You know, I can't help but feel that Tallgeese III is the most powerful of all the Gundams, think about it, its like a perfect cross between Epyon and Wing Zero. Its got a gun more powerful than twin buster rifle, its got the heat rod and its got the speed and agility of both, also, considering Zech's personality, he probably has Epyon's version of the Zero system on-board. Combine that with a Gundam Pilot's skill (including Zechs and Treize) and you've got one lean-mean-fighting-machine. Yeah
Tallgeese III is powerful as hell, easily on par with Zero if not outshining it. but it isn't a gundam, it's just a mobile suit. despite any series fluff or what the suit is made of, what makes a gunda a gundam is its design. if the suit shares any remote simularities with the RX-78 (Gundam), then it is a gundam...
on a side note the RX-78 and the OZ-01 Leo are both made from Luna Titanium...so the origional series best mobile suit is equal to a Leo...yay nerdyness
Trieze became my favorite when i started to really understand the plot and subplots, trieze with the young kid and the mother on the dock, was a representation of him letting zech's go his own direction with the result he saw in the beauty of life was that zech's would grow to be a true peacecraft, and both played their roles they knew they had to play to bring peace, through the beauty of life, war, and death, especially trieze who saught meaning from life and death, nice vid
@AidanCecile I got it except I don't really have a main character, oh wait! I pilot Char on Zaku II custom. I refuse to pilot my kira on my rank 4 mega shot Strike Freedom... so cheap...
@lesyoko324 peace wasn't his goal until lady un was shot by tuberoff. Otherwise he would have wanted a world with an emphasis on battles and humans fighting them
@lesyoko324 Treize said from the beginning of the series that he loved war.. He couldn't even imagine living in a world without war. He knew he had a legion of soldiers who were willing to sacrifice everything for his sake and he wanted to become the World Sovereign. He even went so far as to build the Epyon Gundam to give to Zechs to destroy the Romafeller Foundation. After Zechs betrayed him he placed that trust into Hiro.
if treize really wanted peace he wouldn't plan to kill the alliance leaders when they were plannibng for peace for the oither colonies but well he is a good ilot nice vedio
i disagree with the music choice but all things considered this is a top notch AMV. the incorporation of actual dialogue from the anime with the music playing in the background is an extremely impressive technique.
I thank you sir i myself would like to make a tribute to the best gundam character i mean he used the equivalent of wing gundam and took on And pretty much beat a 7 times more powerful suit he was to cool
@5000562 im pretty sure he choose to die cause it was all part of his plan for peace. if he was still alive then there would be more reason for conflict around the earth sphear, sence he was the leader of Oz and held the majority of military power. his death was the death of Oz also
It was apart of Treize and Zechs' ultimate plan for World Peace. They both polarized all of humanity into two fighting forces, with Zechs drawing the worlds hatred toward Libra and Treize leading the interest of humanity. Their plan was pretty much to have a war so devastating that humanity would have no desire to fight. Or at least that was the way I took to understanding things.
@5000562 treize was the cooler character to me, he was the most influencial mobile suit pilot in the series, if it wasnt for treize, the show would have finished around episode 13. personally,n i dont see it as a suicide attempt, i think it was more wufei getting a lucky hit.
@dregoth22 After going back and watching this episode again, I think he was trying to sacrifice himself to avoid any more soldiers from being killed. He originally wanted to duel Zechs and avoid the conflict entirely, but Zechs declined. He was forced to use his men against the dolls. During the fight with Wufei, he asked Lady Unn how many of his men were killed and he started to grieve. Right after that, he sacrificed himself knowing they'd withdraw if he was killed, least that's how i see it.
