Toncontin Landing, Tegucigalpa, HN 6-Dec-06

[upiluften]

Um.. you didn't touch down late. If you look at aerial pictures of the runway at Toncontin, you'll see that there are arrows on about 1/3 of the runway. That's for takeoff only.

And what's up with the quotes around International? You do realise that any airport that has the facilities to accept international flights is considered to be an Int'l airport? Size has nothing to do with it.

[chrisklein21]

is this the American 757 flight?

[guywolff]

This was real.. We had a little air hold us off the run way at just the wrong moment .. It's a very short runway for that . If you play it again look at the stripes on the runway and the big white rectangle . Thats where the wheels are meant to touch down and then notice how much more time before we got traction .. My first flight in here I noticed the Stewardess crossing herself as we followed the maintain down to the runway .. Mr business partner was doing this vedio with his cell phone .

[ummangsb]

Spooked meout....hwd u ever stop in tym.....Heay brakeS!!!!

[fraekkchen]

looks like fsx with low fps...lol..xD

[jorgemartinez18]

Terrible video quality, but nice view.

[thamesking]

Nice bit of raw footage - the slow frame rate makes it feel like one of those jumpy news reports from somewhere really dangerous. Maybe Toncontin is one of those places!

[pitomlot]

its like watching a powerpoint  presentstion ._.

[hejsanhejsan2]

I guess that you have the latest technology in camera way =)

[yankeesfan135]

jesus, thats just sad!

[MrDanieldb]

@yankeesfan135 That's what she said........

[Larsnero14]

poor frame per seconds, can't be more that 2 per sec... very poor camera quality. but you filmed it pretty good with what you had. you could'nt have done it better with the peace of crap camera you got there

[stoli4me]

must be a cell phone taking these images

[slaikjer1]

yeah, 2 frames per sec?? :O Pretty poor, I think!! :/

[747AnanasBoeing747]

pussy camera

[clubpenguintaca]

u exagerate in the gald we touch

[dziczku]

To all of you asking stupid questions - look up toncontin international or watch:

watch?v=v_z5HtME9n8

[windh]

4 fps?

[azkodagama]

lol prolly

[AdamCz1993]

actually it's 2 or 2,5 FPS i guess :P

[xhappyxlifex]

@AdamCz1993 yea rofl i was counting it and it was about 2.5 fps ur right Adam xD

[Nick9564]

What is so important about this landing

[jof121]

What kind of camera do you use? Jeezez

[Poisonseed]

It's not a camera, it's a series of pictures he glued together. You can actually count them.

[gtamythfnder]

well then why can we hear the airplane engine and hear the people talkin in the airplane?

[guywolff]

Peter was using the camera on his phone .

[gtamythfnder]

unless u were beein sarcastic

[Poisonseed]

I was. :)

[gtamythfnder]

oh srry :)

[sa8569]

the approach into toncontin is very similar to that of kai tak very scary landing i would have been quite nervous to look out the window

[musico81986]

Although the it landed about 1600ft from the threshhold, the 757 is capable of braking in less than 3600ft. Considering the airplane is pretty low in weight, although it isn't touching the ground, the plane is already loosing airspeed because the engines are on idle as it flares. The 757 specification manual requires about 4500ft for landing at Toncontin, the manual DOES include an extra buffer for error. I wouldn't be surprized if the pilots reported 'hot brakes' upon reaching the terminal!

[panictactics]

shut up now please

[rivas521]

hey...we have to accept that american airports are good... but in latin america are good airports too, like costa rica airport and comalapa airport. Toncontin isnt the best airport, but Honduras has a lot of airport that are good, specially Palmerola, that has been used by the fucker americans. American people of shit, better see your economics problems. All the americans are a shit, Honduras is a beautiful place with trees and Usa only has factories of shit

[fsxaddictx]

r u jelous that u dont live in the worlds most powerful country... dude the world is falling apart were all in financial drouble

[ariesenergie]

with the credit crunch included?

