I suggest that more applications be demonstrated on video because ignorant people only see the forms and often want to speculate whether MMA is better or what ever art.
Good stuff. I like Ba Gua Zhang because it teaches one that you must be able to move as you execute. A book I'm reading advises that I know basic kicks and punches to use in conjunction with Ba Gua Zhang walking. To combine the two is what keeps me attracted to it. You are often taught how to block and kick, grapple and punch, it's a core of martial arts; but I don't know of many (outside of Iiado and the like) that teach you how to remain in stance even as you move.
@goobtron You can start with Yang style Taijiquan or Xingyiquan. After you have learned the basics of Xingyiquan, you may add Baguazhang in your training.
@taipingvlg I do Yang Style Taijiquen and love it. Love the health benefits and it has helped my jiu-jitsu a lot by being more aware of how my body is weighted and moves.
@goobtron the only style thats useful for self-defense purposes is Xingyiquan. Taiijiquan and Baguazhang is just silly. Xingyi is a pretty straight forward style. the five fists can be applied to mostly any situation in a street fight. The good thing about xingyiquan is its not made to look pretty like taijiquan or baguazhang. so you can expect it to be the real deal instead of believing in the "penetrating force" from Chinese movies.
It is probably worth mentioning that as bagua was founded by Dong Haichuan during his years in Beijing and thus bagua should be traced by lineage from Dong Haichuan rather than connections to any of the famous mountain monasteries.
In case none of you critics noticed, his feet were always very close to the ground and his knees were bent at the perfect angles. His rooting was excellent.
To my limited experience, it looks like it focuses on putting the opponent off balance, then using that to get inside of their defense. If I'm wrong, let me know.
Is that so? Deception is often crucial in MA. You say he's not rooted...There are individuals who LOOK unrooted but can fling another person 10ft across the room with minimum effort/movement. A video of YOU doing this YOUR correct way would be interesting...
@Occultaz False, all martial arts can be used in a real life situation. In most cases, you have to be experienced or an expert to actually use it effectively.
Please don't tell me you like or support MMA and you trash on Martial Arts. MMA is primarily BJJ, Muy Thai, and Kickboxing. BJJ came from Brazil and Muy Thai came from Thailand. Of which are separate martial arts. MMA is too hyped to the point where people think they can beat anyone.
No, ur wrong. SOME of Baguazhang is created not to fight. But SOME of it was created to fight too. why do u think there Fu Style in it? :P im not trying to sound like a smartass like you.
i have an appreciation for all of the more intricate martial arts generally speaking about any of the various kung fu styles, but i'm always left wondeing just how practical they would be when tested against an agressive assailant with momentum and what not being thrown at the practioner
This system is designed for an aggressive attacker movin forward wit pressure n momentum, Hes circling to move around his opponent when the opponent moves forward towards him,all he does is moves around him. think like dis, if some1 rushes u with full momentum, and right b4 he touches u, u move to the side n circle, all that momentum will just throw him off balance Hence the styles circle walkin Im pretty sure these styles have been proven n tested, but has degraded into dance in the modern era
@dougiedangers - don't wonder, discover. Dig up every teacher you can find and go push hands with them. If they can push, slap, kick, throw, punch you in a way that you realistically could not defend against, and alternately if you cannot push, slap, kick, throw or punch them, then become their student. If not, keep looking. Learn by experience, not by speculating. Ask questions but be respectful.
does he do the 360 degree turns mostly against multiple opponents? a lot of systems advise against giving up your back or taking your eyes off a single opponent
hes not turning his back against an opponent hes moving around him and circling his power hand like boxing. And when he does look like hes turning his back, hes really not, hes twisting his opponent to the ground (throw) imagin a wrestler doing a suplex agaisnt an imaginary person, it'll look like hes turning his back to someone but hes really just moving around to the persons back to throw him.
never ceases to amaze me the variations on ba gua.This teacher stops which breaks the flow of chi i think there could be shaolin influence there which would explain the difference to our form
To tcharney123: I am sorry that I don't know the answer. I extracted the song from a CD a student gave me a few years ago. He didn't put down anything on the CD and he is no longer with the school.
@kelotz07 there are not much, if any flying manuevers at all. bagua focuses alot on stability of the user. so rooting to the ground and walking in a circle is one of the most important part. jumping into the air goes against that
The majority of the movements in the form are from different branches of Cheng Ting-Wha style Baguazhang. For example, palm 3, the beginning of palm 4, and the last two sequences (black dragron swings its tail) are Gao Yi-Sheng style movements.
