a nice game, but real waste of time in Wing Chun classes. It is good for a little quarrel in a bar, if you ever get to master it after 5-10 years of practice. It is far more effective to train boxing techniques, to work on your cardio and strength etc. In some Wing Chun schools, they give you Chi Sao all the time, they stretch the classes to make money. Waste of time. At least at my school, and I had to quit. Not into meditation etc.
SimulacronX 11 months ago
@SimulacronX In some points i agree.It is truth that too much time is spended in tsi sao.Normal that time sould be the 1/3 of the time,but many times a week if possible.It is not a train that need hours but time.U actually reprogramm your human body behavior and unfortunately that doesnt happen soon.That is why many people have wrong opinion and their sifus should tell the truth.Also there are few of practikers that can use shi sao in real fight.
dlvt79 11 months ago
@SimulacronX That is a second truth.Most sifu when they fight real they become stief and so their art doenst work.But chi sao is for sure the state of the art.It is the moment of 0,009 of sec that u need chi sao by touching the enemy and only that moment.Then u need all the others.(footstep.chain punches...)If u want to test the sifu he should ask u to make whatever attack u like.That told me mine when i first went at shool and he hit me with respect just to see.
dlvt79 11 months ago
@SimulacronX Even now after 7 years he keeps training me without tell me how to attack him.I do box,kicks,try to wrestle..Anyway u probably got bored of me.Find a good shool and i am sure if u are patient that u ll change your mind.If not no problem again.A last comment about boxing.Great sport but have u ever tried kick first a boxer before get near??Do it proper and u ll be surprised.Whatever u do keep training!!!Peace
dlvt79 11 months ago
@dlvt79 Interesting comment. I am still kind of fascinated by Wing Chun, but I will stay open-minded for other arts as well. It is great you still do it after 7 years. I just wanted to find a good teacher. Thanks, you keep it up too, peace & respect, S.
SimulacronX 11 months ago
i understand.i guess he had it coming.
Hawkman1367 1 year ago
2:28 Ippon!!
kenshin420jj 1 year ago
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kenshin420jj 1 year ago
As much as i know when emin hit w.chang he was controlled by kernspecht.He was the main responsible and emin was just a soldier.Kernpecht would never risk loose.So he sent emin.If emin has lost he would say emin was just a student,if he won he would sy that his w.t. was better.Maybe i am wrong but this is classical strategy of "grand" masters.
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suckmyarseb 1 year ago
i feel emin is a good fighter and i respect his wc but i'm still disapointed with how he took it on his own to disrespect William cheug that was very bad for wc.
Hawkman1367 1 year ago
@Hawkman1367
Dude, Cheung had it coming. In a big way. It was Cheung who issued an open challenge to beat anyone, anywhere, anytime, & it was Cheung who was talking mad amounts of shit about how awesome he was, how he was the One True Master, how everyone sucked except form him, etc., etc.
Cheung literally asked for it.
He didn't get anything he didn't deserve.
Nephronial 1 year ago 2
"if he can kick you, you can kick him?" Not if his leg is longer than yours. You can reach his leg but not his balls. :-)
BKKaye 1 year ago
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suckmyarseb 1 year ago
Too much talk
thefloris007 1 year ago
@thefloris007 lets see some of your latest comments:
"not even a sparring session WTF"
"gay"
seem to say a lot without using too much words, heh
makkho 1 year ago
@makkho
Your ,you've gone from a pro "mma" argument that in your mind is superior to WC,or anything outside of your limited scope to that of weapons,"do you own a bazooka"and using that argument from a stance of weakness
Make up your mind,or,better yet,wake up your mind and stop with the childish tap-out crusade.Emin has some good skills,like any man,he also has his weakness,I've sparred with him,have you?I also don't put him on a pedestal.I've stated the kind of ppl I train with,have you?
