Don't hate on the father, he thought he was doing what was best for his son. He's a tradititionalist and views acting as a highly unstable career. He wanted the best life for Niel!!
@JeeMcG The inability to communicate to another person, especially someone you share familial bonds with, is, I think the one of the most terrible things that could happen. The huge chasm between the way each of them see the world contributes to such a crippling handicap. Seriously, what a colossal waste...
I'm not sure if this was intentional or not, but at 9:00, in my opinion, Neil resembled Jesus Christ, naked and wearing a crown of thorns, awaiting his crucifixion. Insanely powerful imagery...
@sraphael I'm sure there were certain intentions veering on the idea of the crown of thorns imagery and it worked brilliantly. Truly, one of the most powerful moments in the movie.
everybody is absolutely free to think everything. Just a statement. I'm a musician, and I can perfectly understand what Neal feels. Acting, like playing music or composing, is not just a gift, but also, and overall, the result of a strong will and discipline. I choose to study music after high school and so I can say with any incertainty that it's IMPOSSIBLE to get high results in both things, university and acting. The courses of acting and "dramatic performance" last 10 years!
There was a window of opportunity there for Neil, if he just had courage for a few more seconds he could of won over his Dad, his Dad just wanted to know that he could stand up for himself, hence 'tell me what you feel?', if Neil had gone for it then and said No I will run my own life, everything would of been fine.
@werfhu This is not wisdom,it´s common sense. Consider the context: a long,difficult father-son relationship,with Neil being afraid of his father to an extent that makes him feel he doesn't have a say in what to do with his life,and his father being disappointed in himself and trying to lessen this by making Neil do what he had wanted to do,incapable of seeing that Neil has his own wishes.Yes,he asked the question,but without leaving room for an honest answer.No wonder Neil doesn't give him one.
@Marjomiffy exactly! that's why i call him a coward. just like what you've said, he was afraid of his father to the point that he felt like he had no control over his own life. all those time, he had been giving in to his father's wishes and never tried to stand up for his own desires. he never had the courage to break free from his father even though he knew that it was destroying him from the inside. he was scared and he never tried to face it- that was the only point i was trying to get at.
@werfhu But the thing is: to me, there is a difference between calling someone 'scared' and calling someone a 'coward'. Because the latter has a judgement in it, it implies that someone could and should not be scared. A coward wouldn't have tried, would have had a fair chance and not use it. I feel Neil díd try, he just didn't succeed, because, again, his father's intimidating behaviour did not give him a 'real' chance. But i realize we might just have different definitions of the word coward:)
@werfhu i do, in a way, understand you're opinion, but i'd like to shed a new light: it's very easy to dismiss neil as a coward, but consider the fact that neil expected to fall in line, abide his father's wishes on how to lead his life.. he's sent away to a preparatory school that promotes this same ideal, and then mr. keating comes along and offers a breath of fresh air, an escape, a new vision.
he embarks on a voyage into this foreign world presented by mr. keating, and, in the end, he's reeled back into 'reality' when his father yanks his proverbial chain and reminds him who's master, and who's dog.
have you ever experienced a futility so beautifully complete? i don't believe cowardice was neil's demise. he snuck a peak at the world and got smacked for it. he lost hope.
It's pretty much a caricature of a parent. There are almost no American parents who are like that. There are many who do not care about their kids, or who are not around to raise them. There are many who would rather their kid play football and than be in a play. But most of the forms parental authority takes are really not like this. It also may be a case for having more than one kid.
It's pretty much a caricature of a parent. There are almost no American parents who are like that. There are many who do not care about their kids, or who are not around to raise them. There are many who would rather their kid play football and than be in a play. But most of the forms parental authority takes are really not like this.
Seriously, no PARENT wants the worst for his child, and it looks to me, Mr. Perry only thinks or wants anything according to his way. He is obviously a bad type of parent. How I wish Neil stood up to him rather than just responding!
Why didn't he speak? Why didn't he say it all, all in one breath, God damn it! Why? Why? Is it always thus with our lifes - "to live" must equal "to suffer"? Or is suffering the very purification of our souls, so that we can grasp the true meaning of our existence?
The only question which has bothered me for many sleepless nights is whether his choice (Neal's choice) is to be considered the choice of the weakest, of those that are unfit to fight their way through life? Or?
