Kahane, although at his core, a good natured man who just wanted Jews to be left to live in peace, Still went way over board with his hatred. He spoke in ways i can never support. death to Arabs?? Is this really the image you want to cultivate?? Ive read almost everything Kahane has ever written. I own The Jewish idea vol 1 & 2, and i was sometimes offended by his comments towards non - Jews (im a non Jew). although he didnt hate non - Jews, he sometimes went overboard.
sometimes war is the only means of ensuring peace, which the arabs rejected time and time again. Rabbi Kahane probably didn't want to hate arabs but its hard not have animosity towards people who are openly trying to wipe you off the map. In accordance with the Torah, he believed that if someone comes to murder you or your family you have the moral obligation to preserve life by defending yourself against those who wish to take it, as it says, "if someone comes to kill you, kill him first", w
Let us give thanks to the Mosiach who assassinated this racist blood-lusting leach and rapist of morality, and erased him from the plane of existence. May such evil and ethical degradation never rear its ugly head again. Amen.
Rabbi Kahane YH"SHMO was just another Rabbinic establishment type that hid behind women. And hated other Jews even though Orthodoxy has low numbers. According to the World Almanac 2009 page 681 there 1.5 million conservative Jews and 1.5 million reform Jews. Yet by Orthodoxy a big star. So what are they hiding? Clearly the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America are hiding something If it was a high number don’t you think they would release since they "CLAIM" high birth rates.
Kahane זכר קדוש לברכה, saw the future every Israeli lives in today... Arabs trying to rewrite or erase Jewish history, squeezing our land taking it inch by inch. Om Israel Chai!
Two eyes for every eye! The Arabs are a bunch of wild animals that need to be tamed. They can't even get along with themselves and the leftist-fascists still delude themselves into believing that we can have a civilized outcome with these barbarians.
Rabbi Kahane had balls!! I couldn't believe anything more untrue. He was a man that would do anything to make a woman happy even if this is something immoral. That is a very weak man.
@SIONISME1 The fact that he was murdered simply proves the fact that these Arabs are nothing but a bunch of unbridled animals that need to have a large dose of normalcy forced down their unwilling throats.
and oh yes, fuck kahane and his memory...let him pass into history forgotten...and despised...y'skaldal y's kadash shme raboo fuck kahane and his followers...
"all the arabs aren't worth one jew"? hmm i wonder how many gentiles it takes to equal a jew? this kanhane was a piece of shit. his terror tactics came to an end when G-d destroyed his life. too late, too late for his sickness had already spread.
@gondwanas you're a lucky bastard hiding behind the anonymity of the internet.... wonder if you have the balls to repeat your worthless garbage in the face of a jdl member
Now Kahane was a modern settler type according to you 80 chazak. I though everything was from the torah according to this nut Kahane and he just practicing the torah. So now Kahane was "modern". The fact that everything they say when you push their buttons is the opposite of what Kahane pretended to be shows that he was a power mad fraud.
Hey Joseph. You are a sick disgusting man. Someone who doesn't agree with Rabbi Kahane has a learning disability. You know very little about the torah and very little about what it means to be a conservative. You are not a religious Jew by the way you behave. And I have seen the video you mention and Kahane comes across either A. An ignoramus or B. A liar. He claims certain Rabbinic idea's are biblical. The man and his followers hate anyone that doesn't bow down to him.
This is why Yitzchak Rabin was assassinated btw. There is a lot of Israel in this video, since then the Keneset have always been more concerned with a civil war between right and left than an Arab uprising.
Yeah sure. Kahane was a conservative or else I am mentally ill. We know the Kahanist would commit violence towards other Jews that don't bow down to them. That is fascism. Kahane did not believe in property rights. That is a liberal.
@Adam6275 Ha! The Macabees first campaign against the Helenist plague wasnt against the Romans.They killed the Jewish leaders who were leading the people astray.That is not Kahanism.Its Judaism.You clearly know next to nothing about Kahane or Judaism, so stop pretending you do.You spout all this random crap as if you know what Rabbi Kahane thought, but you clearly have not listened to more than a few sound bites of him speaking, and you definitely never read any of his works.And who is "we?"
@Adam6275 "Kahanism" is merely Judaism applied to modern times.You still have not answered my four questions.You have no credibility.You are just throwing around your worthless, un-based opinions that have no connection to reality.You really do sound sound mentally ill.You clearly have no sources on anything you've said.Every time I disprove your ridiculous opinions you just bring up another one.Instead of answering back, why dont you go look at some clips of Kahane and then ask yourself...
@Adam6275 ..if you really know what you're talking about. At least then you will be able to make an informed opinion of the man. I would recommend this one:
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Its long but if you wade through it you just might learn something. If you dont want to, fine.But stop acting like you know what you're talking about.
@Adam6275 You are a raving lunatic, everyone here realizes that. You're clearly obsessed with never getting loved by a woman in a way that you think is appropriate, and your head is filled with a slurry of garden variety American right wing nonsense.Also all your criticism of Kahane is nonsensical drivel, rooted solely in your deranged fantasy. Of all the smear attacks on him and on modern "settler/kahanist/land of israel" Judaism, yours is the most ridiculous. A communist feminist tyrant!? LOL!
@80CHAZAKCHAZAK08 Yep. That is correct. Kahane was a raving lunatic. You people really project
"AMERICAN right wing nonsense?" So you are saying America was not originally a republic. It certainly wasn't a pure democracy nor did the envision a pure democracy. Again this is just projection.
Yes Kahane's nonsensical idea's were based on his deranged fantasy of ruling over the Jewish people and making sure women put Kach and his party before their family and husband. You people project.
@Adam6275 You don't make sense. If Kahane was the lunatic, it wouldn't be ME projecting would it? Thrice you accuse me of "projection" (Freud is no authority here or anywhere), but on what basis? My YT page is blank, there's no evidence as to my character, how could you assume these accusations are "projection"? Unless that's your favorite psychobabble term to disguise the fact you don't really say anything at all really. I however have your rambling and blog to base my accusation's off of.
@80CHAZAKCHAZAK08 Excuse me. You called me a ranting lunatic and that is what many people called Kahane. So I find it ironic that Kahane's supporters call everyone else that disagrees with them either a self hating jew of if they can't use that definition a raving lunatic which was what many think Kahane was. So it seems to me Kahane' and his cult followers project what he was.
@Adam6275 I know consensus≠truth, but seriously, don't you question why you're alone in your ranting? The stuff you write has no basis in reality, no evidence, and just reeks of panty wearing nutcase. Kahane was out to get husbands and men like you huh? It's all a big conspiracy right? That's why you can't find a women? Anyone who disagrees with you is "projecting" (if anyone has mommy issues it's you)? I've read your comments and stuff on your blog. You're pathetic.
@80CHAZAKCHAZAK08 Mommy issues. You are projecting again. If anything I should have Daddy issues but I understand according to the Kahanist Daddy's don't matter. What is more important is that the women worship Rabbi Kahane. And fathers are only there to serve Rabbi Kahane Thanks again from proving my point. And again please tell me one man Kahane got along with and who his #2 man was. If he didn't have one it again shows that the only man that had problems was Kahane.
@80CHAZAKCHAZAK08 Kahane doesn't even represent many of the settlers as well. He was a politician. Thank G-d he never become PM and I don't think it would have happened anyway. Israel would have been a polce state and he would've use the office of PM to go after his political enemies which we see he has many since his idea's make no sense and wouldn't have worked and he then would have scapegoated other Jews.
One correction. Hides behind interpretations of torah which on many issues there wasn't one opinion to begin with. Certainly issues of voting you can't find some Rabbinic interpretation to hide behind but Kahane the liar that he was pretended to.
@Adam6275 Your ignorance is astonishing. The Jewish Court, the Beis Din worked on voting. Who are you to argue Jewish sources with a rabbi who had a- most likely- complete knowledge of these topics? Everything he EVER said about any Jewish issue has been backed up by irrefutable Torah sources. Take your ignorance and stupidity somewhere else. You are a blight on this video.
@josephmanik Uh, the only one ignorant is you. Most Rabbi's did not accept his "interpretation" of the torah. So you are saying all other Rabbi's are ignorant except Rabbi Kahane. You yourself admit you don't know. "Most Likely". The Bait Din worked on voting. But Kahane was against Democracy and hated Thomas Jefferson even though at that time America was a Republic and not a "Pure Democracy". Kahane hates arabs for having babies. The first command is be fruitful and multiply.
@Adam6275 Wow. I am speechless. Luckily, I can still type. First of all, "most rabbis" or as they should be known "The venerable Mort of Chelm" are YU graduates with a "degree" and the vaunted "Smeicha." These "rabbis" are tested on ONE THING for their Smeicha, Kashrut. If knowing how to take care of your kitchen makes you an authority on matters concerning the survival of Jews, then by all means, take their side. And as for "interpretation," he did not interpret! He would read, WORD FOR WORD...
@josephmanik It is funny you say this because Rabbi Kahane was most closely connected to YU Rabbi's and the MO. In fact he was a clean shaving Rabbi for a long time. He became to the far right to overcompensate in my opinion. Are you aware the the OU site which their Rabbi is Rabbi Joseph Solovachik promotes his wife's book LIbby Kahane's book. So the propaganda you have been fed about Kahane is just not true. Chabad doesn't promote Kahane's wife's book. Only the OU an American Rabbinic group.