OakIslandBandit 1 year ago
and this ground argument is getting really old, since mma fighters are also fighting standing up. Ever asked yourself, why don't you see those shitty rabbit punches in the cage? cause they DON'T WORK. A boxer would easily pick angle and break his jaw with a powerful hook.
makkho 1 year ago
And sifu asshole Emin, built his whole image on a claim that wc is superior FIGHTING technique, not a survival guide. If you don't believe me watch a video him claiming he can easily beat kickboxers and wrestlers-it's on youtube.
makkho 1 year ago
Of course i'm comparing , cause it's the only thing worth comparing. Do you see emin teaching how to survive a nuclear holocaust? No he's teaching fighting fucking principles. what would you do in a normal self defense situation, where some drunken guy swings at you? Break his neck and cut his balls? Give me a break...
makkho 1 year ago
@makkhoBrazil "Do you see emin teaching how to survive a nuclear holocaust".Your taking it to the extreme,which shows a closed mind.Besides,I had my NBC training from others."he's teaching fighting principles",good for him,you're defending sport,does your training teach you what you limits are within the street (not cage)law? You're just as blind as the people who went into the cage with no ground skills.I'll give you a break,don't expect to get one in a real life fight,there are none
OakIslandBandit 1 year ago
@OakIslandBandit yeah I agree. although I'm pretty sure you just got trolled by a 13 yr old LOL. But yeah Biu Jii and Chum Kiu = go for eyes and throat. Fight however you want so you can win. especially if outnumbered you HAVE to go for easy vital targets, and quickly.
Zellieth 1 year ago
@makkho I'm aware what Emin built his whole image on,very close to what the Gracies did.In real life situations,egos fly out the door,including his with yours.I've been down on the ground in a life and death situation,more damage was done to me from my attacker's girlfriend with her high heel shoe than he did,that was just 1 case.There's NO such thing as a "normal self defense situation",flush your head gear out son,this is not about tap outs,this is about survival,a mindset you lack
OakIslandBandit 1 year ago
You sound paranoic. Where the fuck do you come from to be so worried about your safety? You live in a war zone with hundreds of terrorists planning on kidnapping your daughter? do you own a bazooka or something? MMA is hands down better for real life fighting than WC. Why do you think wc fighter is better at kicking your balls and gouging your eyes, than mma fighter? Does it require special training?
makkho 1 year ago
@makkho Yes,I live in a war zone.Your state of mind would be "paranoic",which would shut your body down.Situational awareness is a different state of mind than the word your looking for,I think in your simple mind you mean paranoid.Your attempts at sarcasm about 100 terrorists is very weak,the safety of my daughter would be more in question at the university in São Paulo than here.
I don't bash your cage sport,your job is to insult other systems
Brazil
OakIslandBandit 1 year ago
"get real about multiple opponents: saying that ANY art would prevent you from being beaten,no certain "art" will prevent anything.Your UFC/MMA proves my point.Is your version of "mma" what you see in the sport cage?? The REAL MMA of today involves H2H,firearms and situational awareness on how to escape or destroy multiple opponents,anything else is nothing but sport.Your just as guilty of weapon limitations that you accuse these people of.I'd welcome YOU,the "mma" representive to come get some
OakIslandBandit 1 year ago
@OakIslandBandit Ok. You seem to be deliberately missing my point. I'm just saying ( and is it really so difficult to understand) that on the street mma guy would SIMPLY TRY NOT TO GET TO THE GROUND. and standing up he would fight better than wc guy. period. And i don't talk about situational awareness or firearms bc here. we're comparing wc and mma from the fighting technical standpoint only, since Wc is also fighting technicque, right?
makkho 1 year ago
@makkho " bc here. we're comparing wc and mma from the fighting technical standpoint only",I'm not comparing,you are,WC works better for some people,cage fighting works for others,your missing my point,REAL MMA is not sport,what you call "mma" is just cage fighting with rules.The guys who train with people like "Progressive Combat Solutions" are the real MMA
OakIslandBandit 1 year ago
@makkho Do you train and compete in "mma" cage fighting? If you do,then you have to spend a lot of time working out,the cage is for professional athletes.If you have a daughter,and your worried about her safety and you had just a small amount of time to train her what would you do? WC is great for this type of situation,you can expect results that work in a small time frame,and no need to train like a professional athlete,most ppl don't have that time
OakIslandBandit 1 year ago
@makkho What kind of cage do you fight in? Thats the question,I like to watch cage fighters,I respect their dedication.But,I fight in a different cage,a cage where anything can and will happen and the only rule is do or die.I remember watching UFC1 and thinking that many ppl left ground training out because they trained for stand up for a reason,in the real world,the ground fight is a transition phase to get up.To see where I'm coming from,read Ken Goods article,"Which Cage do you Fight in?"
