I may be just a humble Brit, but I get the impression that this guy inielsen76 is the sort who might spend his spare time rollerskating down Broadway stark bollock naked except for a bowtie yelling "they're out there!". Bring back Bellevue.
I couldnt hear anything- just pauses in the sound recording. and there was already smoke rising from the base of the tower, anyway, due to WTC2's collapse. If there were explosions, who's to say they were from the base, and not the sound of progressive structural failure from higher up?. This smells of silliness.
@phaasch If you can't hear them then you're deaf, stupid or a shill. Just about every HEROIC FDNY FIREFIGHTER that was on the scene has STATED CATEGORICALLY that there were MANY HUGE EXPLOSIONS that occurred - before AND during. Are you calling THESE BRAVE MEN LIARS?
@zarathustra2k1 I am certainly NOT calling anyone from FDNY a liar. All I know is, when I watch this, all I get are sound pauses at the alleged peaks. I can hear the rest just fine, so I'm not deaf. I have a degree, so I guess I'm not that stupid, and I don't know what a shill is. I do know that you are a very rude individual, and if you want people to listen to your theories, rather than just switch off, a little forbearance and basic good manners will go a long way to helping your cause.
this was a inside job PERIOD!! thats all yall people need to know. NIST is hiding something because they were acting suspicious and couldnt stand two secs looking ppl asking questions in the eye and bush?? oh man he choked and studdered so bad you know they hiding something. he couldnt get his words together
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What a bunch of crap... "base" explosions would not cause the tower to collapse at the point of impact zone. The structure failed there because of the damage from the plane and resulting WEAKENED steel from the fires. No demo... idiots. Keep trying though... lol
Thats because you don't have a clue. Demolition uses explosions at the base to weaken it prior to collapse. Do some reasearch about demolitions and you might get a clue.
Monkey Bush and all his friends, who have use the USA as their enterprise for their own porposes, who have killed 3000 of their people for cheating their country and all over the world, they must be judged by law as Slobodan Milošević and Sadam Hossein were judged, judged by an international court for crime against humanity.
How can these devil people be the government of the USA?! All the citizens of the USA are wild people, stupid people.
Lack od correct spelling discredits your statement. Anyway, Hussein was judged by an Iraqi court, not an international one. So you got his name wrong AND didn't know who sentenced him.
kid, if you prefer we can speak spanish, do you know spanish?
what I meant with my "statement" is that monkey Bush and his friends must be judged for crime against humanity by an international court, not that Houssssein were judged by an international court xD. it's clear. you discredit yourself even writing correct english, man.
those explosions would send out enormous amounts of hot gas and dust clearly distinct from a common gas fire
there is no way as much as a couple sticks of dynomite could go undetected even in the huge plume of smoke simply because itwould blow it away in every direction and not just cause a tremor
finally why 4? one would work best, professionals agree
Are you trying to say there were explosives planted in the WTC? I have covered many fires in my time and I can tell you many things in mondern day structures can "explode". Your theroy holds about as much clout as a pile of frog poop!
I'm sorry, I'm new to this conspiracy stuff. The ONLY way I'm really going to completely believe this was an organized conspiracy is if the reports show it as true when I'm 88. I think it takes 75 years for files of National Security to be released. Kennedy's assasination records will come out in the 2020's??? Sorry if I'm mis-informed, I don't follow this stuff religiously.
i've been through a year and hundreds.. i mean hundreds of hours of videos, essays, etc and i have found the quickest up to date way to learn is to skip the BS and hear from the mouths of CIA, FBI architects, engineers , physicist & other credible people at patriotsquestion911 . com and search for The 9/11 Whistle-Blowers Part I here on youtube
i don't see how vertical steel columns implode vertically. there were like 47 internal steel columns, they somehow manage to pancake in a vertical fashion. picture that in your head... at free fall speed steel smashes into itself.. OR demolition. 2 + 2 = 4
and actually i though some more, you "could" explain the loud noises as being the floor trusses collapsing, and imnpacting the floors below, they are then eclipsed by the collapse of the whole structure, so the distinct sound is garbled up, just a possabilty
explain to me, how if they used explosives at the base of the tower, only the floors above the impact moved? if there were explosives at the base, naturally the base of the tower would begin to collapse as well, like in controlled demolition, the base gives way and then the top follows, yet with the WTC collapse, we see the oppoisate, tbe base dosent give way untill the building hits the ground
It would have been really stupid for the perpetrators to use a "conventional-style" demolition from bottom to top, now wouldn't it? That would have fucked their plan to make it look like top-down "progressive collapse". Besides, the twin towers were by far NOT conventional buildings. Bottom up, may have caused them to fall over. Think about it.
You underestimate the capabilities of these criminals.
Joe, you are such a shill for White House, acting like a doofus to make people think all 911 CTers are clowns. Enda Clintron did not speak to you planes or jet fuel. That's just the voice you're hearing in your own head. Don't you understand that if you make a claim like this that you have to back it up or no one will believe you? Pathetic.
Ah ha ha! Joe, you clown. You didn't even know she was the person waving from the impact hole. You actually thought she talked to people about jet fuel when in fact she couldn't have because she died on that day & you continue to ridicule her. Oh wait! I know, she sent you mind messages, right? Yes, that's it! So when you have absolutely no evidence to support your crackpot assertions, you just...make it up!
You are hallucinating. She said nothing to "us" and you are making a mockery of her death. You didn't even know she died on 911 until I told you. When will you stop spreading your hate?
Oh man, I'm not much into name-calling but you really are a moron, Joe. Edna Clintron died on 911, so there is no way she could say there was no jet fuel. And of COURSE she hasn't read the NIST report. You'll probably try to say you were joking or something, anything to conceal how you just lied about Clintron "saying" anything.