@Mortdefides i think it is the choice of the weakest. he ran away. he didn't want to confront that which challenged his courage and conviction. he chose to end his suffering without having to feel the pain. it is always easier to give up and run away. it hurts much less than fighting.
It is like " we are all free, individuals " and here comes despotic father, doesn´t he realize the more he will push the less he will want what father want and follow his own view? You can´t have obedient sheep which will do whatever you say and strong creative personality at the same time. Thans God my parents are not like that. I could always choose voluntarily, and they have always supported me, I´m so grateful.
Doesn't Harvard have an acting group? Can his father watch him every second he's at college? Cambridge has "Footlights" that has launched the careers of many performers in England.
I mean, he could still get a good degree, pre-med or whatever, then stop and pursue the acting. He'll be over 18 by then. As long as he's prepared to wave goodbye to his allowance, then... ?
Coward because his father still ended up deciding for him by putting giving an "either live by my rules or not at all" out look on his life and own self worth.
Neil represented everything that his father had suppressed in himself. Sad...it's not about Neil defying his father it's about living life and being true to yourself
Why must it be either acting or Harvard? He can have both because he's good at his studies AND acting. Just because he likes acting doesn't mean he's ruining his life. Gosh, his dad sure has a shallow view of success and life.
@nickshinoda It's a movie, not a biography. There's a reason they did the movie this way, and that's because Neils death makes it sad, yet beautiful. I thought the ending was absolutely perfect
@nickshinoda That's just how it was in those days, especially among families that send their children to the best schools. You're expected to go into a professional career much like your own father would have had. It sucks but it still exists today. My own grandfather told me that the day I became a penniless musician was the day hell froze over..great stuff!
For years I hated Kurtwood Smith because of the character he played in this movie -- what a fucking asshole of a father! But now, I think of him as Red Foreman on That 70's show, so I'm not as mad.
I wish I felt some sympathy for him but I don't. Neil was so kind and good and did everything his father wanted him to and asked for nothing in return but that his father accept him and his love for acting and his Dad couldn't even do that. Treated Neil like some sort of indentured servant rather than a son. His dad deserves that guilt for driving Neil to do it by squelching his dreams underfoot.
WHat? he gave a shit about his sons education man. and once his son displayed conviction he said he was cool with him doing his thing ~ only if he stuck out his school work. And he struggled 2 fun that education. Great father.
You can care about education and still be abusive. Neil lied to Mr. Keating about his father saying he could do the play, why else would he drag Neil out of the theater and enroll him in military school. Plus, with an office that looks like that, I don't think he struggling that much.
its just the way the father was brought up. he wanted his son 2 achieve things he never had the chance to. He doesnt think his son is gonna get anywhere near his potential following a path of the arts. I understand that much. I dont think its his fault is just life man. harsh as it is. If he didnt give a shit about his son, he wudnt have been at a school like that in the first place. hed end up pissed off with education altogether and being a proper space cadet.
yeah, it probably was the way his father was brought up, that's how abuse gets perpetuated. According to your logic, parents can't really properly care about their children unless they control every choice they make. Do you think it is better to be miserable, with a job your dad wanted you to have, than to do something you love but maybe make less money? Come on.
i am a parent who does NOT want to be like the dad. we are stuck between wanting the best for our children, & wanting ourselves to look good. it's not right, & i have learned alot from this movie.
i find it ironic how neil (the person who plays him) grows up to act in house!!! lol. and the father is so against acting when he's in a movie. lol. sorry to point out such stupid things
but on the other hand, yes, i agree with all of you-the parents are so overreacting coz their son was in a bloody shakespearean play.
theyre not gna let him ruin his life they are going to do it for him. fecking twat parents like this make me sick. his mum is clearly being influenced by his dad.
What kind of parents ARE these freakazoids? The father is blowing his stack and the mother is breaking down and bawling... because their son was in a freaking PLAY?
People like Mr. Perry are the reason that I don't have much sympathy for kids in gangs or druggie kids. My dad was like that and still is. Guilting, yelling, trying to control me. He was just like Neil's Dad too, grew up working-class, but went out and got that law degree. He basically screwed over my social life so I would turn out educated and be "a good Catholic". And if I stepped out of line I would be called a spoiled brat. Often I longed to be like the druggie kids who's parents didnt care
that's the big conflict. His father has dedicated his life to giving Neil the shot he didn't have.
