You just need to stop talking and learn, the true understanding of the bible is before you. We keep the Commandment GOD told us to keep, through His SON. You have been fooled by satan.
1 John 2:1-2 KJV
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
i find all these sects false... they all place people under condemnation and the law.. Jesus fulfilled the law.. with His death... grace now abounds... do you understand what grace is...
@MrLoudmouthspeaker So what your saying is the scripture Rev 14:12 means nothing? I could honestly careless what your opinion is, now if you have a scripture to state what "I'm" saying is false then bring forth. To answer your question about grace, Christ is Grace, when you read Hebrews the 8th Chapter it shows you that the LAW (Sacrificing of Meats, Drinks, etc) could not bring us unto perfection. We now live under Christ(Grace) which is the propitiation for our sins(Against the LAW)
@ABBAYAEL in short i live in Gods grace i an not under the law of sin and death... i am a born again christian filled with the spirit.. the bible tells us that the law cant save us...
@MrLoudmouthspeaker Notice you have not given any proof that state your cause. The bible states that you have to keep the Laws and Faith in Christ. You must read the bible, and keep the commandments and faith in Christ in order to get the understanding. Period. Psalm 111:10.
You Refuse to give scripture to prove your point so I will end the converstation at this time.
@ABBAYAEL You should know that you cant save your self... salvation cant be baught nor earnt... to brake one law means you break them all.... Jesus has fullfilled the old law.. we are now under grace... God provides us with the way.. the truth and the life.... You cant please God with your own human effort.... you cant say hey God... i did all this ...let me go to heaven.... You rely on your own ability in stead of God...
@MrLoudmouthspeaker Your own words testify against you, this is why you refuse to show scripture to prove your point. Your whole doctrine is ended with this one verse. Good bye
@ABBAYAEL so let me ask you - Are you KEEPING all the commandment... are you striving in your own strenght to do this... what happens if you fail to keep the comandments... will you go to hell...
@ABBAYAEL hi, tell me why these sects mainly use the old testament for their scripture... and secondly.. always refer to the "Law"... i would ask you ..do you live under the old testament law or do you live under Gods grace....
remembering that the law reminds us of sin and death ..where grace sets us free from the law... what do you live under?
I seen my self teaching on the video you posted. Anyhow I can agree and say brothers Always say that they have "the truth." I think thats just something that trickeled down from the Old School. Im one who says all truth is in the Scriptures, its not contained in one School, camp, or church. We are all memeber of one body trying to find our we back to being a family. 1C 1:10 . Romans 12:5 So we, [being] many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another SHALAWAM AHCH.
Ephesians 2:11 (King James Version) 11Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
We were living like the other Nations, therefore we were called the other nations! A whole lesson was done on this subject. Watch Jews and Gentiles by Nathanyel7.
Hosea 1:9-10 (King James Version) 9Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God. 10Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
This is where we are being told we are not the children of Israel! "GENTILES"
Num 9:14 ‘And when a stranger sojourns among you, then he shall perform the Passover of יהוה. He shall do so according to the law of the Passover and according to its right-ruling. You have one law, both for the stranger and the native of the land.’
Num 15:16 ‘One Torah and one right-ruling is for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you.’ ”
Lev 19:33 ‘And when a stranger sojourns with you in your land, do not oppress him.
Lev 19:34 ‘Let the stranger who dwells among you be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself. For you were strangers in the land of Mitsrayim. I am יהוה your Elohim.
@yahissalvation Again, what scripture says anything about being spiritual Israel? You dont understand who the gentiles Paul is speaking are. They are the Scattered Israelites living like the other nations! James 1:1-2
@ABBAYAEL No. Gentile means OTHER nations. That means other than the Yisraelite nation. May friend.
2Es 1:24 What shall I do unto thee, O Jacob? thou, Juda, wouldest not obey me: I will turn me to other nations, and unto those will I give my name, that they may keep my statutes.
@yahissalvation John 7:35 (King James Version) 35Then said the Jews among themselves, Whither will he go, that we shall not find him? will he go unto the dispersed among the Gentiles, and teach the Gentiles?
Why did the Jews refer to the scattered Israelites as Gentiles? Because they were being called Gentiles! The Israelites were called gentiles just as it was prophisied by the prophets of old!
@ABBAYAEL You need to read Alfred Edershims book The Life and TImes of Jesus The messiah. And learn what the "dispersion" was and what it meant to be a "hellenized" Jew, Also Hosea is refering to the tribe of Dan, who were adopted into Javen, and wound up on the other side of the caucuss mountains, forgetting over centuries who they were, becoming pagans, and getting converted back later, called Khazars.
Probably from G1486; a race (as of the same habit), that is, a tribe; specifically a foreign ►(non-Jewish)◄ one (usually by implication pagan): - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.
If you don't see it now. Then you either never will. Have other motives. Or have yet to see it. Shalom.
Rom 11:13 For I speak to you, the gentiles, inasmuch as I am an emissary to the gentiles, I esteem my service,
Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, have been grafted in among them, and came to share the root and fatness of the olive tree,
Rom 11:18 do not boast against the branches. And if you boast, remember: you do not bear the root, but the root bears you!
1Pe 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a set-apart nation, a people for a possession, that you should proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvellous light,
1Pe 2:10 who once were not a people, but now the people of Elohim; who had not obtained compassion, but now obtained compassion.
{Joe 2:32} “And it shall be that everyone who calls on the Name of יהוה YAHUWAH shall be delivered. For on Mount Tsiyon and in Yerushalayim there shall be an escape as יהוה has said, and among the survivors whom יהוה calls.
{Joh 10:16} “And other sheep I have which are not of this fold – I have to bring them as well, and they shall hear My voice, and there shall be one flock, one shepherd.
SATAN is the Author of Confusion=To Hide the TRUTH Jerome in Rome 400ad Chopped up the L-70 from 49 books into 66 then Scrambled the Books like SCRABLED EGGS created the LATIN VuLGATE
Read the History of he Bible for FREE at the Late Dr Martin site, "ASKELM"
You can order a bible back in the 49 orginal books at Amazon books, Fred Coulter Bible.
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@deadadelta You can go to originalbibleproject and read some of Dr Tabors Translation He has 40 years working with Old Greek
The Alexzandrinus,Vatacanius, Ephrem, Sinacaitus, Lenin Grad Codex, their are 5 Konine Old Greek bibles that have survived each have 49 books except one
L-70 also called Septiguient does not even have Gods real name in it, Long running Debate at Harvard & Yale thier is two creation stories in L-70
Dr Tabors Translation TEB bible Reads more Solem this is foretol
@1Waddup Hey Friend, not to get into an argument but I was just reading your comment and was just wondering how you support your argument knowing that Jehova lord God and jesus are all pagan names titles whatever?? just curious that's all
I knew I read it about the head covered thing....smh...i checked dat out wit GOC, and da other scriptures your quoting I checked dat with GMS and others ahch.
hmm..thats why i only trust the gocc. and recently i came upon men of god12 and the truth seekers, they seem legit. i pay close attention to what they teach and how they are.
@kingcody2414 here here I started off listening to gocc but now have no respect for what's his name? As I went to here him speak in Walsall in the united kingdom...man that geeza totally distorted Amos 9:12 to try to prove a point he was making to a young brother, u can watch it if u you tube reasoning with the bubble eyed black fish and his renegade teaching...sorry about the title I never put it up...Shalom
@MrSoldierb yes, I call goc" the one verse church",because they never deal with scriptures in full context,and that richard shepard character has his own hidden agenda,THE MOST HIGH will deal with him and others with thier foolish doctrine scattering the flock.Shalawm
I agree with most of what you say.The piece about the head being covered goes deeper than the literal meaning.The head means light.So what it is saying is when you teach,don't cover the light.Let all of it shine.Most of the the Bible is not to be taken literally.We must understand the metaphors to extract the Power from the Word.