Hey Joe shill, you got your figures messed up if you're citing the summary report. Otherwise, you haven't stated which volume are you referring to. Why am I not surprised that you can't even get a citation right? How much do they pay you to act ignorant?
Repeat all of my citations? What the hell for? They're all over the place. Stop being lazy and go fetch, you shill. At least you admit that your efforts here are part of your political agenda as opposed to being part of a serious line of inquiry. That explains why you reject the views of engineers, demolition experts, metallurgists, crash site investigators, & seismologists. Besides, why listen to them when you can get all the answers you need by watching videos on YouTube
I can't stand Rush. Why would you think this has anything to do with personal politics? That's bizarre! You've obviously missed my many SPECIFIC references and leap to the unsubstantiated conclusion that I haven't given them. Typical.
As usual, you're wrong, Joe. I keep referring to sections of the NIST report, independent papers, photos, FDNY statements, witness statements, news articles, etc. etc. If you haven't seen those, you're blind. But I already know what your response would be to them - they're all "lies" or "fake" & the scientists and witnesses are all liars or are controlled or paid off or something.
PoetryHound writes: "I keep referring to sections of the NIST report"
Shyam Sunder the lead NIST investigator admitted the jet fuel probably burned out in less than ten minutes.
Office furniture fires caused both Towers to collapse plus WTC 7, leaving nothing standing?
Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition Inc, was present for the cleanup and said, "Yes, hot spots of molten steel were seen in the basements."
poetryhound= stupid pro-bush robot. He gets paid to write thousands of commends under several names - all "pro-bush" and 2 unsharpen the logical facts that proove: 911 was a evil inside job. Clever people can see this white house rats here unfocusing the true evidence that bush & bonesmen are guilty of high treason ans mass murder. So you poetryhound: suck cheneys dick and leave us alone here. we don´t need organized govermental brainwash here on youtube!! write commends on CNN and FOXTV.
Ozelot, you poor thing. You sure spend a lot of time inventing fantasies about me. I guess that's easier than coming up with evidence to substantiate your baseless assertions. Still haven't found a demo expert that says the towers came down in controlled demos?
PoetryHound-Just wanted to keep you busy looking at this post.
If you looking here than you can't be over there on another post. I am going to organize your opposition to join me in this strategy of keeping you busy by wasting your time. Eventualy you will become frustrated. Have fun chasing your sanity. If you are sick of PoetryHound copy this comment and past it as a reply to PoetryHound. Lets spam him into the Nut House.
Not - there are photos of the smoke rising and people milling around that corner of the WTC. Photo proof that you make up lies. Go find the photos; it will be like a quest. Very disrespectful to show shoddy research crafted just to make your preconceived point.
Based on other building demolitions, it would have taken about 10 months to prepare each tower for demolition. The "power shutdown" that took place in just 1 of the towers was for part of 2 days. The other "evacuations" were likewise very brief. Not enough time to prep the towers for demolition. Not by a long shot.
HOW ABOUT WHEN THE ASBESTOS WAS BEING BLOWN ON, YOU ANNOYING-AS-HELL SMART-ASS? DID THAT TAKE ONLY A FEW DAYS? HOW ABOUT WHEN THE COPPER STEEL COVERS WERE BEING PUT ON THE UPPER STEEL H BEAMS IN 1996? MAYBE WHAT HAPPENED IN THOSE DAYS -AND WHEN COMPANIES WERE TOLD TO MOVE ELSEWHERE IN THE TOWERS- WAS WHEN THEY DID THE FINAL WIRE-UP & CONNECTIONS.
Why did Philip Zelikow have to be present at the Commission hearings? Why did everyone that did speak feel the need to have 1 or 2 lawyers present?!!
Do you even know which bldg the asbestos was applied to, and where it was applied? Or is this just another tidbit you randomly throw out with no substantiation? Oh maybe the charges were installed in 1996? Well, that gets Silverstein off the hook, doesn't it? All you do is toss out speculations. Speculation is not evidence. There's no evidence of explosives. None.
Opportunities for smaller operations and main wiring:
weekends, holidays, evening/nights during asbestos placement, during sprinkler retrofitting process, during copper column covers placement (at top of north tower), during periods of empty, vacated company offices
Opportunities for final det cord connections & TELE BLASTERS: during weekend shutdown
Unless you have any evidence or witnesses, this is pure speculation. Plus, since the collapses began on the impact floors, there's no way any explosives, detonators, cabling, etc. could have survived the plane crashes, fireballs, etc.
If you look closely at some of the videos, you can actually see some of the firemen carrying lots of explosives into the buildings, then hear them scream "ALLAHU AKBAR!" before blowing themselves up in smoke (which you can see trailing out the windows seconds later). Most people are too distracted by the hydrogen bombs and decoy drone planes to notice this.
POETRYHOUND AGAIN TRIES TO UNFOCUS THE HIGHLY LOGIC ARGUMENTS OF CONTROLLED DEMOLITION in this FILM. everbody search "power shutdown 911" & "unusual evacuations before 911" to find out the truth how they brought the explosives into the WTC. they told people that they set up new internet cables - what a farce - they set up the explosives to mass murder their own fellow americans !!! poetryhound go home and kiss cheneys ass.
There wasn't nearly enough time during these alleged episodes to place sufficient explosives. They were days at most. Based on other demos, it would have taken a minimum of 10 months to place sufficient explosives in 1 tower.
