BMW - MINI OXFORD PLANT SACKING AGENCY WORKERS

[esjayay]

i heard they all came back, is it true?

[adamtys79]

@esjayay most of them

[esjayay]

@adamtys79 do they still have the weekend shift?

[adamtys79]

@esjayay no there is no weekend shift any more.

[SideshowBob44]

They were agency workers BMW are completely within there right to get rid of them whenever they please. I now its not right but its the truth.

[captpineapplee]

STALKER

[RMTunderground]

To those who say 'the unions' pay for the Labour party you are wrong. My union (The RMT) does not give any money whatsoever to labour and hasn't for at least five years. The RMT also has a history and policy of supporting part time/ casual Workers exactly the same as full time Workers (Except that we charge half subs to them)

[RMTunderground]

People need to stop blaming unions per se and need to focus on the real enemy in this and that enemy is mainly the greedy corporation bastards the wanker bankers but mostly successive governments who done away with any form of control of the banks and big business. Fight by all means but fight the enemy not you Brothers and Sisters.

[13171317]

they knew and said nothing... shameful

[huwlemmey]

Brothers and Sisters don't lie to their brother and sisters on behalf of the bosses. It's a simple question mate- which side are you on?

[RedAbz18]

RMT underground, you are certainly right that the only way to effectively defend ourselves during the recession will be through unity with our class against the capitalists. But the role of unions and their leadership is not isolated from this mate.

[RedAbz18]

The leadership in most unions is very corrupt. The heads of these bureaucracies do not defend our interests and often work to divide our class along profession and race. Just look at Derik Simpson and the way he helped to present the wildcat strikes as being for British jobs for British workers, when the slogans of the strikers had nothing whatsoever to do with nationality it was a struggle for conditions.

[RedAbz18]

To be united and defend ourselves we of course need to be organised and therefore need to be unionised. So the most import task is not to stop blaming unions, but is the opposite. We must expose the undemocratic and anti-working class union leadership. We must transform our unions into organisations which will actually defend us, and in doing so bring in the most exploited (migrant, young and unskilled) workers into the unions and work to defend the our class as a whole.

[RedAbz18]

To do this we must blame who needs to be blamed in the unions. And that is primarily the leadership and those who defend it. We should remove people like Simpson and put in the likes of Jerry Hicks.

[p4eugeot]

I think its mostly aimed at woodley and slimt simpson,(done fuck all and said fuck all) since he became joint sec Bob Crow is the only one prepared to have a go, I think what people mean,including myself is why subscibe to a party that treats you with utter contempt? I know the RMT doesn't

[dmcc20012]

People need to start taking to the streets, 120,000 people in Dublin on Saturday... but thats not enough, I'd call for mass riots, then to channel that anger into a new united working class movement all across Europe. Revolution not reform, there exists no Parliamentary road to Socialism and the liberation of the working class.

[p4eugeot]

couldn't agree more  they had a go in dublin yestersay but we seem to put up with anything,so long as there's a game of silly football to watch or eastenders who gives a fuck?

[rebeldog11]

I really feel for these workers, they must be furious. All workers should be. It is no surprise to be fucked over by unions who support the government and don't challenge the this rotten system which is run for the bosses benefit at our expense. We all have to wake up or take this shit forever.

[ssdcc108]

All the temps knew it was a matter of time before we were laid off, but the union knew of the lay off's before christmas, but not all temps know that we have rights too, no one refused a contract, they kept moving the goal posts, keep sending in your work slips that right4staff gave ya, trust me I know what I'm talking about, if you had been at BMW for at least two years you have to send in your work slips, please don't cut off your nose to spite your face ?????

[mbb05jb]

this is down to the terrible employment law (which labour has presided over for the last 11 years). u couldn't getaway with it in germany or france. this it not piss off union members that it is bankrolling the labour goverment?