And it's a legit concern-for every big actor who can live a happy, pleasant life, there's a thousand understudies who never get to be big, and have to scrounge for money most of their lives. No parent wants that for their kid.
In turn, it's not a parent's job to plan and mark every inch of a kids life-the parent's job is to train them to be ready, and to equip them to handle life as they face it.
you always think he will let his son do this for his life now he has seen his passion to do it, but thats fantasy, and the reality is parents want what they want for their kids
Parents shouldn't force their kids to do something they don't want to do because their parents were failures it drives their kids to suicide because parents are pushing them too much and mapping out their lives they cant take the strain
My stepdad wants me to go to college and study art! Cause its the only thing Im good at, but I wanna be a receptionist! xD And he said it was a waste of time me spending three years at college studying Office Admin! Tho I got all the qualifications I need to be a receptionist from it! xD So really it wasnt a waste of time! xD
Well really my dream was to be a poet after two of my poems was published in two diffrent poetry books, but then Sandy, who inspired me to do that, he died and I've never really wrote a peom since! But then I was offered a place in a Receptionist/Admin course, so went for it and thought it was really cool! xD So then thought "Omg! I wanna be a receptionist!" xD
just fail your exams mate then you'll be kicked out of medical school, no need for that!
aNya1127 1 month ago in playlist More videos from DPSmember3
wow, the comments for this spoiled it for me so hard. screw everybody.
demerh2 3 months ago
@demerh2 I don't ever read the comments on youtube when watching a movie I never seen before
SuperHeroMania 2 months ago
Whats the music playing in the background when Neil walks down the stairs? about to kill himself.
coylehr123 3 months ago
I cry everytime i see this scene, it's so sad that a happy so full of life extinguish in a second
ViviChiki 3 months ago 2
damn Red got a great parking spot
marblesdanica 4 months ago
Please make available on mobile!
smokeordieganja 4 months ago
Don't hate on the father, he thought he was doing what was best for his son. He's a tradititionalist and views acting as a highly unstable career. He wanted the best life for Niel!!
belignacack 4 months ago
@belignacack but that killed his son :)
andrzejnher4eva 2 months ago
It is a harrowing silence when Neil cannot tell his father how he actually feels. I was crying out for him!
JeeMcG 6 months ago 8
@JeeMcG The inability to communicate to another person, especially someone you share familial bonds with, is, I think the one of the most terrible things that could happen. The huge chasm between the way each of them see the world contributes to such a crippling handicap. Seriously, what a colossal waste...
firefly92urna 4 months ago
HIS FATHER IS SUCH AN ASS! he drove Neil to his death!
TBlucy 7 months ago 7
niel : Dad bite me..leaves the room n slums the door...(director forgot that part)
janiseize 7 months ago 4
I hate parents who treat their children as if they're robots to command and not actual people with minds of their own.
ambereyes93 7 months ago 8
So...It was his dad that forced him to become Dr.James Wilson!!
katich5 7 months ago in playlist Dead Poets Society
His Dad is probably a TeleMarket Salesman :D
xWedGHead 7 months ago
Nothing...it was at that moment he knew he was gonna...for a lack of a better term, off himself.
TheWitcherFanboy 8 months ago
I'm not sure if this was intentional or not, but at 9:00, in my opinion, Neil resembled Jesus Christ, naked and wearing a crown of thorns, awaiting his crucifixion. Insanely powerful imagery...
sraphael 8 months ago 30
@sraphael Good spotting! I think you're right on the money.
zarathustraq 8 months ago
@sraphael I'm sure there were certain intentions veering on the idea of the crown of thorns imagery and it worked brilliantly. Truly, one of the most powerful moments in the movie.
firefly92urna 4 months ago
Neils dad is a fucken' douchebag.
YellingInMyEar 9 months ago 4
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Thumbs up if you thought Neil's dad was an A**HOLE!!!
towelkit465 10 months ago
In all honesty, that did look like a fuck-off bad performance of 'A Midsummer Night's Dream'.
