Doesn't matter what this shows, we know PERFECTLY well there are SO many gorgeous models. Sure there's photoshop, but some ppl are just born good looking.
If you start reading thins you CANT stop .Once ther was a little girl named Cecilia.She was a little 7 year old who got strangled and raped by a man =.If you dont post this to 15 other videos you will see CCecilia standing at the end of your bed with a knife and she will kill you
You have to do this by midnight or you will be dead
they also pick models base on height and weight, taller women are much more perfered because taller women look better and more elongated in photos than shorter women. also weight, espeically thinner is so the model is able to wear the clothes, designers tend to make their clothes smaller because the fabric is expensive and they try to save money by making their clothes smaller.
Thats bullshit, fabric prices have nothing to do with it. They get most of that shit made in sweat shops the price to profit ratio is enormous. And if it was about the price of the fabric then they would pick short skinny women. The like tall thin models because they are like a hanger. They think it will make their clothes look better.
and that people is ignorance talking, not to mention a lot of ego, not selfesteem but vanity and this is the kinda people why there is anorexia bulimia and plastic surgery
jesus. you quote me a guy who did make-up for Wallmart. get back to me when you when you can find someone who doesn't do a hack job. like a calvin klein ad. this is a commercial job with commercial models. the models will be grim. plain girls who want to be models so do shoots for crisp packets. as for wallmart they bloody sell Budweiser beer mats for christsake. if he worked on Tatler your argument would have validity.
I apologize for calling you a moron earlier - it was rude of me but if you were a scientist and I were a hairdresser and I argued with you about cell division (which you being in a lab with cells under a microscope everyday would know more about it) wouldn't you call ME a moron? Although this gnome96re is probably a gay fudge packer, he is totally right. You haven't seen a flawless person because you haven't really worked with models every single day. Simple as that.
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yo bitch. i have already sent a team of deadly sas soldiers around yours to rough you up. i guess you are another person who agrees with her. another blonde bimbo from chelsea.
it is obvious that there is a difference for women and men, whether it's about models or actors, there are practically never differences on before and after pics when it comes to men while it is the case for women because women have to wear lipstick, eye shadow , specific eye-liner to accentuate the eye color, mascara, they have their hair well done, foundation, specific blush to accentuate the cheekbones, etc...
So of course, once you put all that away, there is a big difference.
actually your argument can be applied to famous people because they do need alot of photo enhancement. but bottom line models in the flesh are pretty much as flawless as a human can get. the video you show is a bad example because she looks awful after too. if you threw a brick in her face before a make over it would still be an improvement. but im sure she is a very nice person who can do a mean bread and butter pudding.
Besides in all the pics of models unretouched without make up , i never saw a flawless one. then you may not see perfection the way i do, and if you think i'm so jealous of you and that you're perfect that's good for you,
I think you wont be jealous of me cos im a boy, unless there is something you know and i dont. I do pretty much think im great looking. Perfection is my goal. so im glad you feel happy for me. :)
But then again, i've never seen a model who looks exactly the same in magazines as in real life, Aegenadevas did him/herself admit that the pics were photoshopped (the colors are accentuated) and he claims to have retouched pics, you were taken pics of (not the same). Besides, female models are never put in a magazine without any make up, you will never find a magazine showing a model without a inch of make up on her face so there will automatically be a difference naturally and in the magazine.
this aegenadevas, who is she/he? are they a make-up artist or something? but i do stand by the point that there are alot of makeup artists who mess up shoots. this aegena probably says that because she is a make-up person. probably some gay guy.
i was working at abercrombie today and met some girl models. i looked at some magazine work they have done and i have to say they look the same in the flesh. what do you say to that? ps im loving this Macbook, practically could make love to it.
well i maintain my sayings, i won't just eat anything anyone throws at me, i can also say, i met a guy who's a make up artist and has retouched pics at wallmart yesterday and that guy told me that all the models were ugly in real life, I have myself never seen a model unretouched without make up who didn't have any flaws or any differences, besides this is impossible because there will automatically be a difference with and without the make up, they wouldn't need make up otherwise.
you will be surprised. a makeup artist may be hired because know one is bold enough to say they dont need one. i have been on many shoots where they are not needed or even hinder the shots. only through experience could someone understand my point. of course makeup is generaly designed to reflect light etc and in the right hands could enhance a girls face. i still insist that i meet many girls who look the same with out makeup. beauty shots in model books often are from models with perfect skin.