@Adam6275 ...out of the Rambam(the only authoritative Jewish source on war) the Talmud, and dozens of other irrefutable sources. But no, your "rabbis" who drive to Shul on Shabbos say otherwise! I am not saying all other rabbis are ignorant, I am saying MOST are ignorant and others are fearful of "What will the GOYIM think?" or "You are only making things worse." The reason I say "most likely" is because I or anyone cannot say that Rabbi Kahane learned every single opinon of every single rav...
@Adam6275 ...on the subject. What I CAN say, is that in all of his speeches, interviews an debates, he showed a far superior knowledge of all Torah in the matters of which he spoke. The reason I mentioned the Beit Din is because you said that "Certainly issues of voting you can't find some Rabbinic interpretation." But there are Jewish matters that contain a lot of Halacha regarding voting. What Rabbi Kahane said about Jefferson was that "most Jews think the Jefferson is Judaism." He didnt..
@Adam6275 ..hate him. He said that Judaism is not Democracy! And he is right! Republic or Democracy, it doesnt matter, it still isnt Judaism. And lastly, What Rabbi Kahane said was "I don't want to lose Israel to Arab bullets or Arab babies." He said this because if Judaism is Democracy, then we could be voted into Palestine. And once again your ignorance shows. The first commanment is not "be fruitful and multiply." The first is "I am The Lord Your God." And the "multiply" commandment is a...
@Adam6275 Sorry I didnt realize that the last part didnt post. What I meant to say was that the "be fruitful and multiply" thing is a mitzvah. Meaning that it is meant for Jews. Neither Rabbi Kahane or I have any hatred toward Arabs for having babies, only that they should not be having them in Israel. Rabbi Kahane died as he lived: In servitude of God and all the Jews of the world. I would recommend looking at some of the Youtube clips of Kahane debates or speeches if you actually want listen.
@josephmanik This is being a demagogue. When someone continues to deny they hate a group it is likely because they do hate that group or they know it is an inappropriate hatred. In fact I don't even have a problem with hating the arab's who do want to destroy Israel. We should hate them. To hate arabs because they have children then and calling them multiplying like rabbits is inappropriate as we are suppose to be fruitful and multiply.
@josephmanik To answer your last question on the Jewish Press he did support the Klauss daughter getting a divorce. Second of all he was close to the owners from what I understand. Thirdly again if Jews have low birth rates much of it is because of our liberal policies that don't protect marriage and that can change. A healthy society needs a healthy birth rate or it will not survive. To hate another group for having children is not the right approach and is denial.
@Adam6275 He was close with an editor and several others. He was a very charismatic man and many would call him friend. But this is all opinion. The facts are that his views were very different from the Jewish Press, many times on the opposite extreme. I do not recall the Klauss incident.What is your source? As for your third point, I was not talking about Jewish birth rate vs Arab. I was merely stating that, in your words, he had more faith in Arab babies than Jewish sense, which is a good bet.
@Adam6275 But that is in your words. You talk of "society" as if the peaceful coexistence of Arabs and Jews in Israel is a confirmed fact. The "healthy birth rate" is a race to be the majority, being Kahane's point of Zionism over Democracy. If you say that we need a Democracy, then you are saying that the Arabs have a right to vote Israel into a Palestine. There is no hate for Arabs having babies. There is a concern that our very existence is at stake, and Democracy is the problem.
@josephmanik So every country that has low birth rates should ban democracy. You don't realize how pathetic you sound. This isn't torah. This is the result of feminism which will lead to dictatorship which Kahane being the wimp he was didn't want to deal with as he wanted women to spend time seeking political power (so he didn't have to worry about other men) rather then get married and be a wife and mother.
@Adam6275 Wow. You completely misunderstood me.I am saying that with ISRAEL'S current policies(Democracy) the Arab population is creating a problem that gets worse by the day.I sound pathetic?! Where the hell did you get feminism, dictatorship,hidden leftist, and hating babies ludicrous mixed up with Kahanism? Kahane was WEAK?!!! He wasnt following Torah?!! I SOUND PATHETIC?!!! I sincerely hope that you are trying to parody the leftist insanity, for your sake. If not, I truly feel bad for you.
@Adam6275 I had tried to make a point originally, but it seems to have been lost in translation.I will try to make it clear with the following questions.1)Do you live in Israel? 2)Are you a Torah-observant Jew? 3)Do you have an extensive knowledge of Rabbi Kahane's life and his works? 4)Do you have an extensive experience with Arabs from all walks of life?....If you answer "No" to all these questions, then you have no right to impose your opinions on those who answer "Yes."
@josephmanik I see. So you anoint yourself and Kahane is allowed to speak but no one else. What arrogance!!! This is typical liberalism that only you know and no one else is qualified. Excuse me what makes Rabbi Kahane an expert on arabs. He grew up in Brooklyn and was a Pulpit Rabbi and a writer for the Jewish Press. His wife was a librarian. This makes someone an expert on arabs. Of course it doesn't. And who said Kahane was 100% observant either. You act like you and Kahane are G-d.
@Adam6275 You should get help.You seem to have a learning disability or you are just plain stupid.I have no "anointed" anyone.I have merely made the point that because you clearly have no experience in any of these matters, and are talking out of of your ass, your views on these subject are worth less than nothing.You seem to think that if you say mention two ideas in the paragraph, that they are now joined at the hip.You seem to know a little bit about the Rabbi's early life, but nothing at...
@Adam6275 ..all about his later years.Meaning his last forty years of life in ISRAEL!!! Where he is known all over the world because of his EXPERIENCE WITH ARABS! You display the most extreme "arrogance of ignorance" I have ever personally witnessed. He can't be an expert on Arabs because his wife was a librarian?! I really would like to ask if you realize how stupid you sound, but I am afraid of the answer.I didnt say 100% observant.I said Torah observant.Versus "Temple Rabbi Observant."
@Adam6275 And I dont have to be God to know that you are either insane and an ignoramus, or smart and having a laugh. It seem to be the former.I am very far from a liberal.I have extremely religious, right wing views. And saying Kahane was a liberal?! Please, stop embarrassing yourself.
@Adam6275 I live in the Shomeron(Samaria). I do hate Arabs. I hate them because of the brothers and sisters of mine that they murdered.I hate them for the unprovoked wars that they started.I hate them for the affront to God created by Jewish weakness. I hate them for making us live in fear. But that is not why I want them gone.I want them gone because it is the Torah's commandment.And because I am a Jew who gives a damn about the future of all Jews, and of the continuation of the Torah way. R u?
Kahane was an apostate. His ugly idea's were not torah but is what you get with a man who just hides behind the torah for his own power grabs and has other people do the dirty work which his own wife pretend don't exist. The way he treated men who didn't have connections show he didn't love and fear the G-d of Israel. He also supported the liberal divorce policies of the Jewish Press as does his wife who works as a librarian by the way and her salary is paid for by the gov't.
Kahana, according to the Torah was right, however his suggested policies were something that did not look good on paper and was a mere fantasy. It never would of happened. We are lucky G-d gave us Israel. G-d cut us some slack there, but to truly be the kingdom of G-d we must wait for the Mashiach.
LOL, look at the liberals killing themselves with whistles. they are clearly regretting the decision to blow in whistles for an hour. they are making themselves deaf
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On You Tube you see young Jewish women who are both zionist and feminist and they do view having many children as multiplying like rabbits like Rabbi Kahane did.. This is why Kahane is a fraud and low birth rates will mean that we will be more threatened by anybody else then we should be and of course will send OTHER MEN TO DIE. The word Womb and the word Mercy have the same root. Kahane was a faker and a very evil man.
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Yacov on his site admits he is a liberal Modern Orthodox Jew but is a so called right winger when it comes to Israel. You can't be right wing if your religious and moral views are left wing as Yac admits but Rabbi Kahane himself was a left wing Feminist Modern Orthodox Jew
Modern Orthodox Liberal is a label on Frumster. Liberal refers to religious observance level, not religious ideology. My religious ideology is Right Wing Zionist Nationalism, AKA Kahanism. BTW, I think Frumster is bad because they just want to make money. I had to pay them money just to see that a woman wanted someone more Machmir than me. I know you don't like Frumster either.
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meir kahane was as fascist as they come. you give him and his disciples the power and they will be as bad as the nazies. it is funny that the american jews are more zionist than most the jews in israel. but the americans are only so radical while the remain in cozy america.
And he supported the divorce of the Jewish Press's daughter and the Jewish Press falling into the no fault divorce camp and screwing Jewish men (which in some cases screws Jewish women as well if they bring money into the relationship. No fault divorce does not respect anyone's property.) To this day his wife has not said a word about this. She could. But political power is more important then truth to this movement.
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Ha Ha Ha! Kahane defended the Jewish people. Oh, really! Is that why every publication he has worked for works against fathers and hate men that actually work for a living and only like men who are lawyers or dishonest Rabbi's. He didn't defend me and I am Jewish man. SO this is bunch of rubbish. This movement thinks it is above G-d and hates what the relgion really has to say.
In the 1930s and 40s there were men that wore grey uniforms, swastikas and steel helmets that screamed dirty jews and kill the jews. they ended up killing 6 million. today they wear suits and ties call themselves politicians and scream "palestinian state." its the same enemy. they just wear a different uniform and sing a different tune. Kanahe was the only one that stood up to them. now that hes gone, who will defend the jewish people?