Master Lin teaches traditional push hands routines and a version called response hands which is more free form push hands. There is also extensive training on how to use cold fajin during push hands so one does not need to time to prepare the fajin. The Pre-Heaven system that he teaches allows the practitioner to fajin at anytime. It is the best system I have seen in my 27 years of martial arts training.
i see bagua videos and school all over las vegas and im pretty sure else where too, its not common in america but its not extinct, just bekuz you dont see it doesnt mean it doesnt exist, your view isnt the whole world . besides instead of askin a stupid question you could of looked online n no its not extint, i practise it lol
most martial arts are born from one or all of three things... animals, the elements, or dancing... take Hung Gar... its based after the tiger and crane, Tai Chi is based on water, and Northern Shoulin Kung Fu is kind of like a dance... never underestimate things you dont understand... most people that saw the first gun thought it wasnt very impresive or deadly at first glance, but after seeing it or being the target of it... they instantly knew to fear it as something that can and will kill you
I mentioned before this art is awesome. And this guy is good, some of those take downs were pretty fanastic and thanks to this video I now have a better idea about what the v-step looks like when moving into it.
Ancient Chinese masters developed and mastered these arts out on the trade routes protecting merchants jacking up thieves and actually killing people. Perhaps you can get a Ouija board and ask the 800,000 people killed by internal martial arts and ask them whether or not they're effective. MMA fighters are scar tissue covered, cauliflower eared, joint damaged, arthritic messes by age 40. They're trained hard to fight hard for a short career. I train my art. Chances are you don't train shit.
why is it that every one thinks mma is the greatest fighting style in the world? and why is it that its always the idiot with no or little knowledge of martial arts who comments on the videos of traditional martial arts. its sad how people dont understand martial arts any more. it is simply training your body. when it is necessary a martial artist can apply the basics of the martial art into actual fighting. it is not about aggression or looking for fights.
How practical is your "mma guy rushes on to you" in a real fight (no quotes) after the buddies bludgeon, stab, or shoot your MMA guy while he's down on the ground? In retrospect your MMA guy might wish that he could have delivered a few quick, sneaky, coiling strikes and gotten the hell out of there before being maimed or killed.
In MMA there are over 20 foul strikes and techniques. Virtually all of which were just used in this video to hurt the attacker. I think the MMA guy would be crying for the referee after about 3 seconds. MMA is not no holds barred anymore it is now a sport and as such has no place in "as you put it" real fight situations. Grappling is designed for 1 on 1 wrestling sports but is useless if being attacked by anymore than 2 people. Bagua on the other hand is designed for multiple attackers
That's the whole thing the style looks like a dance and is based on evasive foot steps. It's designed to circle and confuse the attackers, notice how he walks in a circle? You (mma too) are the center of that circle. Simple evasion and counter. Come at me with intent to kick leaves your balance leg open to a 'trip' out. I am amazed at this guy's foot workwork it's very smooth. I know the basics but I doubt I can become this continous of a motion.
Despite what you seem to think, a "real fight" is not what you see on UFC. Most real fights (as in fights between average people) are clumsy and awkward spectacles to behold.
But to the core of your question... which is deadlier: the rhino that blindly charges in and relies entirely on size and force, or the snake who makes a single, deliberate strike?
Both can kill you, but there is an element of blind luck when relying on force. When you have skill, attacking is an act of will, not luck.
well i used it in practice and it worked great. 2 were greco roman wrestlers and i used mantis, taiji, ba gua and hung ga. Funny thing is that when they rush you full force they can't change direction and just capitalize on that. Plus the crouching structure makes it easy to uproot if you know what you are doing and they don't change their weight distribution.
I'd like to try this style, but i got a few questions about... What if you fight against a Baji fighter? And against a Wing-Tsun ones?
I mean, which one could be the result in both of them? Looks like a bit strange but Baji is explosive and Wing-Tsun so standed, so, the circling movements really work on this situations?
This is an excellent demonstration. If you would like to know more you can visit my website, which is located on my page. While your there please feel free to suscribe me. I would be glad to help you with anything bagua related your having trouble with.
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and 4:45 is like a double nikyo move i was taught.
I think these kinds of things are pretty awesome. it just ties all martial arts together really. it seems if one were to compare, aikido is an even softer version of bagua.
I think that's really true. There are certain set principles in nature that all martial arts share (in this case, e.g. the human body can only move so many ways before it gets locked up, e.g. circular motion redirects energy and balance). Goes to show that martial arts has alot more in common than "styles" would lead us to believe. Differences largely depends on what the martial artist choses to do with his knowledge.
Where can i find a Sifu in my area? i live in MA. i would dedicate every day any hour to this, i must find a Sifu. I have been hunting for the one martial art that calls to me, and none have called so much as BaGuaZhang.
Actually, baguazhang is very different from the so called airbending. Avatar bases there characters on such styles but in reality they are not a bit similar.