[pocky20]

am not anti worker i am a worker you clown i just know a bit more than you where did you say you where from.and are you a temp.if so you need to get a perm job thats life not anti worker you num nuts

[pocky20]

yes but they are temp and they new it union wont realy help temps they have to help perm or full timers first thats the way it is sad but true you no when you are brought in as a temp you can go at any time thats what you sign for so you cant show up and cry when they let you go.why work as a temp if you want a full time job or perm .after a year they sud have done sumin to be made perm or just left .thats it in a nut shell.union have to save perm jobs first and thats just right first in

[p4eugeot]

when brown says he's going to give support to people who have lost their jobs, what he means is he's going to harass you to work for £5-oo an hour thats the only support you'll be getting off these right wing twats

[redrock1965]

these workers who have lost there jobs ,,no union ,no company or city bankers gives a toss about these workers ,bloody goverment , does not give a shit about these people who have lost there jobs ,,these people should be payed thousand , for losing there jobs ,instead of those gits in the city ,who get away with everything ,,brown fuck off ,and shut the door ,and let somebody with guts run this country , ,

[seiken77]

Arbeit Macht Frei. BMW respects german traditions.

[elnorte77]

They should have sat in there and then and occupied. It worked at UCS in the 70's and it would get massive support nationwide if they did. Workers in France are kicking off about job losses we should follow that example. If the unions won't back it, do it anyway.

[FreyarS]

The fact that these workers were given one hours notice is pure bullshit. The corporate, and the union both knew about the situation much earlier, and instead of letting these workers know so they can get on with finding another job, they turn around and say "Everything's fine." If they actually said there was a problem, 500+ people wouldn't be wondering how they are going to find a job in less than TEN days. That's nearly impossible, especially with 500+ people all looking at the same time.

[p4eugeot]

I've just heard woodley on radio merseyside trying to defend what he agreed to in halewood,hejust talked a lot of bollocks,He hasn't the balls to standup top brown,Lets see what happens if they try this with the RMT somehow I couldn't see Bob Crow standing for it

[joz119]

nice spelling you illiterate cunt (balls to standup top brown)

[reyter2007]

Generally, Anglo-American unions are nothing less than criminal. Mainland unions are not much better.... The criminals wouldnt have dared such behavior if the Soviet Union were still around!

[calavicciman]

These people have been well and truly fucked over by both BMW and the Union. So I think rather than bullshit comments such as "You should have stayed in School" or inflammitory bollocks about foreign workers you should perhaps excercise a little respect because when you´re lovely middle class merchant bankers job, accountancy firm or new media cooprative goes down perhaps you may want a bit of backing

[hateardoyne]

u think thats mad watch my vids

[sofalover]

Member of Unite union finally realised they have been shafted.

Unite union give millions to the Labour party,, side with the factory bosses and fuck over the members.

Next time someone asks you for a tenner a week union fees tell the leeches to piss off.

They knew before Christmas but didn't tell their members dispicable union rep cunts.

[ryanblunt]

wooo

communism.....

[bnprenaissance]

VOTE BNP and leave your Labour,Globalist supporting Commie loving unions.We've all seen those vile hammer and sickly logo's on their socialist leaflets.Unions do not represent British workers.

[Artognou]

Amen to that, I work there and thanks to the good people who videod this meeting I have found out that I am one of the weekday temps who get the boot next week, at least I now know where I stand.

[dakid2uk]

BNP are are bunch of thick cunts with no GCSEs or brains. Pull ya dick out ya mums arse ya cunt

[RMTunderground]

I've read a huge amount of the replies to this posting and all I can say is that it's sad to see trade Unionists fight over what is effectively a

[RMTunderground]

Business/Banker/Government debacle. The sooner Workers realise that it's the corporate cunts who have caused this the better. Don't blame your union (I accpet that not all Unions are perfect) but in most cases they have your interest at heart. Blame the fat cat bankers and the crony politicians who they bankrolled for the position we find ourselves in.

[DANxCHORIN]

Fuck you, anti-worker scum.

[workingclassbrit]

HitlerFascism.

You seem to be misinformed! The reason for our industries being in the state they are is because of money grabbing top heavy directors keen to cream off the top.

You are obviously well off in your ivory tower. Probably all those gold reserves from Switzerland! Maybe if we had seized these when we ended your world tour in 1945 instead of rebuilding your infrastructure we would be in a better position! You misunderstand loyalty, after all, the Jews claimed they were loyal to you!