Drilling/burning through base columns: weekends, holidays, during any other time of construction in the below-ground levels (welders have to put up 'screen' so in case anyone does come near & look they won't be blinded by the arc)
Is there any evidence of any of that happening? Did Port Authority, which was in charge of maintenance & lost staff on 911, report anything unusual over the many months, if not years, this would have taken? Did security staff report anything? Did tenant report anything? This would have had to pre-date the Bush Administration, and if you're talking about asbestos placement, that would take us back to the Carter Admin. All of what you write is pure speculation.
Quite simple to pull off really, all they had to do was have explosives planted in the base of the towers, and on 9/11 they pretended like 4 planes were being hijacked when really they just rerouted them to Pennsylvania, then flew two military jets into the World Trade Center filled with more explosives and shot down all the witnesses on Flight 93 with an F-15 after blowing up the Pentagon with a cruise missile. It was only the world's most intricate and flawlessly executed plan ever, ever.
I heard that a maintenance worker testified before the 9-11 Commission about the explosives in the basements. He was ignored. The planes must have been some kind of diversion. Looks like a hydrogen bomb going off when the plane-thing plowed through "cracking the top". Even FEMA stated that a nuclear event happened at the wtc site on 9-11. Who the hell knows. But you can be dam sure that this was no "PAN-CAKE COLLAPSE". That is Total BS!!
i dont see why you guys are fighting so hard for the governement, if the government is so innocent why wont they hold a debate about it? simple as that, they are hiding things from you. even unfire proofed steel wont melt until about 3000 degrees F (look it up seriously) and jet fuel only burns at 2000. and if you people think it was only the fire that cause the collapse then how come the one that got hit second fell first?
Exactly, and also, don't you think at least one of the hundreds of emergency workers and/or cameramen at the base of the tower would've seen something you stupid liberal fucks.
People did hear stuff. It's all on video. Watch more videos and you will see people being interviewed saying they heard explosions well before the collapse.
Yes, people definitely heard explosions and what they thought were explosions. Many things cause explosions in a fire. But no evidence of explosives was found.
Why this? What that? Why do you believe there was a government conspiracy with explosive demolitions when all you have are questions and no evidence? You haven't even read the reports that answer your questions. You dismiss them without even reading them. What an intellecual.
poetryhound: WE ALL CAN SEE TROUGH YOU ! YOU ARE A WHITEHOUSE-FUZZY - UNFOCUSING THE EVIDENCE THAT THE OFFICIAL STORY STINKS TO HELL !!!!
everybody search "depleted uranium" and "gulf war syndrom" here on youtube to find more evidence that the USA is hitchhicked by the satanic cult SKULLS & BONES.
The new world order is build on our all skulls and surounded by an ozean of our peoples blood !!!! Poetryhound is guilty of supporting mass murder and crimes against humanity.
I hereby declare ozelot guilty of being a Nazi Mossad fascist Byzantine Klingon spy. I don't need any evidence to prove it. It's true because I say so. Ozelot was sent by the White House to act like an ignoramus so that eveyone would think all conspiracy theorists are dumb blockheads. We can all see through your tactics, ozelot.
POETRYHOUND OUR UNFOCUSING ROBOT IS A DICKY DICK LICKER. Poetryhound we all can track your thousand stupid attempts here to unfocus logical evidence of a dangerous regime sitting in the white house. YOUR TACTIC IS SO STUPID AS PEOPLE CAN SEE MY UPLOADS - WHERE IS YOUR UPLOADS ???? ...and about NAZI: Prescot Bush sent millions to THYSSEN in the 1930thies to strenghen ADOLF HITLER and his GESTAPOmen. So the NAZIs are sitting closer to the white house than to my bananaplantage here in costa rica.
PoetryHound-Just wanted to keep you busy looking at this post.
If you looking here than you can't be over there on another post. I am going to organize your opposition to join me in this strategy of keeping you busy by wasting your time. Eventualy you will become frustrated. Have fun chasing your sanity. If you are sick of PoetryHound copy this comment and past it as a reply to PoetryHound. Lets spam him into the Nut House.
Can one of you conspiracy fuckwits explain to me why there were "explosions" at the base of the tower, and yet it was the top of the tower that collapsed?
Sure. The base explosion would have taken out the basement so that when the buildings were demolished, they would have somewhere to accumulate themselves. After all, that is the object of demolish, to have buildings collapse into their basements.
Since the towers had a dual support system(the outside perimeter and the inside core columns that contained all the elevator shafts, it would make sense to weaken the center core columns, or destroy some of them so that the center pulls down on all the floors. Both towers had 6 5000 gallon tanks of water in each of them. Search Denko Mechanical and Kathryn Smith for the missing water. I am not a "government conspiracy" person, but several people did conspire in concert.
it dont take a mechanical engineer to recognize that for the tower to 'pancake' vertically, EVERY support on that floor would need to fail simultaneously--if one side gave even a moment before the others, the weight would tip & collapse across downtown nyc. a precisely simultaneous support failure caused by fuel explosion is beyond unlikely.
when there are known associated press stories saying that the cia meet with bin laden prior to 9/11 & that bush signed an order preventing fbi agents from arresting those they believed were going to carry out the attacks 2+2seems to = 5 for some of ya
the mirrored image is not there to fool you u can see that it is a close up from a differnt angle to show the the explosions are comming from no where else y the fuck if they were trying to fool you y would they then make the mirriored image dissapear
You people are stupid. THERE WERE NO EXPLOSIONS AT THE BASE. The smoke is from the other tower which had already collapsed. They mirrored the image on the video to make it look like they were both still standing. Dumb motherfuckers.
What are you talking about? Mirrored the image to make it appear as if WTC 2 was still standing? Everyone knows WTC 2 was hit second but collapsed first. WTC 2 is not shown in this video clip. Which clip were you watching?