I say DAMN near not of the Israelite Churches is teaching the truth OR if any of them are I don't see any of them following the laws themselves.Like example,your not suppose to buy on the Sabbath YET I've seen on NUMEROUS occasions where brothers were out their teaching & would buy food/water WELL after the Sun was down,or the ICUPK camp talking bout ties is 20% when they know DAMN well the Bible says 10%.
Abbayael you went off when saying that all nations can not recieve salvation. That is a bold face lie taught by Israelunited in Christ. Revelation 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
Sin is a transgression of the law, and all sin have a judgement. Is there a judgement for not wearing fringes, or is there a judgement for going against what the fringes are supposed to remind you of which are the commandments. We went into captivity wearing fringes. Finally, ANY group that teaches that all nations CAN'T be saved, FLEE from them. It is false!
@yahshuahdotcom where in the scriptures does it say all nations shall be saved?? Before you respond please read Jeremiah 25, John 11:50-52, Acts 5:31, Matthew 1:21, Matthew 19:28, Luke 22:28-30, Nehemiah 7:61-65 and Ezra 2:59-63.
Hold on Bro, I was feelin you until you started talikn about head coverings. You did not properly interpret that. Please go back and study that. He's talking to the church of Corinth about HEADSHIP while using their head covering custom to illustrate.
Don't tell me to stay on subject when everytime I mention this verse (Lev. 19: 27) your response is "Yah told us he would cause us to eat flesh".......THAT never was the subject......
You seem to be very focused on the difference between "baldness" and " utterly bald"....attempting to admonish me....yet you can't seem to understand your inserting words into verse 27 that aren't there. When you brothas teach this you say "you can't cut the hair on the corners of your beard or your head"....well cut, shave and like are NOT even 1 of definition listed.....NOT 1.....I ask you to show me one place where "round" and "mar" are used to denote cutting or shaving. Then I will be quiet.
The Commandment is Clear, This is why I did this video!!!!
II Esdras 7:
21. For God hath given strait commandment to such as came, what they should do to live, even as they came, and what they should observe to avoid punishment.
Sirach 32:
17. A sinful man will not be reproved, but findeth an excuse according to his will.
this guy is a joke!!! his group teaches the so called white man was once dark from Japhet!!! total maddness!!!! there are no future or current prophecies against Japhet. The Bible only mentions destruction against Edom, Idumea, Edomites etc....
Rev 7:9 ¶ After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
Truth is Freely given. Once someone claims it originates from them, it gets taken away. Truth is YHWH & Yahushuah.
John 14:6
Yahushuah saith unto him, I am THE WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
So you want to come closer to the father, you don't need a church. What we need is fellowship & people to be gathered together. We don't need to follow man, follow YHWH & Yahushuah freely in truth, without a gun to your head.
What are the fruits of the spirit? But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23
(Kindness, gentleness and peace are KEY)
Then May (Yahawah) , Yeshua Hamashiach continue to guide you and bless your path.
I was part of the 12 tribes and left because I could not find this. But you are right about the spilts. If your church lacks the fruits of the spirit, then its off. But if your church believes in the fruits of the spirits.
NONE of them are teaching the whole truth! Read revelations chapter 1-3. None of the churches are keeping the whole truth - there was not a single one that Messaiah didn't have a problem with.
However, that doesn't mean that some individuals are not keeping the whole truth.
PS - I disagree with your beliefs - other nations CAN be saved. There are "other sheep", strangers that attach to Israel.
Man, whenever in doubt, google search "Strong"s Concordance" and whatever book in scriptures you wanna check. It can shed alot of light on stick issues.......like this brotha in this vid saying you must have beard and can't and can't shave or line ya hair up......FALSE. That law was only for the Levites and when it says (Lev. 19: 27) don't round the corners of your head or mar the edge of your beard its not talkin about a haircut. Look it up in the Concordance.
@NewWorldDestroyer In the book of Job when he shaved it was "not" utter baldness.
In Micah They had fallen off into paganism, following the nations customs so there for Yah told them to shave utterly bald.
"would the Most High break his own laws " ?
Well in Jeremiah 19:9 The Most High says...I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters... We need to know the spirit of whats being said.
There are 2 major problem with what your saying.......1) Your saying that somehow Yah began to distort his own law because WE fell into paganism. 2) And this most important of all, you can't show me ANYWHERE in the scriptures where a law was given about a haircut except, if your Levite.......There is NO law pertaining to the House of Israel that states that. The Levites had there own law. Eating flesh is one of the curses.......where does it say a haircut is a curse? NO WHERE
@NewWorldDestroyer No one said you can't get a hair cut, your missing the point, you shall not destroy your corners, you can have a hair cut with out cutting off your corners. If you need to, look at other translations if it's to hard to understand the kjv.
Ok, even if you wanted to say that, there still no law against it. You said Job didn't shave completely.......well show me where it says that? Strike, is a violent action and you brought up consume but thats not the word used in the law.......but again no where in the definition does it say "cut"........these were not primitive men who hit there head with objects in order to shave.......they had razors just like us. Lining your hair up isn't by any stretch, a "violent action".
@NewWorldDestroyer Well there is a hebrew word that means complete utter baldness that word was not used in Job, and you need to broaden you understanding on violence & strike. Again a collegiate dictionary will tell you that one strikes the hair with a comb, and violence is exertion of "any" physical force even the force applied to ones head by clippers or a razor, altering or casting off the hair.
@NewWorldDestroyer Broaden your understanding bro. Lining up your hair is very much striking off the corners and violence being done to your head it not hard to understand, unless you look at it narrowly minded.
@yshuaknesset Again, if thats the case then Job would have sinned for shaving his head, period. Yah never commanded us to eat flesh, rather he stated that would be a punishment for violation of the law........no such verse exist in regards to hair.......in Micah, Yah is not telling to go be like the heathen, thats crazy. He was telling us to mourn.......just like Job did.....if this wasn't so, you would have somewhere to take me that states someone violated this law and was punished for it..
Bruh, the question was never about eating flesh??? Plus, as I said before this was a punishment (Deut. 28 53-58). Now show me where Yah said, or ever chastised anyone for breaking this "hair law".......just one example. You can't have it both ways.....1st you say, the Micah verse is about us turning pagan so Yah commanded us to break his Law but then you say "How would Job have sinned for shaving his head".......so its ok your saying to shave your head with whatever?
@NewWorldDestroyer What ??? Go read what we said carefully. You are very much missing the point. And it looks like your doing it intentionally. I am talking about the horses head and you are concentrating on the horses tail.
We gave proof about the word "round" & "mar" and your scripture comparison, is not proving your point. Read our comments thoroughly please and then respond.
@NewWorldDestroyer That's like saying show me where YAH punished you for not wearing fringes or for putting a mussel on an ox will he treading the corn!!! That's good, believe what you want bro.
There is a clear difference between the two......see I can show you the fringes law but I can't show you a place where Yah commanded us to break this law. Thats totally different than what your saying......that we were given a Law that Yah then came back and commanded us to violate.....but anyway we good.....