@TallBrooklynGuy Everyone knows there was no such thing as the "holocaust" its just a modern day jewish fairy tale like parting of seas, building an ark, turning to salt, etc.
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LOL Yac. I see so your deal leader we can never criticize but everyone else is fair game. I see you apply these rules in a very rational way. Sad to say IMO you are Yac (not on a physical level) but on an emotional level a pimp. You like to use women to promote your causes although they have more important issues then this. Sadly it takes two to tango and they don't mind being used because they put political power before understanding their obligations as a woman and one of childbearing age.
You are committing Motzi Shem Ra. It's beyond Lashon HaRa because it's not even true. Our comments don't make us look foolish. But yours make you look foolish. You are committing Chillul HaShem.
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Their idol worship continues. Watch KY remove their next comment. Yac too. You wonder why I don't want them on my channel. They are idol worshippers. Do you trust people who just take down every comment they make because they know it would make them look foolish.
They are what G-d spoke about. Stubborn stiff necked Jews. They don't know anything about their torah. G-d will never be with this movement and they have been warned but they will continue to curse the holy G-d of Israel's name.
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I understand you think you do what you want KY. Which just shows deep down that you don't respect anybody else. Love of the Jewish people. What a load of bull crap. Just a woman that wants to do what SHE WANTS. You don't love anyone KY except youself. Sicko woman. Please people. See for youself that this movement is a fraud movement which people that ANNOINT THEMSELVES as some sort of leaders and pathological liars that couldn't care about their own people as they never listen to anyone.
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What a bunch of sicko's. Of course I am not even allowed to have my view. They rationalize everything. The G-d of Israel will never be with this movement. They know nothing about anything as well. Yacov doesn't work and KY is just a single woman that is more concerned about Political Power then using what G-d have her to get married and have a family. Her priorities are messed up and her actions speak louder then words and because of this she knows nothing not being a wife or mother.
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I don't want you on my channel KY. If you can't respect that then you really are a bad woman and I consider it harassement. .
It is sad but you put some political power you want over what you should be using your time now as a 27 year old woman. It is disgusting KY and you know I don't want someone that just suddenly decides not to talk on a forum to a man she was working with for a month and then starts talking to other men. You are on an emotional level a slut sadly and you don't get it.
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Yacov is gong on how much he misses Yehudit although her first hebrew name is Miriam.This is more then just a friendship although there is no touching. This movement always rationalizes when it comes to women and at the end of the day really make women look like dirtbags. Which is why I don't think the holy G-d of Israel is with this movement. The Kahanist think they own all the women and view other Jewish men as the enemy. It is disgusting and the sign of Jew hatred. Pharoh just killed the boys
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And anyway before I decided to read what was written here I did change my comments somewhat. The movement is very sexually twisted although yes they don't touch or have relations. But there is more then just physical . You don't like that. Sorry. I have made mistakes but it seems extremly unlikely from discussing it on different sites I am here. You may have a lot to answer for by your denial. Kahane playboy interview. Attract men that only see women as an object. Great. I am tired of your games
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You here this. Ahavat Yisrael. Yeah. I stated why I blocked you and you obviously don't like the reason. I blocked Yacov as well. Ahavat Yisrael (love of Israel). Please, Yehudit, You have expressed so much hate towards others so you should expect it back. Puting a man on medication because I don't bow down to them. Love of Israel.Uh-Huh. I don't want you or Yacov on my channel. I'm leting you be. That is too much for you. Yacov loving a sick woman like Lisa. You are immoral to support this.
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Yes, Yacov and Yehudit are "just friends".
Most REAL RELIGIOUS JEWS would not approve this Until Yehudit decides to find another man to "just be friends with" for a month and not talk to Yacov for a month. Because, ahem, she wasn't feeling well. But yes because she doesn't touch that makes her holy.
What a disgusting evil man Rabbi Kahane was. SInce his evil is continuing with his sick followers who want to medicate anyone who disagrees. Twisted sexual deviants. "JUST FRIENDS". Yeah.
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Yes Yacov supports the vile woman Lisa who likes the racist guy CF who has now used a lot of other names who only likes women who don't bear children and want to adopt but loves to put a picture of a pretty woman. Lisa the old fart would use CF to make sure other women don't bear children. The Kahanist are left wing antisocial goons who think because they don't touch each other that makes them pure. They would put you on medication if you don't bow down to them. Sexually twisted freaks.
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I hate Rabbi Kahane with all my heart and all my soul. I know him and his fellow Rabbi's (the OU is promoting his wife's book) just want to abuse their own men so they can have all the women to themselves as they are afraid of men who ask questions and use their analytical skills. They were jealous of another man's wife. Chaim Ben Pesach learned from his master well in abusing men as of course CBP was very involved in JDL and Kahane. Who is Libby kidding. (Typical Kahanist type woman)
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The person you worship Kahane has done exactly that. Attacked people who were defenseless and all you have to do is take a look at Arutz Sheva and see again and again he has followers behave in every situation I have discussed it. If that is the person you want to worship even though he did nothing for Israel when it comes down to it I don't see why I shouldn't be over judgemental as Kahane was over judgemental. You have been extremely judgemental in many situations so stop acting so innocent.
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I'm glad you recognize and find this wrong as it is wrong and really shows them to be hypocrites IMO. Bigger picture wise if they just ban men for various capricious reasons how could men in the end really trust them. The answer is, they can't. Many Jewish men have no where to turn. The torah tells us not to be ruthless to our own since in Egypt we were treated ruthlessly.
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Go to page 6 of the Arutz Sheva forum on Israel and you will see the exchange I had about Rabbi Kahane and his supporters support of liberal divorce ideology and thinking whenever a woman wants a divorce the man should have to pay the women and give up the children and if not beat up the man. If it is true that at one point Kahane had to work hard to support his wife and family his harshness to other men is very evil and shows his hatred to his fellow Jew.
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The item that turned me against JTF (but is typical of most Kahanist group) was when JTF attacked young men who were passively involved in the Gush Katif situation. I don't have symapthy for those who abused and intimidated Jews in Gush Katif but the one's who in their heart didn't think it was right but had no one to help them go against it I don't hate them. Further, JTF used the women to attack them. Well were the women before this. DId they help the men or only wait till they screw up.
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I have experienced this myself where I haven't been perfect but no one helps you when you need the help. They only wait till you at some point you don't do 100% the right thing and then attack you but offered you no help before then and was openly hostile to help you if you took the difficult position that may lead you to bad consequences. A lot of men don't trust JTF. Kahanist in general have shown hatred to other Jewish men becaue they want multiple Jewish women to themselves. .
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Sad to say JTF is a very bad group that have a history of abusing Jewish men even when they should show compassion (like most Kahanist group) and having twisted idea's of male-female relations. Why would a so called "relgious" group continue to have someone like Dr. Brennan Fan a man who only likes women that don't want to have children and only want to adopt. It's a responsibility but G-d gave women the ability to bear children and bring life during their prime years of their life.
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Well Yehudit. If that is true it is good to hear. It seems like you are more focused on jobs and degree's then other issues. I could be wrong. On the forum it does seem the people there kiss up to you for the slightest thing which is not good. I don't know what else to say. I hope if you are getting married it is to man that works and I hope you do serve as a healthy role model of husband-wife. It isn't just you Yehudit but a woman's husband does come before a Rabbi who has his own wife IMO.
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Kahane's idea's were absurd. He claimed Judaism was not democracy and Thomas Jefferson but this shows how little he understood about America as America WAS NOT ORIGINALY A PURE DEMOCRACY. You had to own property and the head of the household as it as felt the family was a unit to itself. Men that didn't own property did not vote although widows and single women who owned property did. It devolved from there as soon men who did not own property could vote. These idea's are based on the Bible.
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Kahane's idea was to give ALL NONJEWS ZERO RIGHTS because maybe they would become the majority which has no basis in torah and the torah warns us not to mistreat a stranger as we were stangers in Israel. Yes, we should not have compassion on a 5th column but those that are friendly to us we have no right to give them no rights. But Kahane did not view the family as sacred and in fact worked for a paper that the men were jealous of another man's wife and due to this believed stories with no proof
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And anyway, Yehudit if you really wanted to help the Jewish people I think you would get married already instead of wasting your childbearing years with degrees and men that kiss up to you but you can't marry.
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The Kahanist believe the worst about Jewish men because they have this messianic complex that they think when the messiah comes they will have polygomy although this was never an ideal. And to achieve this end they accuse other Jewish men of horrible crimes with no evidence. Don't you know one of the 10 commandments Yehudit is not to be jealous of another man's wife. G-d understands human nature. These men are rationalizing their hatred by claiming they want to PROTECT other women.
I mean doesn't that bother you Yehudit. I know you want men to tell you how great you are Yehudit although you haven't done anything that anyone should respect you. Just being born a woman doesn't mean people should respect you, Yehudit. You had nothing to do with this.
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Yes I am. This in relation to bringing this up on Arutz Sheva and men telling me that Rabbi Kahane wasn't a feminist because they believe in beating up men if they don't divorce fast enough. OK!! And having SYMPATHY for Jewish women who marry arab men that Jewish men should die for traitor Jewish women like this. Kahanist believe the worst about Jewish men and believe men beat their wives even though groups like Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting have shown this is nonsense.