[fsxaddictx]

that isint affecting some of us

like the rich :-)

[crunkteezy]

well, someone hasn't had their daily dosage of dick today.  you call us the factory country, check out china. I will agree with you that Honduras is beautiful.

[masterhidsert1043]

Let me guess your American too,

[ariesenergie]

este no sabe ni lo que dice en San Diego esta el aeropuerto tocando la ciudad, y en colorado hace muchos años habia un aeropuerto que lo terminaron cerrarndo de tantos accidentes que hubieron, la lista es numerosa para que ahora vengais vosotros los gringos y resto del planeta y digais nada mas que estupideces, y sobretodo para los latinos que solo echais mierda en Honduras. y nada bueno.

Cook1993 (hace 1 mes)

seriously??? Wow. It looks like a shit hole to me...No offence

[ariesenergie]

Seriously do you really think that?, maybe i´ts because you have never been in my country before. but anyway i don´t really care what you say about Honduras. maybe you can visit this country and land over there.

[abdielhiram]

I have read that the runway at toncontin is way too short.. Also, the approach is a little bit tricky. Have had problems in the past trying to land there using the simulator. you have to be so precise.

[sasame888]

ohhh,, it was too fast:)

[8832684]

fucking gringo motherfucker respect lationamerica you have envius because you dont have the nature that we have because you always are making factories of shit so aprende a acer buenos comentarios imbecil

[Jwhirl2006]

hey fuck you buddy. check out some American airports

[guywolff]

It was a little extra uplift of wind or something at the last moment that made this day so interesting a landing . We really were past the tower when the wheels finally caught the tar.I am the guy sitting next to peterpots in this clip,The first time we went together to Honduras I noticed the Stewardess crossing herself on approach.Peter turned to me and said something like,"This landing can be a little tricky".So Peter how about a clip of a family of 5 on one motorcycle in Saigon.

[ariesenergie]

sea como sea honduras se ve muy bonito, a pesar de todos lo problemas que ha tenido que enfrentar. con todo lo que tiene.

[taniapoleth]

its already open you dumbass bitch, you know im from Honduras and the airport, is it true, its a little scarry to land there, but anyways it's a cool airport, but the incoming one the Palmerola its gonna be even cooler!!!!!!!! so dont stop comming to honduras ok?

[cherlover124]

it's good they reopened toncontin because the've worked so hard on making it look the way it looks so modern. well but once palmerola is finished i would prefer that airport to be the international airport it will anyways. when palmerola is done their gonna call it intercontinental and its going to be the biggest airport in central america and the most modern one so what do we have to loose nothing. honduras is going to have a better face when palmerola becomes the new intercontinental airport

[chepelatino]

lol is true the sefety card

[HanzPrague]

is it 757 ? Or 737 ?

[locowil]

Hanz. If you freeze the image at frame 3:06 you'll see the safety card says 757.

[tomtom5418]

you can also tell by the longer wing

[ipanemablues]

El aeropuerto de Toncontin esta considerado uno de los mas peligrosos del mundo. Por un lado, la ruta del aterrizaje final esta rodeado de una area montaniosa y la aproximacion es curva. La pista no tiene suficiente espacio para rodaje en caso de una emergencia. Un saludo a las autoridades responsables porque al fin lo cerraron!

[rmcdedms]

ya esta abierto asi q ponete triste otra vez

[alexmejia26]

yo considero que la medida de cerrar TONCONTIN es un acto de TRAICION A LA PATRIA y de odio contra el pueblo hondureño. Ojala Dios se apiade de las miles de familias que quedaran sin trabajo y sustento por los caprichos de una persona inescrupulosa y mal asesorada. Dios Bendiga a Honduras y a los Buenos Hondureños.

[EddG305]

el que diceño el maldito aeropuerto esta fumando marijuana vencida

[loba2007]

Vaya que monton de Diske Gringos comentando lol!!

[pedrinhopavon]

Toncontin was Closes last Friday, due to a plane accident, flight are now in Palmerola military base...

