The other train was at fault. It must have ran a red earlier. The POV train had a green because it was supposed to go onto the siding and let the other one pass, but since the other train got there first and never stopped and let the POV train go into the siding, this happened.
Dispatchers could have also been at fault for a faulty signal.
@AMT4245 No. The dispatchers were not a fault. Neither were the signals. The accident was the result of the crew in the oncoming train not obeying signals.
@Boss302fan I didn't say they were at fault, I said it was a possibility. Dispatch can override a signal if they want. I don' know exactly what the report said was the cause.
If this was the train accident from the Stockton Sub I was the dispatcher that was handling the signals. The train that the camera was on had signals to go into the siding for the meet of the train on the main line. Train on main line ran the red signal there and that is what caused the head on accident.
This train driver didn't stop at red light and the other one too??? The junction was wrong for the other train, so the signal should be red... No safety standards?? Automatic emergency brake? In Germany it's almost standard (called PZB and indusi) (besides stations like Hordorf... 30.1.11... RIP)
@trainmanjosair Ooh, you are right. But the first signal @ 0:01? Both red, isn't it? Why the train ran on? Braking error? Or is the change from green to red so early there? A slew of questions... :) Greets from GER
I would say the train coming at the camera was at fault, notice the camera train's signal at the siding was red over green, which means that they may proceed into the siding. The switch was even lined in their favour, and the opposing train at the last second tripped the switch to red. The oncoming train might've even derailed due to the non-lined switch.
The camera train is at fault, the crew of 3 bailed, minor injury. The train in view of the camera had had a crew of 2, the one that jumped sustained a fucked up pelvis, one stayed inside and got some bad lesions, they were both hospitalized but survived. The camera trains conductor tested positive for alcohol.
@desertdude1234 You are completely wrong. The camera train did absolutely nothing wrong. They had signals in their favor and the switch was lined for them. The oncoming train ran two signals and fouled the switch. A member of the oncoming train was found to have cocaine in his system but not at a sufficient level to prove impacted judgement. Before you babble about shit you know nothing about read the official reports.
If you 'Google': HQ-2006-48, you can read the actual FRA / NTSB Accident Investigation Report on this collision for yourself. Most modern mainline freight & passenger locomotives are equipped with video cameras - such as in this case - for investigation & litigation purposes. (By the way, the screen turned blue because the collision - which occurred at a relative closing speed of 60 MPH - took out the camera. However, there are other sites where this video is posted where the sound continues.
@jackocooper1 Because they are pulling a load of weight around. Just like trucks. If a truck and a car are both travelling at 100mph (160km/h), the truck will take longer to stop compared to the car because it has more momentum (momentum = velocity x mass). And also the rail tracks are metal and so are the train wheels. So if you just slam on the brakes, the wheels will just lock up causing it train to lose efficient stopping friction, like a car without ABS.
@09feb1992 but why can't they make the trail wheels (or whatever they are) out of rubber or maybe have like mini holes in the tracks and spikes in the wheels so they actually grip?
@jackocooper1 the entire point of steel on steel is that there is almost no friction so the locomotives can pull massive weight. If the tires were rubber there would be far more friction and the trains as a result would be capable of pulling dramatically less weight.
Signal dropped on their face to a red indication as they were approaching the siding. The other train was not paying attention to their signals and ran the limits causing the signal to drop. Looks like they put the train into emergency before jumping but it was all too late.
@SebinaDaBest The oncoming train WAS in 'emergency' braking at the time. (You can even see the smoke coming from his brake shoes.) The camera train was also braking at the time. However, trains aren't like cars. They require MUCH more distance to stop.
@fatcat1285 The first signal at 0:00 was an 'approach medium' signal (yellow over yellow). The middle aspects were both lit. If it had been red the bottom aspects would of been lit. (Like the second signal @ 0:39.)
How come I never get top comment on my posts? I already got to many negative votes on my comment 4 days ago! <;-{ I'm sad! Sometimes u youtubers r not fair! ;-(
the train that isnt recording this didnt stop, approached too fast, fucked up etc, they overshot their signal, which sent the signal red for these guys, and too late
Think of all that enertia! Soo much weight behind him. It's like when you hit a patch of ice no matter how hard you stand on the brakes.....it's beyond your control.