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Rabbi Kahane was the living definition of Extreme evil. If G-d forbid he came to power he would use the gov't to attack Jewish men and like most of the leaders his talk would have been seen for what it is. Go to the Arutz Sheva forum and see for yourself. Kahanist feel they have the right to abuse other Jewish men when they want to ruin another man's marraige because they are jealous of another man's wife. Rabbi Kahane was a fraud of the highest order and he is roasting in hell right now.
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Death to Kaha....ne....wait!
He's already dead! YEAAAAAA HAAAAA!!!!
Old bastard is in hell, preaching racism to the devils and demons surrounding him, probably with his entrails in his mouth and hooks through his eyes.
What a thing: to preach "Death to the Arabs" and "Death to the Kibbutznikim" to found the racist religious theocracy he dreamt twisted dreams of seeing come to life.
So happy to have an exemplar of the pinnacle of human vice rotting and crawling with worms deep in the ground!
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Rabbi Kahane was a fraud! He really was a left wing marxist feminist. He worked for a paper the Jewish Press that supports liberal divorce idea's and openly supports raising Jewish children without a father. Of course someone like this will end up thinking ALL DEMOCRACY IS EVIL. The Soviets also used no fault divorce in the early 1900's. So Kahane was a fraud who really supported liberal idea's of divorce and went to the extreme right because he was afraid of being exposed.
Somebody who never lived among muslim arabs and has never experienced Msulims' aggressivity, intolerance and hostility towards anything not their kind, and Jewish in particular, will not understand that Kahane was right in everything he said. He will think it is outrageous.
Only when Europeans have become Dhimmis under the rulership of muslims in their own countries, they will understand, but then it will be too late.
His list of proposals are exactly what the nazis imposed on jews, especially the no sexual relations part, remember in shindlers list he was put in jail for 'kissing' a jewish woman, if that's a jewish concept then hitler's principles were a 'jewish' concept.
The movement also attracts very abusive men that enjoy making false sexual accusations. Just see my channel. All bogus to get back at me because I don't think highly of Rabbi Kahane. Why is that a suprise? The same thing went on in the newspaper the Jewish Press.
Kahane openly had more trust in arab's having babies then Jews. Of course this leads to women that rather then get married and be humble think their own life is about thinking they are better then men. Kahane worked for a paper that supported easy divorce and yes career women and divorced women against the man's will seem to be attracted to Kahanism. Kahane was aginst democracy because of feminism as he said JEWS MAY BECOME THE MINORITY. No healthy society does this happen.
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"Rabbi" Meir Kahane was a marxist feminist criminal. I hate this piece of garbage with all my heart. They attract women that brag about divorcing their husbands and taking their money like the criminals they are like this jap JTF has republcandox. Pigs. YM"SHMO to this antisemitic woman.
This "rabbi" is an example that nazi-fascism can don many costumes, but the crimes, whether ordained by "god", a komissar or a fuhrer, will always be against all that human civilization should stand for.
I pray to the holy G-d of Israel that this movement remains at best an extreme fringe that has no real power and is hated by the average decent Jewish person out there. Kahane was a liar and a fraud. Their hatred to anyone who does not worship their idol Rabbi Meir Kahane even though they support Israel and Judea and Sameria knows no bounds. Just check my channel for the kind of language they use. STAY AWAY FROM ANY KAHANE GROUP AT ALL COSTS. THey pretend they are right wing but are frauds.
Rabbi Kahane was a fraud. He really was an extreme left winger. He supported the divorce the daughter of the editor of the JEwish Press getting a divorce against his will. The daughter of a Rabbi and a major Jewish newspaper is not likely a victim so how much money they extorted from the guy and the lies they said who knows what they did to the poor guy. This is pure marxism and hatred of your own. For the slightest thing just take all the money away from a guy.
After 2 miracles one in 1948 and one in 1967, Jews missed their biggest chance at solving the Israel's problem.Arabs fled the lands after defeat,they expected Jews to massacre them.They knew of the horrible deeds they had done to the Jews over the centuries of living together.That is why they fled,but it was Jews like you who did the opposite,invited them back and didn't kick them out.Now those arabs who weren't kicked out will haunt israel forever.Good hearts, but you were misguided idealists.
Oh, come on, halpyman, this guy seriously preach hate, and if you read some of Rabbinical writings you would know it comes from there. I believe Muslims should get out of Israel and go to a Muslim country. And I'm not a liberal.
This is what happens when you read and fallow the Talmud. The difference between him and others is that he said it publicly, and I'm not an anti-semite, I'm just stating the facts.
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this was a rally after cold blooded killings of jews by arabs. Everybody was enraged, and what you see here shows the rift within judaism. The liberal who doesn't understand that any Israeli arab will never accept a jewish state, And that they one day they will multiply to the majority and change Israel forever. The other side are the realists that no what arabs would have done to jews if they won the 48 or 67 wars. The realist who doesn't forgive countless massacres of jews before 48' by arabs
I'm a Catholic who has done research on Talmud. Most of the online quotes you see are deliberate mistranslations AND they are ALL without context. I can give you many examples. Kahanism only partially comes from the Talmud AND the part that does was from an era when Jews were massacred for being Jews
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5:35 were does suddenly the music comes from?
MegaManticor 2 weeks ago
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MegaManticor 2 weeks ago
I am going to dig up that filth and shoot it again.
tekubus 1 month ago
KAHANE HAI!
MegaManticor 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
If had prophecy today, Rabbi Kahane would have been a prophet. His commense sense predictions were correct.
YacovMenashe 1 month ago
the video recording looks like it was made with the cell phone with free HBO from Zohan.
DeepHauz13 2 months ago
Kahane, although at his core, a good natured man who just wanted Jews to be left to live in peace, Still went way over board with his hatred. He spoke in ways i can never support. death to Arabs?? Is this really the image you want to cultivate?? Ive read almost everything Kahane has ever written. I own The Jewish idea vol 1 & 2, and i was sometimes offended by his comments towards non - Jews (im a non Jew). although he didnt hate non - Jews, he sometimes went overboard.
MegaJoshin 6 months ago
sometimes war is the only means of ensuring peace, which the arabs rejected time and time again. Rabbi Kahane probably didn't want to hate arabs but its hard not have animosity towards people who are openly trying to wipe you off the map. In accordance with the Torah, he believed that if someone comes to murder you or your family you have the moral obligation to preserve life by defending yourself against those who wish to take it, as it says, "if someone comes to kill you, kill him first", w
breeeegs 2 hours ago
Whats the name of the song at the end of the video?
Florezdeandrade 6 months ago
Kahane's assassination marked the beginning of WW3.
clarkewi 7 months ago
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Let us give thanks to the Mosiach who assassinated this racist blood-lusting leach and rapist of morality, and erased him from the plane of existence. May such evil and ethical degradation never rear its ugly head again. Amen.
OrthodoxDarwinist 8 months ago
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The so called "Palestinians" of today
do not represent a nation or people,
merely a bunch of Wannabe-Nazis.
ThePrideOfIsrael 8 months ago
He sure sounds like Hitler at 3:15...just sayin'
wehaveasituation 9 months ago
@wehaveasituation That's because Hitler was Jewish.
clarkewi 7 months ago
Kahane is sucking some good Nazi dick in hell! HA HA HA HA!
coolasshole23 1 year ago
Rabbi Kahane YH"SHMO was just another Rabbinic establishment type that hid behind women. And hated other Jews even though Orthodoxy has low numbers. According to the World Almanac 2009 page 681 there 1.5 million conservative Jews and 1.5 million reform Jews. Yet by Orthodoxy a big star. So what are they hiding? Clearly the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America are hiding something If it was a high number don’t you think they would release since they "CLAIM" high birth rates.
Adam6275 1 year ago
Kahane זכר קדוש לברכה, saw the future every Israeli lives in today... Arabs trying to rewrite or erase Jewish history, squeezing our land taking it inch by inch. Om Israel Chai!
andyinvietnam 1 year ago
Two eyes for every eye! The Arabs are a bunch of wild animals that need to be tamed. They can't even get along with themselves and the leftist-fascists still delude themselves into believing that we can have a civilized outcome with these barbarians.
hmanxy 1 year ago
somebody needs to get the rest of his douchebag family
tuxxiesmama 1 year ago
Rabbi Kahane had balls!! I couldn't believe anything more untrue. He was a man that would do anything to make a woman happy even if this is something immoral. That is a very weak man.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 yes he had balls but were cut by a brave Palestinian you son of the bitch
SIONISME1 1 year ago
@SIONISME1 The fact that he was murdered simply proves the fact that these Arabs are nothing but a bunch of unbridled animals that need to have a large dose of normalcy forced down their unwilling throats.
hmanxy 1 year ago
KAHANE was the last Jew with the balls. The rest are pussies
aaaaa895 1 year ago
Why do Jews have to live with hatemongers that want to kill them in their own country?
hsm2k3 1 year ago
היהודים למות ... פשוט למות המזוין
and oh yes, fuck kahane and his memory...let him pass into history forgotten...and despised...y'skaldal y's kadash shme raboo fuck kahane and his followers...
gondwanas 1 year ago
"all the arabs aren't worth one jew"? hmm i wonder how many gentiles it takes to equal a jew? this kanhane was a piece of shit. his terror tactics came to an end when G-d destroyed his life. too late, too late for his sickness had already spread.
gondwanas 1 year ago
@gondwanas you're a lucky bastard hiding behind the anonymity of the internet.... wonder if you have the balls to repeat your worthless garbage in the face of a jdl member
tricipher 1 year ago
Announcing November 28 International burn Rabbi Meir Kahane's picture day!!! Please support the festivity!!!