MrTastypigeon 11 months ago
Well at least Knox gets the girl :/
Littlemiss506 1 year ago
....i would have been very glad to have gone to a school like this....i got my ged in a juvenile detention facility
jethro035181 1 year ago
JESUS CHRISST!!! 9:17
faofakon 1 year ago
why choose death anyways? he could have just rana way and really tell his parents about how he feels he took the non-valiant way out
watashiwanachodes 1 year ago
everybody is absolutely free to think everything. Just a statement. I'm a musician, and I can perfectly understand what Neal feels. Acting, like playing music or composing, is not just a gift, but also, and overall, the result of a strong will and discipline. I choose to study music after high school and so I can say with any incertainty that it's IMPOSSIBLE to get high results in both things, university and acting. The courses of acting and "dramatic performance" last 10 years!
lugapsax 1 year ago
@lugapsax we get it, you're a musician......
diddealmqvist 1 year ago
not sure where you're getting 10 years from dude. i dare say you have no clue what you're talking about.
defiantwon33 1 year ago
@defiantwon33 I'm italian, and in Italy the conservatory courses (with specialization) of acting and dramatic performance last ten years.
lugapsax 1 year ago
@lugapsax lol. i knew there had to be reason -- the reason why i said "i dare say..."
defiantwon33 1 year ago
the music that starts at 8:00 is just perfect
ceilingkatt 1 year ago
@ceilingkatt Yes, very beautiful music but who composer this music, and what is the title?
tdgdfgd 1 year ago
@tdgdfgd David Hykes- Rainbow Voice
reptile1000 2 weeks ago
1:13-2:00 makes me shiver every time =D
diddealmqvist 1 year ago
There was a window of opportunity there for Neil, if he just had courage for a few more seconds he could of won over his Dad, his Dad just wanted to know that he could stand up for himself, hence 'tell me what you feel?', if Neil had gone for it then and said No I will run my own life, everything would of been fine.
saintlysinner666 1 year ago
Dayum those parants are so lucky im not theit son.
Id murded them in their sleep and took the money.
DawnFailCry 1 year ago
8:02 - whoa, mama.
glassoniongirl64 1 year ago
neil became a doctor! dr. wilson :)
exsavant 1 year ago
stuuupid! why the hell didn't he say something whan he had the chance to speak! goddamnit -.-
LaskaSkywalker 1 year ago
damn it! his father was asking him how he felt and he just said nothing..... coward!
werfhu 1 year ago
@werfhu By making this comment, you just proved yourself to be just as shallow and narrow minded as Neil's father.
Marjomiffy 1 year ago
@Marjomiffy how come? tell me wise person
werfhu 1 year ago
@werfhu This is not wisdom,it´s common sense. Consider the context: a long,difficult father-son relationship,with Neil being afraid of his father to an extent that makes him feel he doesn't have a say in what to do with his life,and his father being disappointed in himself and trying to lessen this by making Neil do what he had wanted to do,incapable of seeing that Neil has his own wishes.Yes,he asked the question,but without leaving room for an honest answer.No wonder Neil doesn't give him one.
Marjomiffy 1 year ago
@Marjomiffy exactly! that's why i call him a coward. just like what you've said, he was afraid of his father to the point that he felt like he had no control over his own life. all those time, he had been giving in to his father's wishes and never tried to stand up for his own desires. he never had the courage to break free from his father even though he knew that it was destroying him from the inside. he was scared and he never tried to face it- that was the only point i was trying to get at.
werfhu 1 year ago
@werfhu But the thing is: to me, there is a difference between calling someone 'scared' and calling someone a 'coward'. Because the latter has a judgement in it, it implies that someone could and should not be scared. A coward wouldn't have tried, would have had a fair chance and not use it. I feel Neil díd try, he just didn't succeed, because, again, his father's intimidating behaviour did not give him a 'real' chance. But i realize we might just have different definitions of the word coward:)
Marjomiffy 1 year ago
@werfhu i do, in a way, understand you're opinion, but i'd like to shed a new light: it's very easy to dismiss neil as a coward, but consider the fact that neil expected to fall in line, abide his father's wishes on how to lead his life.. he's sent away to a preparatory school that promotes this same ideal, and then mr. keating comes along and offers a breath of fresh air, an escape, a new vision.
defiantwon33 1 year ago
he embarks on a voyage into this foreign world presented by mr. keating, and, in the end, he's reeled back into 'reality' when his father yanks his proverbial chain and reminds him who's master, and who's dog.
have you ever experienced a futility so beautifully complete? i don't believe cowardice was neil's demise. he snuck a peak at the world and got smacked for it. he lost hope.
defiantwon33 1 year ago 7
(correction to the second line of the first entry: "neil WAS expected")
defiantwon33 1 year ago
I can just picture what's going on through Neil's head during the final applause @ 2:50.