@NewWorldDestroyer Can we eat the flesh of our children ??? But Yah said he will cause us to do it. But any how a man or woman can shave but they can not destroy the "corners" and every time you read about shaving for morning it don't mean "utterly bald" where the corners have been destroyed. alright then... moving on now...
@NewWorldDestroyer Dude you don't even remember what you were writing in the beginning do you ??? Unless I missed it, but what text do we read where Yah "commands" us to shave utterly bald ?
"You" wrote "strike off flesh" that was a myth,
also it will do you well to understand the spirit or figurative language of Bible text . And if you stay on one subject and stop jumping around, reasoning could be productive.
I know exactly what I wrote....thats why I said correct me if Im wrong, REMEMBER? So take the personal aspect out of what you saying. Ok, I accept that "skin" is not referenced in every concordance.........but what you fail to accept is the words cut shave trim and the like are NOT mentioned. It should read....
Lev. 19: 27
Ye shall not "strike with more or less violence" the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou "decay, destroy, or injure" the corners of thy beard.
@NewWorldDestroyer Again you can shave your head without destroying your corners, it did not say that Job was utterly bald, nor that he struck of his corners, Period.
Further more you admit the priest couldn't shave bald. but in Amos 8:10 it said Yah will put Baldness upon "EVERY" HEAD. EVEN THE PRIEST ???? You need to understand the language and spirit of the WORD of YAH .
I like that you brought out Amos 8 :10 because it witnesses to what I said before.......that shaving your head was not a violation of the law but rather a sign of mourning.
Proof of what? Neither "round" or "mar" mean cut or shave.....totally different than whats said in Lev. 21. And if your as schooled as you imply, you would be able to show me what I asked you to show me, Yah's word or chastisement. Horses head.......miss me with the nonsense. And you know like I know, that every time you see the words "every" "evermore" or "forever" it doesn't always mean, all in compassing or everlasting. So whatever, we agree to disagree.........
@NewWorldDestroyer We use the kjv and with some research, the word "round" fits the point, of going round about your extremities, striking off, the "corners" not the "skin". And understanding the range of the word strike is also helpful in this text.
@NewWorldDestroyer Your missing the point again, I don't see any distortion in the law, but never the less it says ..."I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons".... So we must understand the language and the intent of the word of YAH.
TheBOCC1000 teach that law! They used to be 12tribes. But Nate sowed discord and caused a split thru his pride. Got tapes to prove all things that are being said
Please Post the Video or Audio you have to prove this. I'll be waiting....Please don't let this be one of those things that never get proven,other wise I'm going to say that your a liar based on the fruits that have been shown by the elders of my congregation.All the commandments are taught and stressed in our congregation,All Praises to the Father!Are you teaching?Who are you?Whats your point in bringing up the past. Also, how could our church be based on a lie if were in Christ?
This vid is true. But sadly your church is based on a lie. Kani, Barakshar, Nathanyel taught that we dont have to keep the laws in 12tribes. Led many astray, blaspheming the Spirit.
I see some bitterness in you concerning the video that Elder Kani made about Zayan.Was the video incorrect?Does your church teach to endure to the end?What happens if you give up and go back into the world and die?These are pretty elementary if you ask me but it seems to be getting underneath your skin. What church are you apart of? Who are you? But I do have a opened mind, at the end of this let the truth be known if its of the MOST HIGH. I will be waiting on the edification.
ABBAYAEL, do you believe the laws regarding the Levitical sacrifices still apply? If the answer is no, what does this mean for your understanding of Matthew 5:18?
Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom ans2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
it's always good to ask instead of assuming....or we may break a law trying to get others to follow a law...
Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Shalom Brother Rawchaa!!!! No assumptions here ahch, Ive seen with mine own eyes in numerous videos old and new that you all dont wear them. Now just because you may have some stored somewhere does not negate the fact that your not wearing them and that you are in the midst of sin.
38Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue: 39And it shall be unto you for a fringe, that ye may look upon it, and remember all the commandments of the LORD, and do them ; and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring:
You did not address the fact that it said the BORDERS in other words the edges not the entire garment. There should be only 4 in each corner of the garment laced with blue. I do not see your church doing this either ahch so "THIS IS NOT A PART TIME THING!
REPENT!" Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Actually your incorrect brother, the borders are at the end of your garments and the ribband of blue goes on top of the fringe like you seen in my video. But if you are wearing the ones your thinking of I wont contend with you.....but remember, that is how the jewISH people wear them.
Again, I think that you ignored the fact that we have made and wore fringes and do not tell people they shouldn't wear fringes brother..but I guess you just need a forum to chastise correct.....please study the scriptures posted....We've been making fringes and teaching the scriptures on fringes before you were born.
Last video i saw of you, you were teaching that Israel needs to jump on some 747 planes and get out of here. LOL, That was it for me. Gathering of Christ is FALSE.
From H3670; an edge or extremity; specifically (of a bird or army) a wing, (of a garment or bed clothing) a flap, (of the earth) a quarter, (of a building) a pinnacle: - + bird, border, corner, end, feather [-ed], X flying, + (one an-) other, overspreading, X quarters, skirt, X sort, uttermost part, wing ([-ed]).
P.4 And each fringe should laced or wrapped with blue. SO that is kinda what I mean we all not going to get it right BUT if we come together and help each other do the will of the Father that is what counts and help each other stay out that lake of fire.
Yes they do but if you are not right in the inside why put on your fringes? When you get right in the inside then put on your fringes as a reminder but yes they tech both
So why dont they wear them? If Im mistaken then I apologize ahead of time. But I have never seen any brother from that church teach that or wear them. please send me a video where there wearing fringes.
P. 1 You never heard them teach on them because you would have to attend their classes to hear such a thing and since you attend another church I would assume that is why. As far as wearing them I never seen them wearing them either but never teach against it or told their members not to because the question has been brought up. Also we are to wear mitre's since we are all now priests of The Most High and I dont think I have seen your church do this as well if they have then I also apologize
P.2 Besides you are to wear fringes on the four borders of the garment with blue not the entire garment. It is to be a personal reminder to keep the commandments when the people you teach concentrate more on your outer garment then the words of The Most High to ME there might just a little problem with that. I guess there is nothing wrong with being flamboyant if you want to be seen.
P.3 Oh one more thing about keeping the fringes I totally agree BUT there should only be 4 located in each corner of the garment...Num 15:38 Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue:
apology accepted..The key is you never seen. We have tailored and wore fringes and have them in the closet. They're worn but you haven't seen them...but here's the fringes we sure you've witnessed.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
the Pharisee's wore fringes then and wear them til this day....
Matt 23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
We care less if their seen by men.
Our brother have made Israel and laughingstock amongst the nations, so we purposely wear white as a means of distinguishing ourselves so the gospel will not be hindered. no more guilt by association. the Word stands...
Now are we going to keep the Commandments and faith in Christ as ISRAELITES. or you going to cause more confusion in Israel. Do you not realize that your defending sin? The MOST HIGH told us to keep his commandments with haste....so if your about righteousness why are we having this conversation, it should of been a simple yes we are commanded to wear them and thats it. MEN are watching you Rawchaa and learning from you brother, be careful. Matt 15:17-19
but it can also be directed to you also. you're a man pleaser abbayael. u sop up EVERYTHING Nathanyaahlagah puts on your plate. You also have much envy in your heart just like him too. you'd get away from that dude if you knew what The Lord has in store for him.
Thats a whole lot of talking without any justification brother. What sin is being commited? It sounds like your the one with the envy, matter of fact whats your name? how do you know me or Nathanyel? Did you watch the video? What did I say that was incorrect, and come with the scripture, none of the jaw jacking.