OakIslandBandit 1 year ago
Bruce lee would waste his arse, bruces side kick would knock him flying. Not shit tzun on Bruce
blkettlebell 1 year ago
another thing is, that he first badmouthed UFC and the fighters, applied and then BACKED OUT of the fight with royce gracie at UFC. Google who royce gracie is in case you don't know ( read: the guy who CLAIMED his martial superior, STEPPED UP and actually fucking WON 3 UFC tournaments. Those are just facts. Make your own opinion out of it.
makkho 1 year ago
@makkho I've yet to hear the UFC and it's fighters not badmouth anyone who didn't go by their rules.But it's all very silly,anyone who uses martial arts to stay alive in the professional world of protection details,ect. or on the street are better off using this kind of Wing Chun.Learn what to do on the ground so you can get up.The whole argument is silly and pointless,stay off the ground,stay alive
OakIslandBandit 1 year ago
The question what works best was answered 10000 times already - in the cage. And standard arguments that mma isn't effective because you can't go to the ground on the street is idiotic. any skilled mma fighter has better takedown defense than wc fighter. And please get real about multiple opponents: saying that ANY art would prevent you from being severly beaten by 3 people, just proves you've never been in a fight in your life.
makkho 1 year ago
@makkho "arguments that mma isn't effective",no arguments here,it is effective,Wing Chun was the mma of it's day,the costs were so much more back then."you can't go to the ground on the street is idiotic",If you're my back-up,and you choose to go to the ground with a threat,you're risking not only yours,but mine and other lifes of your team because we'd have to bail your ass out of a bind." mma better takedown defense than wc fighter",of course,thats what they train for,the ground.
OakIslandBandit 1 year ago
A lot of commentators seem to miss the point of this clip. They go off on some other irrelevant tangent or dismiss the thing completely without addressing the details of what has been said...or like me, waste one's time criticizing the quality of criticism knowing full well that this is YouTube and not conducive to relevant, point by point criticism. As for me, the magnetic zone concept, preparation and circle step entry, range analysis, and wedge pressure ideas have been pretty useful.
ThisSentenceIsFalse 1 year ago
@ThisSentenceIsFalse Thank you for your thoughtful and intelligent dialogue.
I agree with your point about irrelevant comments BUT I think one of the points you failed to address is how Emin's red T-Shirt and black trousers are representative of the 'Le Rouge et le Noir' (The Red and the Black) novel by Stendhal.
I would like to see him recite this classic story whilst doing Chi Sau, until then I cannot accept him as a true Sifu of Wing Chun.
I know you will agree with my analysis.
WingChum 1 year ago
@WingChum It's hard not to disagree with your analysis bc sarcasm gets me everytime.
ThisSentenceIsFalse 1 year ago
Too bad he doesn't have the time to prove himself in the cage. He rather spends his time posing like bruce lee and badmouthing real mma fighters.
makkho 1 year ago
EMIN BLOWTEPE WOULD GET HIS FUCKIN TEETH KNOCKED OUT IN THE CAGE OR THE STREET, AND QUICK.
makkho 1 year ago
@makkho Are you shure?Visit him,for guys like you he`s got always the time !
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suckmyarseb 1 year ago
@makkho To me, MMA is the real deal, as everything working is allowed in it. BUT you don't know Boztepe. He is a very proficient fighter, a real athlete, one of the best Wing Chun guys in the world. You underestimate him. He teaches army and police forces in self-defense and fighting. Anyway it all depends on dedication, discipline, strength, technique, no matter what art you do. You should not offend masters like that, just shows your ignorance and lack of respect.