[ENDEUARABIA]

No job security - the Unions a power unto themselves - dictators - to the workers who care nothing about but to line their own pockets

[melville09]

like i said that there are people who have been in the motor trade for 9 years selling cars and then got made redundant due to the climet. so if sales people are been made redundant and on the news all it keeps saying is that jobs are going left right and center, i ask this question why did you all not go get a job with a contract. ? i know why because most of you should not be even in the uk now get back home

[wrighty780]

come on people!. these rumours started november last year so you knew it was coming!!!. should of been prepared for it!

[joz119]

they are all illeagle immogrant bastards anyway they all should get jobs in there own country

[p4eugeot]

nice spelling there joz  illeagle? immogrant? who the fuck would employ you? you illiterate cunt

[jonj8]

Your nasty comment reveals your nature, you should look deeper, the reason he is illiterate is because he a product of the British education system, an example of many people being produced theses days. This has been done to him, its not his fault. At least he still has some sense left, they haven't yet taken all his spirit.

[p4eugeot]

isn't calling people illegal bastards nasty?Any way Ihave fuck all to exchange with you

[britishresistance08]

Looks like a room full of many selfish opportunists who helped undermine wages, conditions and opportunity for the locals.

Screw them, they are victims of a global communist system that Labour and the unions blessed and which they reinforced.

Vote BNP

[ralhar35]

Again, respect to Sal,

quotes:

'The union is a corrupt organisation...'

'We should de-man you...'

etc, etc.

The look on their faces was priceless. Very funny. They wont forget that for a while.

[ralhar35]

To jonj8:

I'm a traitor to who? Idiots like you? That suits me. Go back to downloading porn and shut up.

To seamouse88:

Your car's a wreck because of BMW's greed and stupidity.

As for 'if your fired your fired etc...' If you think its as simple as that your another idiot.

Neither of you should bother to answer me because i'm not going to look back here.

[seamouse88]

As a MINI owner, I'd feel sorry for them if they can actually put nuts and bolts together! If you work for agency, If your fired, your fired. Go do something else.

[woobac789]

Bmw are still producing the same numbers of cars they were six months ago, if sales are down by 35% which they claim they are then these cars are being stock piled some where. This is in preperation for if/when the remaining work force strike. Bmw will just flat pack everything and clear out while still selling cars on the cheap. It'll be business as usual to them with no disruption. I'm glad to be out of there.

[p4eugeot]

the quicker people stop reading the sun and supporting football,and look whats happening to them, we'll never move on how can anyone 'earning' £4-00 per hour go and watch some silly cunt kick a ball around for an hour and a half and get £100.000? but it keeps their tiny minds waway from problems such as this

[ralhar35]

I was there and i'm white and british, so all you idiots talking about race and nationality should shut your filthy mouths.

The real issues are that the government has abandoned us and the union fed us to the sharks...

Respect to Sal for speaking up for us.

[p4eugeot]

don't dignify his argument by responding to these uneducated filth

[andyessex007]

The workers are the union!!

I is up to the workers to do what they think is right.. and the union will support them.

[p4eugeot]

why didn't they support the lindsey oil protesters? all they could come up with is the usual 'go back to work' they're nothing but a shower of useless cunts. you see wher slimy simpson will end up

[dantesh88]

Workers need unions more than ever now, but most of our unions are crap and won't fight. These workers were sold out, and the official just tells them to accept the losses due to the economy. No wonder they are angry.

Kick out these useless officials - we need workers rank and file control of our unions.

[DANxTHExRED]

But that's what makes these unions what they are; beset with bureaucracy, corporatism, and sectoralism. They don't allow any sort of rank file militancy, because it threatens their importance; they need you far more than you need them. Even industrial and syndicalist unions are limited as to what they can achieve.

Movements are what workers need.

[melville09]

not one fucking white man was there so you can all go fucking back home and cry about it. sales people for BMW and MINi and Mercedes where all made redundant 3-5 months ago so you have done well to keep your jobs this long.

[p4eugeot]

melvilleshit you are an uneducated prat

[melville09]

thats nice to here but after what has gone on in the world and what is in the news all the time anyone who has got a job with no contract is a prat. dont you think?