We aint worried The Most high said what we are doing is foolishness.
1Cr 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe
1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Cr 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
Our camp & others camps in the USa,Canada,UK are family. We are not clicks. Are jealous because we are close?lol. Who cares about what Esau's thinks. His a-- is grass real soon.
I think this brother is telling the truth. Too many Hebrew Israelite teachings are confusing & looks more institutionalized RELIGIOUS RITES OF PASSAGE. He has brought out some EXCELLENT points in this video series. Great vid & Shabat Shalom Ahki.
In your vdeo i saw me and my brother teaching the word. All the differant camps you are showing are you saying they are not teaching what's right? Or you just using them for examples on how do you tell who is right
I used those videos as a parrallel to simulate a brother or a sister browsing youtube and trying to figure out who's right and who's wrong. Not to single out any church. Now IF your church is not teaching the commandments as a whole, my advice to a new brother or sister is to steer away, the ones thats going to have the most understanding are the ones with the faith and keeping of the commandments and not sparing one, thats who you should be learning from. Does your church teach Num 15:38?
Brother you are assuming my church is teaching against the commandments, you are lying on people that's what you are doing. The scripture's say do not speak about things you have no knowledge of !!!!! We promote The Most High and his anointed son Mashayach Yahawashi and not men. So you need to stop telling lies............................
Brother I didnt mention your church, so either your church isnt teaching some of the laws that I brought upor your mistakening the beginning of the video to be churches that are not in order. That was never said, watch the videos in the entirety.
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
100% kan
TH3RIPPA 1 month ago
You just need to stop talking and learn, the true understanding of the bible is before you. We keep the Commandment GOD told us to keep, through His SON. You have been fooled by satan.
1 John 2:1-2 KJV
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
ABBAYAEL 3 months ago
i find all these sects false... they all place people under condemnation and the law.. Jesus fulfilled the law.. with His death... grace now abounds... do you understand what grace is...
the law can not save you
MrLoudmouthspeaker 4 months ago
Your own words will testify against you, you do err not knowing the scriptures. Grace Abounds? Really, you dont understand what grace is.
King James Version (KJV)
Romans 6:1-2
1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that GRACE may ABOUND?
2GOD FORBID. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
ABBAYAEL 4 months ago
@MrLoudmouthspeaker So what your saying is the scripture Rev 14:12 means nothing? I could honestly careless what your opinion is, now if you have a scripture to state what "I'm" saying is false then bring forth. To answer your question about grace, Christ is Grace, when you read Hebrews the 8th Chapter it shows you that the LAW (Sacrificing of Meats, Drinks, etc) could not bring us unto perfection. We now live under Christ(Grace) which is the propitiation for our sins(Against the LAW)
ABBAYAEL 4 months ago
@ABBAYAEL in short i live in Gods grace i an not under the law of sin and death... i am a born again christian filled with the spirit.. the bible tells us that the law cant save us...
MrLoudmouthspeaker 4 months ago
@MrLoudmouthspeaker Notice you have not given any proof that state your cause. The bible states that you have to keep the Laws and Faith in Christ. You must read the bible, and keep the commandments and faith in Christ in order to get the understanding. Period. Psalm 111:10.
You Refuse to give scripture to prove your point so I will end the converstation at this time.
ABBAYAEL 4 months ago
@ABBAYAEL You should know that you cant save your self... salvation cant be baught nor earnt... to brake one law means you break them all.... Jesus has fullfilled the old law.. we are now under grace... God provides us with the way.. the truth and the life.... You cant please God with your own human effort.... you cant say hey God... i did all this ...let me go to heaven.... You rely on your own ability in stead of God...
MrLoudmouthspeaker 3 months ago
@MrLoudmouthspeaker Your own words testify against you, this is why you refuse to show scripture to prove your point. Your whole doctrine is ended with this one verse. Good bye
Revelation 14:12
King James Version (KJV) 12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
ABBAYAEL 3 months ago
@ABBAYAEL so let me ask you - Are you KEEPING all the commandment... are you striving in your own strenght to do this... what happens if you fail to keep the comandments... will you go to hell...
MrLoudmouthspeaker 3 months ago
do you live under the law or grace
MrLoudmouthspeaker 4 months ago
@MrLoudmouthspeaker
Revelation 14:12
King James Version (KJV) 12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
ABBAYAEL 4 months ago
@ABBAYAEL hi, tell me why these sects mainly use the old testament for their scripture... and secondly.. always refer to the "Law"... i would ask you ..do you live under the old testament law or do you live under Gods grace....
remembering that the law reminds us of sin and death ..where grace sets us free from the law... what do you live under?
MrLoudmouthspeaker 4 months ago
Off-Topic:
Place a shade over the window next time. The Sun light is causing you to appear dark cause the camera is focusing on the window.
RINGO4LIFE 8 months ago
@RINGO4LIFE Yeah, this is a really old video of mine. I may end up doing another one.
ABBAYAEL 8 months ago
I seen my self teaching on the video you posted. Anyhow I can agree and say brothers Always say that they have "the truth." I think thats just something that trickeled down from the Old School. Im one who says all truth is in the Scriptures, its not contained in one School, camp, or church. We are all memeber of one body trying to find our we back to being a family. 1C 1:10 . Romans 12:5 So we, [being] many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another SHALAWAM AHCH.
DeliverTheNation 9 months ago
the Shaft of Judah is the only camp with 100% truth, fuck GMS heathens!
ProphetEdomiteSlayer 10 months ago
Damn these guys are still around
thecj29 1 year ago
Ephesians 2:11 (King James Version) 11Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
We were living like the other Nations, therefore we were called the other nations! A whole lesson was done on this subject. Watch Jews and Gentiles by Nathanyel7.
ABBAYAEL 1 year ago
Hosea 1:9-10 (King James Version) 9Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God. 10Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
This is where we are being told we are not the children of Israel! "GENTILES"
ABBAYAEL 1 year ago
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Kingmastershake 1 year ago
Num 9:14 ‘And when a stranger sojourns among you, then he shall perform the Passover of יהוה. He shall do so according to the law of the Passover and according to its right-ruling. You have one law, both for the stranger and the native of the land.’
Num 15:16 ‘One Torah and one right-ruling is for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you.’ ”
yahissalvation 1 year ago
Deu 27:19 ‘Cursed is he who twists the right-ruling of the stranger, the fatherless, and widow.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amĕn!’
yahissalvation 1 year ago
Lev 19:33 ‘And when a stranger sojourns with you in your land, do not oppress him.
Lev 19:34 ‘Let the stranger who dwells among you be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself. For you were strangers in the land of Mitsrayim. I am יהוה your Elohim.
yahissalvation 1 year ago
No you just err my Brother. Your also reading the verse you put up out of context.
yahissalvation 1 year ago
Rom 10:12 Because there is no distinction between Yehuḏite and Greek, for the same Master of all is rich to all those calling upon Him.
yahissalvation 1 year ago
@yahissalvation Again, what scripture says anything about being spiritual Israel? You dont understand who the gentiles Paul is speaking are. They are the Scattered Israelites living like the other nations! James 1:1-2
ABBAYAEL 1 year ago
@ABBAYAEL No. Gentile means OTHER nations. That means other than the Yisraelite nation. May friend.