@bobbyewing311 i still don't see it as a suicide/sacrifice, i see it more as that treize could not see a future with his pacified world was about to emerge, and that as a soldier, he has no part in that future. what i'm trying to say is that his mind was taken out of the fight because he was griving after une's casualty report, because he threw wufei psychologically by telling him the number of deaths in the conflict, he leveled he field, ensuringthe fight was fair, as treize was above all fair
@bobbyewing311 also shoud mention in addition, that treize considered wufei an equal, and probably considered a defeat to wufei honourable, after wufei struck him, pleased with wufei's development
I think Treize should have beat Wufei easily he just purged the dober gun to make it a fair fight even up close he still would have got him but you know how it is nothing is supposed to beat the gundams. if it were me i would have rewritten it so Tallgeese 2 beat the Altron but Wufei still lived he just retreated or something and Treize fought more with Tallgeese 2. another thing why don't they put Tallgeese1an2 in any games nowadays they should put them both in the next D.W. Gundam
This AMV is pretty damn epic. I love it!! Fantastic work, and great timing. I love the dialog you chose, it really shows Treize's character, and that last battle was awesomely awesome. I'd forgotten how great it was. :D
Re: the debate... from what I remember, Treize did use the ZERO system--he told Heero so when he gave Heero Epyon. What I find interesting is that Treize MADE Epyon in the first place. He designed it. Says a lot about his state of mind.
Good video. I know what you mean about Treize. He was the main villain, and one of the few characters in the show with any complexity, and yet everyone ignores him. You realise this is one of only two tributes to him on all of YouTube? I think it's too bad he deliberately lost to Wufei; we'll never know just how good he really was.
thank you, ya he is a very complex character, its hard to tell where he is coming from. there are few tributes to him. it is a shame he deliberatly lost but i think it was all part of him master plan to create peace. i just wish we could have seen more of him in combate.
I agree; it is hard to tell where he's coming from. Was he just a megalomaniac, or was he an antivillain, out to create peace by wrecking the world's armies, etc? I honestly do believe he was a better pilot then Wufei; despite the technological gap between the Tallgeese II and the Altron he still held the upper hand for most of their fight. A pity we never get to see him fly anything on par with the Gundams; he was probably my favourite character in the show. Oh well, at least he died happy.
Tallgeese was on Par with the Gundams, he had a gundam but he couldnt handle the Zero System so he went with the Tallgeese's which still messed with the pilot and threatened it's life to an extent. the trouble people have approaching Gundam is the Concept of hero/Vilian good guy, and bad guy, most honestly"bad" chars in gundam arent main characters. Everyone has a prespective and they do the best with what they see. hope that makes some of you guys think outside the good/bad box.
Where does it show Treize trying to use the Zero system and failing? Given that he was probably the strongest character in the show mentally that idea doesn't make much sense. And the Tallgeese wasn't on par with the Gundams, especially not after their upgrade halfway through. As for seeing him as the villain, Gundam is all about shades of grey. That said, there is still a definively wrong character in each show; someone who wants to rule/end the world. The question is, was that Treize in Wing?
Seems I signed in other my brother's account last time. How embarrassing. Anyway, yes that's the general theory, but it's never explicitly confirmed. I happen to agree with it, but you still have to wonder if the way he went about it was really "right." Treize had the right goals, but the extremes he went to can and do cause some to see him as the villain. I prefer the term antivillian: doing the wrong things for all the right reasons.
@AkerGraham not true, he was a warrior, he just realised that the gundam pilots were creating a future where battles would no longer be required. As such Trieze choose humanity over his own desires to fight battles. In the end he wanted to die in the fashion of a battle since he views battles as beatiful. Death in battle is the only way he would of accepted dying.
he didnt fail , he mastered it , he may not have piloted epyon in an actual battle , he used it as a simulator to decide his actions for the future , treize is defanitly in the grey , he wanted to end the war but with honor and some sence of morality
he Gave it to Heero because it told him he had no future left, I've the uttmost respect for Treize Resolve but his personality couldnt handle the system because of his willingness to give up his life so easilly, I'm not meaning any disrespect but the fact is he saw what he needed with it and ended up taking something else, if it was a matter of the system alone he could have loaded it on Tallgeese. As for him failing to use it properly listen to what he says when he shows/gives it to Heero.
it doesnt Show him using it but he explains that it showed him he didnt have a future left causing deeper depression after giving up oz and not reqally leading the Treize Faction, his people rescued them and it wasnt until Miliardo became the leader of White Fang that he chose to take over Romafeller again.
@KartarNighthawk wat gap in power ??? talgeese were never displayed to be weaker than gundams fir one self destructer 2nd forfeited battle 3 had a 0 system which makes it better than most gundams
@TinyTitian It's a prototype. It doesn't move as well as the Gundams, and it's one of the reasons Zechs has to ditch the original: he can't keep up anymore. Tallgeese II is stated to be no stronger than I; III was a serious jump in power.