That other Throttle Jerker pass the light post, meaning he ran a red light. I use to throttle jerk the old Santa Fe Baldwin Steamers and the earlier Diesels. Hope no one got hurt.
@ATSF1927 Unfortunately - according to the FRA accident report - all 5 train crew members (2 engineers, 2 conductors & 1 brakeman) were injured. But, the good news is nobody died in this 'corn field meet'!
@thisrandomchannel There were 3 crew members in the cab. The other 2 'exited' the cab before him. But, the video never caught those 2. (Read the 'Top Comments' section for a fuller explanation.)
The second signal starts as a red over green but if you watch it changes to a red over red at 0:39, way too late for the engineer to do anything. And technically this is not a head on collision as the train taking the video is being routed to the siding. Failure of the oncoming train to stop until it had cleared the main track is what caused the accident.
@JMcgo1979 That is incorrect. The signal at the beginning of the video is a 'yellow over yellow' or an "Approach Medium" signal. The next signal is a 'red over green' or a "Diverging Clear" signal. This collision was caused by the OTHER train crew disobeying a "Stop" signal - NOT this train crew. You can read the entire NTSB / FRA accident report at: HQ-2006-48. (Just 'Google' it.)
I was a conductor for Santa Fe when they merged with BN, and I saw some stupid things, but I would take my chances jumping before I would ride it out. A lot of good men died riding it out. After the accident, the pictures showed half of the engine cut away. Makes you sick in your stomach. Thank God nobody was killed.
Wouldnt jumping out be a really stupid thing to do here because when the trains collide, some of the cars will most likley derail which would pose a threat of them landing on top of you after jumping out. Or, weren't the trains going fast enough for a derailment? Saw a show where they showed how difficult it was to determine what speed a train was going towards a crossing. I was amazed that there was hardly any difference of the look of train going 35 compared to 55.
@Dugrel10 The train coming towards the camera was moving at 22mph when it collided with the train with the camera - which was moving at 38mph. All 3 crew members jumped from the first train - and survived. The 2 on the other train stayed on - and also survived. Jumping was stupid since modern locomotive cabs are built to protect the crew.
The size of trains make it very difficult to judge their speed from a distance. They always appear to be going slower than they actually are.
@994206 The "other train" wasn't "stationary"; it was still travelling at 22mph when it struck the train with the camera. The train crew failed to obey a 'Stop' signal. When they passed the 'Stop' signal it caused the signal for the other train to change from a 'diverging clear' to a 'Stop' signal.
If the other train had stopped a few feet earlier than they wouldn't have collided. Something tells me that he knew the first train was coming and he would need to let him veer off on the alternate track .
So the engineer that jumped at the last second was at fault.
@kendigjl You got it pretty much right; they failed to obey a 'Stop' signal & were at fault in this collision. The video shows 1 of the 3 train crew members jumping. Actually ALL 3 - conductor, engineer & brakeman - "exited" the cab prior to impact. The accident report didn't specify in what order they "exited" the cab. So, the person we see jumping could be any one of them.
@LocomotiveEngineer2 lol well if i did i probably wouldnt use it in the highway or anything.. just for show.. or maby if im 5 miles from civilization and some guy in a little car makes me mad.. and how big are most train horns?
@sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 I can't say that I blame you for wanting a horn from a locomotve! There are many times that I too wished that I had one when I felt that some idiot driver needed a little 'attitude adjustment'! And the engine horn would of been the perfect 'instrument'. As far as size goes; remember an average freight locomotive weighs approx. 190-210 tons. So, everything is big & heavy! But, you can find them for sale and it could be 'doable'! Good luck!
@sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 It is very possible. You'll need a source for air. Small compressor or something. Just search for locomotive horn here and you'll see plenty of evidence. Friend put a horn in his jeep and has a blast with it when people piss him off. He's probably breaking all sorts of California laws doing this but I doubt he cares. :>
@brofun I well understand the weight and inertia problems. Let's see...how about massive carbon/carbon discs plus massive 10-piston calipers, all with an anti-lock system? My guess is that the solutions exist, but the costs are deemed as excessive.
@beeroosterm I don't think it's a matter of calipers..they can stop the wheels..but, getting the friction to stop it without melting the wheels is the problem. With most trains, when you lock the wheels, the weight and friction cause the wheels and the rails to melt..and the train slides on a thin layer of molten metal..don't know exactly how they could stop that without changing the wheels and the rails to some other material..then you have the strength issues...
