Glad to hear after all those years,,, the drumming,,,, still kept that totally unique hemeola flavour. I bet the underground ''unauthorized '' versions are to die for !!
Brings a whole new meaning to,,, ''this band rocks !""
This is the 4th Shaggs video that I've watched/listen to in a row. Please someone get over here and kill me. What...nobody will stop me? Then I'm clicking on another Shaggs video.
freewheeling style? the drums still sound like a drunken sailor cajoling with a group of, well, you get the picture. At least the guitars are in tune (and in rythm) in this one . . .
" . . . at the peak of their technical skills" - I love it. They had apparently had a couple of music lessons by this time. The main reason it's less than 90 seconds long is because if it went longer it would have been far too musically challenging to them, sort of like expecting a 5 year old child to be able to play "Moonlight Sonata" on piano. Seriously though, couldn't you just imagine these girls with bagpipes and an accordion in the band?
The sad thing about it is they have gone from being something totally unique to being just another instrumental group, the same as 10,000 others...i can't believe i'm actually writing this but I prefer "my Pal foot-foot"
Maybe at the peak of their "technical" skills but, and i can't believe i'm actually saying this..I prefer "my Pal foot foot"..this is just bland cr*p like anyone else can play..they've lost that spark somehow
Just when I thought I had the Shaggs figured out, they go and play something almost normal. I wonder if the wide variance in their technical skill has something to do with how *coached* they are on a particular recording.
Yes, this is when the indispensable Shaggs got good! Certain respectable, though I miss their more sincere, more raw, more out of tune, wonderful earlier stuff.
lol, they never sold out... they always tried there best from the start... and "You're Something Special to Me" is my jam, and it's one of their more technically advanced songs
I love foot-foot too! Of course, I will sing it to my cats, and they will love it.
All the Shaggs needed was to hook with a neighbor-friend who had had a few lessons and played keyboards. Straight to the top. Like Heart, but with lots, lots more of it. I love them!
Are there any bootlegs of their performances when they got better? I'm interested to hear how some songs from Philosophy of the World sounded like when played more proficiently.
@HappyDesertSeagull: "more proficiently?" What do you mean? When a musician reaches a stage virtually beyond virtual virtuousity, proficiency is not an issue.
Look, put it this way: What guitarist, no matter how advanced his chops, could duplicate these performances? Many will try, of course, as the Shaggs ouvre enters the Great American Songbook, and today's Jazz masters cover these tunes.
Wheels, of course, will be the "Giant Steps" of this century, studied at the jazz colleges.
@HappyDesertSeagull I saw them live in NYC in 1999, apparently the only show they'd ever played since their original days. It was pandemonium. They only did four songs, but the packed crowd knew every line and sang along. But to address your question: They sounded EXACTLY the same. The opening strum to "Philosophy of the World" still went, "drang drang drang drang..." I loved it.
@HappyDesertSeagull Seems like "more proficiently" would remove an essential element of their sound, bringing them into the mediocre. The beauty of The Shaggs was that they landed smack-dab in the middle of avant garde quite naturally. It is utterly impossible to reproduce their sound without pretense and "faking it."
I actually feel disappointed that none of their songs quite rock the off-beat different-ness of "My Pal Foot Foot" which I really love. The intense non-conventionality of the songs is amazing, and as much as it hurts me to listen I keep coming back to it and enjoying it. It's not that they're just making noise, they're very intentionally playing something that isn't what we expect as listeners to hear, and it's wonderful yet awful.
no but dont you see? thats the whole point--their best stuff was when they sucked! this song is way too institutionalized. their first record was the way to go
Here we go! Music by The Shaggs I can come closer to enjoying! It mostly just feels like they're finally able to play exactly what they had envisioned earlier but couldn't then perform.
@mjmcnult I was surprised that they sounded as good, but then the end of the piece showed me I had the right idea after all and that this is just a fluke
They got better and regressed.
vampyros1 2 months ago
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healthypanda 3 months ago
The ending reminds of the first time you ride a bike, balance. Check, Pedal, check. Steering, check. Stop and get off. Uh'oh
semiza 5 months ago
Glad to hear after all those years,,, the drumming,,,, still kept that totally unique hemeola flavour. I bet the underground ''unauthorized '' versions are to die for !!
Brings a whole new meaning to,,, ''this band rocks !""
AUDIOPHILE1956 6 months ago
Exhibit A.
The murder weapon.
0:31
EdiblePlanets 6 months ago
This is the 4th Shaggs video that I've watched/listen to in a row. Please someone get over here and kill me. What...nobody will stop me? Then I'm clicking on another Shaggs video.
foghat77 6 months ago 6
I disliked it because they didn't stay true to their sound
setyourselfonfireeee 7 months ago
What guitars are they playing? Those axes got killer looks
wanabeknut 7 months ago 2
Nice drumming, Helen.