Circular movements (with arms, legs, center (dantien=hara)), similar chin-na (locks, etc.), similar entering and turning (irimi and tenkan in aikido), strikes to set up moves (atemi), etc., etc. Also, read B.K. Frantzis's book (former student of top bagua, taiji and xinyi masters, as well as Ueshiba), who theorises that Ueshiba studied bagua during the war.
From a gross motor viewpoint, they are similar in that circular movements are used to neutralize an opponent and control his center of balance. However, Aikido focuses alot more on fine motor control of the wrists to lock and force a throw (showing its roots in Daito Ryu Aiki-jujutsu). Baguazhang utilizes more body-checks, leg traps and elbow strikes to trip or knock down the opponent.
Philosophy-wise, the two arts diverge significantly on the issue of hurting an opponent. Ueshiba's vision of Aikido was an art that could resolve conflict without causing harm to anyone, even the opponent; atemi and pain compliance is used only to effect the throw/lock. Baguazhang, on the other hand, retains its combatative roots in its usage of aggressive throws and counter strikes to disable the opponent. The two arts have the same circular concept, but two very different goals.
Pa-Kua (Ba Gua) is considered a very technical and comprehensive style. The more higher level forms look totally overkill. It also will keep you VERY healthy.
I've used Tai Chi to close the gap at the start of a fight because you use so much sensitivity in technique.
While I am not practicing that particular style, and while I am still a beginner, i would say that Bagua s the most effective art of self defense i have ever learned ... and that includes karate, taekwondo, taichi, wingchun, jiujitsu and judo.
Mind you, the form is often much different from any application in Bagua. It is ddesigned to learn movement concepts, not to be a combat drill.
There's nothing fancy or complex about bagua footwork or principles. They're proven against multiple attackers and Bagua was used by Royal bodyguards etc. The comment about coming up against a jujistu player is unwarranted. I have been training in Bagua and Taiji for 17 years and have trained with "Jujistu Players". They were stiff, too wrapped up in doing their own thing and had no idea about sticking and flowing with an opponent. BUT this is all down to the individual not the style.
Yep.. sure can. Yang Lu chan (creator of Yang style) was known as Yang the invincible and was said to draw blood with every step. Some of his sons/Grandsons tried to run away as the training was so hard. But nowadays people don't see the awesome fighting art it is. SHAME.
I'm answering your question on taijiquan, although this is baguazhang being demonstrated. There are misconceptions about both arts in the west. The way I see it, is that Bagua seems to have retained more of its martial background than taiji. The new age movement has a lot to answer for in this respect. Yes it can be relaxing to do, but this is a side effect of learning the fighting art that it is. If you learn it exclusively for health, then you are denying yourself half the art.
Plus if you don't understand how the various forms are applied, then you have little hope of understanding how the energy should move through your body. This is only my opinion and not meant to offend others.
I wanna learn this! AirBending was based off of it!
elmofreak121 6 days ago
And this is of how much use in a real fight?
XionXi 1 week ago
AIRBENDING!!!!
Doomreavr 2 weeks ago
xiaoyu from tekken brought me here...
laeth1988 1 month ago
Byakugan!
DieTenkaichiMeister0 1 month ago
avatar brought me here !!! :p
TheEziofan 4 months ago
Avatar Aang and Neji of the Hyuga Clan
wilmarod1 4 months ago
I wish so bad I could train this. Seems there are hardly, if any, schools at my country of this art
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AIRBENDING!!
CharlesBinh 6 months ago
nice, too bad he bobs when he walks :/
zanghi79 7 months ago
This is the style the "Good" Jet Li used in "The One" correct? Very fluid style - I really like the feel of it.
wesleysmithphoto 8 months ago
Airbending :)
htgtmd 10 months ago 7
@htgtmd Gentle Fist
Jionunez7 9 months ago
very nice flow in the applications! Beautiful!
BTeerapongK123 10 months ago
I suggest that more applications be demonstrated on video because ignorant people only see the forms and often want to speculate whether MMA is better or what ever art.
memyself2k 1 year ago
Good stuff. I like Ba Gua Zhang because it teaches one that you must be able to move as you execute. A book I'm reading advises that I know basic kicks and punches to use in conjunction with Ba Gua Zhang walking. To combine the two is what keeps me attracted to it. You are often taught how to block and kick, grapple and punch, it's a core of martial arts; but I don't know of many (outside of Iiado and the like) that teach you how to remain in stance even as you move.
Theparableof0 1 year ago
I like it , if you dont mind I'm going to add it to list of forms.Going to take awhile but I like it alot
michahberta 1 year ago
@michahberta Sure. Go ahead.
taipingvlg 1 year ago
Good form.