[p4eugeot]

They should rip their cards up and send them to slimy simpson, not a word from this great socialist eh?This cunt will end up in the house of shit with all the other coniving fraudulent doddering old twats

[p4eugeot]

MANY a case has been won in the high court where it was deemed if you work for a co. for 12 months, it's seen as you are emplyed by the co you are on hire to check it out on google

[p4eugeot]

What was the gutless workforce doing allowing agency workers to be employed for four years? never mind keep paying millions of pounds woodley and slimy simpson to the most viscious anti working class government for ever,and they couldn't wait to get shit housr brown elected, why couldn't they see him for what he is? a right wing cunt

[meotaku2]

Surely agency workers have more rights if they have ben employed at the same place for a year ?

[Joyriser]

Right behind you! Get your money back from that shite union. The employers , the agencies AND THE UNIONS are taking the piss. That union rep is just lining his own pockets!!

[2shaydee2]

Fuck 'em, they're all foreign. They can gohome now

[tgomorgan]

Globalization has put downward pressure on what western countries will pay for skilled labour, since it can be done cheaper overseas...you never had to compete with people all over the world for jobs, now you have to...This generation (18-40yrs) has been screwed...We may go down in history as the first generation ever to do worse than our parents...(with only one fucking parent bringing home the bacon back then)

[98059907]

At no point in this clip does anyone argue against being laid off. We accept that. What we dont accept is the union signing deals with BMW to remain silent until the last hour. Oh sorry, I forgot....the Union didnt know anything about all this. I retract this comment; how stupid of me. The Union is great. Thousands of pounds taken from the workers and they provide us with a newsletter with complaints.

Im glad our money has been used in the right way.

Curruption comes to mind

[neil9327]

Well it looks like we're going to have to re-open the work-houses

[squiggleyou]

queen victoria will be rolling in her grave at the state of our country.....bad times

[lndac02]

why they didnt deal with it along the same lines as Honda and put these workers on short time amazes me. Hardly a word was mentioned about after Honda had to reduce. BMW have shot themselves in the foot doing it like this, espicially now we have youtube. I notice BMW HR/management pissed off and let the union guys take all the flak. Saying that Union are money for old rope these days, full time union reps are only interested in feathering their own nests and brown nosing management.

[magik251]

arbeit mach frei!! at least once bmw stick wih their words...germany never treat poeple in good way always other nations been for them like a shit ,

[poetaa20]

no nie licz ze dlugo zostaniesz bo ze Swindon przechodzi 150 osob no to tyle gdzies musisz odliczyc z dziennych i nocnych zmian!!! Ja pracowalem na weekend shift 2 i pol roku i mimo to ze wiedzialem ze to sie szykuje to nie spodziewalem sie ze nas tak potraktuja!!! Poeta

[Vaco79]

Normalnie przesada ja w poniedzialek 23 lutego wracam do pracy i chyba odrazu zajme sie tungiem samochodow bo dlugo i ja tez tam miejsca nie zagrzeje pozdrawiam

[Artognou]

Don't forget to DIGG this comment, I submitted it, the more DIGGs the more people can read about this and see the video too!

Boycott BMW!!

[Kumarajiva]

Fuck off you cunt

[captpineapplee]

Says a fuckin foreigner

[sopzey]

Good effort, you fucking pleb.

[dunkiedoo]

this is disgusting, i can understand that BMW are under pressure but some level of decency and dignity should have remained. I will never consider working for BMW either as a contractor or Perm now or in the future and will never by a BMW either despite being fairly impressed when in a colleges last week. If i owned a BMW i would get rid i am that disgusted. who ever called the shots here needs to go next and fast. One hours notice indeed???? I'm lost for words.

[meotaku2]

BMW in Gemany will have had nothing to do with this. BMW are a great company.

It must be local British managers to be this incompetent.

[dunkiedoo]

its no excuse, if a brittish company sets up sweat shop in China and treats its chinese staff poorley it's wrong and we are rightly outraged. BMW are responsible for this and need to act to resolve it. I remain sickened by the BMW. the fact they did this here because our loose emploment laws let them get away with it makes it even worse.