ClaasEngels 7 months ago 6
what this wasn't even written by them! read the description. and it's not even the original members it seems
lolimfranco 7 months ago
I DONT WANT THEM TO SOUND LIKE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING :)
cullyvan 8 months ago 4
freewheeling style? the drums still sound like a drunken sailor cajoling with a group of, well, you get the picture. At least the guitars are in tune (and in rythm) in this one . . .
woodsy3252 8 months ago 2
They've been practising!
55chh 8 months ago 2
No singing.
Thats an improvement.
Now if we could just eliminate the drums and guitars.
EdiblePlanets 8 months ago 4
" . . . at the peak of their technical skills" - I love it. They had apparently had a couple of music lessons by this time. The main reason it's less than 90 seconds long is because if it went longer it would have been far too musically challenging to them, sort of like expecting a 5 year old child to be able to play "Moonlight Sonata" on piano. Seriously though, couldn't you just imagine these girls with bagpipes and an accordion in the band?
elc1960 9 months ago
Wow, that was actually less horrible than most of their ...., uh, work...
jlillie2 9 months ago 4
3 string bass guitars are actually 25 percent easier to play than 4 string bass guitars,it's scientifical.
omahgarsh 10 months ago 3
The sad thing about it is they have gone from being something totally unique to being just another instrumental group, the same as 10,000 others...i can't believe i'm actually writing this but I prefer "my Pal foot-foot"
lanciafulvia 10 months ago 3
Wait a minute...is this...COMPETENT?! Why yes it is!
sonicdeath10 10 months ago 2
I have to admit i'm torn between this tight, refined version of the Shaggs and the free wheeling style of their Philosophy of the world.
snoopyflick 1 year ago 4
omg LEARN TO PLAY INSTRUMENTS but the shaggs remain the same crap
Danzzition 1 year ago
0:21 I love the three-string bass.
aaaaaaaaaajgvgjyc 1 year ago
Ariel Pink said this was the saddest record he knew. He used to cry listening to it.
PorroFirst 1 year ago
This sounds like Liquid Tension Experiment after listening to My Pal Foot Foot...
KingZerxst 1 year ago 10
is this rly by the shaggs? i know the answer but what happened to them?!?!?!?! lol
shit311 1 year ago
This tune is a little to overproduced, and it doesn't come near "my pal foot foot" when it comes to groove!
GreatBonFire 1 year ago
ugliest band ever?
budpurps 1 year ago
@budpurps hmmm...maybe...or the Ramones.
MrNoelJMIS 1 year ago
i am a fan of all of this music... it's good in a weird way... like daniel johnston or any acquired sound
jenniferkay91 1 year ago
This just sounds like a bad garage band, certainly much better than that other awful excuse for music like "My Pal Foot-Foot" and "It's Halloween".
jameala 1 year ago
@jameala Hey! Foot-Foot is a classic!
2SilverRings 1 year ago
Maybe at the peak of their "technical" skills but, and i can't believe i'm actually saying this..I prefer "my Pal foot foot"..this is just bland cr*p like anyone else can play..they've lost that spark somehow
lanciafulvia 1 year ago
I prefer "It's Halloween" . :)
sixtieskid062 1 year ago
Learning how to play their instruments was a bad move - A kind of trip into mediocracy.
clumpft 1 year ago
Just when I thought I had the Shaggs figured out, they go and play something almost normal. I wonder if the wide variance in their technical skill has something to do with how *coached* they are on a particular recording.
1Doz 1 year ago
OMG. IT actually sounds like a SONG!
tonydominoactor 1 year ago
it still has this great innocence to it, and i can hear some of my current favorite artists' riffs in the riffs from this song.
i'm slowly falling in love with The Shaggs.
JivaRiah 1 year ago
Yes, this is when the indispensable Shaggs got good! Certain respectable, though I miss their more sincere, more raw, more out of tune, wonderful earlier stuff.
ivycompton 1 year ago
Just a few extra drum frills but she was almost in time on this one.
webwillie1 1 year ago 2
i heart outsider music this rules
lazerjim1 1 year ago
Wow, looks like they actually learned to play in time for their second album.
geldofpunk32 1 year ago
i love the pix of the bass with only three strings...classis!!!!!
Supermeatloaf66 1 year ago
That drummer looks like the tall girl that used to beat me up on the playground...boo hoo. The Shaggs are awesome.
MMRD50 1 year ago
lol, they never sold out... they always tried there best from the start... and "You're Something Special to Me" is my jam, and it's one of their more technically advanced songs
Rodney17302 1 year ago
I was unaware the shapgs in fact had technical skills.
dave1983cm 1 year ago
awh no! :O she actually learned to drum
mrsgeeway80 1 year ago
Wow, they really aimed for the mainstream with this one... sellouts. I am glad this was never released. Long live TRVE underground music!