Were you there? Arrogance. How can you say with certainty that there were none? Have you done ANY research at all? Any? Or are you just another opinionated fuck who thinks he knows something?
Who ever made this video knows nothing about JP5 AKA Jet Fuel. Its a very thick fuel almost like jelly, which burns hot enough to melt steel. The way the building was desgined the steel reenforcements were in the middle, so the jet fuel melted them causeing strain and when they melted enough floors started falling from the inside out, which is why you can here it but not see it.
JP-5, Jet Fuel, Kerosene...whatever you decide to call it...burned off in the initial fire ball. The fires inside the building burned for less than an hour. The fires were that of office equipment, not jet fuel. Steel is an excellent conductor of heat.
You don't even know your Celcius from your Farenheit! Kerosene burns at 825C, steel melts at 1500C which is 2800F. Regular office materials can burn at 1300C, steel loses 60% strength by 650C. Facts, those.
I don't see any floors collapsing. Light travels faster than sound, we should see floors collapsing before we hear them collapsing (if indeed these booms are floors collapsing).
the sounds are not explosions, they are the floors falling, about 2 or 3 floors fall and then the whole building goes, nothin u can do about it... gravity does the rest
If the floors fell before the building exploded into pulverized concrete, 1) Where did the pulverized concrete come from if not the floors which already collapsed and 2) if the pulverized concrete came from the collapsing floors, how does ejected pulverized concrete make lower floors collapse? You simply can't have ejecting pulverized concrete from collapsing floors when the building explodes if the floors already collapsed.
1) you answered your own question. Already-pulverized floors.
2) How do you think the floors GOT pulverized? From the impact of the upper floors smashing into the lower floors. The upper floors smash the lower floors, pulverizing a good deal of rock and collapsing the supports of the floor below. Pancaking.
A. Construction-grade concrete does not pulverize under load, it fractures. B. Pulverization requires explosive energy. C. Pulverization began immediately. D. Pulverized material cannot impose force upon anything below it. E. Get your head out of your ass.
so your saying, that in order to puverize the concrete, they would have had to placed explosive charges on EVERY floor, that seems a bit far fetched.
all the concrete was pulverized, the whole building, each of the 220 stories had a 1 acre concrete floor, so beween the 2 buildings 220 acres of concrete, not counting how think it was, because i dont know that for sure
with the excessive weight that hit the floors, i can understand all the concrete being pulverized
Asbestos removal (access to trusses, core beams, elevator shafts), building repair, fireproofing "upgrades", security evacuations, "Power downs", guys walking around to "fix the building"... pre-9/11 security, security agencies controlled by Bush familiy
Yeah... no opportunity to bombs in there. *rolls eyes*
What part of "once concrete turns to powder, it can't fracture the concrete below it" are you having problems with?
Tell me Dr., how much energy do you think those buildings had only aided by gravity, to not only shatter the steel structure completely, but pulverize 99,000 (x2) tons of concrete?
150 kiloton underground nukes.. Dimitri Khalezov explains it all.
Massaricossudo 4 months ago
I may be just a humble Brit, but I get the impression that this guy inielsen76 is the sort who might spend his spare time rollerskating down Broadway stark bollock naked except for a bowtie yelling "they're out there!". Bring back Bellevue.
phaasch 8 months ago
I couldnt hear anything- just pauses in the sound recording. and there was already smoke rising from the base of the tower, anyway, due to WTC2's collapse. If there were explosions, who's to say they were from the base, and not the sound of progressive structural failure from higher up?. This smells of silliness.
phaasch 8 months ago
@phaasch If you can't hear them then you're deaf, stupid or a shill. Just about every HEROIC FDNY FIREFIGHTER that was on the scene has STATED CATEGORICALLY that there were MANY HUGE EXPLOSIONS that occurred - before AND during. Are you calling THESE BRAVE MEN LIARS?
zarathustra2k1 7 months ago
@zarathustra2k1 I am certainly NOT calling anyone from FDNY a liar. All I know is, when I watch this, all I get are sound pauses at the alleged peaks. I can hear the rest just fine, so I'm not deaf. I have a degree, so I guess I'm not that stupid, and I don't know what a shill is. I do know that you are a very rude individual, and if you want people to listen to your theories, rather than just switch off, a little forbearance and basic good manners will go a long way to helping your cause.
phaasch 7 months ago
this is sound enhanced bullshit
davisotj1 10 months ago
IDC if you guys say it was a inside job or bomb planting, As long as you guys know that 3000 PEOPLE DIED IN THE ATTACKS its ok with me
AccessDenied55 10 months ago
this was a inside job PERIOD!! thats all yall people need to know. NIST is hiding something because they were acting suspicious and couldnt stand two secs looking ppl asking questions in the eye and bush?? oh man he choked and studdered so bad you know they hiding something. he couldnt get his words together
Dantedijon 11 months ago
Looks like at explosion 4 a series of explossions is starting.
pater429 1 year ago
Lol, the smoke below is from cars that exploded.
MJ4ever911 1 year ago
All this 911 conspiracy bullshit is a gimmick to sell DVDs, books and buy tickets to speech tours.
SexSteakSoda 1 year ago
barometric bombs
cancanbiker 1 year ago
Google "radioactive mini-nuke fragments"
WTCnucleardemolition 2 years ago
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What a bunch of crap... "base" explosions would not cause the tower to collapse at the point of impact zone. The structure failed there because of the damage from the plane and resulting WEAKENED steel from the fires. No demo... idiots. Keep trying though... lol
trudog2 3 years ago
yer i cant understand how a base explosion makes it fall at the top weakened structure is the reason i hate all these conspiracy crap
shakeyjake1990 3 years ago
Thats because you don't have a clue. Demolition uses explosions at the base to weaken it prior to collapse. Do some reasearch about demolitions and you might get a clue.
blite13 3 years ago 11
@blite13 some have started from the top
sh9683 4 months ago
Monkey Bush and all his friends, who have use the USA as their enterprise for their own porposes, who have killed 3000 of their people for cheating their country and all over the world, they must be judged by law as Slobodan Milošević and Sadam Hossein were judged, judged by an international court for crime against humanity.