@KartarNighthawk till wrong not tryna be rude but u forget everything except 0 and epyon were weakened to the original gundam quite a bit and I cant remember clearly but zech for some reason self destructed da original talgease it was never cause it couldnt keep up with gundams. this is given more defense when zech took on mercury and that other new mobile suit at once
@KartarNighthawk yeah the Tallgese II was made from backup parts of the original Tallgese and Wufei has a fully custom gundam that was as strong as the Wing Zero. Treize could have beaten him but he wanted to die in battle and Wufei was the only one who could have killed him after Zechs declined their duel.
nice video man tallgeese II is one of my favorites
andrewalex83 3 months ago
You know, I can't help but feel that Tallgeese III is the most powerful of all the Gundams, think about it, its like a perfect cross between Epyon and Wing Zero. Its got a gun more powerful than twin buster rifle, its got the heat rod and its got the speed and agility of both, also, considering Zech's personality, he probably has Epyon's version of the Zero system on-board. Combine that with a Gundam Pilot's skill (including Zechs and Treize) and you've got one lean-mean-fighting-machine. Yeah
midgetydeath 3 months ago
@midgetydeath
Tallgeese III is powerful as hell, easily on par with Zero if not outshining it. but it isn't a gundam, it's just a mobile suit. despite any series fluff or what the suit is made of, what makes a gunda a gundam is its design. if the suit shares any remote simularities with the RX-78 (Gundam), then it is a gundam...
on a side note the RX-78 and the OZ-01 Leo are both made from Luna Titanium...so the origional series best mobile suit is equal to a Leo...yay nerdyness
BrotherZane1 1 month ago
Trieze became my favorite when i started to really understand the plot and subplots, trieze with the young kid and the mother on the dock, was a representation of him letting zech's go his own direction with the result he saw in the beauty of life was that zech's would grow to be a true peacecraft, and both played their roles they knew they had to play to bring peace, through the beauty of life, war, and death, especially trieze who saught meaning from life and death, nice vid
jadoob 4 months ago
@jamieduncan1 Zechs(Milliardo) is alive I know that. I was talking about Treize lol
5000562 6 months ago
Awesome video, Tallgeese II is one of the coolest in this series along with Mercurius and the Vayeate
andrewalex83 7 months ago
did they ever actually show the tallgeese II in the anime
Shadowkrai96 7 months ago
@Shadowkrai96 your seeing tallgeese 2 piloted by treize throughout the whole videp
jonnyjonjo 7 months ago
anybody here play DWG 3? i play online as King_Orpheous as Kai Shiden and i pilot Tallgeese 2
AidanCecile 7 months ago
@AidanCecile I got it except I don't really have a main character, oh wait! I pilot Char on Zaku II custom. I refuse to pilot my kira on my rank 4 mega shot Strike Freedom... so cheap...
ChoZenHwan 7 months ago
@ChoZenHwan
wait a minute...people actually play Kira? I thought he was just there to take op empty disc space...learn something new every day.
BrotherZane1 1 month ago
I have the toy of this gundam :D
Lance80504 7 months ago
my regards on this amazing amv sir. splendid job on capturing one of the finest fights in what was, in my opinion, the top gundam anime.
seniorwhalez1 8 months ago
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seniorwhalez1 8 months ago
Kinda amazing to see the general himself kicking white fang's asses before his men do.
Rodiguez83 8 months ago
He's a better pilot than Wufei. He can stab him with the beam saber or fires the dobber gun from behind but he choosed to kick him instead.
Rodiguez83 8 months ago
Trieze is the true hero in GW. He sacrificed himself for peace and yet nobody likes him.
Rodiguez83 8 months ago
I wholly agree with the focus on Treize, but I think that this song isn't very representative of him. He would think this style to be beneath him. :(
PrinceOfAltea 9 months ago
Here is Treize Khushrenada... BADASS!
Skyguardian12 9 months ago
Treize is my favourite character!
stealthassassin8 9 months ago
Why does Treize get no love? This is the only tribute video I could find of him.