SimulacronX 1 year ago
man this guy is good but i gotta say the truth.he wouldt beat me...
miseriadocao 1 year ago
@miseriadocao
of course... u must be that unbeatable guy everybodys talking about...
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suckmyarseb 1 year ago
MMA stongest art is jiu jutsu boes that mean it would work on the street? Absolutely NO because u can't do that huggin around on concrete and in a street fight it's gonna be more than one person..if you try do that crap on the street the other guy is gonna kick ur head in simple as that.
These UFC fanboys have no life they dont train in anything but when it comes to youtube comments they're the champs.Monkey see Monkey do.
GenghisKhanization 1 year ago
@GenghisKhanization In ANY martial arts video on YouTube, there will be ignorant people claiming that XX-style is better than YY-style. There's no such thing as the ultimate style, nor the ultimate fighter.
Concerning any ground-fighting style: It is extremely efficient in 1v1 situations, but if you are ever outnumbered, the last thing you want to do is go on the ground with 1 of them. At the same time you need to know how to counter take downs when outnumbered, or you'll get your ass kicked.
berg89dk 1 year ago
emin boztepe ist einfach der beste
emre9495 1 year ago
This guy has the fastest circle step I've ever seen
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suckmyarseb 1 year ago
Emin Boztepe is very good.
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suckmyarseb 1 year ago
As Tangkapan says it's not what you trained thats going to automaticly make you win. If you don't have the mindset you will loose. I trained with Emin once, he takes up the room. ( Not just cause you know about him, but you can feel that he has the "IT". To make him a great fighter ), If you want to compare arts, sports or styles, wich is better... Train them all and make it your own way of fighting. kajukenbo trains you for multiple attackers, but it's only you who can defeat them.
squeakytoy 1 year ago
what do you think about that:
Emin Boztepe vs. Norbert Maday
Pett1024 1 year ago
@Pett1024 Hi m8 i see your coment and i have to say that this will be not a VS fight but a fight that both if them will be good.My opinion is that Sifu Emin will be better at footwork but for real i dont know,i just like em both very very much :D
kwstantine 1 year ago
Again, "step up" how, you lunatic? You faggots DON'T FIGHT. You cannot prove WC works because it is bunk. Boztepe is a fraud and chunners are cowards.
kommisar 1 year ago
Chunners always have an excuse to turn down a fight. Boztepe did it himself when he was offered to fight in the UFC. WC is for pussies. No wonder you like it.
kommisar 1 year ago
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suckmyarseb 1 year ago
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TheKINGFEDOR 1 year ago
Kommisar and Transatlantic, please chill out. You'll never agree on this subject so what's the point in trying to convince each other! Just agree to differ. Kommisar, I don't think Transatlantic is saying to train poorly, I think he's just saying that most people aren't trained to fight, so if you train to a reasonable level then you should have a marginal advantage in a fight. Mind you, I never tell anyone that I train because I've seen people who boast get knocked out by a lucky punch!
kallawoo 1 year ago
pretty good teacher... still i thing leung ting is better
naygath 1 year ago 2
Transatlanticism04 1 year ago
Transatlanticism04 1 year ago
kommisar has right, Kung Fu ist bullshit, why they dont fight against a boxer ?
gokzilla 2 years ago
Oh oh oh EMIN....there is a bid different between theory and practice on the street...
Emin Emin...
konerath 2 years ago
@konerath
You got to love this emin.
His supporters say he teaches real street fightin, not ring fighting. Then my question would be these
- why is he teachin his students how to beat ring fighters such as thai boxers and boxers?