[michaelballack]

yea that one should be fun! is a bit smaller than the one in San Pedro but is going to be fun landing there!

[osorious]

You are not that "far" (I guess you mean high). Touchdown zone at Tocontin is not at the begining of the runway. It has a displaced threshold.

[congaleader2000]

no more Toncontin landings...these videos will become collectors items, just like Kai Tak, officially closed by executive decision to aircraft bigger than 40 passengers, sad but long overdue, I guess it took a tragedy like TACA's to make it happen, "tombstone technology" at it's best!

[PaperClip459]

whoever designed the airport was definitely smoking some whacky weed

[561REPRESENT]

Note to self: Don't fly in to Hondouras.

[mndswpr]

An Airbus crashed here at Tegucigalpa,killing four ,(Friday May 30th),it overshot the runway.

[GUANACO0377]

7 People died now the Captain inclusive. CLOSE THE TONCONTIN INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ....PLEASE!

[michaelballack]

7? it was only 5 you douche!

[michaelballack]

dont fly to Toncontin! you wont anyways is close! hahahaa

[danmuthafucka]

its a 757 dumbass look at the card in the seatback pocket.

[bsartist]

or the wing itself

[tiko0707]

why does it have to make the turn?

[rednalgne]

For the same reason a car has to turn to get into a parking space.

[tiko0707]

no i mean the spiral decent :S there must be some mountains or somehting cus other wise it wouldent make the very short final

[ajuscoxitle]

It's because the airport is at the bottom of a narrow valley, totally surrounded by very steep mountains and by the city itself. This video doesn't show (check others, they are great) but on the opposite windows, you can only see a mountain passing freakingly close, and then immediately before touching there are houses on the hills, so close, that you think you gonna hit them. Scary but it's the only place available, the rest are mountains.

[GJv0179]

It is needed special requirements to land on this airport? Such as local training with an istructor, circling to land, touch and go?

Thanks in advance... cheers from Italy

[GoJakob]

yes, u need an instruction for it.

[VivaElChorizo]

Just follow the charts and ATC instructions that will take you pretty safe to landing, only two accidents reported in 25 years both landed at half of the runway and overshooting TACA 390 and USAF C-130 by the way any landing after the second taxiway is mandatory go-around procedure due a higher risk of overshooting TACA A320's always goes high landing due the approaching speed either over or after second taxiway

[firstclasspassenger]

Are the takeoffs steeper too, and EVEN SCARIER!?!?

[Bradford1966]

Takeoffs are optional, landings are mandatory. LOL

[captainjones92]

wow how long is the runway at that airport?

and nice vid...why was the plane floating for so long?

[Lakerplayer8]

because of the ground effect. excess speed in the flare causes the airplane to float when its within one wingspan above the surface. he could float all the way down the runway if he wanted to...

[lothianbuses1982]

Sorry was a British Airways 777 and went too short!!!

[lothianbuses1982]

Yes they interfere.That s way a 747 last month landing at Heatrow went long!

[Bigrtftw]

It failed to respond to throttle input. I highly doubt it had something to do with someone filming or what ever on board. The same thing happend with an AA 777 last week. It's most likely a problem with the engines. Both the BA 777 and AA 777 has the same type (RR Trents)

[lothianbuses1982]

So why should be forbidden to use electronic equippemement?

[Bigrtftw]

For the same reason you're not supposed to use cellphones at petrol/gas stations. A few small incidents that are very unlikely to happen again was enough to put rules in place.

There's no rules for Airplane spotters dotted around the fences of airports with radios and cameras etc. In my opinion they're just as bad.

[lothianbuses1982]

I completely agree with you!

[rendrageed]

this airplane is a 737.. any lack of throttle response is likely the result of the pilot as the throttles are manual controlled and linked by cable, not computer.

[robpaints]

aren't you supposed to turn off all electronics after take off and before landing, for they may interfere with the plane's communication control?