Zackvids 1 year ago
Now Kahane was a modern settler type according to you 80 chazak. I though everything was from the torah according to this nut Kahane and he just practicing the torah. So now Kahane was "modern". The fact that everything they say when you push their buttons is the opposite of what Kahane pretended to be shows that he was a power mad fraud.
Adam6275 1 year ago
Hey Joseph. You are a sick disgusting man. Someone who doesn't agree with Rabbi Kahane has a learning disability. You know very little about the torah and very little about what it means to be a conservative. You are not a religious Jew by the way you behave. And I have seen the video you mention and Kahane comes across either A. An ignoramus or B. A liar. He claims certain Rabbinic idea's are biblical. The man and his followers hate anyone that doesn't bow down to him.
Adam6275 1 year ago
This is why Yitzchak Rabin was assassinated btw. There is a lot of Israel in this video, since then the Keneset have always been more concerned with a civil war between right and left than an Arab uprising.
HToothrot 1 year ago
Yeah sure. Kahane was a conservative or else I am mentally ill. We know the Kahanist would commit violence towards other Jews that don't bow down to them. That is fascism. Kahane did not believe in property rights. That is a liberal.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 Ha! The Macabees first campaign against the Helenist plague wasnt against the Romans.They killed the Jewish leaders who were leading the people astray.That is not Kahanism.Its Judaism.You clearly know next to nothing about Kahane or Judaism, so stop pretending you do.You spout all this random crap as if you know what Rabbi Kahane thought, but you clearly have not listened to more than a few sound bites of him speaking, and you definitely never read any of his works.And who is "we?"
josephmanik 1 year ago
@Adam6275 "Kahanism" is merely Judaism applied to modern times.You still have not answered my four questions.You have no credibility.You are just throwing around your worthless, un-based opinions that have no connection to reality.You really do sound sound mentally ill.You clearly have no sources on anything you've said.Every time I disprove your ridiculous opinions you just bring up another one.Instead of answering back, why dont you go look at some clips of Kahane and then ask yourself...
josephmanik 1 year ago
@Adam6275 ..if you really know what you're talking about. At least then you will be able to make an informed opinion of the man. I would recommend this one:
watch?v=QyKjLyQ-z4M
Its long but if you wade through it you just might learn something. If you dont want to, fine.But stop acting like you know what you're talking about.
josephmanik 1 year ago
@Adam6275 You are a raving lunatic, everyone here realizes that. You're clearly obsessed with never getting loved by a woman in a way that you think is appropriate, and your head is filled with a slurry of garden variety American right wing nonsense.Also all your criticism of Kahane is nonsensical drivel, rooted solely in your deranged fantasy. Of all the smear attacks on him and on modern "settler/kahanist/land of israel" Judaism, yours is the most ridiculous. A communist feminist tyrant!? LOL!
80CHAZAKCHAZAK08 1 year ago
@80CHAZAKCHAZAK08 Yep. That is correct. Kahane was a raving lunatic. You people really project
"AMERICAN right wing nonsense?" So you are saying America was not originally a republic. It certainly wasn't a pure democracy nor did the envision a pure democracy. Again this is just projection.
Yes Kahane's nonsensical idea's were based on his deranged fantasy of ruling over the Jewish people and making sure women put Kach and his party before their family and husband. You people project.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 You don't make sense. If Kahane was the lunatic, it wouldn't be ME projecting would it? Thrice you accuse me of "projection" (Freud is no authority here or anywhere), but on what basis? My YT page is blank, there's no evidence as to my character, how could you assume these accusations are "projection"? Unless that's your favorite psychobabble term to disguise the fact you don't really say anything at all really. I however have your rambling and blog to base my accusation's off of.
80CHAZAKCHAZAK08 1 year ago
@80CHAZAKCHAZAK08 Excuse me. You called me a ranting lunatic and that is what many people called Kahane. So I find it ironic that Kahane's supporters call everyone else that disagrees with them either a self hating jew of if they can't use that definition a raving lunatic which was what many think Kahane was. So it seems to me Kahane' and his cult followers project what he was.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 I know consensus≠truth, but seriously, don't you question why you're alone in your ranting? The stuff you write has no basis in reality, no evidence, and just reeks of panty wearing nutcase. Kahane was out to get husbands and men like you huh? It's all a big conspiracy right? That's why you can't find a women? Anyone who disagrees with you is "projecting" (if anyone has mommy issues it's you)? I've read your comments and stuff on your blog. You're pathetic.
80CHAZAKCHAZAK08 1 year ago
@80CHAZAKCHAZAK08 Mommy issues. You are projecting again. If anything I should have Daddy issues but I understand according to the Kahanist Daddy's don't matter. What is more important is that the women worship Rabbi Kahane. And fathers are only there to serve Rabbi Kahane Thanks again from proving my point. And again please tell me one man Kahane got along with and who his #2 man was. If he didn't have one it again shows that the only man that had problems was Kahane.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@80CHAZAKCHAZAK08 Kahane doesn't even represent many of the settlers as well. He was a politician. Thank G-d he never become PM and I don't think it would have happened anyway. Israel would have been a polce state and he would've use the office of PM to go after his political enemies which we see he has many since his idea's make no sense and wouldn't have worked and he then would have scapegoated other Jews.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275
Kahane lives again Lieberman is a former member of Kach. Israel is slowly becoming a Kahanist state. Israel is the Fourth Reich.
petersz98 1 year ago
Kahane was right
dan2677 1 year ago
One correction. Hides behind interpretations of torah which on many issues there wasn't one opinion to begin with. Certainly issues of voting you can't find some Rabbinic interpretation to hide behind but Kahane the liar that he was pretended to.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 Your ignorance is astonishing. The Jewish Court, the Beis Din worked on voting. Who are you to argue Jewish sources with a rabbi who had a- most likely- complete knowledge of these topics? Everything he EVER said about any Jewish issue has been backed up by irrefutable Torah sources. Take your ignorance and stupidity somewhere else. You are a blight on this video.
josephmanik 1 year ago
@josephmanik Uh, the only one ignorant is you. Most Rabbi's did not accept his "interpretation" of the torah. So you are saying all other Rabbi's are ignorant except Rabbi Kahane. You yourself admit you don't know. "Most Likely". The Bait Din worked on voting. But Kahane was against Democracy and hated Thomas Jefferson even though at that time America was a Republic and not a "Pure Democracy". Kahane hates arabs for having babies. The first command is be fruitful and multiply.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 Wow. I am speechless. Luckily, I can still type. First of all, "most rabbis" or as they should be known "The venerable Mort of Chelm" are YU graduates with a "degree" and the vaunted "Smeicha." These "rabbis" are tested on ONE THING for their Smeicha, Kashrut. If knowing how to take care of your kitchen makes you an authority on matters concerning the survival of Jews, then by all means, take their side. And as for "interpretation," he did not interpret! He would read, WORD FOR WORD...
josephmanik 1 year ago
@josephmanik It is funny you say this because Rabbi Kahane was most closely connected to YU Rabbi's and the MO. In fact he was a clean shaving Rabbi for a long time. He became to the far right to overcompensate in my opinion. Are you aware the the OU site which their Rabbi is Rabbi Joseph Solovachik promotes his wife's book LIbby Kahane's book. So the propaganda you have been fed about Kahane is just not true. Chabad doesn't promote Kahane's wife's book. Only the OU an American Rabbinic group.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 ...out of the Rambam(the only authoritative Jewish source on war) the Talmud, and dozens of other irrefutable sources. But no, your "rabbis" who drive to Shul on Shabbos say otherwise! I am not saying all other rabbis are ignorant, I am saying MOST are ignorant and others are fearful of "What will the GOYIM think?" or "You are only making things worse." The reason I say "most likely" is because I or anyone cannot say that Rabbi Kahane learned every single opinon of every single rav...
josephmanik 1 year ago
@josephmanik Again this is just demonizing the other side. There were those in Judea and Sameria who did not agree with Kahane's approach either.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 ...on the subject. What I CAN say, is that in all of his speeches, interviews an debates, he showed a far superior knowledge of all Torah in the matters of which he spoke. The reason I mentioned the Beit Din is because you said that "Certainly issues of voting you can't find some Rabbinic interpretation." But there are Jewish matters that contain a lot of Halacha regarding voting. What Rabbi Kahane said about Jefferson was that "most Jews think the Jefferson is Judaism." He didnt..
josephmanik 1 year ago
@Adam6275 ..hate him. He said that Judaism is not Democracy! And he is right! Republic or Democracy, it doesnt matter, it still isnt Judaism. And lastly, What Rabbi Kahane said was "I don't want to lose Israel to Arab bullets or Arab babies." He said this because if Judaism is Democracy, then we could be voted into Palestine. And once again your ignorance shows. The first commanment is not "be fruitful and multiply." The first is "I am The Lord Your God." And the "multiply" commandment is a...
josephmanik 1 year ago
@Adam6275 Sorry I didnt realize that the last part didnt post. What I meant to say was that the "be fruitful and multiply" thing is a mitzvah. Meaning that it is meant for Jews. Neither Rabbi Kahane or I have any hatred toward Arabs for having babies, only that they should not be having them in Israel. Rabbi Kahane died as he lived: In servitude of God and all the Jews of the world. I would recommend looking at some of the Youtube clips of Kahane debates or speeches if you actually want listen.