@brofun That's precisely why I mentioned massive carbon/carbon discs, calipers, and an anti-lock system. It would keep the heat off the rails and wheels, allowing maximum braking (no locking the wheels) with no damage to the wheels or track, while minimizing the stopping distances...
@brofun And completely impractical for anything but passenger trains. Very, very expensive; hell, carbon/ceramic brakes for Corvettes are $8000. But for passenger trains, I'm certain the expense could be justified. Now, for freight trains...well...
@beeroosterm I'm sure railroaders throughout the world would love to hear the answer to this. The reality of the situation is...the current system is the most economical to install, maintain, and work with. (I'm specifically speaking of air brake systems for freight railroads).
Eventually there will be upgrades and changes and some are in the works now. But retrofitting millions of railcars throughout the world will take time.
Gabe, do you realize how big trains are? And how heavy they are? Did you pass the 7th grade? If something is REALLY big AND heavy, how long do you think it takes to brake and SLOW DOWN enough to avoid the accident? I'd say about a half of a mile, to a mile of the train is going full speed. Did you see that much track between the two trains? I didn't. Jesus, relax.
@gabigowriel If you really didn't know, you are the dumbass. Also yes, I clearly know something that you don't, e.g You thinking that the people didn't even brake...So they just let the trains into eachother for fun?
The other train was at fault. It must have ran a red earlier. The POV train had a green because it was supposed to go onto the siding and let the other one pass, but since the other train got there first and never stopped and let the POV train go into the siding, this happened.
Dispatchers could have also been at fault for a faulty signal.
AMT4245 1 day ago
@AMT4245 No. The dispatchers were not a fault. Neither were the signals. The accident was the result of the crew in the oncoming train not obeying signals.
Boss302fan 1 day ago
@Boss302fan I didn't say they were at fault, I said it was a possibility. Dispatch can override a signal if they want. I don' know exactly what the report said was the cause.
AMT4245 1 day ago
@AMT4245 You can easily google the NTSB report that gives you the particulars. Or, if you were interested, read further down in this thread.
Either way, the dispatchers did nothing wrong in this instance.
Boss302fan 1 day ago
If this was the train accident from the Stockton Sub I was the dispatcher that was handling the signals. The train that the camera was on had signals to go into the siding for the meet of the train on the main line. Train on main line ran the red signal there and that is what caused the head on accident.
angelfan72 1 day ago
BLUE SCREEN OF THE DEAAAAATH !
LeDoyle666 2 days ago
Windows Train?
Blue Screen Of Death is oh so familiar
Bighoss2369 3 days ago
BSOD
sandokan204 3 days ago
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ischbinsnur 3 days ago
first thing I was was the guy jumping out the train
brookestolethecookie 4 days ago
0:42 <<<<<<<<<
megarckid 6 days ago
Can anyone imagine what that would sound like if u were right there?
trainmanjosair 6 days ago
@trainmanjosair It would sound like me shitting my pants, mate. :-)
n0bama2012 3 days ago
@n0bama2012 LOL!
trainmanjosair 2 days ago
This train driver didn't stop at red light and the other one too??? The junction was wrong for the other train, so the signal should be red... No safety standards?? Automatic emergency brake? In Germany it's almost standard (called PZB and indusi) (besides stations like Hordorf... 30.1.11... RIP)
pollemar 6 days ago
@pollemar If u look closely @ the signal, he had a green light n then it turned red when the oncoming the train ran the block.
trainmanjosair 6 days ago
@trainmanjosair Ooh, you are right. But the first signal @ 0:01? Both red, isn't it? Why the train ran on? Braking error? Or is the change from green to red so early there? A slew of questions... :) Greets from GER
pollemar 5 days ago
@pollemar In the first second of the vid, the lights were @ a Double Yellow meaning to slow down for diverging traffic.
trainmanjosair 5 days ago
At 0:42 is someone jumping out of the opposide train!!!!