[rhs2000vtec]

yes but they dont interfere. :-) im flying to Denver tomorrow and I plan on taking a video of the landing.

[robpaints]

make sure you post it, for all of us to see.

[forgotaboutbre]

denver's airport is so beautiful!

[inukjuak89]

To david181993, who thinks the 757 was above the runway

for only 2 or 3 seconds:

(Your homepage profile says you are 14 years old,

so please don't interpret this as me being mean.)

The runway starts at 2:27

and the auto-spoilers only come up at 2:37.

Looking at it another way,

the plane touches down right beside the 2nd off-ramp

(the airport has 5).

In effect, the plane landed 40% down the runway.

[tomberry378]

You also have to realise this is quite a difficult approach, theres no ILS so the pilot is having to control height, a sharp bank arc heading and throttle all at the same time. Once weak turn and it could throw him completely off course.

[kinsley2108]

thats why you need a couple thousand hours lol

[enzymetab]

Mooreka, no 747 has ever landed in Tegus. you mean a Boeing Jumbo 747. Don´t lie, please. Are you kiddin....or what?

[64Aggressor]

for an airport as small as this they did float a little long than they probably should have but other than that this was a pretty good landing

[yamahakan]

That was a ordinary landing what i can see,but i´m not a pilot!Any pilots here please can you coment this landing?

[mctenner11]

What do you mean by flaps were up too late? I guess you mean spoilers, and these were not up too late, it would make quite a hard landing deploying them when still in the air, and autospoilers a used nowadays most of the times anyway so the deply as soon as possible automatically when gears have touched down, and what a yerk are you thinking to know how to do a pliots job?? Only because you have flown some times in your life?? I don´t think so......

[david181993]

"Note how far we are down the runway before touchdown"

I think your wrong there, you touched down after being above the runway for no more than 2 or 3 seconds, which isn;t bad at all.

[inukjuak89]

(Your homepage profile says you are 14 years old,

so please don't interpret this as me being mean.)

The runway started at 2:27

and the auto-spoilers only came up at 2:37.

Looking at it another way,

the plane touched down right beside the 2nd off-ramp

(the airport has 5).

In effect, the plane landed 40% down the runway.

[iceflyevents]

The captain used full brakes, theres no harm in that, he just flared too much and glided a little further before touchdown.

[pedrinhopavon]

one of the lasts test for nowdays pilots is to land in our Toncontin airport =P if u land here!! you'll obiosly land anywhere

[stayfly90]

wow, i've even seen worse landings in london heathrow

[madisonelectronic]

Diapers for everyone!

[jakezilla3]

What runway is that?

[peterpots1]

It is Toncontin International Airport in Tegucigalpa, Honduras. It is one of the shortest international airport runways in the world at about 6100 ft. The approach is on a U turn because of the mountains, so it is a difficult one, and if you're on the left side of the plane, you feel like the wing is going to scrape the mountain!

[jobu88]

Good thing the flight crew announced "Please turn off all personal electronic devices for landing."

[SlipknotDJ]

damn it looks dangerous... wow good pilot he was going on glide slope perfectly even when having the 757 turning left

[QwertzProductions]

It was a fast landing, but that's normal, because you need speed for such a turn on final if you don't want to stall. At 3300ft elevation you have to fly faster anyway besauce the air is thinner.

And hey:

The runway is the shortest of all intl airports. The biggest plane aloud there is a B757.

[rmcdedms]

is not shortes intl airport

[QwertzProductions]

Yeah, found out too. Sry but that.

[markrua4]

thatwas a very very fast landing, the plane looks like it isnt in such good shape either

[louie77]

yeah AA gives all the central american, and haitian flights all the Bad, crappy planes.

[jbettger]

What are you talking about?? Bad, Crappy planes??? This video is in a Boeing 757, and that is a sweet, powerful airplane!!! And there was nothing wrong with this landing!!

[murray1069]

I totally agree with you. louie77 is disillusioned. The 757 has ALWAYS been a solid A/C with a great history. Fast, powerful and a great ride.