MrKerrj 9 months ago
why did he kill the allince leaders if he left them peace have been acheived long time ago
lesyoko324 11 months ago
@lesyoko324 peace wasn't his goal until lady un was shot by tuberoff. Otherwise he would have wanted a world with an emphasis on battles and humans fighting them
Syranus66 10 months ago
@lesyoko324 Treize said from the beginning of the series that he loved war.. He couldn't even imagine living in a world without war. He knew he had a legion of soldiers who were willing to sacrifice everything for his sake and he wanted to become the World Sovereign. He even went so far as to build the Epyon Gundam to give to Zechs to destroy the Romafeller Foundation. After Zechs betrayed him he placed that trust into Hiro.
bobbyewing311 10 months ago
if treize really wanted peace he wouldn't plan to kill the alliance leaders when they were plannibng for peace for the oither colonies but well he is a good ilot nice vedio
lesyoko324 11 months ago
Pufff if it was the real tallgeese secs used.. the other guy would have died before it even started ^_^
PUN117 1 year ago
tallgeese 2 is more like a gundam than a tallgeese....
mamimiming 1 year ago
i disagree with the music choice but all things considered this is a top notch AMV. the incorporation of actual dialogue from the anime with the music playing in the background is an extremely impressive technique.
8.5 out of 10!
Azureion 1 year ago
I thank you sir i myself would like to make a tribute to the best gundam character i mean he used the equivalent of wing gundam and took on And pretty much beat a 7 times more powerful suit he was to cool
AKASUKIJOE 1 year ago
song kinda gay..
fmoa 1 year ago
tallgeesse 2 have a face of a gundam with a body of a leo ^^
ghany02 1 year ago
Still think Zechs is alot cooler, and why did he practically commit suicide at the end?
5000562 1 year ago
@5000562 im pretty sure he choose to die cause it was all part of his plan for peace. if he was still alive then there would be more reason for conflict around the earth sphear, sence he was the leader of Oz and held the majority of military power. his death was the death of Oz also
SSJL4MysticGohan 1 year ago 7
@SSJL4MysticGohan he is still alive, in endless waltz, lady un saw a ghost and it was him, plus tallgeese 3 was piloted by him
mikey980610 1 year ago
@mikey980610 trieze is dead milliardo piloted the tallgeese 3
KRkidz 1 year ago
@KRkidz oh, i meant to say zech
mikey980610 11 months ago
@SSJL4MysticGohan yeah it was a completely obvious suicide, if he was skilled in fencing I had no doubt he was also skilled with mobile suits.
r3gie831 1 year ago
@SSJL4MysticGohan
Still sucks that he dies and Zechs doesn't.
DarthRalek 8 months ago
@5000562
It was apart of Treize and Zechs' ultimate plan for World Peace. They both polarized all of humanity into two fighting forces, with Zechs drawing the worlds hatred toward Libra and Treize leading the interest of humanity. Their plan was pretty much to have a war so devastating that humanity would have no desire to fight. Or at least that was the way I took to understanding things.
FleetOfRetribution 1 year ago
@5000562 treize was the cooler character to me, he was the most influencial mobile suit pilot in the series, if it wasnt for treize, the show would have finished around episode 13. personally,n i dont see it as a suicide attempt, i think it was more wufei getting a lucky hit.
dregoth22 10 months ago
@dregoth22 After going back and watching this episode again, I think he was trying to sacrifice himself to avoid any more soldiers from being killed. He originally wanted to duel Zechs and avoid the conflict entirely, but Zechs declined. He was forced to use his men against the dolls. During the fight with Wufei, he asked Lady Unn how many of his men were killed and he started to grieve. Right after that, he sacrificed himself knowing they'd withdraw if he was killed, least that's how i see it.
bobbyewing311 9 months ago
@bobbyewing311 i still don't see it as a suicide/sacrifice, i see it more as that treize could not see a future with his pacified world was about to emerge, and that as a soldier, he has no part in that future. what i'm trying to say is that his mind was taken out of the fight because he was griving after une's casualty report, because he threw wufei psychologically by telling him the number of deaths in the conflict, he leveled he field, ensuringthe fight was fair, as treize was above all fair
dregoth22 9 months ago
@bobbyewing311 also shoud mention in addition, that treize considered wufei an equal, and probably considered a defeat to wufei honourable, after wufei struck him, pleased with wufei's development
dregoth22 9 months ago
@5000562 Zechs doesnt die, the one whoe dies is Emiliardo Peacecraft. and with him Oz.
eraven1 3 months ago
@eraven1 Milliardo Peacecraft(Zechs Marquise) does not die but Treize does.