If I were to learn all three internal styles, which should I start with?
goobtron 1 year ago
@goobtron You can start with Yang style Taijiquan or Xingyiquan. After you have learned the basics of Xingyiquan, you may add Baguazhang in your training.
taipingvlg 1 year ago 3
@taipingvlg I do Yang Style Taijiquen and love it. Love the health benefits and it has helped my jiu-jitsu a lot by being more aware of how my body is weighted and moves.
wesleysmithphoto 8 months ago
@wesleysmithphoto Great comment I too do yang style Tai chi and have practiced Hungar
foxybrown2 1 month ago
@goobtron the only style thats useful for self-defense purposes is Xingyiquan. Taiijiquan and Baguazhang is just silly. Xingyi is a pretty straight forward style. the five fists can be applied to mostly any situation in a street fight. The good thing about xingyiquan is its not made to look pretty like taijiquan or baguazhang. so you can expect it to be the real deal instead of believing in the "penetrating force" from Chinese movies.
Xingyiquan,taijiquan, then baguazhang.
ShuyuKoukin 1 year ago
@ShuyuKoukin What experience do you have with Baguazhang and Taijiquan to assert they are just silly?
goobtron 1 year ago
@goobtron ill message you since i dont want to spam the user's vid with my response lol
ShuyuKoukin 1 year ago
@ShuyuKoukin - please continue believing this. The element of surprise always makes things easier.
jmacatx 1 year ago
@jmacatx believe in what? movies or experience?
ShuyuKoukin 1 year ago
nice office!!!!
lonegroable 1 year ago
please please please tell me something about this awesome music track.
Very nice video, great martial style.
MikeyItes 1 year ago
@MikeyItes Please see kitsuneopal's comment for the name of the music. Thanks.
taipingvlg 1 year ago
@taipingvlg is this gao bagua
cause there is a school close to me that teaches gao style
ofomatheblackbelt 1 year ago
For anyone who wants to know what the first song is, it is called - Shake Shake Tataku: The Best of Kodo, Vol. 2 (1994-1999)
kitsuneopal 1 year ago
@kitsuneopal
thanks! it's a great stirring song.
slizzler1 1 year ago
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grogandroppa 1 year ago
Very interesting.
I am a practitioner of Tai Tzu, Bagua is a beautiful art, I wish to someday learn at least a bit of it.
justinvengeance 1 year ago
Wow, it really does look like airbending!
DeltaSceptile 1 year ago
It is Shake Kodo
liveevil1789 1 year ago
help me correct my *everything please*
manufacturedfracture 1 year ago
chinito de melaa haber k se venga por aqui por el callao lo sacamos calato jeje
galactico186 1 year ago
Form section is boring, but when you start from 3:20 gets more interesting.
Theonlydump 1 year ago
His transitions are remarkably smooth
YoshiroShin 1 year ago
The three internal styles of Bagua, Xingyi and Tai Chi are Taoist in origin.
The two most well-known schools are found on (Mt.) Wudan/Wutang and (Mt.) Emei.
And ofc, that's not including lineages...it can get a bit complicated, so it's prolly easier to just call them Taoist or Internal Styles.
Bankstercide 2 years ago
It is probably worth mentioning that as bagua was founded by Dong Haichuan during his years in Beijing and thus bagua should be traced by lineage from Dong Haichuan rather than connections to any of the famous mountain monasteries.
Sjnjerak 2 years ago 2
Yes and Xing Yi was composed from marshal Yue Fei.
VANJAKKOSTJUK 2 years ago
Martial Arts were originally developed for combat in order to survive.
When fighting wasn't as necessary to survive, people re-invented it to meet other important needs.
A hammer can build a house or break skulls - the focus of the training changes, but the tools are the same.
Bankstercide 2 years ago 13
is this southern shaolin or northern shaolin
ofomatheblackbelt 2 years ago
@ofomatheblackbelt this isn't shaolin
nagexingqisi 2 years ago
Where can I learn how to do this? Any good schools in Florida?
Hiarch123 2 years ago
is the circle where he's walking, constant in size? does it shrink? or move? its very different than yin bagua,, thnks
genkaiyatsudan 2 years ago
The performer sometimes walks in circles with his hands up. Does anybody know what the application is for this movement?
Gyte75 2 years ago
Ah I'd love to learn bagua!! (I do chen tai chi right now)
by the way, what are the drums you chose for this videos?
vnikey 2 years ago
In case none of you critics noticed, his feet were always very close to the ground and his knees were bent at the perfect angles. His rooting was excellent.
imisspokemon 2 years ago
To my limited experience, it looks like it focuses on putting the opponent off balance, then using that to get inside of their defense. If I'm wrong, let me know.
crow5by5 2 years ago
This is so cool to watch. I do martial arts, but no way is it this refined.
crow5by5 2 years ago
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Toryonline 2 years ago
How do you know this? Through experience, or just watching a video?
emptybowlfullbelly 2 years ago
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Toryonline 2 years ago
I meant, have you personally tested this man's rooting? Furthermore, do you really presume you can tell so much about someone by watching a video?
emptybowlfullbelly 2 years ago
Is that so? Deception is often crucial in MA. You say he's not rooted...There are individuals who LOOK unrooted but can fling another person 10ft across the room with minimum effort/movement. A video of YOU doing this YOUR correct way would be interesting...