- if he says his methods can easily beat them, why not step into the ring and prove it?
lol.
womblewandering 2 years ago
if there are more ppl in the street you wont use armbar.....
shakazaman 2 years ago
i gotta ask u sumtin if u are in a fight on a street against more dan 1 person and u try and put dem in an armbar d other fella is jus gonna start standin on ur head....however arm bars are great in mma which is a sport not on d street!
ebmasdan92 2 years ago 10
@ebmasdan92 I don't know why MMA people insist that it's effective in the street. No one will allow their friend to hit the flow without jumping in and becoming 2 or 3 against 1. MMA is tough, but there are lots of things that look tough but won't survive a real street fighting test (especially multi attack, which is, unfortunately, very frequent)
jjhaywood 1 year ago
@jjhaywood so true or if u try n grapple on concrete someone with half a brain is jus goin 2 pick u up n smash ur head off the CONCRETE.....no mats 2 cusion ur head or body
ebmasdan92 1 year ago
@ebmasdan92 yeah. well, unfortunately 4 me, I've seen what u've described in an attack 3 months ago. Sad to c a man literally lose his eye because he wants to roll around on the floor. And it's sad really that so many ppl buy into hype and don't think critically. Ground skills are SUPER important. But MMA is not really mixed but a style specifically for ring fighting, very much resembling Pankration. There r schools that teach more practical application of ground defense than what I c in UFC.
jjhaywood 1 year ago
@jjhaywood well dats wat has 2 happen im afraid 2 wake dese idiots up...pity
ebmasdan92 1 year ago
@ebmasdan92 thats where you prefer WT over MMA :-)
people who love to go to teh ground, die very fast on the streets where the attacker often has friends.
zoolkhan 1 year ago 2
and those 10 thumbs up on the @ebmasdan92 comment just show that chunners are mostly fools.
makkho 1 year ago
@makkho why do all mma fans have to be so disrespectful to all other martial arts....and another thing if you are so enthusiastic about mma why dont you spend ur time training instead of comin on 2 wt vids talkin shit........and hey emin has done more than just wt muay thai he did for years but wt worked for him...i know people who have done other arts like muay thai but think wt works best for them ...but listen i love mma i love watching it its my fav sport :)
ebmasdan92 1 year ago
@ebmasdan92 but listen when i say wt worked better for them than muay thai i dont mean muay thai doesnt work....the art is only as gud as the fighter using it
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bloodyfox66 2 years ago
some morons in here are so lame.. Emin in't this Emin isn't that.. You fools should challenge him & put your money where your mouth' s are. Emin isn't at all just show. he never lost a fight (real). all the time that MMA arguing. Of course MMA is good, but not too good on the streets , cause you never know what happens while youre on the ground. Plus A fight is never won by a stile but by a person. You can train whatever you want. if your a loser not even a gun can make you better.
Tangkapan 2 years ago 26
@Tangkapan the only man who has won a fight against emin boztepe is sifu salih avci the inventor of anti ground combat he is the instructor for the german and turkish special forces , the other one is emins and salihs teacher keith r . kernspecht and top of them is dai sifu leung ting
GonG108 2 years ago
@GonG108
K. Kernspecht is very good, and there was a time when he could beat Emin.. Same as for Leung Ting... who is more show than fighter....plus the age put him out of the equation..
Tangkapan 1 year ago
@Tangkapan emin is not my sifu , but salih avci is and far as i know he beat emin on the ground several years ago in berlin since then they don t talk to each other but it is very difficult to say who is better , usually the one who has learned his techn. better wins , in the former ewto time when all this guys where united in the ewto we did not have such questions , but i wouldn t say that emin is only show he had to leave germany because he beat some mafia guys very ugly
GonG108 1 year ago
@GonG108 When I was in EWTO everybody knew that Salih Avci was better than Emin at ground fighting (Emin is quite poor, must be said). They both are very talented athletes, shame their technique is bad. There are so many good masters around the world, they could have learned a lot from different Wing Chun families. As I said in another post , they have too big an ego and not enough love for Wing Chun.
bordereye 1 year ago
@bordereye i can only speak for sifu salih and we still love him , you will not find one deciple of him who talks bad about him, when he had to leave the EWTO we all left with him and today he is the same nice guy he ever was and i am sure in 3 or 40 years the ppl will talk about him like a bruce lee even far better then him ( thats my personal opinion )
GonG108 1 year ago
@GonG108 I think also!