[Kcrwflyer]

Funny you would say that about one of the most impressive commercial airliners ever built.

[propilot1012]

You landed a bit fast maybe thats why

[MikhailSharpowicz]

Nice landing - only a few feet past the money.

Very smooth - and you can thank your crew for that.

[Jerrycobra]

nvm, more like 4000ft

[Jerrycobra]

damn, looks like u gut=ys had just 3500ft to stop, amazing!, he hanged it for a while

[aznxdope]

SCARY!

[gokumalo]

toncontin has one of the shortest runways in the world...it isn't the shortest tho!..gotta love the 757 capabilities!!

[iceman977th]

Jeez...was this really a 757? (Refering to uploader) <_<

[peterpots1]

YES! American Airlines. Compared to other videos here, it looks like we touched down really far down the runway. Glad we had good brakes. Some planes have not had such good luck. In 1997, a C-130 from the Wisconsin National Guard ran off the end fo the runway, killing 3 people on board. Luckily, no one on the ground was killed.

[rmcdedms]

the plane was to big to land in here..

[rmcdedms]

the best place to land in the world...I LOVE HONDURAS I LOVE TONCONTIN

[sexyemeni]

haha i'd like to see someone land a 747 on this one.

[enzymetab]

Sorry but is not possible to land a 747 or other big aircraft because of the approach, there are mountains around the airport and Tegucigalpa is right in a hole. The runway is very short, 6100 feet.

[mooreka27]

Continental Airlines lands a 747 at Toncontin Internation everyday...I was on it a few weeks ago. It's actually a pretty amazing landing!

[SevenFiveSevenCrazy]

Continental doesn't have any 747s...you mean a 737 or 757?

[mooreka27]

I meant a 737....I apologize!!!

[bredbrain]

wow large city yo!!!

[Krizzzzz1992]

oh gosh I sat like 2 or 3 rows in front of you!

[peterpots1]

For real? Same day on AA?

[Krizzzzz1992]

yeah! must be

[lajgaard]

Continental airlines right

[toapanta777]

look all the first second of the video says 757 so it's American Airlines

[enzymetab]

No man this is AA 757

[Cramsfordd]

This approach is called the AURORA 1 STAR, and it actually has a holding pattern built into the approach for the pilots to prepare themselves for the landing!

[peterpots1]

Do you know how much the landing/approach has changed since they took away part of the hill, and started to build houses on it? When I first flew in there in 1997, it seemed scarier from how close the wing tip looked to the ground on the big left turn. Of course, stopping in time on the short runway was next!

[Cramsfordd]

I honestly don't know, but since the majority of the landing is flown visually, I assume that the landing has changed over time only as much as the pilots saw fit to amend their approach as necessary to the changing terrain below them. I also doubt that the majority of the approach has changed, as a holding pattern is great for preparing for landing, and the approach can' be flown in poor weather anyways, so my best guess is that it has remained stagnant.

[dodzcrazybug]

SALUDOS DESDE MÉXICO

[prost8]

wow, late landing all right. If you check out google earth, that plane landed half way down the runway, way long.

[CaptMoo]

brake Brake BRake BRAAAKKEEESSS.... oh ok we are safe. jajaja LOVE THAT AIRPORT!

[peterpots1]

Do you fly, and have you landed there?  I've always heard that AA and others have only certain pilots who have qualifications to land there. True?

[CaptMoo]

Im training to be a Pilot in Panama, but i born in Honduras.

Supposly Yes. AA pilots use to come before with the plane empty to practice that approach, then they came with passengers, so its not every AA pilot goes there. 757 is the biggest plane that can land there.

[peterpots1]

Also, it seems like the approach has "softened" over the years as they took away part of the mountain just before the runway. Still, you feel like the wingtip is about to scrape the ground making that turn to com in for the approach! I've been making the trip there about twice a year since '98, and its always a little thrilling!