2Es 1:24 What shall I do unto thee, O Jacob? thou, Juda, wouldest not obey me: I will turn me to other nations, and unto those will I give my name, that they may keep my statutes.
yahissalvation 1 year ago
@yahissalvation John 7:35 (King James Version) 35Then said the Jews among themselves, Whither will he go, that we shall not find him? will he go unto the dispersed among the Gentiles, and teach the Gentiles?
Why did the Jews refer to the scattered Israelites as Gentiles? Because they were being called Gentiles! The Israelites were called gentiles just as it was prophisied by the prophets of old!
ABBAYAEL 1 year ago
@ABBAYAEL You need to read Alfred Edershims book The Life and TImes of Jesus The messiah. And learn what the "dispersion" was and what it meant to be a "hellenized" Jew, Also Hosea is refering to the tribe of Dan, who were adopted into Javen, and wound up on the other side of the caucuss mountains, forgetting over centuries who they were, becoming pagans, and getting converted back later, called Khazars.
feedtheflockofgod 1 year ago
G1484
ἔθνος
ethnos
eth'-nos
Probably from G1486; a race (as of the same habit), that is, a tribe; specifically a foreign ►(non-Jewish)◄ one (usually by implication pagan): - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.
If you don't see it now. Then you either never will. Have other motives. Or have yet to see it. Shalom.
yahissalvation 1 year ago
Rom 11:30 For as you also at one time disobeyed Elohim, but now have obtained compassion through their disobedience,
Rom 11:31 so also these have now disobeyed, that through the compassion shown you they also might obtain compassion.
yahissalvation 1 year ago
Rom 11:13 For I speak to you, the gentiles, inasmuch as I am an emissary to the gentiles, I esteem my service,
Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, have been grafted in among them, and came to share the root and fatness of the olive tree,
Rom 11:18 do not boast against the branches. And if you boast, remember: you do not bear the root, but the root bears you!
yahissalvation 1 year ago
1Pe 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a set-apart nation, a people for a possession, that you should proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvellous light,
1Pe 2:10 who once were not a people, but now the people of Elohim; who had not obtained compassion, but now obtained compassion.
yahissalvation 1 year ago
Act 13:39 and by Him everyone who ►believes◄ is declared right from all sins from which you were not able to be declared right by the Torah of Mosheh.
This one is for you. You don't act the way Scripture says to act:
Jas 4:16 But now you boast in your proud speeches. All such boasting is wicked.
Jas 5:6 You have condemned, you have murdered the righteous – he does not resist you.
yahissalvation 1 year ago
{Joe 2:32} “And it shall be that everyone who calls on the Name of יהוה YAHUWAH shall be delivered. For on Mount Tsiyon and in Yerushalayim there shall be an escape as יהוה has said, and among the survivors whom יהוה calls.
{Joh 10:16} “And other sheep I have which are not of this fold – I have to bring them as well, and they shall hear My voice, and there shall be one flock, one shepherd.
yahissalvation 1 year ago
@yahissalvation
Joel 2:27
27. And ye shall know that I am in the midst of ISRAEL, and that I am the LORD your God, and NONE ELSE: and my people shall never be ashamed.
ABBAYAEL 1 year ago
@yahissalvation Spiritual Yisrael
yahissalvation 1 year ago
@yahissalvation That verse didnt say that..........Where does the bible say spiritual Israel? I will be waiting.
ABBAYAEL 1 year ago
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Kingmastershake 1 year ago
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Kingmastershake 1 year ago
SATAN is the Author of Confusion=To Hide the TRUTH Jerome in Rome 400ad Chopped up the L-70 from 49 books into 66 then Scrambled the Books like SCRABLED EGGS created the LATIN VuLGATE
Read the History of he Bible for FREE at the Late Dr Martin site, "ASKELM"
You can order a bible back in the 49 orginal books at Amazon books, Fred Coulter Bible.
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deadadelta 1 year ago
@deadadelta You can go to originalbibleproject and read some of Dr Tabors Translation He has 40 years working with Old Greek
The Alexzandrinus,Vatacanius, Ephrem, Sinacaitus, Lenin Grad Codex, their are 5 Konine Old Greek bibles that have survived each have 49 books except one
L-70 also called Septiguient does not even have Gods real name in it, Long running Debate at Harvard & Yale thier is two creation stories in L-70
Dr Tabors Translation TEB bible Reads more Solem this is foretol
deadadelta 1 year ago
brother, u claim u follow the truth, yet u use apocrypha? i sure wont follow u, cus u are adding to the bible
1Waddup 1 year ago
@1Waddup the apocrypha is in the 1611 bible lol
TheTribeOfJudah1 1 year ago
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@TheTribeOfJudah1 the bible tells u God has preserve every word in the bible,
and if the apochrypha is not in the bible, its not from God
Psa 12:6-7 The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a
furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
u mean to tell me God could not preserve the apochrypha from leaving the bible? LIAR!!!
Stop adding cus there is judgement for it
1Waddup 1 year ago
@1Waddup Hey Friend, not to get into an argument but I was just reading your comment and was just wondering how you support your argument knowing that Jehova lord God and jesus are all pagan names titles whatever?? just curious that's all
MrSoldierb 1 year ago
I knew I read it about the head covered thing....smh...i checked dat out wit GOC, and da other scriptures your quoting I checked dat with GMS and others ahch.
MistaHughes83 1 year ago
hmm..thats why i only trust the gocc. and recently i came upon men of god12 and the truth seekers, they seem legit. i pay close attention to what they teach and how they are.
Sinfull702x602 1 year ago
@Sinfull702x602 you better off trusting in the HOLY SPIRIT for guidance,gocc and truthseekers313 have erred on many occasions,we all do.Shalawm
kingcody2414 1 year ago
@kingcody2414 yea. true that.
Sinfull702x602 1 year ago
@kingcody2414 here here I started off listening to gocc but now have no respect for what's his name? As I went to here him speak in Walsall in the united kingdom...man that geeza totally distorted Amos 9:12 to try to prove a point he was making to a young brother, u can watch it if u you tube reasoning with the bubble eyed black fish and his renegade teaching...sorry about the title I never put it up...Shalom
MrSoldierb 1 year ago
@MrSoldierb yes, I call goc" the one verse church",because they never deal with scriptures in full context,and that richard shepard character has his own hidden agenda,THE MOST HIGH will deal with him and others with thier foolish doctrine scattering the flock.Shalawm
kingcody2414 1 year ago
I agree with most of what you say.The piece about the head being covered goes deeper than the literal meaning.The head means light.So what it is saying is when you teach,don't cover the light.Let all of it shine.Most of the the Bible is not to be taken literally.We must understand the metaphors to extract the Power from the Word.
Shalom,Shalom.
arnibah 1 year ago
I say DAMN near not of the Israelite Churches is teaching the truth OR if any of them are I don't see any of them following the laws themselves.Like example,your not suppose to buy on the Sabbath YET I've seen on NUMEROUS occasions where brothers were out their teaching & would buy food/water WELL after the Sun was down,or the ICUPK camp talking bout ties is 20% when they know DAMN well the Bible says 10%.