How can these devil people be the government of the USA?! All the citizens of the USA are wild people, stupid people.
All are the same.
jesudel 4 years ago 7
HUssein. Not Hossein.
Lack od correct spelling discredits your statement. Anyway, Hussein was judged by an Iraqi court, not an international one. So you got his name wrong AND didn't know who sentenced him.
AlanMooreVids 3 years ago
discredits my statement? xD
kid, if you prefer we can speak spanish, do you know spanish?
what I meant with my "statement" is that monkey Bush and his friends must be judged for crime against humanity by an international court, not that Houssssein were judged by an international court xD. it's clear. you discredit yourself even writing correct english, man.
jesudel 3 years ago
one small problem
those explosions would send out enormous amounts of hot gas and dust clearly distinct from a common gas fire
there is no way as much as a couple sticks of dynomite could go undetected even in the huge plume of smoke simply because itwould blow it away in every direction and not just cause a tremor
finally why 4? one would work best, professionals agree
cyberdemon107 4 years ago
Are you trying to say there were explosives planted in the WTC? I have covered many fires in my time and I can tell you many things in mondern day structures can "explode". Your theroy holds about as much clout as a pile of frog poop!
skyfox1068 4 years ago
yup, those sound anomalies are fairly unusual, especially considering JUST HOW MANY SKYSCRAPERS HAVE FALLEN IN THE LAST DECADE
kajillions of tons of concrete and steel falling at near freefall speed tend to create unusual sounds
or can you disprove that?
cyberdemon107 4 years ago
I'm sorry, I'm new to this conspiracy stuff. The ONLY way I'm really going to completely believe this was an organized conspiracy is if the reports show it as true when I'm 88. I think it takes 75 years for files of National Security to be released. Kennedy's assasination records will come out in the 2020's??? Sorry if I'm mis-informed, I don't follow this stuff religiously.
zanebeima 4 years ago
i've been through a year and hundreds.. i mean hundreds of hours of videos, essays, etc and i have found the quickest up to date way to learn is to skip the BS and hear from the mouths of CIA, FBI architects, engineers , physicist & other credible people at patriotsquestion911 . com and search for The 9/11 Whistle-Blowers Part I here on youtube
singthebeatles 4 years ago
Waiting for Secret Records to be released impies there are secrets! So by this statement you are saying that you agree with the conspirators.
noslaves2008 4 years ago
i don't see how vertical steel columns implode vertically. there were like 47 internal steel columns, they somehow manage to pancake in a vertical fashion. picture that in your head... at free fall speed steel smashes into itself.. OR demolition. 2 + 2 = 4
ccosborn 5 years ago
and actually i though some more, you "could" explain the loud noises as being the floor trusses collapsing, and imnpacting the floors below, they are then eclipsed by the collapse of the whole structure, so the distinct sound is garbled up, just a possabilty
will107 5 years ago
explain to me, how if they used explosives at the base of the tower, only the floors above the impact moved? if there were explosives at the base, naturally the base of the tower would begin to collapse as well, like in controlled demolition, the base gives way and then the top follows, yet with the WTC collapse, we see the oppoisate, tbe base dosent give way untill the building hits the ground
will107 5 years ago
You don't blow the whole base just part. The World Trade Center has been bombed before in the basement, that didn't bring it down.
bootpdx 5 years ago
It would have been really stupid for the perpetrators to use a "conventional-style" demolition from bottom to top, now wouldn't it? That would have fucked their plan to make it look like top-down "progressive collapse". Besides, the twin towers were by far NOT conventional buildings. Bottom up, may have caused them to fall over. Think about it.
You underestimate the capabilities of these criminals.
DarthKazi 5 years ago
You're repeating yourself Joe the shill. Don't you realize you're supposed to provide substantiation if you want people to believe your claims?
PoetryHound 5 years ago
As I said, I researched it. There's no evidence. Your claim that "She tells the entire story" is bogus.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Okay, I reseached it and found out she didn't make a statement before she died. Case closed.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Joe, you are such a shill for White House, acting like a doofus to make people think all 911 CTers are clowns. Enda Clintron did not speak to you planes or jet fuel. That's just the voice you're hearing in your own head. Don't you understand that if you make a claim like this that you have to back it up or no one will believe you? Pathetic.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Ah ha ha! Joe, you clown. You didn't even know she was the person waving from the impact hole. You actually thought she talked to people about jet fuel when in fact she couldn't have because she died on that day & you continue to ridicule her. Oh wait! I know, she sent you mind messages, right? Yes, that's it! So when you have absolutely no evidence to support your crackpot assertions, you just...make it up!
PoetryHound 5 years ago
You are hallucinating. She said nothing to "us" and you are making a mockery of her death. You didn't even know she died on 911 until I told you. When will you stop spreading your hate?
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Oh man, I'm not much into name-calling but you really are a moron, Joe. Edna Clintron died on 911, so there is no way she could say there was no jet fuel. And of COURSE she hasn't read the NIST report. You'll probably try to say you were joking or something, anything to conceal how you just lied about Clintron "saying" anything.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
You haven't argued or tried to refute anything the engineers say because you haven't read anything they've written.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Hey Joe shill, you got your figures messed up if you're citing the summary report. Otherwise, you haven't stated which volume are you referring to. Why am I not surprised that you can't even get a citation right? How much do they pay you to act ignorant?
