Enhancement and the secularised philosophy of transhumanism

[Clarkofkrypton]

i want to have superhuman abilities & to be immortal

[evgeniy13]

Would it be christian to help transhumanism? Greater bunch of transhumanists are atheists. or at least agnostics. Let's pretend that there is God, and all those people are going to hell for non-believing. Is not it better, if they would stay on Earth or travel into space or live in a digital world? Or it would be better for them to suffer in hell till the last day?

[GodMarley666]

Why is he stick religion into this subject for

[FurudeJinja]

I want to be immortal.

[Blacklemon67a]

@FurudeJinja props bro, thinking forever :D

[coupcoupTV]

This fellow speaks as if the two philosophies are mutually exclusive, which they are not. There has been a dialogue developing between Christian and Transhumanist organizations since around 2003, focusing on their shared belief that we exist in a "transcendent reality directed by something greater than humanity". For Christians that reality is defined as God, and for transhumanism that reality is defined as the evolutionary force of the universe.

[Adlershof]

I don't agree. There are some tranhumsnists that combine transhumanism with their religous believes. However, that is a personal believe. Transhumanism was born as a secular movement that doesn't define evolution as a "transcendent reality directed by something greater than humanity".

[Adlershof]

I don't think that "the evolutionary force of the universe" is a spooky "force", as you put it, just as I don't believe in god and just as I don't think gravity has any metaphysic properties. Transhumanism is not a religion or a spooky metaphysic system, it is base in materialist science. If you want to believe in spooky forces of the universe go ahead, but that is not transhumanism

[coupcoupTV]

I did not intend to imply that evolution carried any supernatural properties. I used force in the strictest sense of the word: a powerful effect or influence, a guiding paradigm. Systems have inherent transformational power, to which the word force can easily apply.

[coupcoupTV]

Look, I believe in materialist science, too. I believe that the brain can be reverse engineered to create synthetic consciousness. If I believed in metaphysics, that would be impossible. I'm just trying to say that transhumanism would do well to be inclusive in their rhetoric, acknowledging the lessons learned from and values shared with spiritual traditions.

[Elluem]

Yes, here's a valuable lesson. Don't waste your time worshiping or fighting over or for things that were created and propagated only to give some group of humans more power and control.

[apoliticalchristian]

I had never thought about the secular parallels with Christian theology before - amazing!

[Adlershof]

Brave statement from a christian. He knows what he is talking about. Of course most christians will refuse some of the transhumanist points of view. Transhumanism is a secular philosophie. It has to do much more with the Obermensch of Nietzsche than with christianism. Transhumanism menaces the believe in the christian god. I, my self, am on the transhumanist side.

Great video