Tobiiimnrw 1 week ago
Lol the conductor on the other train bailed out!!!!
jbabie92245 1 week ago
@jbabie92245 engineer :]
Rideandlively 3 days ago
Did the conductor of the other train jump out at 0.41?look close to the left of the screen
happywheelsforum 1 week ago
thumbs up if u saw when someone jumed off the train at 0:39
Logiman111 1 week ago
fist time i've seen this video and before they collided i also thought i would of jumped out in that situation
PLOTLAKER5 1 week ago
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Did anyone else see the guy jump out at 0:42 ?
jake140121 1 week ago
Did anyone else see the guy jump out at 0:42 ?
jake140121 1 week ago
How many people are going to point out the jumping man??!!
zkydash8 1 week ago
Der andere Lokführer springt bei 0:43
Zug473 1 week ago
the dude just jumped off 0:40
rockdude094 1 week ago
Did anyone else see that guy jump off the train?!?!?!
lilmizadorable 1 week ago
Blue screen of death.
PREZILLA2009 2 weeks ago 18
@PREZILLA2009 Blue screen and all that added-on sound effects, too.
Dddddorian 6 days ago
0.42 man jumping out of the train
jimmykouf 2 weeks ago 17
@jimmykouf 0:42
SwErLy1001 4 days ago
omfg :O
12vilius 2 weeks ago
Jenkins no they didn't I promise the one we were watching from prob jumped out way befor it happened and you can see the other side jump
GARETAWESOME 2 weeks ago
did the pilots of the trains died?
Jenkins1155 2 weeks ago
@Jenkins1155 pilots? its a train not a plane
Curtispardisfan 2 weeks ago
@Curtispardisfan i meant train driverz lolz
Jenkins1155 2 weeks ago
blue screen of death
marse78ro 2 weeks ago
@marse78ro note: non fatal accident.. Blue screen of near death *
desertdude1234 2 weeks ago
the guy jumped out a t0:43
chaser22081 2 weeks ago
I would say the train coming at the camera was at fault, notice the camera train's signal at the siding was red over green, which means that they may proceed into the siding. The switch was even lined in their favour, and the opposing train at the last second tripped the switch to red. The oncoming train might've even derailed due to the non-lined switch.
steriogram007 2 weeks ago
0:42 the driver jumped out
9dilo 2 weeks ago
The camera train is at fault, the crew of 3 bailed, minor injury. The train in view of the camera had had a crew of 2, the one that jumped sustained a fucked up pelvis, one stayed inside and got some bad lesions, they were both hospitalized but survived. The camera trains conductor tested positive for alcohol.
desertdude1234 2 weeks ago
@desertdude1234 You are completely wrong. The camera train did absolutely nothing wrong. They had signals in their favor and the switch was lined for them. The oncoming train ran two signals and fouled the switch. A member of the oncoming train was found to have cocaine in his system but not at a sufficient level to prove impacted judgement. Before you babble about shit you know nothing about read the official reports.
Boss302fan 2 weeks ago
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desertdude1234 2 weeks ago
@desertdude1234 and that is the correct linkto the report you faggot more than you did for the people
desertdude1234 2 weeks ago
@desertdude1234 haha I 100% made the alcohol part up cuz he tested positive, gotta stretch that shit for the sheep
desertdude1234 2 weeks ago
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If you 'Google': HQ-2006-48, you can read the actual FRA / NTSB Accident Investigation Report on this collision for yourself. Most modern mainline freight & passenger locomotives are equipped with video cameras - such as in this case - for investigation & litigation purposes. (By the way, the screen turned blue because the collision - which occurred at a relative closing speed of 60 MPH - took out the camera. However, there are other sites where this video is posted where the sound continues.
desertdude1234 2 weeks ago
at 0:41 was that the other driver bailing out? lol
Maudster69 2 weeks ago
that guys just like fuck this
adamunoit77777 3 weeks ago
Did the man who jumped survive, or did everything land on top of him? How about the driver of this train in the video?
PhantomDrums917 3 weeks ago
Man jumped for his life..
TIM3Y89 3 weeks ago 4
I see the conductor of the orange train jumping out in the corner... Smart man!
MrBigpapiiii 3 weeks ago
why do trains have such fails of brakes?
jackocooper1 4 weeks ago
@jackocooper1 maybe because they're pulling like 2000 tons....
Tigersfan829 4 weeks ago
@jackocooper1 Because they are pulling a load of weight around. Just like trucks. If a truck and a car are both travelling at 100mph (160km/h), the truck will take longer to stop compared to the car because it has more momentum (momentum = velocity x mass). And also the rail tracks are metal and so are the train wheels. So if you just slam on the brakes, the wheels will just lock up causing it train to lose efficient stopping friction, like a car without ABS.