HarlemEssence 1 year ago
Abbayael you went off when saying that all nations can not recieve salvation. That is a bold face lie taught by Israelunited in Christ. Revelation 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
deerog29 1 year ago
Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
this is how we know that there is a fault in the doctrine Israel united in Christ preach does not match up with the Bible.
deerog29 1 year ago
Sin is a transgression of the law, and all sin have a judgement. Is there a judgement for not wearing fringes, or is there a judgement for going against what the fringes are supposed to remind you of which are the commandments. We went into captivity wearing fringes. Finally, ANY group that teaches that all nations CAN'T be saved, FLEE from them. It is false!
yahshuahdotcom 2 years ago
@yahshuahdotcom where in the scriptures does it say all nations shall be saved?? Before you respond please read Jeremiah 25, John 11:50-52, Acts 5:31, Matthew 1:21, Matthew 19:28, Luke 22:28-30, Nehemiah 7:61-65 and Ezra 2:59-63.
viflavor 2 years ago
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yahshuahdotcom 2 years ago
Hold on Bro, I was feelin you until you started talikn about head coverings. You did not properly interpret that. Please go back and study that. He's talking to the church of Corinth about HEADSHIP while using their head covering custom to illustrate.
alliwells 2 years ago
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NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
Don't tell me to stay on subject when everytime I mention this verse (Lev. 19: 27) your response is "Yah told us he would cause us to eat flesh".......THAT never was the subject......
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
You seem to be very focused on the difference between "baldness" and " utterly bald"....attempting to admonish me....yet you can't seem to understand your inserting words into verse 27 that aren't there. When you brothas teach this you say "you can't cut the hair on the corners of your beard or your head"....well cut, shave and like are NOT even 1 of definition listed.....NOT 1.....I ask you to show me one place where "round" and "mar" are used to denote cutting or shaving. Then I will be quiet.
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
The Commandment is Clear, This is why I did this video!!!!
II Esdras 7:
21. For God hath given strait commandment to such as came, what they should do to live, even as they came, and what they should observe to avoid punishment.
Sirach 32:
17. A sinful man will not be reproved, but findeth an excuse according to his will.
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
@ABBAYAEL For clarity, what commandment are you referring to ?
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
Leviticus 19:27
Number 15:38
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
@ABBAYAEL What ???
yshuaknesset 1 year ago
@yshuaknesset What do you mean what Ahch?
ABBAYAEL 1 year ago
@ABBAYAEL I don't know what happened, the question was @ "arnibah" we were asking arnibah "what", since he/she sent us an open end comment.
It wasn't for you Abbayael, our fault.
yshuaknesset 1 year ago
@yshuaknesset The 10 Commandments.
arnibah 1 year ago
this guy is a joke!!! his group teaches the so called white man was once dark from Japhet!!! total maddness!!!! there are no future or current prophecies against Japhet. The Bible only mentions destruction against Edom, Idumea, Edomites etc....
megalon07 2 years ago
oh here go something else fo you.
Rev 7:9 ¶ After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
urchop 2 years ago
REPENT!!!
Matthew 28:19 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
neotech888 2 years ago
People don't own truth.
Truth is Freely given. Once someone claims it originates from them, it gets taken away. Truth is YHWH & Yahushuah.
John 14:6
Yahushuah saith unto him, I am THE WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
So you want to come closer to the father, you don't need a church. What we need is fellowship & people to be gathered together. We don't need to follow man, follow YHWH & Yahushuah freely in truth, without a gun to your head.
morningsun29 2 years ago
What are the fruits of the spirit? But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23
(Kindness, gentleness and peace are KEY)
Then May (Yahawah) , Yeshua Hamashiach continue to guide you and bless your path.
Karinagl11 2 years ago
I was part of the 12 tribes and left because I could not find this. But you are right about the spilts. If your church lacks the fruits of the spirit, then its off. But if your church believes in the fruits of the spirits.
Karinagl11 2 years ago
NONE of them are teaching the whole truth! Read revelations chapter 1-3. None of the churches are keeping the whole truth - there was not a single one that Messaiah didn't have a problem with.
However, that doesn't mean that some individuals are not keeping the whole truth.
PS - I disagree with your beliefs - other nations CAN be saved. There are "other sheep", strangers that attach to Israel.
thesuperfe 2 years ago
What is the understanding of the Law in
Leviticus 25:35 ?
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
Man, whenever in doubt, google search "Strong"s Concordance" and whatever book in scriptures you wanna check. It can shed alot of light on stick issues.......like this brotha in this vid saying you must have beard and can't and can't shave or line ya hair up......FALSE. That law was only for the Levites and when it says (Lev. 19: 27) don't round the corners of your head or mar the edge of your beard its not talkin about a haircut. Look it up in the Concordance.
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer Yea we did look it up and it is talking about a hair cut .
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
Ok well tell me what the definition of "round" and "mar" mean in the Concordance you have.........if I am mistaken, correct me........
Round #05362
1) to strike, to strike off
2) to strike off skin
Not hair but skin.
Mar #07843
1) to destroy, corrupt, go to ruin, decay
1a) (Niphal) to be marred, be spoiled, be corrupted, be corrupt,
be injured, be ruined, be rotted. This verse is talking about doing things to flesh of your face......not a haircut.
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer And I would not advise a Google search, get your hands on a hard copy , of the older books, the new stuff has changed things.
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
In fact, it used to be a custom for our people shave off there hair when in mourning.........you can find these examples all over the book.
Job 1: 20
"Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshipped,"
Micah 1: 16
"Make thee bald, and poll thee for thy delicate children; enlarge thy baldness as the eagle; for they are gone into captivity from thee."
Your saying the Most High breaks his own laws....just not true.
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer In the book of Job when he shaved it was "not" utter baldness.
In Micah They had fallen off into paganism, following the nations customs so there for Yah told them to shave utterly bald.
"would the Most High break his own laws " ?
Well in Jeremiah 19:9 The Most High says...I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters... We need to know the spirit of whats being said.
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
There are 2 major problem with what your saying.......1) Your saying that somehow Yah began to distort his own law because WE fell into paganism. 2) And this most important of all, you can't show me ANYWHERE in the scriptures where a law was given about a haircut except, if your Levite.......There is NO law pertaining to the House of Israel that states that. The Levites had there own law. Eating flesh is one of the curses.......where does it say a haircut is a curse? NO WHERE
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer No one said you can't get a hair cut, your missing the point, you shall not destroy your corners, you can have a hair cut with out cutting off your corners. If you need to, look at other translations if it's to hard to understand the kjv.
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
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yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
Ok, even if you wanted to say that, there still no law against it. You said Job didn't shave completely.......well show me where it says that? Strike, is a violent action and you brought up consume but thats not the word used in the law.......but again no where in the definition does it say "cut"........these were not primitive men who hit there head with objects in order to shave.......they had razors just like us. Lining your hair up isn't by any stretch, a "violent action".
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer Well there is a hebrew word that means complete utter baldness that word was not used in Job, and you need to broaden you understanding on violence & strike. Again a collegiate dictionary will tell you that one strikes the hair with a comb, and violence is exertion of "any" physical force even the force applied to ones head by clippers or a razor, altering or casting off the hair.
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer Broaden your understanding bro. Lining up your hair is very much striking off the corners and violence being done to your head it not hard to understand, unless you look at it narrowly minded.
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset Again, if thats the case then Job would have sinned for shaving his head, period. Yah never commanded us to eat flesh, rather he stated that would be a punishment for violation of the law........no such verse exist in regards to hair.......in Micah, Yah is not telling to go be like the heathen, thats crazy. He was telling us to mourn.......just like Job did.....if this wasn't so, you would have somewhere to take me that states someone violated this law and was punished for it..
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer Look you can take it out your Bible if you want in Jeremiah 19:9...I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons...
How would Job have sinned for shaving his head, Again
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
Bruh, the question was never about eating flesh??? Plus, as I said before this was a punishment (Deut. 28 53-58). Now show me where Yah said, or ever chastised anyone for breaking this "hair law".......just one example. You can't have it both ways.....1st you say, the Micah verse is about us turning pagan so Yah commanded us to break his Law but then you say "How would Job have sinned for shaving his head".......so its ok your saying to shave your head with whatever?