5000562 2 months ago
Treize was gangsta
jthouston44 1 year ago
Lady Une would approve
MANSOURI09 1 year ago
I liked Tallgeese 2 ...His face looks like a GUNDAM !
Gerard167 1 year ago
treize khushrenada ...my idol..
iceman851101 1 year ago
Does Treize's character remind anyone else of Beast Wars Megatron?
Very calm, calculating, and clearly a megalomaniac. Not to mention a great villain!
andreyofdoom 1 year ago
I think Treize should have beat Wufei easily he just purged the dober gun to make it a fair fight even up close he still would have got him but you know how it is nothing is supposed to beat the gundams. if it were me i would have rewritten it so Tallgeese 2 beat the Altron but Wufei still lived he just retreated or something and Treize fought more with Tallgeese 2. another thing why don't they put Tallgeese1an2 in any games nowadays they should put them both in the next D.W. Gundam
Rozlelous1165 2 years ago
actually Tallgeese II was a cool deisgn, espically the head. Too bad it only appear at the back of the series
maxtergundam 2 years ago
yea they should have put that same mohawk on tallgeese 3
headhunta36s 1 year ago
wow nice Gundam wing vid ^^
Treize isn't really the bad guy :p
Nice music ^^
ArsiekDHOL 2 years ago
treize khushrenada proving posh people can kick ass ass well :P
twotonesamurai 2 years ago
This AMV is pretty damn epic. I love it!! Fantastic work, and great timing. I love the dialog you chose, it really shows Treize's character, and that last battle was awesomely awesome. I'd forgotten how great it was. :D
Re: the debate... from what I remember, Treize did use the ZERO system--he told Heero so when he gave Heero Epyon. What I find interesting is that Treize MADE Epyon in the first place. He designed it. Says a lot about his state of mind.
cozzybob 2 years ago
Treize was what wing was about, wish i had a really quality wallpaper for trieze and tallgueese II but nothing exists but screen captures.
MorroWolf 2 years ago
Treize is what wing should have been about!
smoth7 2 years ago
The second greatest fight in gundam history but the 1st is always Wing Zero vs. Epyon
Optimus313 2 years ago
me is going to watch wing again just to see trieze kick ass again :D
didnt originally like tallgeese 2 but fuck this vid has made me love it
twotonesamurai 2 years ago 3
Great movie, and you're right about Trieze deserving more credit.
Tellemicus 3 years ago 3
Good video. I know what you mean about Treize. He was the main villain, and one of the few characters in the show with any complexity, and yet everyone ignores him. You realise this is one of only two tributes to him on all of YouTube? I think it's too bad he deliberately lost to Wufei; we'll never know just how good he really was.
KartarNighthawk 3 years ago 7
thank you, ya he is a very complex character, its hard to tell where he is coming from. there are few tributes to him. it is a shame he deliberatly lost but i think it was all part of him master plan to create peace. i just wish we could have seen more of him in combate.
SSJL4MysticGohan 3 years ago
I agree; it is hard to tell where he's coming from. Was he just a megalomaniac, or was he an antivillain, out to create peace by wrecking the world's armies, etc? I honestly do believe he was a better pilot then Wufei; despite the technological gap between the Tallgeese II and the Altron he still held the upper hand for most of their fight. A pity we never get to see him fly anything on par with the Gundams; he was probably my favourite character in the show. Oh well, at least he died happy.
KartarNighthawk 3 years ago 10
Tallgeese was on Par with the Gundams, he had a gundam but he couldnt handle the Zero System so he went with the Tallgeese's which still messed with the pilot and threatened it's life to an extent. the trouble people have approaching Gundam is the Concept of hero/Vilian good guy, and bad guy, most honestly"bad" chars in gundam arent main characters. Everyone has a prespective and they do the best with what they see. hope that makes some of you guys think outside the good/bad box.