09feb1992 3 weeks ago
@09feb1992 but why can't they make the trail wheels (or whatever they are) out of rubber or maybe have like mini holes in the tracks and spikes in the wheels so they actually grip?
jackocooper1 2 weeks ago
@jackocooper1 the entire point of steel on steel is that there is almost no friction so the locomotives can pull massive weight. If the tires were rubber there would be far more friction and the trains as a result would be capable of pulling dramatically less weight.
Boss302fan 1 week ago
0:41 watch the engineer jump from the oncomming train out the side and down the bank. WHAT A BOSS
nothin240 4 weeks ago
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hey guys! a dude jumped out at 0:41 !
AldeAdrian154 4 weeks ago
unbelievable
C0deLyoco 4 weeks ago
Holy shit !
irelandbloke 4 weeks ago
Wait.. Wait... did you see the part when that man jumped out of the train though?!? #ROFLMAO
CybertronianSCAR 1 month ago
Signal dropped on their face to a red indication as they were approaching the siding. The other train was not paying attention to their signals and ran the limits causing the signal to drop. Looks like they put the train into emergency before jumping but it was all too late.
IDapto77 1 month ago
a man is jumping in 0.42
rohitgigi 1 month ago
he...fucking...BAILED 0:40
shamoan85 1 month ago
poor rails:/
Calfinioo 1 month ago
BOOOM HEADSHOOT
GTS250PNY 1 month ago
Opps, I need a new train!
uprrslo 1 month ago
0:40 the conductor is like this is going on FML.
assassinscreed5493 1 month ago
Blue screen of death.
vivadangermouse 1 month ago
...is Super 8 happening again?
Eyeglompyou 1 month ago
why didn't they slow down or try to stop if they didnt
SebinaDaBest 1 month ago
@SebinaDaBest The oncoming train WAS in 'emergency' braking at the time. (You can even see the smoke coming from his brake shoes.) The camera train was also braking at the time. However, trains aren't like cars. They require MUCH more distance to stop.
wavehopper100 1 month ago
wtf a guy jump out off the train at 0:42 !!!
orion27team 1 month ago
I saw the guy jump train then the screen went blue...
MadelineTheGreat09 1 month ago
lol you can see the conductor of the other train jump out at 0:40
l3Ul3l3LES1 1 month ago
are you an expert on trains?
cdulsk2 1 month ago
@cdulsk2 I guess you could say that. I am a locomotive engineer and have worked in mainline freight service since 1978.
wavehopper100 1 month ago
maybe the other train should have slowed down??
cdulsk2 1 month ago
@cdulsk2 Actually the other train was supposed to stop. But it didn't. Hence - the collision!
wavehopper100 1 month ago
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Is the guy that jumped out of the other train at 0:41 okay?
MrTamosius 1 month ago
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MrTamosius 1 month ago
Finally I understand after much searching and see if I understood here
Osio2000 1 month ago
The jump is located at 0:41
Guyinthemazda 1 month ago
why did he jump out he was safer in the train they weren't going that fast? if it derailed and landed on him he would have been worse off
SilverAgTrainTroll 1 month ago
Yah the guy jumped out hes not superman dumbass
corey123547 1 month ago
at 0:41 something or someone jump off ! !
saknk1 1 month ago
@saknk1 No flies on you!
wavehopper100 1 month ago
He just ran a red at the beginning didn't he?
5292Nate 1 month ago
@5292Nate No he didn't! The first signal was an 'Approach Medium' signal; yellow over yellow. It only looks like 2 red aspects on this site.
LocomotiveEngineer2 1 month ago
0:00 the signal was red.
fatcat1285 1 month ago
@fatcat1285 The first signal at 0:00 was an 'approach medium' signal (yellow over yellow). The middle aspects were both lit. If it had been red the bottom aspects would of been lit. (Like the second signal @ 0:39.)
LocomotiveEngineer2 1 month ago 7
@LocomotiveEngineer2 oh, I didn`t see that
fatcat1285 1 month ago
@fatcat1285 Glad that I could help! :D
LocomotiveEngineer2 1 month ago
0:41 you can see someone jumping off
Travismoody45 2 months ago
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Thumbs up, for the guy that jumped out the door and flopped on the ground!