MuhammedTheDog 1 year ago
whats this ?? its really disappointing from the shaggs this actually resembles "normal' music!!! they sold out!!
mugwamp4 1 year ago
They have no wheels
OrcanLord 1 year ago
i prefer my pal foot foot
phildirt3 1 year ago
I have grave doubts that the melody line, which really isn't too bad, is by an authentic Shagg. It does sound like their drummer though.
monaleisure 1 year ago
Wow The Shaggs staying in time? Am I hearing this? Best Shaggs song ever (And it's still shit)
harrytheblurfan 1 year ago
I love foot-foot too! Of course, I will sing it to my cats, and they will love it.
All the Shaggs needed was to hook with a neighbor-friend who had had a few lessons and played keyboards. Straight to the top. Like Heart, but with lots, lots more of it. I love them!
Mooser42001 1 year ago
The only song in which they play good, I would say XD
andrewcgs 1 year ago
Are there any bootlegs of their performances when they got better? I'm interested to hear how some songs from Philosophy of the World sounded like when played more proficiently.
HappyDesertSeagull 2 years ago 21
@HappyDesertSeagull: "more proficiently?" What do you mean? When a musician reaches a stage virtually beyond virtual virtuousity, proficiency is not an issue.
Look, put it this way: What guitarist, no matter how advanced his chops, could duplicate these performances? Many will try, of course, as the Shaggs ouvre enters the Great American Songbook, and today's Jazz masters cover these tunes.
Wheels, of course, will be the "Giant Steps" of this century, studied at the jazz colleges.
Mooser42001 1 year ago
@HappyDesertSeagull I saw them live in NYC in 1999, apparently the only show they'd ever played since their original days. It was pandemonium. They only did four songs, but the packed crowd knew every line and sang along. But to address your question: They sounded EXACTLY the same. The opening strum to "Philosophy of the World" still went, "drang drang drang drang..." I loved it.
friendlier 1 year ago
@HappyDesertSeagull You cannot improve on perfection.
wrtlpfmpf 11 months ago 2
@HappyDesertSeagull The only proficient way to play those songs would be not to play them at all.
canadiantothebakon 8 months ago
@HappyDesertSeagull Seems like "more proficiently" would remove an essential element of their sound, bringing them into the mediocre. The beauty of The Shaggs was that they landed smack-dab in the middle of avant garde quite naturally. It is utterly impossible to reproduce their sound without pretense and "faking it."
kc7fys 1 month ago
I like so much this band!!
SWEETANGELUX 2 years ago
nice
midoritree 2 years ago
I actually feel disappointed that none of their songs quite rock the off-beat different-ness of "My Pal Foot Foot" which I really love. The intense non-conventionality of the songs is amazing, and as much as it hurts me to listen I keep coming back to it and enjoying it. It's not that they're just making noise, they're very intentionally playing something that isn't what we expect as listeners to hear, and it's wonderful yet awful.
lordyamamoto 2 years ago
Wow! They've really improved!
christoast1 2 years ago
this is bloody great
booooooooooodddooooo 2 years ago
Wow.... They're all on beat and fairly in tune...
Hoglegvid 2 years ago
fat girls rock
caajaa 2 years ago
omg its actually a bit more intime that some of the others... but still wouldnt say its good :S
caseyyjayee 2 years ago
if the shaggs didnt disband when their father died, i think they could have made some cool music if they just continued with it practicing
belalakaperal 2 years ago
no but dont you see? thats the whole point--their best stuff was when they sucked! this song is way too institutionalized. their first record was the way to go
thesnobsupreme 2 years ago
very well said.
herbienbrian 2 years ago
they got it together for the 2nd release
paultinsel 2 years ago
It's great!
MiszczBetonmen 2 years ago
Here we go! Music by The Shaggs I can come closer to enjoying! It mostly just feels like they're finally able to play exactly what they had envisioned earlier but couldn't then perform.
Beck436 2 years ago 2
lol i lol'd.
Junkieman420 2 years ago
Yes, it's true. This is the Shaggs at the peak of their technical skills.
mjmcnult 2 years ago 47
@mjmcnult That is the truth.
pronihilo 6 months ago
@mjmcnult I was surprised that they sounded as good, but then the end of the piece showed me I had the right idea after all and that this is just a fluke
mosheeshel 6 months ago
well their musical ability seemed to have improved. whether that's a good thing or not is another thing...
entheta 2 years ago
This is one of the best things I've heard in the last year?
Screw Tangerine Dream, these Femmes have everything.
meddle71echoes 2 years ago