Spiderwriter 2 years ago
Where does it show Treize trying to use the Zero system and failing? Given that he was probably the strongest character in the show mentally that idea doesn't make much sense. And the Tallgeese wasn't on par with the Gundams, especially not after their upgrade halfway through. As for seeing him as the villain, Gundam is all about shades of grey. That said, there is still a definively wrong character in each show; someone who wants to rule/end the world. The question is, was that Treize in Wing?
IwillHulkOutOnYou 2 years ago
trieze wanted total pacifism so he sacrifrice his life to do that in his search and he trusted the future to the gundams
AkerGraham 2 years ago
Seems I signed in other my brother's account last time. How embarrassing. Anyway, yes that's the general theory, but it's never explicitly confirmed. I happen to agree with it, but you still have to wonder if the way he went about it was really "right." Treize had the right goals, but the extremes he went to can and do cause some to see him as the villain. I prefer the term antivillian: doing the wrong things for all the right reasons.
KartarNighthawk 2 years ago
@AkerGraham not true, he was a warrior, he just realised that the gundam pilots were creating a future where battles would no longer be required. As such Trieze choose humanity over his own desires to fight battles. In the end he wanted to die in the fashion of a battle since he views battles as beatiful. Death in battle is the only way he would of accepted dying.
Syranus66 10 months ago
he didnt fail , he mastered it , he may not have piloted epyon in an actual battle , he used it as a simulator to decide his actions for the future , treize is defanitly in the grey , he wanted to end the war but with honor and some sence of morality
Taov001 2 years ago
treize could of handle the zero system he gave it to heero ebcuase he know he can make it and sucued really you underestimate treize too much.
AkerGraham 2 years ago
he Gave it to Heero because it told him he had no future left, I've the uttmost respect for Treize Resolve but his personality couldnt handle the system because of his willingness to give up his life so easilly, I'm not meaning any disrespect but the fact is he saw what he needed with it and ended up taking something else, if it was a matter of the system alone he could have loaded it on Tallgeese. As for him failing to use it properly listen to what he says when he shows/gives it to Heero.
Spiderwriter 2 years ago
it doesnt Show him using it but he explains that it showed him he didnt have a future left causing deeper depression after giving up oz and not reqally leading the Treize Faction, his people rescued them and it wasnt until Miliardo became the leader of White Fang that he chose to take over Romafeller again.
Spiderwriter 2 years ago
@KartarNighthawk wat gap in power ??? talgeese were never displayed to be weaker than gundams fir one self destructer 2nd forfeited battle 3 had a 0 system which makes it better than most gundams
TinyTitian 1 year ago
@TinyTitian It's a prototype. It doesn't move as well as the Gundams, and it's one of the reasons Zechs has to ditch the original: he can't keep up anymore. Tallgeese II is stated to be no stronger than I; III was a serious jump in power.
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@KartarNighthawk till wrong not tryna be rude but u forget everything except 0 and epyon were weakened to the original gundam quite a bit and I cant remember clearly but zech for some reason self destructed da original talgease it was never cause it couldnt keep up with gundams. this is given more defense when zech took on mercury and that other new mobile suit at once
TinyTitian 1 year ago
@KartarNighthawk yeah the Tallgese II was made from backup parts of the original Tallgese and Wufei has a fully custom gundam that was as strong as the Wing Zero. Treize could have beaten him but he wanted to die in battle and Wufei was the only one who could have killed him after Zechs declined their duel.
bobbyewing311 10 months ago
@KartarNighthawk i was under the impresion the tallgeese was on par with a gundam, or at least the original gundams, before upgrading
dregoth22 9 months ago
whats that music we at the start? i really want to know :D
nigete 3 years ago
its Powerman 5000's "Drop The Bomb Shell"
SSJL4MysticGohan 3 years ago
good job man 5\5
luisandres95 3 years ago 2
You make a good point about Treize. Great vid man, keep it up.
slkdragon 3 years ago 4
Thank You. Ill keep it up!
SSJL4MysticGohan 3 years ago
Wow, someone did a good Gundam vid. Thank you for adding something that wasn't crap. Rock on!
darttheold 3 years ago
thank you
SSJL4MysticGohan 3 years ago
This is goog it made me want the 1/100 tallgeese III so i could turn it to talgeese I&II
DestinyFreedom 3 years ago
hey thanks, i cant belive someone already commented on it, i only uploaded it a few hours ago.
SSJL4MysticGohan 3 years ago