AintNoSuperiorStyle 2 years ago
What is the music in this video? It's great!
aerialpunk 2 years ago
Sounds Korean to me, but I could be wrong on that.
shatterprone 2 years ago
i watched this about 50 times and even recorded and watched in slo-mo to see the moves clearly and practice them.
last week at school some1 threw a punch at my friend and i 3:43 and then 4:14 on him. now i'm suspended for 2 weeks.
=(
RolinTW 2 years ago
Ba Gua Zhang is not created to fight with someone.
But it teach you that fight is not the way,
@Toryonline= if you don t know Bagua, you cna't understand what he is doing.
Occultaz 2 years ago
If you think BaGua is not for fighting, then you don't know much about BaGua.
chrisfreel 2 years ago 26
He say '' some1 threw a punch at my friend and i ..bla..bla..''
I told him that bagua is not created to fight with ''some1''. Not when some1 threw a punch to your friend.
Occultaz 2 years ago
@chrisfreel How do you pronounce the martial art and is this wudang style
S3aCa1mRa1n 2 months ago
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Toryonline 2 years ago
In a real situation maybe you can't use theese applications, but have respect for this master.
In a video a spectator can't understand what he is doing.
Maybe you've very more experience than me in this style.
Occultaz 2 years ago
@Occultaz False, all martial arts can be used in a real life situation. In most cases, you have to be experienced or an expert to actually use it effectively.
Please don't tell me you like or support MMA and you trash on Martial Arts. MMA is primarily BJJ, Muy Thai, and Kickboxing. BJJ came from Brazil and Muy Thai came from Thailand. Of which are separate martial arts. MMA is too hyped to the point where people think they can beat anyone.
rur0un1x 1 year ago
No, ur wrong. SOME of Baguazhang is created not to fight. But SOME of it was created to fight too. why do u think there Fu Style in it? :P im not trying to sound like a smartass like you.
theneenjah 2 years ago
@theneenjah ALL martial arts was created to fight.
But not to fight in schools, vs a person that don't know nothin of MA, like he did. Stop. I said that.
If some one throw you a punch, it isn't so right that you broke him an art, or not?
Occultaz 2 years ago
@Occultaz ...ummm no offense, but i cant understand u :P
theneenjah 2 years ago 2
Nice to see some kicks integrated in bagua. Thanks for sharing.
oceanirons 2 years ago 2
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quanjiahao87 2 years ago
i have an appreciation for all of the more intricate martial arts generally speaking about any of the various kung fu styles, but i'm always left wondeing just how practical they would be when tested against an agressive assailant with momentum and what not being thrown at the practioner
dougiedangers 2 years ago
This system is designed for an aggressive attacker movin forward wit pressure n momentum, Hes circling to move around his opponent when the opponent moves forward towards him,all he does is moves around him. think like dis, if some1 rushes u with full momentum, and right b4 he touches u, u move to the side n circle, all that momentum will just throw him off balance Hence the styles circle walkin Im pretty sure these styles have been proven n tested, but has degraded into dance in the modern era
anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
@dougiedangers - don't wonder, discover. Dig up every teacher you can find and go push hands with them. If they can push, slap, kick, throw, punch you in a way that you realistically could not defend against, and alternately if you cannot push, slap, kick, throw or punch them, then become their student. If not, keep looking. Learn by experience, not by speculating. Ask questions but be respectful.
jmacatx 1 year ago
does he do the 360 degree turns mostly against multiple opponents? a lot of systems advise against giving up your back or taking your eyes off a single opponent
egglot12 2 years ago
hes not turning his back against an opponent hes moving around him and circling his power hand like boxing. And when he does look like hes turning his back, hes really not, hes twisting his opponent to the ground (throw) imagin a wrestler doing a suplex agaisnt an imaginary person, it'll look like hes turning his back to someone but hes really just moving around to the persons back to throw him.
anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
awesome!
tonso9 2 years ago
never ceases to amaze me the variations on ba gua.This teacher stops which breaks the flow of chi i think there could be shaolin influence there which would explain the difference to our form
karlcrawford 2 years ago
truly amazing
jin09rigo 2 years ago
truly and masterful form.
could you be so kind to tell me what artist and song this is, the drums are awesome!
tcharney123 2 years ago
To tcharney123: I am sorry that I don't know the answer. I extracted the song from a CD a student gave me a few years ago. He didn't put down anything on the CD and he is no longer with the school.
taipingvlg 2 years ago
@tcharney123
The music sounds like Japanese Taiko Drumming, maybe it's a song by the group "KODO"
Akaoushi 1 year ago
dunno much about bagua, but I've observed they do a lot of circular movements...if you're kind enough, can you post some of the flying manuevers?
kelotz07 2 years ago
@kelotz07 there are not much, if any flying manuevers at all. bagua focuses alot on stability of the user. so rooting to the ground and walking in a circle is one of the most important part. jumping into the air goes against that
LoDsuper 1 year ago
Very good form...I like internal kungfu.
indokungfu 2 years ago
Hello Sifu,
What style of Bagua are you performing in the video? Many thanks for your time!