josephmanik 1 year ago
@josephmanik This is being a demagogue. When someone continues to deny they hate a group it is likely because they do hate that group or they know it is an inappropriate hatred. In fact I don't even have a problem with hating the arab's who do want to destroy Israel. We should hate them. To hate arabs because they have children then and calling them multiplying like rabbits is inappropriate as we are suppose to be fruitful and multiply.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@josephmanik To answer your last question on the Jewish Press he did support the Klauss daughter getting a divorce. Second of all he was close to the owners from what I understand. Thirdly again if Jews have low birth rates much of it is because of our liberal policies that don't protect marriage and that can change. A healthy society needs a healthy birth rate or it will not survive. To hate another group for having children is not the right approach and is denial.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 He was close with an editor and several others. He was a very charismatic man and many would call him friend. But this is all opinion. The facts are that his views were very different from the Jewish Press, many times on the opposite extreme. I do not recall the Klauss incident.What is your source? As for your third point, I was not talking about Jewish birth rate vs Arab. I was merely stating that, in your words, he had more faith in Arab babies than Jewish sense, which is a good bet.
josephmanik 1 year ago
@Adam6275 But that is in your words. You talk of "society" as if the peaceful coexistence of Arabs and Jews in Israel is a confirmed fact. The "healthy birth rate" is a race to be the majority, being Kahane's point of Zionism over Democracy. If you say that we need a Democracy, then you are saying that the Arabs have a right to vote Israel into a Palestine. There is no hate for Arabs having babies. There is a concern that our very existence is at stake, and Democracy is the problem.
josephmanik 1 year ago
@josephmanik So every country that has low birth rates should ban democracy. You don't realize how pathetic you sound. This isn't torah. This is the result of feminism which will lead to dictatorship which Kahane being the wimp he was didn't want to deal with as he wanted women to spend time seeking political power (so he didn't have to worry about other men) rather then get married and be a wife and mother.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 Wow. You completely misunderstood me.I am saying that with ISRAEL'S current policies(Democracy) the Arab population is creating a problem that gets worse by the day.I sound pathetic?! Where the hell did you get feminism, dictatorship,hidden leftist, and hating babies ludicrous mixed up with Kahanism? Kahane was WEAK?!!! He wasnt following Torah?!! I SOUND PATHETIC?!!! I sincerely hope that you are trying to parody the leftist insanity, for your sake. If not, I truly feel bad for you.
josephmanik 1 year ago
@Adam6275 I had tried to make a point originally, but it seems to have been lost in translation.I will try to make it clear with the following questions.1)Do you live in Israel? 2)Are you a Torah-observant Jew? 3)Do you have an extensive knowledge of Rabbi Kahane's life and his works? 4)Do you have an extensive experience with Arabs from all walks of life?....If you answer "No" to all these questions, then you have no right to impose your opinions on those who answer "Yes."
josephmanik 1 year ago
@josephmanik I see. So you anoint yourself and Kahane is allowed to speak but no one else. What arrogance!!! This is typical liberalism that only you know and no one else is qualified. Excuse me what makes Rabbi Kahane an expert on arabs. He grew up in Brooklyn and was a Pulpit Rabbi and a writer for the Jewish Press. His wife was a librarian. This makes someone an expert on arabs. Of course it doesn't. And who said Kahane was 100% observant either. You act like you and Kahane are G-d.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 You should get help.You seem to have a learning disability or you are just plain stupid.I have no "anointed" anyone.I have merely made the point that because you clearly have no experience in any of these matters, and are talking out of of your ass, your views on these subject are worth less than nothing.You seem to think that if you say mention two ideas in the paragraph, that they are now joined at the hip.You seem to know a little bit about the Rabbi's early life, but nothing at...
josephmanik 1 year ago
@Adam6275 ..all about his later years.Meaning his last forty years of life in ISRAEL!!! Where he is known all over the world because of his EXPERIENCE WITH ARABS! You display the most extreme "arrogance of ignorance" I have ever personally witnessed. He can't be an expert on Arabs because his wife was a librarian?! I really would like to ask if you realize how stupid you sound, but I am afraid of the answer.I didnt say 100% observant.I said Torah observant.Versus "Temple Rabbi Observant."
josephmanik 1 year ago
@Adam6275 And I dont have to be God to know that you are either insane and an ignoramus, or smart and having a laugh. It seem to be the former.I am very far from a liberal.I have extremely religious, right wing views. And saying Kahane was a liberal?! Please, stop embarrassing yourself.
josephmanik 1 year ago
@Adam6275 I live in the Shomeron(Samaria). I do hate Arabs. I hate them because of the brothers and sisters of mine that they murdered.I hate them for the unprovoked wars that they started.I hate them for the affront to God created by Jewish weakness. I hate them for making us live in fear. But that is not why I want them gone.I want them gone because it is the Torah's commandment.And because I am a Jew who gives a damn about the future of all Jews, and of the continuation of the Torah way. R u?
josephmanik 1 year ago
Kahane was an apostate. His ugly idea's were not torah but is what you get with a man who just hides behind the torah for his own power grabs and has other people do the dirty work which his own wife pretend don't exist. The way he treated men who didn't have connections show he didn't love and fear the G-d of Israel. He also supported the liberal divorce policies of the Jewish Press as does his wife who works as a librarian by the way and her salary is paid for by the gov't.
Adam6275 1 year ago
@Adam6275 wtf?
pfpalya 1 year ago
Kahana, according to the Torah was right, however his suggested policies were something that did not look good on paper and was a mere fantasy. It never would of happened. We are lucky G-d gave us Israel. G-d cut us some slack there, but to truly be the kingdom of G-d we must wait for the Mashiach.
3rdSamurai 1 year ago
Kahane Tzadik!!
Odkahane18 1 year ago
LOL, look at the liberals killing themselves with whistles. they are clearly regretting the decision to blow in whistles for an hour. they are making themselves deaf
JewishAndRight 1 year ago
מוות לערבים כהנא צדק
AnGeLkUrTcObAiN666 1 year ago
call him a racist or wtvr, but we see it more and more every day: Kahane was right!
molataz 1 year ago 13
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On You Tube you see young Jewish women who are both zionist and feminist and they do view having many children as multiplying like rabbits like Rabbi Kahane did.. This is why Kahane is a fraud and low birth rates will mean that we will be more threatened by anybody else then we should be and of course will send OTHER MEN TO DIE. The word Womb and the word Mercy have the same root. Kahane was a faker and a very evil man.
Adam6275 1 year ago
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You live by the sword...
ValerieBarlow 1 year ago
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I think you are the only one Yac.
You're who ideology is based on pride and it sadly makes you and your girl friends view's are very disturbing.
Adam6275 1 year ago
I think righteous women are great! And I think Yehudit is so righteous!
YacovMenashe 1 year ago
Kahane was Right! The greatest leader in Modern History!
ptp44444 1 year ago 11
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Yacov on his site admits he is a liberal Modern Orthodox Jew but is a so called right winger when it comes to Israel. You can't be right wing if your religious and moral views are left wing as Yac admits but Rabbi Kahane himself was a left wing Feminist Modern Orthodox Jew
Adam6275 1 year ago
Modern Orthodox Liberal is a label on Frumster. Liberal refers to religious observance level, not religious ideology. My religious ideology is Right Wing Zionist Nationalism, AKA Kahanism. BTW, I think Frumster is bad because they just want to make money. I had to pay them money just to see that a woman wanted someone more Machmir than me. I know you don't like Frumster either.
YacovMenashe 1 year ago
I called them and asked them to refund the money and delete my account but they refused to and they said there is no option to delete an account.
YacovMenashe 1 year ago
Kahane Chai!
YacovMenashe 1 year ago
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meir kahane was as fascist as they come. you give him and his disciples the power and they will be as bad as the nazies. it is funny that the american jews are more zionist than most the jews in israel. but the americans are only so radical while the remain in cozy america.
amiramx 1 year ago
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true, true
ValerieBarlow 1 year ago
And he supported the divorce of the Jewish Press's daughter and the Jewish Press falling into the no fault divorce camp and screwing Jewish men (which in some cases screws Jewish women as well if they bring money into the relationship. No fault divorce does not respect anyone's property.) To this day his wife has not said a word about this. She could. But political power is more important then truth to this movement.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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Ha Ha Ha! Kahane defended the Jewish people. Oh, really! Is that why every publication he has worked for works against fathers and hate men that actually work for a living and only like men who are lawyers or dishonest Rabbi's. He didn't defend me and I am Jewish man. SO this is bunch of rubbish. This movement thinks it is above G-d and hates what the relgion really has to say.
Adam6275 2 years ago
In the 1930s and 40s there were men that wore grey uniforms, swastikas and steel helmets that screamed dirty jews and kill the jews. they ended up killing 6 million. today they wear suits and ties call themselves politicians and scream "palestinian state." its the same enemy. they just wear a different uniform and sing a different tune. Kanahe was the only one that stood up to them. now that hes gone, who will defend the jewish people?
