The Iowa Supreme Court asked a simple question: "Are all Americans equal under the law, or are they not?" You should read the whole decision, available by googling it - it is beautifully written and intelligent, unlike this nonsense. Keep your religion OUT of my secular law! No church would be forced to perform marriages. No straight marriage will suddenly implode.
u people are a bunch of right wing reactionaries..let's vote on ur rights and see how u like it..let's ban str8 marriage since u people can't stay married or stop having affairs and can't stop killing or abusing ur kids ..it's a crime to let u marry
What was the point of all the explosion noises? To suggest that God's wrath is coming down on Iowans now?
Funny thing is, in terms of weather and nature, this past summer was one of the best ever: record low numbers of tornadoes, and a record corn crop.
It was the summer of 2008, the last summer when gay marriage was banned, that God was apparently angry at us, what with all those floods and tornadoes.
That was pretty lame and pointless. And yes, pandoras box did open here in Iowa. The pandoras box of equality. I cant wait for our retail revenues to increase and our overall quality of life to increase. A great time to live in the hawkeye state, and only getting better!
I love that Christians go after the gays for using a Christian-term "Marriage" and that it insults their religion. If you're going to go after anyone who insults the institution of marriage, what about the fact that no one raises a stink about athiests who get "married" ? I'm not saying to, but I think it's ridiculous to attack the gay community. Ugh.
Family values can have many different meanings to many different people. You make fun...we make fun...you make fun...we make fun and then we all keep doing the same thing we were doing before we made fun of each other. It's hard not to give into your sexual urges for straights and gays. There are surely right wing folks that "Pretend" like pastor Haggard who was caught with his gay buddy but.....ummm...I guess that's the way it is and the way it will always be.
That's going to take a little more work than just this forum. I will say that gays have contributed a lot to this nation but at the same time there are a lot of Americans who just can get with your program just yet. We are the voice for those Americans.
Then why don't you just tell them to get with the program? Learn? Get an education? You just contradicted yourself by first seeming logical, but then going that you're just their mouth piece.
Things can change, but with this, you're preventing it. One forum can make a difference, one person can, you're just not trying.
Thats indeed funny. We can find that out if we use common sense. Do you still have any left? Or its all stubborness? I hardly think you do. So I guess we will never find that out.
People who spread the message of hate are the wackos. it doesn't matter if you are conservative or liberal, religious or a non-believer, if you live a good life, you are a good person. It's the people who try to take away other's people's right to live that are the wackos.
We are not trying to take away your rights since they were never given to you in the first place. You must be given something to have them taken away. Actually, you are partially correct, we would like to see the ruling overturned so in that sense we would like to take that "right" from you.
What if we meet in the middle? You can still have all the rights and benefits of Real Married couples but not the recognition as a legal marriage since it's a same sex "Union". Does that work for you?
No. Seperate but equal does not work in this country. We tried it when we discriminated against african amercians and it didn't work. Seperate but equal is unconstituitonal. If you oppose the word marriage because of it's religious connotation, I will then have to remind you about the seperation of church and state.
Exactly, these rights were never given to us, but they should of been automatic, just like they were for you. This is just like saying, anyone who brown eyes isn't allowed to marry.
You can be against gay marriage. If you don't agree with gay marriage then don't get one. Preventing one group from having the EXACT SAME rights from every other citizen is unconstitutional. The constitution garuntees rights, it does not take them away. You can not agree with it and you are allowed that because this is a free country with our own free beliefs, when you take other people's rights away, that's when it is a problem.
HAVING A BELIEF is not unconstitional, taking away rights is
I just don't see the connection. People use religion and fear to actively take away the rights of others. It has happened.
Religion is not weilding it's influence in the matter of the second ammendment. My belief is that yes, people should be able to own a weapon if they choose to, BUT there should be regulations in tact to ensure weapons don't fall into the wrong hands, for example: minors.
I do not see how guns laws and marriage laws can be linked together.
They are both constitutional issues. Regulation is another way of taking away rights. So if you are game to let us regulate marriage we will let you regulate our guns. DEAL!
The type of regulation I'm referencing is a type of regulation that already exists. You must be of legal age to consent to get married. Whether you are gay or straight, you have to be of legal age to consent. The same should b 4 owning a gun. You must be of legal age. It's the same for driving, drinking and smoking, u must be of legal age. That is the point I made. Don't twist what I said into ur rhetoric. Denying people basic human rights is completely different than allowing minors to own guns
I can't ague with that but then we get to the point of defining what are "Real" basic human rights and it's up to each Nation to decide that. So let's see what happens in the coming days, weeks, months and years.