Turboshiz1 2 months ago
THATS FUNNY AT 0:42 YOU SEE THE OTHER TRAIN GUY JUMP OUT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE TRAIN..MOST LIKELY SAYING FUCK THIS IM OUT!!!
MegaCodaddict123 2 months ago
Is that a man jumping out of the train at 0:42?
DirectMain 2 months ago
@DirectMain You're damn right it is! (From 'The Right Stuff'.)
wavehopper100 2 months ago
WOW, just befor hit you can see the points were set for train with camera on.
Daughertyproductions 2 months ago
;-(
radanju2 2 months ago
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radanju2 2 months ago
lol the driver jumped out of the train at 0:42
blubbelbabul 2 months ago
@blubbelbabul Lol, he was smart
robbyrox1 2 months ago
退避線の信号変わるの遅すぎる
始めのほう、列車が赤信号で通過してるように見えるけど
angel2015able 2 months ago
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0:41 get out from the fucking train...
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@radanju2
thumbs up whore
brucebu 2 months ago
@brucebu <;-{{{
radanju2 2 months ago
haha.The man in the other Train jumped out 0:42 at the left side. :D
RebornGamerHD 2 months ago
the train that isnt recording this didnt stop, approached too fast, fucked up etc, they overshot their signal, which sent the signal red for these guys, and too late
Hammertin 2 months ago
he bugered off din he?
aWannaBePilot 2 months ago
Think of all that enertia! Soo much weight behind him. It's like when you hit a patch of ice no matter how hard you stand on the brakes.....it's beyond your control.
shardnard72 2 months ago
LMAO at :42 He got the fuck out of there
Psychology 2 months ago
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I used to think trains only went one way...Guess I was wrong.
TheSecrecyOfSolitude 2 months ago
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TheSecrecyOfSolitude 2 months ago
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ah shit u couldnt showed da FUCKEN CrASh!!!
59shark9 2 months ago
@59shark9 you are that fucking stupid as to deserve what has occurred to you.
Eyeolus 2 months ago
HAHA lol when he jumps out
warriorxp111 3 months ago
At 0:41 LMAO!!!
rexx1234567 3 months ago in playlist Miscellaneous Clips
That other Throttle Jerker pass the light post, meaning he ran a red light. I use to throttle jerk the old Santa Fe Baldwin Steamers and the earlier Diesels. Hope no one got hurt.
ATSF1927 3 months ago
@ATSF1927 Unfortunately - according to the FRA accident report - all 5 train crew members (2 engineers, 2 conductors & 1 brakeman) were injured. But, the good news is nobody died in this 'corn field meet'!
LocomotiveEngineer2 3 months ago
Now that is some serious shit!! ;0
HerperTyler19 3 months ago
Now, that's a true blue screen of death.
tryithere 3 months ago
0:40 the driver is jumping out!
bongrovivi 3 months ago
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GuibblesBroseph 3 months ago
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the guy jumped but when a trains collide, you better be alot farther away than that.
AtariFTW 3 months ago
pero como pueden pasar estas cosas....???? yo alucino....
Dawemann79 3 months ago
WTF!!!!Er (0:42) hatte keine eier in der Hose un JUMP
OSTrigger81 3 months ago
The dude on the other train at 0:41 had the right idea
4c00h 3 months ago
@thisrandomchannel There were 3 crew members in the cab. The other 2 'exited' the cab before him. But, the video never caught those 2. (Read the 'Top Comments' section for a fuller explanation.)
Wharfratt5 3 months ago
The second signal starts as a red over green but if you watch it changes to a red over red at 0:39, way too late for the engineer to do anything. And technically this is not a head on collision as the train taking the video is being routed to the siding. Failure of the oncoming train to stop until it had cleared the main track is what caused the accident.
vulnaviadraco 4 months ago
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at 0:43 the other train driver jumped off
trubin06 4 months ago
the other train driver jumped off
Bharatwaj89 4 months ago
You can see the train engineer ignored the signal in the beginning of the video
JMcgo1979 4 months ago
@JMcgo1979 That is incorrect. The signal at the beginning of the video is a 'yellow over yellow' or an "Approach Medium" signal. The next signal is a 'red over green' or a "Diverging Clear" signal. This collision was caused by the OTHER train crew disobeying a "Stop" signal - NOT this train crew. You can read the entire NTSB / FRA accident report at: HQ-2006-48. (Just 'Google' it.)