[mrfoxywhiskers]

I can't beleive that is Oxford. 'City of the dreaming spires'??????

[LowestoftBoy64]

why were these guys still temps after 4 years? Union should've negotiated better terms during the good times. Govt should use this case to reform the UK's employment laws to be on a par with other western european countries. ie. Germany.

[Artognou]

You think that's bad? I've been there nearly 5 years and there are people who have been there longer than me still on the agency, it sucks big time.

I will say though, I feel sorry for the agency office workers too, they have had to do a lot of sacking themselves and at the end of it they have to go, so they deserve major respect and sympathy.

[andyessex007]

Aniother fine example of capitalism at it's best!

Sack workers, blame the union and watch the workers fight amongst themselves and with the union, while the fat cat bosses sit back and enjoy the moment and plan the next cost cutting exersice to fill their already bloated wallets. And all at the expense of hard working dedicated workers... they already saved a fortune by exploiting agency workers!!!

[stockster212121]

This stinks you can only hope that after the coverage they will think twice about doing it !!

[rickymrm]

i heard that over 400 cars damaged and faulty built last night or more that een built in friday and saturday maybe 1200 cars??so customers life in danger bmw has to stop selling them before they clear all this shit or stop cuting jobs

[VodkaTonic1976]

At least MINI have got the right idea. Get rid of foreign agancy staff first

[skodas]

minis made from 2001 to 2007 your Power steering could fail go to your dealer its been on BBC WATCHDOG tonight

[RRODvideo]

Most of them are not British anyway, so who gives a fuck?

I was laid off loads of times as an Agency worker. That's the way it goes.

[jonj8]

Yes there are a lot of foreign voices, at least they can pack up and go home, (and they should) they have somewhere to go, what do the British do? we can't just go home with they nice little packet of saved up money.

[mrfoxywhiskers]

So you think they will all go home because their temp work has finished. Wishful thinking! Before the EU they would have needed WORK permits, so at times like these foreign workers would have to return to their home countries. If they no longer had work. Not now, there will be hundreds of thousands here with no job. Never has the UK had a serious recession before with large numbers of foreigners living here.....Unprecedented.

[bakunin888]

Would you give more of a fuck if they were british? You sound like you're only concerned about yourself.

[Kumarajiva]

I give a fuck you filthy scab cunt. If class traitors like you fucked off out of it with your dickhead nationalist divide-and-rule bollocks we might still have a union movement.

[RRODvideo]

What are you fucking on Puto.

The Union took the money and did fuck all to help these people. The fact is Agency workers have no rights. The union was pointless. Agency employment is just a way to get cheap foreign work. The Agency are to blame they should have explained there rights I.E they have none. Look for something else or fuck off .

[jonj8]

The Unions are in bed with the government who are in bed with big business, a nice threesome .Its people like you who have allowed this to happen, not your nationalist enemies, your the traitor, how come you've tolerated these bad employment practices for so long this all the foreign workers keeping wages down to subsistence pay, now you have the audacity to blame someone else

[jonj8]

They all seem surprised . I've had to work for Agencies for years, I've never had any notice just told at the end of work on Friday or even in the week at the end of day I was no longer required, it happens all the time to hundreds of agency people every day. Only this time they all in the one place. This is why they use agencies. Don't expect any notice if you work for them. I hate employment agencies with a vengeance for many reasons.

[Booxy71]

It's not the union's fault! It's the UK Government's fault and the slack employment laws in this country that agency workers don't get the same rights as workers with contracts. The employment law in the UK needs to change! This would have never happened in Germany because the employment laws there are different.

[dorkmatter]

that place shud be demolished i was going to by a new mini this weekend its orderd and every thing at the BMW dealership. Tomorow i am canceling my order coz if worked there and woz sacked like that there would be more than a few problems with the quality of my work. i hope all those workers went back in a keyed every car. will buy a suzuki swift now probably more reliable. you stick it to em lads no one deserves to be sacked like that

[tass123456789]

It is sad to see but this is the credit crunch which affects everyone but affects the working class the most as any sign of trouble, the top dogs push it down to the hard workers who suffer. Fuck them all.... BMW equals Black Mans Willy which is what the top dogs deserve up the ass

[sorrsha]

fucking cunts!!