Your rights as a White, Black, Yellow, Red, man or woman should be all you have to ask for. But now your taking me into your bedroom and I don't want to hear about that. You should have all the rights that any other red blooded amercan citizen gets screwed over by. But You want more. I don't tell people what I do or who i sleep with, which by the way is my wife of 25 years this year. And we have procreated 3 wonderful kids. The anus by the way is not for procreating.....for expelling waste.
Well, by the sheer notion of wearing a wedding ring or showing people pictures of your kids, YOU ARE telling people what you do in the bedroom. As for pro-creation, what about infertile men and women? Should they be denied the right to marry as well? You may claim that the LGBT communityy has equal rights like everyone else, but the reality is, they don't. Seperate but equal does not work in this country. We shouldn't have to ask for or fight for equal treatment.
The connection is.........You like to make it with another man......may as well be a dog or a donkey......it's all wrong and it's not right to tell us what you Think we need to hear......what impels a man to put his penis in another mans anus anyway??
But then by your standards, because a female likes to be with a man, do all females like bestiality as well? And since when does a dog or a donkey translate into substitution for a man? I don't see how one equals the other. The LGBT community is asking to allow bestiality, it's asking for equal rights garunteed to them as human beings by the constitution. What compels a straight man to stick his penis in a vagina? Both the vagina and the anus are sexual organs used in the act of sex.
The thing here is.......They compare themselves to the Jews in WWll or the Blacks during Civil War, but deep down it's them wanting us to accept their sexual deviousness......what's next? Dogs? Donkeys? God will get us for allowing this......He didn't destroy Soddom and Gamhorah for it's love to other people. Loving one another is fine but this is downright abominable. God Have mercy On Us
How exactly does Marriage Eqaulity affect you persnally douchbag? 99.9% of LGBT people are bornto heterosexual parents. LGBT people HAVE children/families too - and GO FUCK YOURSELF....YOU PROBABLY CONSIDER YOURSELF A GOOD CHRISTIAN TOO HUH? WHAT A JOKE.
This to me is a non-issue. If you don't agree with marriage equality, don't marry someone of the same sex! As a school teacher, I don't ever recall reading/citing the words.."with liberty and justice for ALL" and seeing the word, "except". Separate but equal does not, has not and should not work. We can not "eenie meenie miney moe" through our neighborhoods and point to who is allowed marriage or not. As a christian and American, I am for equality, love, and acceptance to all human life. :)
"This is an unfortunate blow to family values and an institution that is already suffering from a high divorce rate and children being born out of wedlock."
I see you don't have any videos protesting the high divorce rate and out of wedlock birth epidemic...why not? We heterosexuals have done a fine job trashing the institution of marriage. Gays are not going to ruin something that's already been spoiled by those it was "meant" for. Let them have their chance.
The Iowa Supreme Court asked a simple question: "Are all Americans equal under the law, or are they not?" You should read the whole decision, available by googling it - it is beautifully written and intelligent, unlike this nonsense. Keep your religion OUT of my secular law! No church would be forced to perform marriages. No straight marriage will suddenly implode.
MuscleDaddyCMH 7 months ago
Iowa is now cursed by God.
GrandInquisitor7 8 months ago
u people are a bunch of right wing reactionaries..let's vote on ur rights and see how u like it..let's ban str8 marriage since u people can't stay married or stop having affairs and can't stop killing or abusing ur kids ..it's a crime to let u marry
xadam2dudex 1 year ago
What was the point of all the explosion noises? To suggest that God's wrath is coming down on Iowans now?
Funny thing is, in terms of weather and nature, this past summer was one of the best ever: record low numbers of tornadoes, and a record corn crop.
It was the summer of 2008, the last summer when gay marriage was banned, that God was apparently angry at us, what with all those floods and tornadoes.
trewy47 2 years ago 3
A. Pointless video.
B. MY family values were served perfectly well.
jtthering 2 years ago
Iowa has a lot to gain financially by letting gays get married. Other states need to recognize this and let gays get married!
whocreatedyourgod 2 years ago 4
That was pretty lame and pointless. And yes, pandoras box did open here in Iowa. The pandoras box of equality. I cant wait for our retail revenues to increase and our overall quality of life to increase. A great time to live in the hawkeye state, and only getting better!
slincolnwx 2 years ago
I love that Christians go after the gays for using a Christian-term "Marriage" and that it insults their religion. If you're going to go after anyone who insults the institution of marriage, what about the fact that no one raises a stink about athiests who get "married" ? I'm not saying to, but I think it's ridiculous to attack the gay community. Ugh.
whisperlouder 2 years ago
What family values?
Conservatives have consistantly violated their own 'values' from red states having more porn lookers to going against what they preach.