Xie Xie!
KCMO2NDTWIN 3 years ago
The majority of the movements in the form are from different branches of Cheng Ting-Wha style Baguazhang. For example, palm 3, the beginning of palm 4, and the last two sequences (black dragron swings its tail) are Gao Yi-Sheng style movements.
taipingvlg 3 years ago
Very inspirational!
Thanks!!
bagua007 3 years ago
The Bagua looks good, but the music is entirely annoying...
newthings158 3 years ago
That is some beautiful Bagua. Does he teach some version of push hands / sticky hands / soft hands? Or mostly striking?
jansondaybreak 3 years ago
Master Lin teaches traditional push hands routines and a version called response hands which is more free form push hands. There is also extensive training on how to use cold fajin during push hands so one does not need to time to prepare the fajin. The Pre-Heaven system that he teaches allows the practitioner to fajin at anytime. It is the best system I have seen in my 27 years of martial arts training.
ramszman 3 years ago
good!
Terryltk 3 years ago
it was very nise to see it
martialrzn 3 years ago
did bagua zhang extinct? i mean all i see is people teaching tai chi and other kung fu...
MichaelTheInfamous 3 years ago
i see bagua videos and school all over las vegas and im pretty sure else where too, its not common in america but its not extinct, just bekuz you dont see it doesnt mean it doesnt exist, your view isnt the whole world . besides instead of askin a stupid question you could of looked online n no its not extint, i practise it lol
anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
Can anyone tell me what the music is in this vid, Its great!
redjademartialarts 3 years ago
most martial arts are born from one or all of three things... animals, the elements, or dancing... take Hung Gar... its based after the tiger and crane, Tai Chi is based on water, and Northern Shoulin Kung Fu is kind of like a dance... never underestimate things you dont understand... most people that saw the first gun thought it wasnt very impresive or deadly at first glance, but after seeing it or being the target of it... they instantly knew to fear it as something that can and will kill you
foxintheshadow 3 years ago
I mentioned before this art is awesome. And this guy is good, some of those take downs were pretty fanastic and thanks to this video I now have a better idea about what the v-step looks like when moving into it.
Theparableof0 3 years ago
Ancient Chinese masters developed and mastered these arts out on the trade routes protecting merchants jacking up thieves and actually killing people. Perhaps you can get a Ouija board and ask the 800,000 people killed by internal martial arts and ask them whether or not they're effective. MMA fighters are scar tissue covered, cauliflower eared, joint damaged, arthritic messes by age 40. They're trained hard to fight hard for a short career. I train my art. Chances are you don't train shit.
baguazhang1 3 years ago 24
very well said.
VNPrince 3 years ago
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yeah very realistic
is he dancing, acting or fighting?
I wonder if these things will work in a "real fight" situation when a mma guy rushes on to you.
(please dont bullshit the "it is too deadly to practice in real actiooon" shit)
"the killer fingeeerrr" yeah very deadly
necroyunus 3 years ago
why is it that every one thinks mma is the greatest fighting style in the world? and why is it that its always the idiot with no or little knowledge of martial arts who comments on the videos of traditional martial arts. its sad how people dont understand martial arts any more. it is simply training your body. when it is necessary a martial artist can apply the basics of the martial art into actual fighting. it is not about aggression or looking for fights.
firstmanshot 3 years ago 8
How practical is your "mma guy rushes on to you" in a real fight (no quotes) after the buddies bludgeon, stab, or shoot your MMA guy while he's down on the ground? In retrospect your MMA guy might wish that he could have delivered a few quick, sneaky, coiling strikes and gotten the hell out of there before being maimed or killed.
VelBongSau 3 years ago
In MMA there are over 20 foul strikes and techniques. Virtually all of which were just used in this video to hurt the attacker. I think the MMA guy would be crying for the referee after about 3 seconds. MMA is not no holds barred anymore it is now a sport and as such has no place in "as you put it" real fight situations. Grappling is designed for 1 on 1 wrestling sports but is useless if being attacked by anymore than 2 people. Bagua on the other hand is designed for multiple attackers
MrPeteOfJustice 3 years ago 6
That's the whole thing the style looks like a dance and is based on evasive foot steps. It's designed to circle and confuse the attackers, notice how he walks in a circle? You (mma too) are the center of that circle. Simple evasion and counter. Come at me with intent to kick leaves your balance leg open to a 'trip' out. I am amazed at this guy's foot workwork it's very smooth. I know the basics but I doubt I can become this continous of a motion.