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Repeat all of my citations? What the hell for? They're all over the place. Stop being lazy and go fetch, you shill. At least you admit that your efforts here are part of your political agenda as opposed to being part of a serious line of inquiry. That explains why you reject the views of engineers, demolition experts, metallurgists, crash site investigators, & seismologists. Besides, why listen to them when you can get all the answers you need by watching videos on YouTube
PoetryHound 5 years ago
I can't stand Rush. Why would you think this has anything to do with personal politics? That's bizarre! You've obviously missed my many SPECIFIC references and leap to the unsubstantiated conclusion that I haven't given them. Typical.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
As usual, you're wrong, Joe. I keep referring to sections of the NIST report, independent papers, photos, FDNY statements, witness statements, news articles, etc. etc. If you haven't seen those, you're blind. But I already know what your response would be to them - they're all "lies" or "fake" & the scientists and witnesses are all liars or are controlled or paid off or something.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
PoetryHound writes: "I keep referring to sections of the NIST report"
Shyam Sunder the lead NIST investigator admitted the jet fuel probably burned out in less than ten minutes.
Office furniture fires caused both Towers to collapse plus WTC 7, leaving nothing standing?
Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition Inc, was present for the cleanup and said, "Yes, hot spots of molten steel were seen in the basements."
Office fires do not melt steel.
onefodderunit 5 years ago
So Joe, the White House is paying you to act like a nitwit in order to discredit conspiracy theorists. It's true because I say so.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
jews
rubycalaber 5 years ago
poetryhound= stupid pro-bush robot. He gets paid to write thousands of commends under several names - all "pro-bush" and 2 unsharpen the logical facts that proove: 911 was a evil inside job. Clever people can see this white house rats here unfocusing the true evidence that bush & bonesmen are guilty of high treason ans mass murder. So you poetryhound: suck cheneys dick and leave us alone here. we don´t need organized govermental brainwash here on youtube!! write commends on CNN and FOXTV.
ozelot 5 years ago
Ozelot, you poor thing. You sure spend a lot of time inventing fantasies about me. I guess that's easier than coming up with evidence to substantiate your baseless assertions. Still haven't found a demo expert that says the towers came down in controlled demos?
PoetryHound 5 years ago
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alltvisanimated 4 years ago
Not - there are photos of the smoke rising and people milling around that corner of the WTC. Photo proof that you make up lies. Go find the photos; it will be like a quest. Very disrespectful to show shoddy research crafted just to make your preconceived point.
knsbeachy 5 years ago
Based on other building demolitions, it would have taken about 10 months to prepare each tower for demolition. The "power shutdown" that took place in just 1 of the towers was for part of 2 days. The other "evacuations" were likewise very brief. Not enough time to prep the towers for demolition. Not by a long shot.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Your soooo full of shit, you go around youtube plastering your denials of obvious evidence, thinking people will take you seriously... flake off.
cybervoyager 5 years ago
Okay, what's the "obvious" evidence and make sure you cite a demolition expert to confirm it. Otherwise, you're the one's that's full of shit, right?
PoetryHound 5 years ago
HOW ABOUT WHEN THE ASBESTOS WAS BEING BLOWN ON, YOU ANNOYING-AS-HELL SMART-ASS? DID THAT TAKE ONLY A FEW DAYS? HOW ABOUT WHEN THE COPPER STEEL COVERS WERE BEING PUT ON THE UPPER STEEL H BEAMS IN 1996? MAYBE WHAT HAPPENED IN THOSE DAYS -AND WHEN COMPANIES WERE TOLD TO MOVE ELSEWHERE IN THE TOWERS- WAS WHEN THEY DID THE FINAL WIRE-UP & CONNECTIONS.
Why did Philip Zelikow have to be present at the Commission hearings? Why did everyone that did speak feel the need to have 1 or 2 lawyers present?!!
WNanette 5 years ago
Do you even know which bldg the asbestos was applied to, and where it was applied? Or is this just another tidbit you randomly throw out with no substantiation? Oh maybe the charges were installed in 1996? Well, that gets Silverstein off the hook, doesn't it? All you do is toss out speculations. Speculation is not evidence. There's no evidence of explosives. None.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Opportunities for smaller operations and main wiring:
weekends, holidays, evening/nights during asbestos placement, during sprinkler retrofitting process, during copper column covers placement (at top of north tower), during periods of empty, vacated company offices
Opportunities for final det cord connections & TELE BLASTERS: during weekend shutdown
WNanette 5 years ago
Unless you have any evidence or witnesses, this is pure speculation. Plus, since the collapses began on the impact floors, there's no way any explosives, detonators, cabling, etc. could have survived the plane crashes, fireballs, etc.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
damn poet, i see you havea little name for yourself over here...
fucktheothercalmo 5 years ago
If you look closely at some of the videos, you can actually see some of the firemen carrying lots of explosives into the buildings, then hear them scream "ALLAHU AKBAR!" before blowing themselves up in smoke (which you can see trailing out the windows seconds later). Most people are too distracted by the hydrogen bombs and decoy drone planes to notice this.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
POETRYHOUND AGAIN TRIES TO UNFOCUS THE HIGHLY LOGIC ARGUMENTS OF CONTROLLED DEMOLITION in this FILM. everbody search "power shutdown 911" & "unusual evacuations before 911" to find out the truth how they brought the explosives into the WTC. they told people that they set up new internet cables - what a farce - they set up the explosives to mass murder their own fellow americans !!! poetryhound go home and kiss cheneys ass.
ozelot 5 years ago
LOL... WELL SAID.