sincityracer1 1 year ago
@Tangkapan absolutly right
krokodilparadies 1 year ago
@Tangkapan Sorry to answer to such an old post. Anyway, you don't know what you are talking about. I've done sparring with Boztepe years ago and know how talented, quick and powerful he is. But his Wing Chun technique is very poor, the reason being his ego is so big that he stopped training with a master a long time ago. And about him never being defeated...any witnesses of his 300 plus fights? Has he beaten up any famous fighter (please don't mention that joke called William Cheung)?
bordereye 1 year ago
People can you guyz keep in mind street fight these days are in GROUPS, so if it ends up on the ground , there is alwayz your opponents friends jumping in, all in all no matter what martial art you do its HOW you apply it
geoluo88 2 years ago 3
look this video /watch?v=_npWwEchElI
velotube46 2 years ago
I really don't think so buddy. You should know by now that it's been proven long ago that wing tsun/chun purists cannot compete in a one on one against MMA or Bjj. Do some research on the early UFC, No rule fights in Brazil, and hundreds of challenge matches against BJJ, all kung fu purists got their asses beat badly.
romanazazel 2 years ago
for fucks sake, stop this WT/MMA bullshit
WT is an excellent system for everyday street situation for the average person against a non skilled fighter. MMA is designed for combat competitions against skilled opponents. That is not to say that an MMA fighter can't defend himself in the streets; these guys are more that capable to look after themselves. Respect to WT and MMA, the point of martial arts to respect not to bullshit one another.
romanazazel 2 years ago 3
Yeah but you can still train WT for combat competitions against skilled opponents, you just have to be extremely prepared ....
munk25 2 years ago 2
I agree. I used to love getting into flame wars over which martial art is better. Then I matured and realized, who gives a shit. Do what you want b/c you enjoy it.
Let me use a car analogy. Toyotas and Hondas are more or less the best cars you can buy. Yet you still see plenty of people buying Pontiacs, Dodge, etc... Why wouldn't they just buy the best. It's the same price more or less.
It's b/c most people don't care. They like to have choices and pick what attracts them.
liyon316 2 years ago 3
@romanazazel
I dont see why emin teaches his students how to beat mma fighters wheh none of them have the guts to enter the ring.
Let me guess....emins students think they will encounter mma guys in the street? lol :p
womblewandering 2 years ago
He thinks he is teaching them how to beat them, but it's a total joke, the so called "anti-grappling" in WT is a complete farce, its actually sad to look at. I'm not even gonna get into it because it's been done to death over youtube. WT WC or any karate has its useful merits if you already know how to wrestle, box and grapple. WT/WC will never beat even an average mixed martial artist - the only way to beat something is to LEARN it.
romanazazel 2 years ago
Example: BJJ destroyed every style when it was just style v style, so everyone started training in it too. To be able to understand it enough to counter it with its own system: BJJ
romanazazel 2 years ago
nice video
SuperTutorialKing 2 years ago
I think I will throw a party when first MMA fan or fighter finally understands that WC does not teach an individual to fight in a cage, but to protect itself in its every day situation. They simply cannot come to that understanding (probably from steroid overuses). WC is not about dumping a bag of steroids (or "supplements") in your body and then slug it out in the cage. Hey dudes (mean MMA guys), it's not! Get it yet? My God..... :)
brcko7 2 years ago
Agreed.
Transatlanticism04 1 year ago
KaeNemen
His last seminar was in Antalya /Turkey . ( 2 weeks ago) but you can find the seminar dates in EBMAS web page
megardin 2 years ago
How come it's all ways the mma guy's posting crap in wing chun vids?? If you dont like it don't watch it...
Transatlanticism04 2 years ago 2
I feel duped by the traditional arts I studied for so long. BJJ/MT/Boxing/Wrestling - made me an athlete in a couple of months and made me such a better martial artist. I think some of us want others to experience this???
Bzdi138 2 years ago
just dont acknowledge his existance n he'll shut up. trust me he will continue for a few more days (a week at the most) but if evryone from now one just ignores his comments he'll stop. even if he ask you anything u related just dont waste ur time cause he's no one thats worth it.
DarkAssassin77 2 years ago
dude dont waste ur time wit kommisar he just goes around trash talkin evry WC vid on youtube. i have nevr seen someone go to this extent... its like he got his ass kicked by some one who might have learned a bit of WC and is now attemptin to regain his lost pride.