JealousInquiry 2 years ago
Family values can have many different meanings to many different people. You make fun...we make fun...you make fun...we make fun and then we all keep doing the same thing we were doing before we made fun of each other. It's hard not to give into your sexual urges for straights and gays. There are surely right wing folks that "Pretend" like pastor Haggard who was caught with his gay buddy but.....ummm...I guess that's the way it is and the way it will always be.
confavachannel 2 years ago
Why don't you change it though? Be the one to stop poking fun, particularly at denying gays rights?
JealousInquiry 2 years ago
That's going to take a little more work than just this forum. I will say that gays have contributed a lot to this nation but at the same time there are a lot of Americans who just can get with your program just yet. We are the voice for those Americans.
confavachannel 2 years ago
Then why don't you just tell them to get with the program? Learn? Get an education? You just contradicted yourself by first seeming logical, but then going that you're just their mouth piece.
Things can change, but with this, you're preventing it. One forum can make a difference, one person can, you're just not trying.
JealousInquiry 2 years ago
That's like asking you to change, we are what we are.
confavachannel 2 years ago
It's actually very different. You can actually help what you do.
JealousInquiry 2 years ago
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Primogen18 2 years ago
woow another right wing video... how patehtic of these people...
ch5342 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment!
confavachannel 2 years ago
No problem. Always good to point out the crap coming from the right wing wackos out there :)
ch5342 2 years ago
It's funny how we think you are wackos and you think we are wackos. I wander who is right...I guess we will find out in the end.
confavachannel 2 years ago
Thats indeed funny. We can find that out if we use common sense. Do you still have any left? Or its all stubborness? I hardly think you do. So I guess we will never find that out.
ch5342 2 years ago
People who spread the message of hate are the wackos. it doesn't matter if you are conservative or liberal, religious or a non-believer, if you live a good life, you are a good person. It's the people who try to take away other's people's right to live that are the wackos.
theaterdude06 2 years ago
We are not trying to take away your rights since they were never given to you in the first place. You must be given something to have them taken away. Actually, you are partially correct, we would like to see the ruling overturned so in that sense we would like to take that "right" from you.
What if we meet in the middle? You can still have all the rights and benefits of Real Married couples but not the recognition as a legal marriage since it's a same sex "Union". Does that work for you?
confavachannel 2 years ago
No. Seperate but equal does not work in this country. We tried it when we discriminated against african amercians and it didn't work. Seperate but equal is unconstituitonal. If you oppose the word marriage because of it's religious connotation, I will then have to remind you about the seperation of church and state.
Exactly, these rights were never given to us, but they should of been automatic, just like they were for you. This is just like saying, anyone who brown eyes isn't allowed to marry.
theaterdude06 2 years ago
Do you think the same applies to the second amendment? Most gays seem to be against the second amendment.
confavachannel 2 years ago
What does the second ammendment and gun control have to do with marriage?
theaterdude06 2 years ago
You are saying that discriminating against gay marriage is unconstitutional but so is being anti-second amendment. Please answer the question.
confavachannel 2 years ago
You can be against gay marriage. If you don't agree with gay marriage then don't get one. Preventing one group from having the EXACT SAME rights from every other citizen is unconstitutional. The constitution garuntees rights, it does not take them away. You can not agree with it and you are allowed that because this is a free country with our own free beliefs, when you take other people's rights away, that's when it is a problem.
HAVING A BELIEF is not unconstitional, taking away rights is
theaterdude06 2 years ago
Still didn't answer. But I understand where you are coming from. I am sure I would be as angry as you are if I were gay. To each his own right?
confavachannel 2 years ago
I just don't see the connection. People use religion and fear to actively take away the rights of others. It has happened.
Religion is not weilding it's influence in the matter of the second ammendment. My belief is that yes, people should be able to own a weapon if they choose to, BUT there should be regulations in tact to ensure weapons don't fall into the wrong hands, for example: minors.
I do not see how guns laws and marriage laws can be linked together.
theaterdude06 2 years ago
They are both constitutional issues. Regulation is another way of taking away rights. So if you are game to let us regulate marriage we will let you regulate our guns. DEAL!
confavachannel 2 years ago
The type of regulation I'm referencing is a type of regulation that already exists. You must be of legal age to consent to get married. Whether you are gay or straight, you have to be of legal age to consent. The same should b 4 owning a gun. You must be of legal age. It's the same for driving, drinking and smoking, u must be of legal age. That is the point I made. Don't twist what I said into ur rhetoric. Denying people basic human rights is completely different than allowing minors to own guns
theaterdude06 2 years ago
Well, then you should have said it's a rights issue and not a constitutional one but you are correct in what you said. thanks!