TallBrooklynGuy 2 years ago 18
@TallBrooklynGuy Everyone knows there was no such thing as the "holocaust" its just a modern day jewish fairy tale like parting of seas, building an ark, turning to salt, etc.
tekubus 6 months ago
@tekubus everyone? maybe your motherfucked nazi friends and you think so but the majority of the people is intelligent
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LOL Yac. I see so your deal leader we can never criticize but everyone else is fair game. I see you apply these rules in a very rational way. Sad to say IMO you are Yac (not on a physical level) but on an emotional level a pimp. You like to use women to promote your causes although they have more important issues then this. Sadly it takes two to tango and they don't mind being used because they put political power before understanding their obligations as a woman and one of childbearing age.
Adam6275 2 years ago
You are committing Motzi Shem Ra. It's beyond Lashon HaRa because it's not even true. Our comments don't make us look foolish. But yours make you look foolish. You are committing Chillul HaShem.
YacovMenashe 2 years ago
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Their idol worship continues. Watch KY remove their next comment. Yac too. You wonder why I don't want them on my channel. They are idol worshippers. Do you trust people who just take down every comment they make because they know it would make them look foolish.
They are what G-d spoke about. Stubborn stiff necked Jews. They don't know anything about their torah. G-d will never be with this movement and they have been warned but they will continue to curse the holy G-d of Israel's name.
Adam6275 2 years ago
YEY!
YacovMenashe 2 years ago
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I understand you think you do what you want KY. Which just shows deep down that you don't respect anybody else. Love of the Jewish people. What a load of bull crap. Just a woman that wants to do what SHE WANTS. You don't love anyone KY except youself. Sicko woman. Please people. See for youself that this movement is a fraud movement which people that ANNOINT THEMSELVES as some sort of leaders and pathological liars that couldn't care about their own people as they never listen to anyone.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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What a bunch of sicko's. Of course I am not even allowed to have my view. They rationalize everything. The G-d of Israel will never be with this movement. They know nothing about anything as well. Yacov doesn't work and KY is just a single woman that is more concerned about Political Power then using what G-d have her to get married and have a family. Her priorities are messed up and her actions speak louder then words and because of this she knows nothing not being a wife or mother.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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I don't want you on my channel KY. If you can't respect that then you really are a bad woman and I consider it harassement. .
It is sad but you put some political power you want over what you should be using your time now as a 27 year old woman. It is disgusting KY and you know I don't want someone that just suddenly decides not to talk on a forum to a man she was working with for a month and then starts talking to other men. You are on an emotional level a slut sadly and you don't get it.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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Yacov is gong on how much he misses Yehudit although her first hebrew name is Miriam.This is more then just a friendship although there is no touching. This movement always rationalizes when it comes to women and at the end of the day really make women look like dirtbags. Which is why I don't think the holy G-d of Israel is with this movement. The Kahanist think they own all the women and view other Jewish men as the enemy. It is disgusting and the sign of Jew hatred. Pharoh just killed the boys
Adam6275 2 years ago
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And anyway before I decided to read what was written here I did change my comments somewhat. The movement is very sexually twisted although yes they don't touch or have relations. But there is more then just physical . You don't like that. Sorry. I have made mistakes but it seems extremly unlikely from discussing it on different sites I am here. You may have a lot to answer for by your denial. Kahane playboy interview. Attract men that only see women as an object. Great. I am tired of your games
Adam6275 2 years ago
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You here this. Ahavat Yisrael. Yeah. I stated why I blocked you and you obviously don't like the reason. I blocked Yacov as well. Ahavat Yisrael (love of Israel). Please, Yehudit, You have expressed so much hate towards others so you should expect it back. Puting a man on medication because I don't bow down to them. Love of Israel.Uh-Huh. I don't want you or Yacov on my channel. I'm leting you be. That is too much for you. Yacov loving a sick woman like Lisa. You are immoral to support this.
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YacovMenashe 2 years ago
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Yes, Yacov and Yehudit are "just friends".
Most REAL RELIGIOUS JEWS would not approve this Until Yehudit decides to find another man to "just be friends with" for a month and not talk to Yacov for a month. Because, ahem, she wasn't feeling well. But yes because she doesn't touch that makes her holy.
What a disgusting evil man Rabbi Kahane was. SInce his evil is continuing with his sick followers who want to medicate anyone who disagrees. Twisted sexual deviants. "JUST FRIENDS". Yeah.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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Yes Yacov supports the vile woman Lisa who likes the racist guy CF who has now used a lot of other names who only likes women who don't bear children and want to adopt but loves to put a picture of a pretty woman. Lisa the old fart would use CF to make sure other women don't bear children. The Kahanist are left wing antisocial goons who think because they don't touch each other that makes them pure. They would put you on medication if you don't bow down to them. Sexually twisted freaks.
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YacovMenashe 2 years ago
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I hate Rabbi Kahane with all my heart and all my soul. I know him and his fellow Rabbi's (the OU is promoting his wife's book) just want to abuse their own men so they can have all the women to themselves as they are afraid of men who ask questions and use their analytical skills. They were jealous of another man's wife. Chaim Ben Pesach learned from his master well in abusing men as of course CBP was very involved in JDL and Kahane. Who is Libby kidding. (Typical Kahanist type woman)
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YacovMenashe 2 years ago
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The person you worship Kahane has done exactly that. Attacked people who were defenseless and all you have to do is take a look at Arutz Sheva and see again and again he has followers behave in every situation I have discussed it. If that is the person you want to worship even though he did nothing for Israel when it comes down to it I don't see why I shouldn't be over judgemental as Kahane was over judgemental. You have been extremely judgemental in many situations so stop acting so innocent.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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I'm glad you recognize and find this wrong as it is wrong and really shows them to be hypocrites IMO. Bigger picture wise if they just ban men for various capricious reasons how could men in the end really trust them. The answer is, they can't. Many Jewish men have no where to turn. The torah tells us not to be ruthless to our own since in Egypt we were treated ruthlessly.
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YacovMenashe 2 years ago
Gotta love Kahane.
AlexanderMaccabee 2 years ago 19
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Go to page 6 of the Arutz Sheva forum on Israel and you will see the exchange I had about Rabbi Kahane and his supporters support of liberal divorce ideology and thinking whenever a woman wants a divorce the man should have to pay the women and give up the children and if not beat up the man. If it is true that at one point Kahane had to work hard to support his wife and family his harshness to other men is very evil and shows his hatred to his fellow Jew.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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The item that turned me against JTF (but is typical of most Kahanist group) was when JTF attacked young men who were passively involved in the Gush Katif situation. I don't have symapthy for those who abused and intimidated Jews in Gush Katif but the one's who in their heart didn't think it was right but had no one to help them go against it I don't hate them. Further, JTF used the women to attack them. Well were the women before this. DId they help the men or only wait till they screw up.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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I have experienced this myself where I haven't been perfect but no one helps you when you need the help. They only wait till you at some point you don't do 100% the right thing and then attack you but offered you no help before then and was openly hostile to help you if you took the difficult position that may lead you to bad consequences. A lot of men don't trust JTF. Kahanist in general have shown hatred to other Jewish men becaue they want multiple Jewish women to themselves. .
Adam6275 2 years ago
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Sad to say JTF is a very bad group that have a history of abusing Jewish men even when they should show compassion (like most Kahanist group) and having twisted idea's of male-female relations. Why would a so called "relgious" group continue to have someone like Dr. Brennan Fan a man who only likes women that don't want to have children and only want to adopt. It's a responsibility but G-d gave women the ability to bear children and bring life during their prime years of their life.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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Well Yehudit. If that is true it is good to hear. It seems like you are more focused on jobs and degree's then other issues. I could be wrong. On the forum it does seem the people there kiss up to you for the slightest thing which is not good. I don't know what else to say. I hope if you are getting married it is to man that works and I hope you do serve as a healthy role model of husband-wife. It isn't just you Yehudit but a woman's husband does come before a Rabbi who has his own wife IMO.
Adam6275 2 years ago
Od Kahane Chai!
Join JTF d()t ()rg!
r3t4y5 2 years ago 16
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Kahane's idea's were absurd. He claimed Judaism was not democracy and Thomas Jefferson but this shows how little he understood about America as America WAS NOT ORIGINALY A PURE DEMOCRACY. You had to own property and the head of the household as it as felt the family was a unit to itself. Men that didn't own property did not vote although widows and single women who owned property did. It devolved from there as soon men who did not own property could vote. These idea's are based on the Bible.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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Kahane's idea was to give ALL NONJEWS ZERO RIGHTS because maybe they would become the majority which has no basis in torah and the torah warns us not to mistreat a stranger as we were stangers in Israel. Yes, we should not have compassion on a 5th column but those that are friendly to us we have no right to give them no rights. But Kahane did not view the family as sacred and in fact worked for a paper that the men were jealous of another man's wife and due to this believed stories with no proof
Adam6275 2 years ago
Kahana was right !!!
metalic699 2 years ago 11
הוא צדקקקקקקקקקקקקקקקקק
bmarzel 2 years ago 11
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And anyway, Yehudit if you really wanted to help the Jewish people I think you would get married already instead of wasting your childbearing years with degrees and men that kiss up to you but you can't marry.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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The Kahanist believe the worst about Jewish men because they have this messianic complex that they think when the messiah comes they will have polygomy although this was never an ideal. And to achieve this end they accuse other Jewish men of horrible crimes with no evidence. Don't you know one of the 10 commandments Yehudit is not to be jealous of another man's wife. G-d understands human nature. These men are rationalizing their hatred by claiming they want to PROTECT other women.