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer What ??? Go read what we said carefully. You are very much missing the point. And it looks like your doing it intentionally. I am talking about the horses head and you are concentrating on the horses tail.
We gave proof about the word "round" & "mar" and your scripture comparison, is not proving your point. Read our comments thoroughly please and then respond.
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer That's like saying show me where YAH punished you for not wearing fringes or for putting a mussel on an ox will he treading the corn!!! That's good, believe what you want bro.
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
There is a clear difference between the two......see I can show you the fringes law but I can't show you a place where Yah commanded us to break this law. Thats totally different than what your saying......that we were given a Law that Yah then came back and commanded us to violate.....but anyway we good.....
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer Can we eat the flesh of our children ??? But Yah said he will cause us to do it. But any how a man or woman can shave but they can not destroy the "corners" and every time you read about shaving for morning it don't mean "utterly bald" where the corners have been destroyed. alright then... moving on now...
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
"Cause" and "command" are not the same nor are they interchangeable.
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer Dude you don't even remember what you were writing in the beginning do you ??? Unless I missed it, but what text do we read where Yah "commands" us to shave utterly bald ?
"You" wrote "strike off flesh" that was a myth,
also it will do you well to understand the spirit or figurative language of Bible text . And if you stay on one subject and stop jumping around, reasoning could be productive.
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
I know exactly what I wrote....thats why I said correct me if Im wrong, REMEMBER? So take the personal aspect out of what you saying. Ok, I accept that "skin" is not referenced in every concordance.........but what you fail to accept is the words cut shave trim and the like are NOT mentioned. It should read....
Lev. 19: 27
Ye shall not "strike with more or less violence" the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou "decay, destroy, or injure" the corners of thy beard.
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer What are the corners?
The New Scofield Bible reads "shave"... Why because further definitions of
#5362 in the Old testament Dictionary (hard copy)
reads "naqaph prime root. to strike... i.e compass, (about, -ing), "CUT-DOWN", destroy, go round (about), inclose, round.
Never the less, destroy, and strike can also imply severing or cutting. Now the other Question is what are the "CORNERS" ?
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset "Round" or "Mar" don't mean
"cut " the skin, that we know for sure. Yea, you said it, "whatever".
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
Fact is, "round" or "mar" don't mean "cut" to begin with.
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer Again you can shave your head without destroying your corners, it did not say that Job was utterly bald, nor that he struck of his corners, Period.
Further more you admit the priest couldn't shave bald. but in Amos 8:10 it said Yah will put Baldness upon "EVERY" HEAD. EVEN THE PRIEST ???? You need to understand the language and spirit of the WORD of YAH .
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
I like that you brought out Amos 8 :10 because it witnesses to what I said before.......that shaving your head was not a violation of the law but rather a sign of mourning.
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer Well then you CONTRADICT your self, you said already that the priest could not make "baldness" upon his head !!!
Leviticus 21:5 so is the Almighty going against his law ??? "MAKING BALDNESS UPON EVERY HEAD" or you just don't understand the language of the text.
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@yshuaknesset
Proof of what? Neither "round" or "mar" mean cut or shave.....totally different than whats said in Lev. 21. And if your as schooled as you imply, you would be able to show me what I asked you to show me, Yah's word or chastisement. Horses head.......miss me with the nonsense. And you know like I know, that every time you see the words "every" "evermore" or "forever" it doesn't always mean, all in compassing or everlasting. So whatever, we agree to disagree.........
NewWorldDestroyer 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer We use the kjv and with some research, the word "round" fits the point, of going round about your extremities, striking off, the "corners" not the "skin". And understanding the range of the word strike is also helpful in this text.
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
@NewWorldDestroyer Your missing the point again, I don't see any distortion in the law, but never the less it says ..."I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons".... So we must understand the language and the intent of the word of YAH.
yshuaknesset 2 years ago
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shamiwan7 2 years ago
TheBOCC1000 teach that law! They used to be 12tribes. But Nate sowed discord and caused a split thru his pride. Got tapes to prove all things that are being said
uploadunreg 2 years ago
Please Post the Video or Audio you have to prove this. I'll be waiting....Please don't let this be one of those things that never get proven,other wise I'm going to say that your a liar based on the fruits that have been shown by the elders of my congregation.All the commandments are taught and stressed in our congregation,All Praises to the Father!Are you teaching?Who are you?Whats your point in bringing up the past. Also, how could our church be based on a lie if were in Christ?
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
This vid is true. But sadly your church is based on a lie. Kani, Barakshar, Nathanyel taught that we dont have to keep the laws in 12tribes. Led many astray, blaspheming the Spirit.
uploadunreg 2 years ago
I see some bitterness in you concerning the video that Elder Kani made about Zayan.Was the video incorrect?Does your church teach to endure to the end?What happens if you give up and go back into the world and die?These are pretty elementary if you ask me but it seems to be getting underneath your skin. What church are you apart of? Who are you? But I do have a opened mind, at the end of this let the truth be known if its of the MOST HIGH. I will be waiting on the edification.
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
How can u say you know the truth and teach it when you don't even mention the true names of the Father and the Son.
jamison361 2 years ago
ABBAYAEL, do you believe the laws regarding the Levitical sacrifices still apply? If the answer is no, what does this mean for your understanding of Matthew 5:18?
AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee 2 years ago
Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom ans2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
it's always good to ask instead of assuming....or we may break a law trying to get others to follow a law...
Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
TheGOCChurch144 2 years ago
Shalom Brother Rawchaa!!!! No assumptions here ahch, Ive seen with mine own eyes in numerous videos old and new that you all dont wear them. Now just because you may have some stored somewhere does not negate the fact that your not wearing them and that you are in the midst of sin.
1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 (King James Version)
21Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22Abstain from all appearance of evil.
Now is romans 2:28-29 justifying not wearing fringes?
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
brother...don't have time to go back and forth brother....keep looking for fringes.
study them scriptures left and we'll continue to study and build with the scriptures. blessings
TheGOCChurch144 2 years ago
Numbers 15:38-39 (KJV)
38Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue: 39And it shall be unto you for a fringe, that ye may look upon it, and remember all the commandments of the LORD, and do them ; and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring:
THIS IS NOT A PART TIME THING!
REPENT!
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
You did not address the fact that it said the BORDERS in other words the edges not the entire garment. There should be only 4 in each corner of the garment laced with blue. I do not see your church doing this either ahch so "THIS IS NOT A PART TIME THING!
REPENT!" Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Bagawould 2 years ago
Actually your incorrect brother, the borders are at the end of your garments and the ribband of blue goes on top of the fringe like you seen in my video. But if you are wearing the ones your thinking of I wont contend with you.....but remember, that is how the jewISH people wear them.
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
Again, I think that you ignored the fact that we have made and wore fringes and do not tell people they shouldn't wear fringes brother..but I guess you just need a forum to chastise correct.....please study the scriptures posted....We've been making fringes and teaching the scriptures on fringes before you were born.
TheGOCChurch144 2 years ago
Then why cant I look on your videos and see them for myself, this is not just on one occasion. It is what it is bro, Repent.
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
wheres your beard?
and 12 tribe sign?
and last not but not least, wheres your faith?
Last video i saw of you, you were teaching that Israel needs to jump on some 747 planes and get out of here. LOL, That was it for me. Gathering of Christ is FALSE.