[dabeanmami]

WOW man. me acuerdo de ese aeropuerto. Yo fui para alla por primera vez alrredador de los 6 años atras (cuando todavia American usaba los 727) y me recuerdo todos los gritos de los pasangeros y yo gozandome. Hay me encanta mi pais!

[miculoesnegro]

toncontin es loco

[rmcdedms]

por eso es pijudo...amo a tegus amo toncontin best place in to land in the world

[Christopherwoo]

Jesus Christ, that runway is short enough as it is, dosn't need someone to float the plane down the runway. Bet that plane got a proper check out in the wheels and brakes department after that landing, very very very hard braking. stopped right at the end of the runway, still going fast at the opposite touchdown marker

[toapanta777]

once I was returning to Teguz they canceled our flight because one of the brakes in one tire was all wasted and they didn't had an extra one in Miami, so it is true the captain has to make a full inspection of the external and internal part of the aircraft.

P.S:Thank God that was a good pilot if not I would be in heaven.jajajajaja

[sitzsack2]

Damn, you did it with the AA757! Biiieeen!! Soy celeso

[victoraguila]

una pregunta, que no se supone que es peligroso encender equipo electronico durante el viaje si la tripulacion no lo permite? entra dentro de esto las camaras de video? saludos!

[polako2]

no APARATOS PEKENOS NO ASEN NADA LO QUE NO TE DEJAN USAR ES LOS CELULARES PARA NADA PORKE TALVES PUEDE INTERRUPIR LA COMUNICACION A LAS APROCIMACIONES CON ILS pero las camaras te dejan usarlas!!!!!!!!!!!

[krlos116]

si se puede llevar camaras a bordo pero con el consentimiento de las asafatas! llamé para averiguar en AA pq el 13 de julio me voy de viaje :D

[chikpd]

uuuuuh pero io no c xq dicen q pega super fuerte el avion y cuando aterrice io la vez pasada nada q ver!!! yo senti q fue igual a todos los demas aeropuertos!! pero eso si q senti q nos llevabamos las casitas ya!!! :P

[bubbers44]

Since they touched down past the tower when the spoilers deployed we know that a 757 can land in less than 3,000 feet. Bet the FO was puckering a bit.

[CaptMoo]

Best place to land in the world. Dangerous and Fun and the same time!

[2003jomime]

Mis respetos alos pilotos ke caen en el toncontin!! porke no cualkier piloto atteriza en esa pista!!!

[toapanta777]

gracias cvinaspilot

eres piloto? porque en ese caso te haria un monton de preguntas sobre el aterrizaje en toncontin

[cvinaspilot]

Todo depende , alguinas veces si , algunas no,

Si el piloto cuenta con las Cartas aereas necesarias o si no, Hay varios tipos de Aproximacion como la visual que es cuando las condiciones son buenas y el piloto hace la Aproximacion por vista, hay otras Como VOR DME, esta es siguiendo una serie de Puntos en un radar, otras por vectores que le dan instruciones sobre el rumbo y la direccion, espero que esto te ayude,

Saludos

[bhuezo]

la primera que fui yo me iba cagando porque ya me parecia que pegabamos pero me da nostalgia ver estos videos

[toapanta777]

q marica son pijudisimos

[toapanta777]

Los pilotos aterrizan por si solos? O la torre les va diciendo cuando girar, porq se ve bien macaneado aterrizar por si solos

[cvinaspilot]

Todo depende , alguinas veces si , algunas no,

Si el piloto cuenta con las Cartas aereas necesarias o si no, Hay varios tipos de Aproximacion como la visual que es cuando las condiciones son buenas y el piloto hace la Aproximacion por vista, hay otras Como VOR DME, esta es siguiendo una serie de Puntos en un radar, otras por vectores que le dan instruciones sobre el rumbo y la direccion, espero que esto te ayude,

Saludos

[Walt78]

It´s amazing how AA´s 757s operate in such a small runway.

[xxx757]

This is the my favorite part of landing in Tegucigalpa!