"This is amazing, but once I get out of here, I'm soooooo fucked"
BloggerMusicMan 1 year ago
ughrr!! i hate his father!
TheMsSingapore 1 year ago
what do you call that thing on neils head at 8:50?
zJONNYz 1 year ago
It's pretty much a caricature of a parent. There are almost no American parents who are like that. There are many who do not care about their kids, or who are not around to raise them. There are many who would rather their kid play football and than be in a play. But most of the forms parental authority takes are really not like this. It also may be a case for having more than one kid.
hpd929 1 year ago
It's pretty much a caricature of a parent. There are almost no American parents who are like that. There are many who do not care about their kids, or who are not around to raise them. There are many who would rather their kid play football and than be in a play. But most of the forms parental authority takes are really not like this.
hpd929 1 year ago
Neil should do what he wants. No one surely wants to live regret, wishing they did the things they wished they did..
natash1029 1 year ago
Seriously, no PARENT wants the worst for his child, and it looks to me, Mr. Perry only thinks or wants anything according to his way. He is obviously a bad type of parent. How I wish Neil stood up to him rather than just responding!
natash1029 1 year ago
Why didn't he speak? Why didn't he say it all, all in one breath, God damn it! Why? Why? Is it always thus with our lifes - "to live" must equal "to suffer"? Or is suffering the very purification of our souls, so that we can grasp the true meaning of our existence?
The only question which has bothered me for many sleepless nights is whether his choice (Neal's choice) is to be considered the choice of the weakest, of those that are unfit to fight their way through life? Or?
Mortdefides 1 year ago
@Mortdefides i think it is the choice of the weakest. he ran away. he didn't want to confront that which challenged his courage and conviction. he chose to end his suffering without having to feel the pain. it is always easier to give up and run away. it hurts much less than fighting.
werfhu 1 year ago
i think one can take acting major at harvard?
nappietime 1 year ago
his wife is sheep, go on, your son will be too.
ondeia 1 year ago
It is like " we are all free, individuals " and here comes despotic father, doesn´t he realize the more he will push the less he will want what father want and follow his own view? You can´t have obedient sheep which will do whatever you say and strong creative personality at the same time. Thans God my parents are not like that. I could always choose voluntarily, and they have always supported me, I´m so grateful.
ondeia 1 year ago
this is how NOT to be a father
krusha666 1 year ago 30
what is it with women wanting rights, eh? this film is so crappy in its depictions of women- i know it was the 50s, but still. and i'm no feminist.
tfsahaodj 1 year ago
He's alright! He's alright! He's alright! He's alright! He's alright! He's alright! He's alright! He's alright! He's alright! He's alright! He's alright! He's alright ! x 1,000,000
lol!!!!
hattu99 1 year ago
Doesn't Harvard have an acting group? Can his father watch him every second he's at college? Cambridge has "Footlights" that has launched the careers of many performers in England.
I mean, he could still get a good degree, pre-med or whatever, then stop and pursue the acting. He'll be over 18 by then. As long as he's prepared to wave goodbye to his allowance, then... ?
queenastilon 1 year ago
jesus crist 8:34
Whitegoogle 1 year ago
finally became doctor.....
emizapita 1 year ago
Gosh. Neil's dad is so blind. What is with him and "opportunity"?
"Opportunity" is a very vast and complex thing, and one does not simply limit it to just going to Harvard and being a doctor.
kookykooky9090 1 year ago 4
This is such a tragic ending. I love the film though!!!!!
ichunderedeverywhere 1 year ago 2
i love robert sean leonard.
monkibizniz 1 year ago 2
Agh, this movie is my favourite! We watched it last week in English 9, and I thought it was brillitant, not many people caught the message tho.
warcraftgabe 2 years ago 4
the cut where Neil is talking directly to his father is really powerful.
gnuochtapir 2 years ago 4
dickhead
akoljrkdsf 2 years ago
Ironic that he says Puck's outro while his father is there
fretboard101 2 years ago 9
Is Neil a coward for sacrificing himself or a martyr for not allowing his father to dictate his life?
lawman7117 2 years ago 6
Coward because his father still ended up deciding for him by putting giving an "either live by my rules or not at all" out look on his life and own self worth.
d3v1llad1sc3wl 2 years ago
But he was in that 70's show.