DarkAssassin77 2 years ago
Something Knowing were was this seminary??
KaeNemen 2 years ago
why does every1 like to compare this to mma and stuff you do in the ring?? like he said,your not going to use this stuff to fight a pro fighter. the average person on the street doesnt know bjj or anything like that!!!!
Transatlanticism04 2 years ago
Gracias wolferinefan12, para compartir eses videos! Son dem. bueno!!!
costaricanhero 2 years ago
emin you rule man you are excellent
sandeorsandeor 2 years ago
2:37 if the boy , when Boztepe advances, attacks with a "swept " on the right leg, Boztepe go down like a stupid X ° ° D
amantedelcalcio 2 years ago
amantedelcalcio, not so. in wing chun you keep your weight on the back foot, so your front foot is always available to kick, block, or counter-kick
Caeluth 2 years ago
Caeluth, it's true, in the Wing Chun you keep your weight on the back food, but here I think that him is not in equilibrum when advances, because the legs are distant and the body's weight is on both. Boztepe use the right leg to drag forward the left leg. When Boztepe put his right leg on floor, his weight is on that leg (For a moment XD).
amantedelcalcio 2 years ago
orly? where did you learn that? karate kid?
AlienZygote010 2 years ago
no , it's jeet kune do concepts. The same concept is used even in othe martial arts,
In a fight to keep the balance you must go forward with small steps. You can't make steps so long as Boztepe. ATTENTION : I didn't say that WC is bad.. I say that the movement of Boztepe is bad.
amantedelcalcio 2 years ago
Que puedo decir; EXCELENTE toda una lecciòn, GRACIAS por este video.
de Argentina.
tansao1 2 years ago
Meanwhile, komm sounds like every dumbass on an illegitimate mma forum. "Larping", "hive mentality", etc. The irony is that these MMA fanboys all sound the same and love to pick fights on youtube and forums: "Who's larping and who has a hive mentality?" These mma fanboys are the dumbest, most narrowminded, and least free-thinking people you'll meet. And the funniest part is they're stubborn as hell. Watch he'll probably respond because he wants the last word.
wasssuuuppp420 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
"I'm done talking with you..."
Say it again. This time mean it, loser.
Haha, MMA fanboy? Is this the best the a chunner can do? Better to be an MMA fanboy than a LARPing WC homo. Tell us all about Boztepe's "300 bare knuckle street fights" and about all of WC's victories in the ring.
kommisar 2 years ago
Street fight is verry diferent from ring or octagon fight. Like a USA marine once told: if you put me in the octagon against Randy Coture he would probably win the fight, but if you put me on the street with him i would probably kill him.
canibal64 2 years ago 5
Yes, I've heard all the losers "brag" about their or their art's "street fighting" abilities. This Marine is full of shit. Randy would GNP the shit out of him like he does most people, only when the bitch goes down he goes down on pavement rather than a spring-backed canvas. So in fact, the guy would get even more fucked up than in the Octagon.
kommisar 2 years ago
@canibal64
what makes you think coture wont kick him in the head while hes down and kill him instead?
womblewandering 2 years ago
keep talking your shit. that's all you do. if you went up against me, fake tough guy, i would whip your eyes, break your collar bone with my elbow, and shatter your knee - none of which are allowed in MMA. because it is a SPORT. and you fight how you train. i know you are just a youtube shit talker and probably never had lesson 1, but even if you had a prolific career i worked in a supermax prison for 7 yrs and had more fights for my life than you ever dreamed of having for a piece of plastic
AlienZygote010 2 years ago
Haha, you're funny. In which part of this seminar did Boztepe demonstrate any of the moves you're referring to, hmm? The only thing you'd do if you went up against anyone who knew any real fighting is kiss the ground, 'cause that's exactly where you'll wind up in one way or another as soon as you throw that first limp-wristed chain punch.
Yes, you fight like you train. So where exactly did Boztepe do any sort of collar-breaking or eye-gouging moves? ^_^
kommisar 2 years ago