First one to find out who he is & where gets my eternal admiration. Haha!!
WNanette 5 years ago
There wasn't nearly enough time during these alleged episodes to place sufficient explosives. They were days at most. Based on other demos, it would have taken a minimum of 10 months to place sufficient explosives in 1 tower.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
PeeHound:
Opportunities for explosives placement:
Drilling/burning through base columns: weekends, holidays, during any other time of construction in the below-ground levels (welders have to put up 'screen' so in case anyone does come near & look they won't be blinded by the arc)
WNanette 5 years ago
Is there any evidence of any of that happening? Did Port Authority, which was in charge of maintenance & lost staff on 911, report anything unusual over the many months, if not years, this would have taken? Did security staff report anything? Did tenant report anything? This would have had to pre-date the Bush Administration, and if you're talking about asbestos placement, that would take us back to the Carter Admin. All of what you write is pure speculation.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Quite simple to pull off really, all they had to do was have explosives planted in the base of the towers, and on 9/11 they pretended like 4 planes were being hijacked when really they just rerouted them to Pennsylvania, then flew two military jets into the World Trade Center filled with more explosives and shot down all the witnesses on Flight 93 with an F-15 after blowing up the Pentagon with a cruise missile. It was only the world's most intricate and flawlessly executed plan ever, ever.
danieldeibler 5 years ago
I heard that a maintenance worker testified before the 9-11 Commission about the explosives in the basements. He was ignored. The planes must have been some kind of diversion. Looks like a hydrogen bomb going off when the plane-thing plowed through "cracking the top". Even FEMA stated that a nuclear event happened at the wtc site on 9-11. Who the hell knows. But you can be dam sure that this was no "PAN-CAKE COLLAPSE". That is Total BS!!
2Greeneyez 5 years ago
i dont see why you guys are fighting so hard for the governement, if the government is so innocent why wont they hold a debate about it? simple as that, they are hiding things from you. even unfire proofed steel wont melt until about 3000 degrees F (look it up seriously) and jet fuel only burns at 2000. and if you people think it was only the fire that cause the collapse then how come the one that got hit second fell first?
Drabgrey 5 years ago
if that is the north tower... wouldent the smoke at the bottom be from the collapse of the south tower?
chickenfarmer82 5 years ago
It is the South tower.
lnielsen76 5 years ago
Exactly, and also, don't you think at least one of the hundreds of emergency workers and/or cameramen at the base of the tower would've seen something you stupid liberal fucks.
shspunkrockr 5 years ago
People did hear stuff. It's all on video. Watch more videos and you will see people being interviewed saying they heard explosions well before the collapse.
JayZoop 5 years ago
Yes, people definitely heard explosions and what they thought were explosions. Many things cause explosions in a fire. But no evidence of explosives was found.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Why was that black guy's skin burnt & hanging off of him? Why were so many down in the parking garages blown? What about the freight elevator doors?
You need to spend an hour with Willie Rodriguez.
WNanette 5 years ago
Why this? What that? Why do you believe there was a government conspiracy with explosive demolitions when all you have are questions and no evidence? You haven't even read the reports that answer your questions. You dismiss them without even reading them. What an intellecual.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
poetryhound: WE ALL CAN SEE TROUGH YOU ! YOU ARE A WHITEHOUSE-FUZZY - UNFOCUSING THE EVIDENCE THAT THE OFFICIAL STORY STINKS TO HELL !!!!
everybody search "depleted uranium" and "gulf war syndrom" here on youtube to find more evidence that the USA is hitchhicked by the satanic cult SKULLS & BONES.
The new world order is build on our all skulls and surounded by an ozean of our peoples blood !!!! Poetryhound is guilty of supporting mass murder and crimes against humanity.
ozelot 5 years ago
I hereby declare ozelot guilty of being a Nazi Mossad fascist Byzantine Klingon spy. I don't need any evidence to prove it. It's true because I say so. Ozelot was sent by the White House to act like an ignoramus so that eveyone would think all conspiracy theorists are dumb blockheads. We can all see through your tactics, ozelot.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
POETRYHOUND OUR UNFOCUSING ROBOT IS A DICKY DICK LICKER. Poetryhound we all can track your thousand stupid attempts here to unfocus logical evidence of a dangerous regime sitting in the white house. YOUR TACTIC IS SO STUPID AS PEOPLE CAN SEE MY UPLOADS - WHERE IS YOUR UPLOADS ???? ...and about NAZI: Prescot Bush sent millions to THYSSEN in the 1930thies to strenghen ADOLF HITLER and his GESTAPOmen. So the NAZIs are sitting closer to the white house than to my bananaplantage here in costa rica.
ozelot 5 years ago
Okay, what's the logical evidence you speak of, ozelot? I must have missed it.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
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alltvisanimated 4 years ago
Can one of you conspiracy fuckwits explain to me why there were "explosions" at the base of the tower, and yet it was the top of the tower that collapsed?
sugarshane1985 5 years ago
Sure. The base explosion would have taken out the basement so that when the buildings were demolished, they would have somewhere to accumulate themselves. After all, that is the object of demolish, to have buildings collapse into their basements.
lnielsen76 5 years ago 5
Fuck me, that's priceless - why did the top collapse first!! What did you think might happen dumbass, it would collapse upwards?
qefghlmz 5 years ago
Since the towers had a dual support system(the outside perimeter and the inside core columns that contained all the elevator shafts, it would make sense to weaken the center core columns, or destroy some of them so that the center pulls down on all the floors. Both towers had 6 5000 gallon tanks of water in each of them. Search Denko Mechanical and Kathryn Smith for the missing water. I am not a "government conspiracy" person, but several people did conspire in concert.