1234legend1234 2 years ago
good acting
esfspf 2 years ago 5
Neil represented everything that his father had suppressed in himself. Sad...it's not about Neil defying his father it's about living life and being true to yourself
judyrusso 2 years ago 7
well, and he became a doctor...
doctor james wilson
LittleVampireLuna 2 years ago 6
I'm sure the mom divorced the dad after Neil's suicide. I wouldn't want to stay married to a man like that.
texasmom131 2 years ago
Youd be very surprised what kind of men some women stay married too.
IanJonWhatever 2 years ago 9
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solt87 2 years ago
He lives!! And became Doctor Wilson.
FadeLLW 2 years ago 6
Why must it be either acting or Harvard? He can have both because he's good at his studies AND acting. Just because he likes acting doesn't mean he's ruining his life. Gosh, his dad sure has a shallow view of success and life.
nickshinoda 2 years ago 111
or acting at Harvard?!
dweebcentric 2 years ago
thats kinda the point haha..
BringOnTheRainxx3 2 years ago
@nickshinoda Perhaps his dad realised he'd ultimately end up co-starring in a shit series with a cantankerous Englishman.
Alceste1977 1 year ago
@nickshinoda It's a movie, not a biography. There's a reason they did the movie this way, and that's because Neils death makes it sad, yet beautiful. I thought the ending was absolutely perfect
diddealmqvist 1 year ago
@nickshinoda That's just how it was in those days, especially among families that send their children to the best schools. You're expected to go into a professional career much like your own father would have had. It sucks but it still exists today. My own grandfather told me that the day I became a penniless musician was the day hell froze over..great stuff!
silverlightbeam 1 year ago
Is it ironic that he plays Wilson on House?
BrassNerd2K11 2 years ago 7
No. It's not.
xxwhateverx0 2 years ago 4
Kurtwood Smith is scary as hell without any "foot-in-the-ass" jokes to lighten his character's mood.
redchucktaylors5 2 years ago 71
@redchucktaylors5 'crime does not pay'
:-)
alexgatos78 10 months ago
fair
wokensoulsounds07 2 years ago
It's sad to say...but...this is how my household is...exactly. =/
YugoGoodies 2 years ago
hahahaha its Puck the fairy ^_-
Polkadot3R 2 years ago
oh... my mistake i spoke too soon. (before 4:00)
wokensoulsounds07 2 years ago
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bostonscholar 2 years ago
For years I hated Kurtwood Smith because of the character he played in this movie -- what a fucking asshole of a father! But now, I think of him as Red Foreman on That 70's show, so I'm not as mad.
collegeman1988 2 years ago 4
I always felt a bit sorry for Kurtwood Smiths character. When he finds Neil dead it's well sad.
sparkyinbath 2 years ago
I wish I felt some sympathy for him but I don't. Neil was so kind and good and did everything his father wanted him to and asked for nothing in return but that his father accept him and his love for acting and his Dad couldn't even do that. Treated Neil like some sort of indentured servant rather than a son. His dad deserves that guilt for driving Neil to do it by squelching his dreams underfoot.
zinnycat1597 2 years ago 5
WHat? he gave a shit about his sons education man. and once his son displayed conviction he said he was cool with him doing his thing ~ only if he stuck out his school work. And he struggled 2 fun that education. Great father.
wokensoulsounds07 2 years ago
You can care about education and still be abusive. Neil lied to Mr. Keating about his father saying he could do the play, why else would he drag Neil out of the theater and enroll him in military school. Plus, with an office that looks like that, I don't think he struggling that much.
notplaystation 2 years ago 3
its just the way the father was brought up. he wanted his son 2 achieve things he never had the chance to. He doesnt think his son is gonna get anywhere near his potential following a path of the arts. I understand that much. I dont think its his fault is just life man. harsh as it is. If he didnt give a shit about his son, he wudnt have been at a school like that in the first place. hed end up pissed off with education altogether and being a proper space cadet.