LocomotiveEngineer2 4 months ago
I was a conductor for Santa Fe when they merged with BN, and I saw some stupid things, but I would take my chances jumping before I would ride it out. A lot of good men died riding it out. After the accident, the pictures showed half of the engine cut away. Makes you sick in your stomach. Thank God nobody was killed.
jkejr 4 months ago
at 0:40 did I heard SHIT!!!!
Irishson2 4 months ago
@Irishson2 There is no mic inside the locomotive cab. You just heard sounds from outside the cab.
Wharfratt5 4 months ago
@Wharfratt5 i know i'm just kidding....lol
Irishson2 4 months ago
Wouldnt jumping out be a really stupid thing to do here because when the trains collide, some of the cars will most likley derail which would pose a threat of them landing on top of you after jumping out. Or, weren't the trains going fast enough for a derailment? Saw a show where they showed how difficult it was to determine what speed a train was going towards a crossing. I was amazed that there was hardly any difference of the look of train going 35 compared to 55.
Dugrel10 4 months ago
@Dugrel10 The train coming towards the camera was moving at 22mph when it collided with the train with the camera - which was moving at 38mph. All 3 crew members jumped from the first train - and survived. The 2 on the other train stayed on - and also survived. Jumping was stupid since modern locomotive cabs are built to protect the crew.
The size of trains make it very difficult to judge their speed from a distance. They always appear to be going slower than they actually are.
LocomotiveEngineer2 4 months ago
The light green goes to red at the last second. The other train did look stationary.
994206 4 months ago
@994206 The "other train" wasn't "stationary"; it was still travelling at 22mph when it struck the train with the camera. The train crew failed to obey a 'Stop' signal. When they passed the 'Stop' signal it caused the signal for the other train to change from a 'diverging clear' to a 'Stop' signal.
LocomotiveEngineer2 4 months ago
If the other train had stopped a few feet earlier than they wouldn't have collided. Something tells me that he knew the first train was coming and he would need to let him veer off on the alternate track .
So the engineer that jumped at the last second was at fault.
kendigjl 4 months ago
@kendigjl You got it pretty much right; they failed to obey a 'Stop' signal & were at fault in this collision. The video shows 1 of the 3 train crew members jumping. Actually ALL 3 - conductor, engineer & brakeman - "exited" the cab prior to impact. The accident report didn't specify in what order they "exited" the cab. So, the person we see jumping could be any one of them.
LocomotiveEngineer2 4 months ago 27
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You were probably the one who was driving.... "More Beer Buddy - Hey was that signal red? I can't tell - I am so drunk I am seeing two of everything"
callmeshane303 3 months ago
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"Condoms? Who in the hell needs them! I'm a REAL man! - Keep driving that train good buddy".
"Oooooooooooooooooooooooo oncoming" - Jump - No not on me, out the door idjet"
callmeshane303 3 months ago
@LocomotiveEngineer2 is it possible for me to put a freight train horn on my truck?
sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 2 months ago
@sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 Sure it's possible! But is it feasible?
P.S. Before you do it, you may want to check out the motor vehicle regulations for your state!
LocomotiveEngineer2 2 months ago
@LocomotiveEngineer2 lol well if i did i probably wouldnt use it in the highway or anything.. just for show.. or maby if im 5 miles from civilization and some guy in a little car makes me mad.. and how big are most train horns?
sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 2 months ago
@sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 I can't say that I blame you for wanting a horn from a locomotve! There are many times that I too wished that I had one when I felt that some idiot driver needed a little 'attitude adjustment'! And the engine horn would of been the perfect 'instrument'. As far as size goes; remember an average freight locomotive weighs approx. 190-210 tons. So, everything is big & heavy! But, you can find them for sale and it could be 'doable'! Good luck!
LocomotiveEngineer2 2 months ago
@LocomotiveEngineer2 Awesome!! thanx for the info!
sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 2 months ago
@sSTRE3TDR3EMZz94 It is very possible. You'll need a source for air. Small compressor or something. Just search for locomotive horn here and you'll see plenty of evidence. Friend put a horn in his jeep and has a blast with it when people piss him off. He's probably breaking all sorts of California laws doing this but I doubt he cares. :>
Boss302fan 1 month ago
lol the other train operator was like.........FUCK THAT
xxphuzyxx 4 months ago
@0:42 the other train pilot jumbs out.