SureThing890 2 years ago
"of the borders" Strongs H3671
H3671
כּנף
kânâph
kaw-nawf'
From H3670; an edge or extremity; specifically (of a bird or army) a wing, (of a garment or bed clothing) a flap, (of the earth) a quarter, (of a building) a pinnacle: - + bird, border, corner, end, feather [-ed], X flying, + (one an-) other, overspreading, X quarters, skirt, X sort, uttermost part, wing ([-ed]).
Study a little more ahch
Shalom
Bagawould 2 years ago
Yeah , I will do that.....and go put on the fringes you think is right. better than nothing.
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
Yeah, I can do that and you can change yours to the right way.
Bagawould 2 years ago
P.4 And each fringe should laced or wrapped with blue. SO that is kinda what I mean we all not going to get it right BUT if we come together and help each other do the will of the Father that is what counts and help each other stay out that lake of fire.
Shalom
Bagawould 2 years ago
TheGOCChurch144 here on youtube teaches truth as well I dont believe The Most High will give all truth to just one church
Shalom
Bagawould 2 years ago
Does your church teach the commandments I listed, like fringes or beards?
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
Yes they do but if you are not right in the inside why put on your fringes? When you get right in the inside then put on your fringes as a reminder but yes they tech both
Bagawould 2 years ago
So why dont they wear them? If Im mistaken then I apologize ahead of time. But I have never seen any brother from that church teach that or wear them. please send me a video where there wearing fringes.
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
P. 1 You never heard them teach on them because you would have to attend their classes to hear such a thing and since you attend another church I would assume that is why. As far as wearing them I never seen them wearing them either but never teach against it or told their members not to because the question has been brought up. Also we are to wear mitre's since we are all now priests of The Most High and I dont think I have seen your church do this as well if they have then I also apologize
Bagawould 2 years ago
P.2 Besides you are to wear fringes on the four borders of the garment with blue not the entire garment. It is to be a personal reminder to keep the commandments when the people you teach concentrate more on your outer garment then the words of The Most High to ME there might just a little problem with that. I guess there is nothing wrong with being flamboyant if you want to be seen.
Shalom
Bagawould 2 years ago
P.3 Oh one more thing about keeping the fringes I totally agree BUT there should only be 4 located in each corner of the garment...Num 15:38 Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue:
Bagawould 2 years ago
apology accepted..The key is you never seen. We have tailored and wore fringes and have them in the closet. They're worn but you haven't seen them...but here's the fringes we sure you've witnessed.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
the spirit bear witness of our Messiah
TheGOCChurch144 2 years ago
the Pharisee's wore fringes then and wear them til this day....
Matt 23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
We care less if their seen by men.
Our brother have made Israel and laughingstock amongst the nations, so we purposely wear white as a means of distinguishing ourselves so the gospel will not be hindered. no more guilt by association. the Word stands...
TheGOCChurch144 2 years ago
Now that you know we do have them.....now what?
are we going to come together in preparation for jacob's trouble? or just quarrel over ther outward garments up until fema knocks on the door?
TheGOCChurch144 2 years ago
Now are we going to keep the Commandments and faith in Christ as ISRAELITES. or you going to cause more confusion in Israel. Do you not realize that your defending sin? The MOST HIGH told us to keep his commandments with haste....so if your about righteousness why are we having this conversation, it should of been a simple yes we are commanded to wear them and thats it. MEN are watching you Rawchaa and learning from you brother, be careful. Matt 15:17-19
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
bless you brother
TheGOCChurch144 2 years ago
May the MOST HIGH in the name of Christ increase my understanding as well as yours. Shalom
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
I completely agree.
AAAAkuuuu 2 years ago
Power Rangers?
Hav u seen Nathanyel7 Idiot?
Your a man pleaser.
SureThing890 2 years ago 3
Who is your comment direct at?
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
it was directed to jxpxjx.
but it can also be directed to you also. you're a man pleaser abbayael. u sop up EVERYTHING Nathanyaahlagah puts on your plate. You also have much envy in your heart just like him too. you'd get away from that dude if you knew what The Lord has in store for him.
SureThing890 2 years ago
Thats a whole lot of talking without any justification brother. What sin is being commited? It sounds like your the one with the envy, matter of fact whats your name? how do you know me or Nathanyel? Did you watch the video? What did I say that was incorrect, and come with the scripture, none of the jaw jacking.
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
jxpxjx
Like I stated before. our camp & others are family. It has nothing to do with pride.
2Cr 11:6 But though [I be] rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things
kadashkushaiah7 2 years ago
jxpxjx
We aint worried The Most high said what we are doing is foolishness.
1Cr 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe
1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Cr 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
kadashkushaiah7 2 years ago
Jxpxjx
Then go out & teach this weekend, record some of your teachings with a camera or cellphone.
It's impossible not to talk about Esau. The prophecies are about Esau & Israel.
Isa 58:1 ¶ Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins
"spare not"= do not hold back
kadashkushaiah7 2 years ago
jxpxjx
Our camp & others camps in the USa,Canada,UK are family. We are not clicks. Are jealous because we are close?lol. Who cares about what Esau's thinks. His a-- is grass real soon.
The only ignorant 1 is you.
kadashkushaiah7 2 years ago
jxpxjx
Farrakhan works for Esau. Just because he dont use strong words, dont mean he's not dangerous.
You have to keep Yasharahla updated on what Esau is doing. It's impossible not to talk about him.
We keep Jake in Chicago updated on current events while prophecising.
kadashkushaiah7 2 years ago
I think this brother is telling the truth. Too many Hebrew Israelite teachings are confusing & looks more institutionalized RELIGIOUS RITES OF PASSAGE. He has brought out some EXCELLENT points in this video series. Great vid & Shabat Shalom Ahki.
EzraYisrael1970 2 years ago
I understand what your saying and yes we teach from Genesis to Revelation my brother been doing it for going on 17 years
dixon307 2 years ago
In your vdeo i saw me and my brother teaching the word. All the differant camps you are showing are you saying they are not teaching what's right? Or you just using them for examples on how do you tell who is right
dixon307 2 years ago
I used those videos as a parrallel to simulate a brother or a sister browsing youtube and trying to figure out who's right and who's wrong. Not to single out any church. Now IF your church is not teaching the commandments as a whole, my advice to a new brother or sister is to steer away, the ones thats going to have the most understanding are the ones with the faith and keeping of the commandments and not sparing one, thats who you should be learning from. Does your church teach Num 15:38?
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
Brother you are assuming my church is teaching against the commandments, you are lying on people that's what you are doing. The scripture's say do not speak about things you have no knowledge of !!!!! We promote The Most High and his anointed son Mashayach Yahawashi and not men. So you need to stop telling lies............................
dixon307 2 years ago
Brother I didnt mention your church, so either your church isnt teaching some of the laws that I brought upor your mistakening the beginning of the video to be churches that are not in order. That was never said, watch the videos in the entirety.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
ABBAYAEL 2 years ago
jxpxjx
Your the one that is cult. And it's called the Mouse Click Prophet YT Cult.
Since, you feel so confident. Stop by 1 of our camps in the USA & debate with us.
kadashkushaiah7 2 years ago 2
The Gathering of Christ Church is really waking people up on YouTube. Check them out. Shalom!
thegodsend 2 years ago
Indeed...
TheMeekShallInherit 2 years ago
Shalom great video Ahch
some are now teaching not to keep the laws they be the 2/3s that they like to preach about...
edgarmendex 2 years ago 2