wokensoulsounds07 2 years ago 2
yeah, it probably was the way his father was brought up, that's how abuse gets perpetuated. According to your logic, parents can't really properly care about their children unless they control every choice they make. Do you think it is better to be miserable, with a job your dad wanted you to have, than to do something you love but maybe make less money? Come on.
notplaystation 2 years ago 5
control is an illusion created by people who are scared
CauseOfDeath27 2 years ago 12
i am a parent who does NOT want to be like the dad. we are stuck between wanting the best for our children, & wanting ourselves to look good. it's not right, & i have learned alot from this movie.
mrsgoatlady77 2 years ago 9
i find it ironic how neil (the person who plays him) grows up to act in house!!! lol. and the father is so against acting when he's in a movie. lol. sorry to point out such stupid things
but on the other hand, yes, i agree with all of you-the parents are so overreacting coz their son was in a bloody shakespearean play.
ThisIsMe113 2 years ago
has anyone else noticed: that they're all teens...around their 17's and they all smoke and drink lol
aaronh250 2 years ago 4
16 is the legal limit in england? or is this an american film?
LaSelik 2 years ago
Welton Acadamy is located in Vermont.
knutfan1234567890 2 years ago
I love the way the other YAWP for him
far more fitting than a thousand 'bravos'
Sate12 2 years ago 2
It's this line is works on two levels. Too bad Red is gonna put his fut in Neil's ass...
kidparadox24 2 years ago 4
I was just waiting for someone to bring up that great That 70's Show line. LMAO
brad736 2 years ago
theyre not gna let him ruin his life they are going to do it for him. fecking twat parents like this make me sick. his mum is clearly being influenced by his dad.
lizikanes101 2 years ago 2
lol, i know
IoSonoUomo 2 years ago
What kind of parents ARE these freakazoids? The father is blowing his stack and the mother is breaking down and bawling... because their son was in a freaking PLAY?
These people are sick!
WDM04002 2 years ago 12
hahaha yeah, i pointed that out, the dad's acting like he caught his kid snorting a massive line of cocaine.
IoSonoUomo 2 years ago 4
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The play was so gay.
zoolender001 2 years ago
You could always tell that Neil was a little manic, the way he got excited over things. The parents pretty much got what they asked for.
peppermint23 2 years ago
I like the way Neil looks at his dad to deliver his lines.
IoSonoUomo 2 years ago 4
I wonder if Neil's dad got his skills through the military in WWII. That would explain his hardass personality.
IoSonoUomo 2 years ago
Im not sure but i think it was implied earlier that his dad was in the military. That was prolly why he wanted to enroll Neil in military school.
kdbarbaro 2 years ago
what kind of dickwad doesnt even appreciate how their son did in a play?
IoSonoUomo 2 years ago 2
My mum did that once, i always find this bit of the film hardest to watch.
leathertuskadero 2 years ago
your mom did what once?
IoSonoUomo 2 years ago
Came to see a play i was in once and humiliated me in front of all my friends and dragged me out of the theatre afterwards.
leathertuskadero 2 years ago
People like Mr. Perry are the reason that I don't have much sympathy for kids in gangs or druggie kids. My dad was like that and still is. Guilting, yelling, trying to control me. He was just like Neil's Dad too, grew up working-class, but went out and got that law degree. He basically screwed over my social life so I would turn out educated and be "a good Catholic". And if I stepped out of line I would be called a spoiled brat. Often I longed to be like the druggie kids who's parents didnt care
IoSonoUomo 2 years ago
I'd beat the emo outta my kids.
ZycoZee 2 years ago
8:50. He sort of looks like Jim Carrey.
lopezheavy 2 years ago 5
Here's where the father showed he failed in his duty. His son couldn't even respond with what he felt.
marluxes 2 years ago 4
CHICKEN!!!!!!!!!!
jomoses07 2 years ago
argh neil had the perfect opportunity to talk to his father! he should have, even if it would upset his mother. i mean, he dies anyway.
ryuzakineark 2 years ago
i cant belive he killed himself 8(
doby214 2 years ago 2
Parents living their dreams through kids
iloveyourstorytoo 2 years ago 2
I can kind of see Neils fathers point. Because he doswn't want neil to be like himself
TheJaneforever 2 years ago
that's the big conflict. His father has dedicated his life to giving Neil the shot he didn't have.