Theparableof0 3 years ago
Despite what you seem to think, a "real fight" is not what you see on UFC. Most real fights (as in fights between average people) are clumsy and awkward spectacles to behold.
But to the core of your question... which is deadlier: the rhino that blindly charges in and relies entirely on size and force, or the snake who makes a single, deliberate strike?
Both can kill you, but there is an element of blind luck when relying on force. When you have skill, attacking is an act of will, not luck.
7vezda 3 years ago 4
the stradegy is evasive stepping,coiling, and striking at the same time
randyds5 3 years ago
easy if a mma rushes in bagua will walk around.
cfG21 3 years ago
well i used it in practice and it worked great. 2 were greco roman wrestlers and i used mantis, taiji, ba gua and hung ga. Funny thing is that when they rush you full force they can't change direction and just capitalize on that. Plus the crouching structure makes it easy to uproot if you know what you are doing and they don't change their weight distribution.
cfG21 2 years ago
wow..thats so much better than any martial arts i've seen.
meh800 3 years ago
great video, thanks for sharing. do y'all make that music yourselves?
atxryan321 3 years ago
i have this style on rumble fighter and it rocks!!!looks perfect
ninjaman632 3 years ago
what's rumble righter?
atxryan321 3 years ago
rumble fighter is a free combat based mmorpg
ninjaman632 3 years ago
thanks for posting! I especially enjoyed the good use of shoulder.
richardshapiroII 3 years ago
very impressive style. I first learned of this style from Avatar: The Last Airbender. i like how smoothly it flows from one move to the next.
plamaide666 3 years ago
i wanna learn this now :P
darktim101 3 years ago
Hello:
I'd like to try this style, but i got a few questions about... What if you fight against a Baji fighter? And against a Wing-Tsun ones?
I mean, which one could be the result in both of them? Looks like a bit strange but Baji is explosive and Wing-Tsun so standed, so, the circling movements really work on this situations?
Thank you very much
arconegro 3 years ago
that mattress gets a good workout!! good stuff!
bigrobnz 3 years ago
This is just great. Really nice performance!
mixjourneyman 3 years ago
Thanks for that really good video.
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evildnalor 3 years ago
I love this video
dearestneco 3 years ago
Ooooh my first time seeing circle walking. Amazing
Encablossa 4 years ago
What is the name of that awesome song that plays during the apps? Is it by Kodo?
karasu0 4 years ago
emei right?
YodaTheName 4 years ago
i think it's very awesome to note the similarities between the martial art i've practiced for a while (aikido) and ba gua.
take a look at 4:15. That's very similar to an nikyo takedown.
4:37 is very similar to shiho nage
and 4:45 is like a double nikyo move i was taught.
I think these kinds of things are pretty awesome. it just ties all martial arts together really. it seems if one were to compare, aikido is an even softer version of bagua.
a3leggedmidgit 4 years ago
I think that's really true. There are certain set principles in nature that all martial arts share (in this case, e.g. the human body can only move so many ways before it gets locked up, e.g. circular motion redirects energy and balance). Goes to show that martial arts has alot more in common than "styles" would lead us to believe. Differences largely depends on what the martial artist choses to do with his knowledge.
Silentium13 4 years ago
O'Sensei used to learn Bagua Zhang, and he used it to make Aikido more efective :)
basilolo 4 years ago 2
wow impresinante la tecnica, habra que practicarla mucho para llegar a este nivel.
gato875 4 years ago
It's cool. Can look at bagua for ages! If i could find any master here in russia (
JipVanDerBeren 4 years ago
8 tri gram whaaaaaa! xD
herrofaggot 4 years ago
Neji!!!!!!!!! "8 trigrams 64 palms"
thelosttoa11548 4 years ago
airbending!
earlbarker 4 years ago
I'm truly amazed at this style so successfully relies on counters.
I mean, my god, its simply amazing.
Tiller777 4 years ago
Where can i find a Sifu in my area? i live in MA. i would dedicate every day any hour to this, i must find a Sifu. I have been hunting for the one martial art that calls to me, and none have called so much as BaGuaZhang.
NightOwlisaFox 4 years ago
Woot, airbending!
Atrific3r 4 years ago 2
no..... god that disgraces my families style
Never compare them.... ew, never again...
Smific 4 years ago
I meant no offense, but in the Avatr TV show the movements of Airbenders are actully based on Baguazhang. It's pretty cool.