Adam6275 2 years ago
I mean doesn't that bother you Yehudit. I know you want men to tell you how great you are Yehudit although you haven't done anything that anyone should respect you. Just being born a woman doesn't mean people should respect you, Yehudit. You had nothing to do with this.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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Yes I am. This in relation to bringing this up on Arutz Sheva and men telling me that Rabbi Kahane wasn't a feminist because they believe in beating up men if they don't divorce fast enough. OK!! And having SYMPATHY for Jewish women who marry arab men that Jewish men should die for traitor Jewish women like this. Kahanist believe the worst about Jewish men and believe men beat their wives even though groups like Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting have shown this is nonsense.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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Rabbi Kahane was the living definition of Extreme evil. If G-d forbid he came to power he would use the gov't to attack Jewish men and like most of the leaders his talk would have been seen for what it is. Go to the Arutz Sheva forum and see for yourself. Kahanist feel they have the right to abuse other Jewish men when they want to ruin another man's marraige because they are jealous of another man's wife. Rabbi Kahane was a fraud of the highest order and he is roasting in hell right now.
Adam6275 2 years ago
He saw the future and warned us, he was ignored and it came to pass. Arabs were the only ones who took him seriously. How can Jews be so stupid?
AbuAvital 2 years ago 9
The rights thah Kahane proposed for gentiles in Israel looks awfully similar to Nurnberg laws...
TheHedonist27 2 years ago
does anyone know what song that is at the end? thanks in advance
MuddyManu1 2 years ago 5
It is Shalom Hanoch singing Mechakim LaMashiach (Waiting for the Moshiach)
thesystemworks 2 years ago 7
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He was a right wing nutjob and his influence can be seen in the current Israeli conflict.
P.S. before you attack know that I am an ethnic Jew who was raised jewish and generaly a supporter of Israel.
beefygoblin 2 years ago
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Death to Kaha....ne....wait!
He's already dead! YEAAAAAA HAAAAA!!!!
Old bastard is in hell, preaching racism to the devils and demons surrounding him, probably with his entrails in his mouth and hooks through his eyes.
What a thing: to preach "Death to the Arabs" and "Death to the Kibbutznikim" to found the racist religious theocracy he dreamt twisted dreams of seeing come to life.
So happy to have an exemplar of the pinnacle of human vice rotting and crawling with worms deep in the ground!
bigollameo 2 years ago
Kahane was one of the greatest Jewish leaders in our modern history.
Although he is dead, he lives (Kahane Chai ) in our hearts and souls. His ideology will never fade away. It is a vibrant light.
Rest in Peace, Kahane the Saint
njdevils613 2 years ago 14
Kahane chai and he lives in our hearts
the one who knew he was gonna be murdered by the muslim terrorists and yet came up to protect his people
idan2bar2bar1 2 years ago 11
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Fuck Kahane and his followers may he continue to rot in hell and be fucked by dirty pigs day and night! He was filthy cunt!
wildmanauh 2 years ago
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Rabbi Kahane was a fraud! He really was a left wing marxist feminist. He worked for a paper the Jewish Press that supports liberal divorce idea's and openly supports raising Jewish children without a father. Of course someone like this will end up thinking ALL DEMOCRACY IS EVIL. The Soviets also used no fault divorce in the early 1900's. So Kahane was a fraud who really supported liberal idea's of divorce and went to the extreme right because he was afraid of being exposed.
Adam6275 2 years ago
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Kahane was a bumbling old fool
JBsAskTheApe 2 years ago
KAHANE CHAI!! KOCH!!
lonesomecowboyjew 2 years ago 14
My Hero and the greatest leader of the past 100 years.
scforjoey 2 years ago
משיח גם לא יבוא...
shachar10 2 years ago
R.I.P
ganjafarmer85 2 years ago
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Good riddance.
flyhead2 2 years ago
Somebody who never lived among muslim arabs and has never experienced Msulims' aggressivity, intolerance and hostility towards anything not their kind, and Jewish in particular, will not understand that Kahane was right in everything he said. He will think it is outrageous.
Only when Europeans have become Dhimmis under the rulership of muslims in their own countries, they will understand, but then it will be too late.
nevernohijab 2 years ago 5
I've met some cool Arabs They seemed pretty chill.
GorterPoss 2 years ago
Sure, there might be. I am not evaluating people. All people have a divine core. I am talking about what their cult is doing to them.
nevernohijab 2 years ago
His list of proposals are exactly what the nazis imposed on jews, especially the no sexual relations part, remember in shindlers list he was put in jail for 'kissing' a jewish woman, if that's a jewish concept then hitler's principles were a 'jewish' concept.
Averyofthemain 2 years ago
Kahane Will ALWAYS be Right - MAY HIS BLOOD BE AVENGED!!!
willischai 2 years ago 3
The movement also attracts very abusive men that enjoy making false sexual accusations. Just see my channel. All bogus to get back at me because I don't think highly of Rabbi Kahane. Why is that a suprise? The same thing went on in the newspaper the Jewish Press.
Adam6275 2 years ago
Kahane openly had more trust in arab's having babies then Jews. Of course this leads to women that rather then get married and be humble think their own life is about thinking they are better then men. Kahane worked for a paper that supported easy divorce and yes career women and divorced women against the man's will seem to be attracted to Kahanism. Kahane was aginst democracy because of feminism as he said JEWS MAY BECOME THE MINORITY. No healthy society does this happen.
Adam6275 2 years ago
the reason why the arabs wiped out him and his family but hugged rabin is obvious
100flyingfish 2 years ago
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"Rabbi" Meir Kahane was a marxist feminist criminal. I hate this piece of garbage with all my heart. They attract women that brag about divorcing their husbands and taking their money like the criminals they are like this jap JTF has republcandox. Pigs. YM"SHMO to this antisemitic woman.
Adam6275 2 years ago
How can you blame Kahane for the behavior of this woman?
clockworkorange1986 2 years ago
כהנא צדק !!!
ISdani10 2 years ago 2
This "rabbi" is an example that nazi-fascism can don many costumes, but the crimes, whether ordained by "god", a komissar or a fuhrer, will always be against all that human civilization should stand for.
levdbronstein 3 years ago
Frightening man.
LoveOfRighteousness 3 years ago
May G-d give Jews the courage to recognise themselves and stand up against their masters...again.
Amen.
001001110110 3 years ago 2
I should add th is is a very very bad recording
inachu 3 years ago
I pray to the holy G-d of Israel that this movement remains at best an extreme fringe that has no real power and is hated by the average decent Jewish person out there. Kahane was a liar and a fraud. Their hatred to anyone who does not worship their idol Rabbi Meir Kahane even though they support Israel and Judea and Sameria knows no bounds. Just check my channel for the kind of language they use. STAY AWAY FROM ANY KAHANE GROUP AT ALL COSTS. THey pretend they are right wing but are frauds.
Adam6275 3 years ago
He is such a racist. I am sure he is satans love toy now.
inachu 3 years ago
Rabbi Kahane was a fraud. He really was an extreme left winger. He supported the divorce the daughter of the editor of the JEwish Press getting a divorce against his will. The daughter of a Rabbi and a major Jewish newspaper is not likely a victim so how much money they extorted from the guy and the lies they said who knows what they did to the poor guy. This is pure marxism and hatred of your own. For the slightest thing just take all the money away from a guy.
Adam6275 3 years ago
he had to go......... I hope hell is comfortable.
calcutor 3 years ago
ya....well, because his murderer walked free, that led to the 93 bombing of the wtc , 9/11 and the iraq war
which in turn is bringing down the usa
moral of the story
DONT EFF WITH THE JEWS
brabon1 3 years ago
"I am not you stooge-we'll give it to you!"
"Two eyes for every eye!"
Moti2008 3 years ago
After 2 miracles one in 1948 and one in 1967, Jews missed their biggest chance at solving the Israel's problem.Arabs fled the lands after defeat,they expected Jews to massacre them.They knew of the horrible deeds they had done to the Jews over the centuries of living together.That is why they fled,but it was Jews like you who did the opposite,invited them back and didn't kick them out.Now those arabs who weren't kicked out will haunt israel forever.Good hearts, but you were misguided idealists.
halpyman 3 years ago
Oh, come on, halpyman, this guy seriously preach hate, and if you read some of Rabbinical writings you would know it comes from there. I believe Muslims should get out of Israel and go to a Muslim country. And I'm not a liberal.
caliisactive1559 3 years ago 2
I'm not Jewish.
caliisactive1559 3 years ago 3
This is what happens when you read and fallow the Talmud. The difference between him and others is that he said it publicly, and I'm not an anti-semite, I'm just stating the facts.
caliisactive1559 3 years ago
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this was a rally after cold blooded killings of jews by arabs. Everybody was enraged, and what you see here shows the rift within judaism. The liberal who doesn't understand that any Israeli arab will never accept a jewish state, And that they one day they will multiply to the majority and change Israel forever. The other side are the realists that no what arabs would have done to jews if they won the 48 or 67 wars. The realist who doesn't forgive countless massacres of jews before 48' by arabs
halpyman 3 years ago
I'm a Catholic who has done research on Talmud. Most of the online quotes you see are deliberate mistranslations AND they are ALL without context. I can give you many examples. Kahanism only partially comes from the Talmud AND the part that does was from an era when Jews were massacred for being Jews
Musicofthissphere 2 years ago 3