[lestube001]

brits would not act so this.i wish we were bit more gobby.fair play guys.good luck for the future

[koffcia]

They don't know what they're doing. People will burn that place down. C U there on Monday ;)

[esjayay]

LONG LIVE HONDA!!!!

[p4eugeot]

sold out again by the fuckin gutless shop stewards "I'd be sacked if I told you anything" what a gutless cunt, he won't be sacked but he'll let you be sacked shower of cunts you should ALL walk out. agency workers for four years! whayt a fuckin joke, whast happened to the 12 week rule after which your'e entitled to the same conditions?

[TOMWALKERCWU]

Remember that all the Union Reps who had any back bone and a history of standing up for their members at Cowley were sacked by the Company in the mid 1980s, people like Bob Cullen who is now a Union Rep in the Post Office In Oxford, He and many others were sacked for leading strikes and fighting for his members in Cowley, the only union reps you have left there now are the ones who are afraid to do anything or do not care as long as they are safe, it is a very sad day for working people.

[vdmerwe]

Dismantle the union. Fast.

[seiken77]

If I still worked ther I'd make every car EXTRA GOOD if you know what i mean. It's the beginning... R they cutting management jobs as well? Burn this shitplace down. FT BMW!

[seiken77]

Jesli bym pracowal jeszcze dla tej smierdzacej firmy to kazde auto byloby odpowiednio podrasowane! Nie oszukujmy sie.. to dopiero poczatek choc dowiecie sie dopiero na koniec zmiany zebyscie zapierniczali ladnie i nie mieli potem wiele czasu na odwet...

[seiken77]

BMW to scierwo. tak wlasnie odplacaja ludzom za pot i krew przelana na linii. Nic ich nie obchodzi poza wlasnymi tylkami. To jak tych ludzi potraktowano jest odrazajace. Ale na pewno zrobia film proocyjny pokazujacy jak szczesliwi pracownicy kochaja mini.... H im w D! a to dopiero poczatek...

[LittleCeeSO17]

Stop the BMW Cowley Job Cuts

Oxford Socialist Party Meeting Tonight Mon 16th Feb 7.30pm - The Old Bookbinders, Canal St, Jericho *All welcome If you want to get in touch either e-mail or call Jared 07796 698747

[Artognou]

I will probably face the same shit next week.

What a fucking nightmare.

[Beltov1895]

It seems obvious that the factory was closed for a week so that the day shift couldn't walk out in solidarity. The way you guys have been treated is disgusting, although I wouldn't expect anything else from the union. The struggle of the oil refinery workers last month is a good example - all out, spread the struggles and mass assemblies.

[sarimuk]

Jebane zwiazki huja zrobily jak zwykle .Ukrywaly ten fakt przed wszytkimi bo sie baly ze ich zwolnia.Placimy miesiecznie im 10 funtow i co z tego mamy? Nic.60 minut przed koncem zmiany meeting to smieszne.Ludzie maja kredyty rodziny i co teraz.Ciekawe co zrobia z ludzmi pracujacym na rotacyjnej zmianie ile osob zwolnia.Pozdrawiam Wszytkich Polakow pracujacych w Bmw .Jakby co to bedzie trzeba troche samochodzikow potuningowac:):)

[esjayay]

i will sell my BMW car now coz wenever i look at it i think of them cowards!

[esjayay]

i know many names of the fucking assholes that work there, most r all fucking managers and brown nosers with contracts. fucking pussies!...i curse them bitches, they will feel the same pain.!

[esjayay]

i reigned last year......i still feel sad bout agency people thas not fair, totaly rong. i hope they all scratched each car before leaving!

[esjayay]

i resigned last year coz the fuckers didnt like me.

[Carloswompedro]

Well what a discrase.

Weve been there busting a gut this weekend and in the past, today we get 60 mins notice that this will be it - game over.

You get longer notice than that if your on death row, what does that tell you about BMW and the Union? well what bloody union.

BMW workers we must stick together and watch each others backs.

To remaining staff- We will not loose this fight if we stand up for our rights

[adamtys79]

assholes

[tomybartel]

bustards!! kick them asses!