confavachannel 2 years ago
but to deny someone their basic human rights IS unsonstitutional
theaterdude06 2 years ago
I can't ague with that but then we get to the point of defining what are "Real" basic human rights and it's up to each Nation to decide that. So let's see what happens in the coming days, weeks, months and years.
confavachannel 2 years ago
OK, but in THIS nation it is unconstitutional and that is what the Iowa State Supreme Court has ruled.
theaterdude06 2 years ago
Civil rights are a constitutional issue. When did you last take a civics class?
slincolnwx 2 years ago 3
Your rights as a White, Black, Yellow, Red, man or woman should be all you have to ask for. But now your taking me into your bedroom and I don't want to hear about that. You should have all the rights that any other red blooded amercan citizen gets screwed over by. But You want more. I don't tell people what I do or who i sleep with, which by the way is my wife of 25 years this year. And we have procreated 3 wonderful kids. The anus by the way is not for procreating.....for expelling waste.
dewalt500 2 years ago
Well, by the sheer notion of wearing a wedding ring or showing people pictures of your kids, YOU ARE telling people what you do in the bedroom. As for pro-creation, what about infertile men and women? Should they be denied the right to marry as well? You may claim that the LGBT communityy has equal rights like everyone else, but the reality is, they don't. Seperate but equal does not work in this country. We shouldn't have to ask for or fight for equal treatment.
theaterdude06 2 years ago
The connection is.........You like to make it with another man......may as well be a dog or a donkey......it's all wrong and it's not right to tell us what you Think we need to hear......what impels a man to put his penis in another mans anus anyway??
dewalt500 2 years ago
But then by your standards, because a female likes to be with a man, do all females like bestiality as well? And since when does a dog or a donkey translate into substitution for a man? I don't see how one equals the other. The LGBT community is asking to allow bestiality, it's asking for equal rights garunteed to them as human beings by the constitution. What compels a straight man to stick his penis in a vagina? Both the vagina and the anus are sexual organs used in the act of sex.
theaterdude06 2 years ago
The thing here is.......They compare themselves to the Jews in WWll or the Blacks during Civil War, but deep down it's them wanting us to accept their sexual deviousness......what's next? Dogs? Donkeys? God will get us for allowing this......He didn't destroy Soddom and Gamhorah for it's love to other people. Loving one another is fine but this is downright abominable. God Have mercy On Us
dewalt500 2 years ago
Can you show me where the LGBT community is asking for the legalization of Bestiality? Furthermore, can you please explain this connection?
theaterdude06 2 years ago
How exactly does Marriage Eqaulity affect you persnally douchbag? 99.9% of LGBT people are bornto heterosexual parents. LGBT people HAVE children/families too - and GO FUCK YOURSELF....YOU PROBABLY CONSIDER YOURSELF A GOOD CHRISTIAN TOO HUH? WHAT A JOKE.
rextrek 2 years ago
I totally agree with you. Most gay relationships last a hell of a lot longer than a hetero relationship.
powerofthree69 2 years ago
This to me is a non-issue. If you don't agree with marriage equality, don't marry someone of the same sex! As a school teacher, I don't ever recall reading/citing the words.."with liberty and justice for ALL" and seeing the word, "except". Separate but equal does not, has not and should not work. We can not "eenie meenie miney moe" through our neighborhoods and point to who is allowed marriage or not. As a christian and American, I am for equality, love, and acceptance to all human life. :)
StephanieKansas 2 years ago
Let us know how this video makes you feel please.
confavachannel 2 years ago
who'd have thought. yeeeeehaaaaa!
eugeneonegin09 2 years ago
Lol. You lost, bigots! Prouder than ever to be an Iowan today! Iowa for Equality!
ejatz 2 years ago 8
fuck the bigots, Iowa rocks!
enigmatically 2 years ago 5
America is one step closer in the right direction.
Free love!
darkblood777 2 years ago 8
Watch the whole video please.
confavachannel 2 years ago
"This is an unfortunate blow to family values and an institution that is already suffering from a high divorce rate and children being born out of wedlock."
I see you don't have any videos protesting the high divorce rate and out of wedlock birth epidemic...why not? We heterosexuals have done a fine job trashing the institution of marriage. Gays are not going to ruin something that's already been spoiled by those it was "meant" for. Let them have their chance.
CherchezMoi 2 years ago
hmmm...ok.
shawnmerlin 2 years ago
You're a man of many words!
CherchezMoi 2 years ago
many!
confavachannel 2 years ago
LOL!
CherchezMoi 2 years ago
Funny, how the states that have legalized gay marriage have the lowest divorce rate in the country.
darkblood777 2 years ago 2
I'm so proud to be an Iowan today :D
angeldj84 2 years ago
Love is universal!!
imbethcahn 2 years ago
happy day!
sexyUMF 2 years ago