Keralasutra 4 months ago
love how other engineer goes OH FUCK and bails out
crimsonnrose 4 months ago
Oooh Jesus x_x
Otakawaii1 5 months ago
Why don't trains have better brakes? Shit, it should not take a mile to stop! There must be a better way...Hmmm....
beeroosterm 5 months ago
@beeroosterm you simply cannot stop all that weight quickly..it all about innertia...it's impossible.
brofun 5 months ago
@brofun I well understand the weight and inertia problems. Let's see...how about massive carbon/carbon discs plus massive 10-piston calipers, all with an anti-lock system? My guess is that the solutions exist, but the costs are deemed as excessive.
beeroosterm 5 months ago
@beeroosterm I don't think it's a matter of calipers..they can stop the wheels..but, getting the friction to stop it without melting the wheels is the problem. With most trains, when you lock the wheels, the weight and friction cause the wheels and the rails to melt..and the train slides on a thin layer of molten metal..don't know exactly how they could stop that without changing the wheels and the rails to some other material..then you have the strength issues...
brofun 5 months ago
@brofun That's precisely why I mentioned massive carbon/carbon discs, calipers, and an anti-lock system. It would keep the heat off the rails and wheels, allowing maximum braking (no locking the wheels) with no damage to the wheels or track, while minimizing the stopping distances...
beeroosterm 5 months ago
@beeroosterm I see..boy, that would be one heck of a braking system..
brofun 5 months ago
@brofun And completely impractical for anything but passenger trains. Very, very expensive; hell, carbon/ceramic brakes for Corvettes are $8000. But for passenger trains, I'm certain the expense could be justified. Now, for freight trains...well...
beeroosterm 5 months ago
@beeroosterm I'm sure railroaders throughout the world would love to hear the answer to this. The reality of the situation is...the current system is the most economical to install, maintain, and work with. (I'm specifically speaking of air brake systems for freight railroads).
Eventually there will be upgrades and changes and some are in the works now. But retrofitting millions of railcars throughout the world will take time.
Boss302fan 4 months ago
¡Dios!!!
leovladpop 5 months ago
not really a head on collision. This would fall under the category of a side swipe.
RexMundiUsurper 5 months ago
Gabe, do you realize how big trains are? And how heavy they are? Did you pass the 7th grade? If something is REALLY big AND heavy, how long do you think it takes to brake and SLOW DOWN enough to avoid the accident? I'd say about a half of a mile, to a mile of the train is going full speed. Did you see that much track between the two trains? I didn't. Jesus, relax.
xxrachelleighx 5 months ago
PLEASE ,SOME NORMAL FUCKING HUMAN BEEING EXPLAIN ME WHY DIDN'T ANY OF THE "TRAIN DRIVERS" HAD BRAKED BEFORE A MANY $ COLLISION TOOK PLACE?!
I REALLY DON'T GET IT...
IT COULD BE BECAUSE OF THE TOO MANY BEERS I DRANK BUT REALLY WHY NONE OF THEM BRAKE?!
WERE THEY BOTH MORONS?!
A BIG ACCIDENT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED...
MAYBE THEY WERE BOTH FUCKING BLIND AFTER ALL, AND I MUST MENTION I WEAR GLASSES AND HAVE ENPATHY FOR THOSE THAT HAVE A POOR EYE SIGHT...
BUT FOR FUCKING FUCKS SAKE,HIT THE BRAKES...
gabigowriel 5 months ago
@gabigowriel SHUT THE FUCK UP he did hit the brakes but it takes a train with 50 cars going 30mph it takes the train 1000ft to stop
MrLukem14 5 months ago
@gabigowriel Wow, I didn't realise how stupid people can be..... dumbass -_-
Showjumper20081 5 months ago
@Showjumper20081 who's the "dumbass"?
You know something I don't know regarding this video/accident or what?
gabigowriel 5 months ago
@gabigowriel If you really didn't know, you are the dumbass. Also yes, I clearly know something that you don't, e.g You thinking that the people didn't even brake...So they just let the trains into eachother for fun?
C'mon you can't be THAT stupid now can you?