And it's a legit concern-for every big actor who can live a happy, pleasant life, there's a thousand understudies who never get to be big, and have to scrounge for money most of their lives. No parent wants that for their kid.
In turn, it's not a parent's job to plan and mark every inch of a kids life-the parent's job is to train them to be ready, and to equip them to handle life as they face it.
marluxes 2 years ago
you always think he will let his son do this for his life now he has seen his passion to do it, but thats fantasy, and the reality is parents want what they want for their kids
xaxie1 2 years ago 2
Gosh... i want to cry
TwT
DearPrudenceable 2 years ago
Neil's father also hated being proved wrong by way of a standing ovation.
kanshou 2 years ago 3
Parents shouldn't force their kids to do something they don't want to do because their parents were failures it drives their kids to suicide because parents are pushing them too much and mapping out their lives they cant take the strain
askinner621 2 years ago 11
God, I know how that poor guy feels!
My stepdad wants me to go to college and study art! Cause its the only thing Im good at, but I wanna be a receptionist! xD And he said it was a waste of time me spending three years at college studying Office Admin! Tho I got all the qualifications I need to be a receptionist from it! xD So really it wasnt a waste of time! xD
EllieLingafelt 2 years ago
Do what you enjoy......... It is a long life when we are unhappy......
woowoo1967 2 years ago
Your dream was to become a receptionist??? LOL
iloveyourstorytoo 2 years ago 2
Well really my dream was to be a poet after two of my poems was published in two diffrent poetry books, but then Sandy, who inspired me to do that, he died and I've never really wrote a peom since! But then I was offered a place in a Receptionist/Admin course, so went for it and thought it was really cool! xD So then thought "Omg! I wanna be a receptionist!" xD
EllieLingafelt 2 years ago
gahhh...that would be horrible if your parents were just like, "youre gonna be a doctor. OK?"
marijanie333 2 years ago 6
"You'll just be a failure in life" and "Stop playing that guitar it's a waste of time" are not good either
DanyNicola 2 years ago 5
and i know what you mean
karlaadm 2 years ago 2
yeah It would
uscfb10 2 years ago 2
at 6:42, i just feel like giving neil a hug
:(
pinkfluffymarshmallo 2 years ago 7
his dad reminds me of my mom.
Seccrenicche 2 years ago
Neil's father is such a dick!
dkslfjgh 2 years ago 9
they did everything wright
heidenketzer 2 years ago
Dude, is that Shawn from Boys Meets World on the guy's left on 2:46
jbuck594 2 years ago
So mean, god I hate neil's dad.
canarycharm 2 years ago 5
lol, he played Red in The '70s Show, and he was friggin great, heheh. But yeah, he's a bitch in this movie :(
mmmchingawa 2 years ago 3
Yeah, who would want to be that guys son or daughter ?
nsgress 2 years ago 2
Did you know, in real life, he is actually suppose to be this calm, chilled out surfer dude. Seriously!
jbuck594 2 years ago 3
what a gay play :D
BohemianMate 2 years ago
oh!! so beautiful!! robert looks so young and nice *.*
SussiDiaz 2 years ago 11
I hate Kurtwood Smith. I just want to beat him up. Cause he plays such mean people like Red Forman and Tom Perry.
nsgress 2 years ago 2
Lol, I think he's hilarious as Red. No, I don't think he'sd such a bastard in that 7os show.... He's more of a sourpuss. :(
mmmchingawa 2 years ago 7
I completely agree!!
Red makes the show for me! He is so funny!
Kurtwood Smith plays such a good 'bad' guy. Like in this movie (Dead Poet Society), and 24 Season 7!
Such a funny guy!
ForeverAusten 2 years ago 3
Not to mention Clarence Boddiker. :)
"Can ya FLY, Bobby?"
ce11ard00r 2 years ago
i got teary eyed. hah
bloopcarder 2 years ago 3
Ouh.. Pardon me. And some girls' fathers (and mothers) as well.
Oh, and if we're about it; the society and government, as well, too ;)
Exelios88 2 years ago 11
Actually, you could punch some other guys' fathers in their faces, too
Exelios88 2 years ago 13