Atrific3r 4 years ago
Actually, baguazhang is very different from the so called airbending. Avatar bases there characters on such styles but in reality they are not a bit similar.
BaguazhangMaster 4 years ago
I studied under him for a few years.
JokXiu 4 years ago 2
really where is he located?
Smific 4 years ago
How well does he teach?
goobtron 2 years ago
I am truly impressed with the amount of arm breaks in the applications. Baguazhang is very impressive.
tjq211 4 years ago
Martial arts of any sort never cease to amaze me.
ShadowDaPk 4 years ago
reminds me of aikido
looker768 4 years ago
how does that remind of aikido
FluffyWin 4 years ago
similar philosophy, i think.
Darce223 4 years ago
Circular movements (with arms, legs, center (dantien=hara)), similar chin-na (locks, etc.), similar entering and turning (irimi and tenkan in aikido), strikes to set up moves (atemi), etc., etc. Also, read B.K. Frantzis's book (former student of top bagua, taiji and xinyi masters, as well as Ueshiba), who theorises that Ueshiba studied bagua during the war.
dnmehay 4 years ago
From a gross motor viewpoint, they are similar in that circular movements are used to neutralize an opponent and control his center of balance. However, Aikido focuses alot more on fine motor control of the wrists to lock and force a throw (showing its roots in Daito Ryu Aiki-jujutsu). Baguazhang utilizes more body-checks, leg traps and elbow strikes to trip or knock down the opponent.
Silentium13 4 years ago
Philosophy-wise, the two arts diverge significantly on the issue of hurting an opponent. Ueshiba's vision of Aikido was an art that could resolve conflict without causing harm to anyone, even the opponent; atemi and pain compliance is used only to effect the throw/lock. Baguazhang, on the other hand, retains its combatative roots in its usage of aggressive throws and counter strikes to disable the opponent. The two arts have the same circular concept, but two very different goals.
Silentium13 4 years ago
Pa-Kua (Ba Gua) is considered a very technical and comprehensive style. The more higher level forms look totally overkill. It also will keep you VERY healthy.
I've used Tai Chi to close the gap at the start of a fight because you use so much sensitivity in technique.
MasterLeonardis 4 years ago 4
is there any where i can buy an instructional dvd or book on this style
longfist25 4 years ago
Great show, this guy is good
Baguazhangster 4 years ago
what style of bagua is this. cheng, emei, yin or what?
longfist25 4 years ago
It is a Cheng style Baguazhang form.
taipingvlg 4 years ago
I thought he taught Yin style and Gao style.
goobtron 2 years ago
this is very well performed....i know that and i only studied bagua for 5 months....lol
yumeji1 4 years ago
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it looks good, but its too complicated and relies too much fancy footwork to be effective. against a jujitsu user, he'd be screwed
brassmonkey84 4 years ago
While I am not practicing that particular style, and while I am still a beginner, i would say that Bagua s the most effective art of self defense i have ever learned ... and that includes karate, taekwondo, taichi, wingchun, jiujitsu and judo.
Mind you, the form is often much different from any application in Bagua. It is ddesigned to learn movement concepts, not to be a combat drill.
ateismi 4 years ago 3
There's nothing fancy or complex about bagua footwork or principles. They're proven against multiple attackers and Bagua was used by Royal bodyguards etc. The comment about coming up against a jujistu player is unwarranted. I have been training in Bagua and Taiji for 17 years and have trained with "Jujistu Players". They were stiff, too wrapped up in doing their own thing and had no idea about sticking and flowing with an opponent. BUT this is all down to the individual not the style.
littlecannon 4 years ago 5
interesting
brassmonkey84 4 years ago
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so taiji can be used offensively and practically? i always thought of it as a good exercise for old folks
brassmonkey84 4 years ago
Yep.. sure can. Yang Lu chan (creator of Yang style) was known as Yang the invincible and was said to draw blood with every step. Some of his sons/Grandsons tried to run away as the training was so hard. But nowadays people don't see the awesome fighting art it is. SHAME.
littlecannon 4 years ago 2
talking abt bakwazhang or taiji?
brassmonkey84 4 years ago
I'm answering your question on taijiquan, although this is baguazhang being demonstrated. There are misconceptions about both arts in the west. The way I see it, is that Bagua seems to have retained more of its martial background than taiji. The new age movement has a lot to answer for in this respect. Yes it can be relaxing to do, but this is a side effect of learning the fighting art that it is. If you learn it exclusively for health, then you are denying yourself half the art.
littlecannon 4 years ago 2
Plus if you don't understand how the various forms are applied, then you have little hope of understanding how the energy should move through your body. This is only my opinion and not meant to offend others.
littlecannon 4 years ago
oh no worries. =)
i took taiji when i was young you see, but its mainly for health reasons.