springvalleyVIDEO 5 months ago
it dont take a mechanical engineer to recognize that for the tower to 'pancake' vertically, EVERY support on that floor would need to fail simultaneously--if one side gave even a moment before the others, the weight would tip & collapse across downtown nyc. a precisely simultaneous support failure caused by fuel explosion is beyond unlikely.
jubileeshine 5 years ago
when there are known associated press stories saying that the cia meet with bin laden prior to 9/11 & that bush signed an order preventing fbi agents from arresting those they believed were going to carry out the attacks 2+2seems to = 5 for some of ya
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PkofPk 5 years ago
the mirrored image is not there to fool you u can see that it is a close up from a differnt angle to show the the explosions are comming from no where else y the fuck if they were trying to fool you y would they then make the mirriored image dissapear
supersix06 5 years ago
Why don't the Dems grow some nuts and CALL THE REPUGS out as trea0nous criminals for 9II?!!!
http://www.911truthseekers.org /modules/weblog/
INSTEAD:
$600,000 was spent on 9II investigation.
$40 million was spent on Clinton's BJ...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248
deisys 5 years ago
Uhm because they're both working for the same people? This goes much deeper than dems and repubs I'm sorry to say.
p0llenp0ny 5 years ago
You people are stupid. THERE WERE NO EXPLOSIONS AT THE BASE. The smoke is from the other tower which had already collapsed. They mirrored the image on the video to make it look like they were both still standing. Dumb motherfuckers.
shspunkrockr 5 years ago
What are you talking about? Mirrored the image to make it appear as if WTC 2 was still standing? Everyone knows WTC 2 was hit second but collapsed first. WTC 2 is not shown in this video clip. Which clip were you watching?
lnielsen76 5 years ago
Were you there? Arrogance. How can you say with certainty that there were none? Have you done ANY research at all? Any? Or are you just another opinionated fuck who thinks he knows something?
whateverbitches1 5 years ago
Who ever made this video knows nothing about JP5 AKA Jet Fuel. Its a very thick fuel almost like jelly, which burns hot enough to melt steel. The way the building was desgined the steel reenforcements were in the middle, so the jet fuel melted them causeing strain and when they melted enough floors started falling from the inside out, which is why you can here it but not see it.
piercewma 6 years ago
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
JP-5, Jet Fuel, Kerosene...whatever you decide to call it...burned off in the initial fire ball. The fires inside the building burned for less than an hour. The fires were that of office equipment, not jet fuel. Steel is an excellent conductor of heat.
lnielsen76 6 years ago
jet fuel, kerosene, burns at roughly 900 degrees... steel melts at 2800 degrees. Go fuck your hat.
arresteddamien 5 years ago
You don't even know your Celcius from your Farenheit! Kerosene burns at 825C, steel melts at 1500C which is 2800F. Regular office materials can burn at 1300C, steel loses 60% strength by 650C. Facts, those.
Mancman 5 years ago
lmfao at regular officer materials can burn at 1300C jesus i will be so carefull the next time i set fire to a piece of paper next time haha idiot
pooridge 5 years ago
It does'nt sound like explosions...it just sound like floors collasping.
TuffNuts 6 years ago
I don't see any floors collapsing. Light travels faster than sound, we should see floors collapsing before we hear them collapsing (if indeed these booms are floors collapsing).
lnielsen76 6 years ago
THANK YOU lnielsen!!! Exactly my point!
ibjeepin 5 years ago
the sounds are not explosions, they are the floors falling, about 2 or 3 floors fall and then the whole building goes, nothin u can do about it... gravity does the rest
chlorine 6 years ago
If the floors fell before the building exploded into pulverized concrete, 1) Where did the pulverized concrete come from if not the floors which already collapsed and 2) if the pulverized concrete came from the collapsing floors, how does ejected pulverized concrete make lower floors collapse? You simply can't have ejecting pulverized concrete from collapsing floors when the building explodes if the floors already collapsed.
lnielsen76 6 years ago
1) you answered your own question. Already-pulverized floors.
2) How do you think the floors GOT pulverized? From the impact of the upper floors smashing into the lower floors. The upper floors smash the lower floors, pulverizing a good deal of rock and collapsing the supports of the floor below. Pancaking.
singedrac 5 years ago
Yes we are all aware of the pancaking theory and it doesn't take a lot of brains to know that pancaking is the goal of demolition.
lnielsen76 5 years ago
A. Construction-grade concrete does not pulverize under load, it fractures. B. Pulverization requires explosive energy. C. Pulverization began immediately. D. Pulverized material cannot impose force upon anything below it. E. Get your head out of your ass.
DarthKazi 5 years ago
so your saying, that in order to puverize the concrete, they would have had to placed explosive charges on EVERY floor, that seems a bit far fetched.
all the concrete was pulverized, the whole building, each of the 220 stories had a 1 acre concrete floor, so beween the 2 buildings 220 acres of concrete, not counting how think it was, because i dont know that for sure
with the excessive weight that hit the floors, i can understand all the concrete being pulverized
will107 5 years ago
Asbestos removal (access to trusses, core beams, elevator shafts), building repair, fireproofing "upgrades", security evacuations, "Power downs", guys walking around to "fix the building"... pre-9/11 security, security agencies controlled by Bush familiy
Yeah... no opportunity to bombs in there. *rolls eyes*
DarthKazi 5 years ago
What part of "once concrete turns to powder, it can't fracture the concrete below it" are you having problems with?
Tell me Dr., how much energy do you think those buildings had only aided by gravity, to not only shatter the steel structure completely, but pulverize 99,000 (x2) tons of concrete?
DarthKazi 5 years ago