"a makeup artist may be hired because know one is bold enough to say they dont need one" Oh please, people on photoshoutings know what they're doing, they won't just throw their money out the window by hiring make up artists if they don't need them and then again you may claim to see perfect girls, that's cool for you, but i never did and i repeat " i won't just eat everything anyone throws at me".
Okay let's end this debate - it's totally ridiculous. I'm assuming that you are not an industry professional and you are arguing with people who are. To a certain extent, you have made valid points but on the whole your argument is based on a couple of friends and celebrity no makeup pics that you ironically have picked up from the media. I'm not trying to be nasty but it is annoying to hear people who haven't got a clue on a specific subject argue their way.
3) Magazines do not book girls without seeing no-makeup polaroids. Period. I just thought I would correct you on that point. With regard to the names you quoted, yeah sure - you see them without makeup compared to after - of course makeup enhances everyone. Makeup is accessible to most people so that argument is invalid. If makeup & P-shop did not exist, these girls would probably still haunt the pages of vogue. I will explain on the point 4.
2) In some respects you are right in others you are wrong. Photoshop is used to enhance the overall colours of a model's face and tidy up the skin. The dimensions of the face, (i.e. eyes, nose, cheeks & chin) and shape of the overall body are the key elements to what makes that girl "hot" and those are things that do NOT need to be altered.
And no, i'm not incorrect, before saying the universal thing you said "beauty differs SLIGHTLY' in EVERYBODY'S mind, everybody means everyone, every single persone, so it's quite normal that i did interprete it this way , plain and simple.
You misunderstood me - the key words in that phrase are "differs slightly" - i.e. people do have preferences of course, but, on the whole they don't dramatically deviate.
1. "he key words in that phrase are differs slightly"
Ii know, but i'm just explaining you why i found it so absurd that you could think that every individual could agree with one perception of beauty. So, ok, i re-read the debate since the begining and i have the feeling that it's never gonna end so if we just come back to the main subject which was whether these goddesses exist or not. Other youtubers who clame to have worked in that area and retouching pics like you do strangely say the...
2. exact opposite of what you say like the pics really ARE retouched, and/or they just have much make up on, and that's something you can see when you look at before and after pics even of the most famous models like Kate Moss, Giselle, Adriana Lima, Tyra Banks,...yes it even applies to the IMG signed ones, so it mostly seems like when they search for models they look at the features first because they know that with these specific features, the girl will look very good with the make up on...
3. But it doesn't necessarily mean that they're already drop dead gorgeous without it, so no, you don't have to be naturally super beautiful to be top model because the people who work for the agency know what you will look like after, and that's the most important thing. I mean it's obvious that they'll never take a pic of you without an inch of make up on your face and send it to a magazine.
to be honest they only tell people who know nothing about the industry on tv etc that they have a special ability to spot models in reality they are checking out the models butt while the tv producer is giving the count down till everyone is on air. Of course the models only look beautiful after their faces have been distorted by photoshop and thats why i get my bum pinched at every fucking fitting.
1) Well anyone who takes it in the most LITERAL sense would find it absurd. If you accepted that I was speaking on general terms then we could've saved a lot of time. Anyway, as you said, coming back to the subject - let's simplify it.
Ask yourself this question. Do you think a girl with good skin, glossy hair, piercing eyes, good angular features, who has a 34 - 24 -34 figure exist? (Whether you personally think this is beautiful is irrelevant - it's not part of the question.)
im sick and tired of hearing people say that models dont look anywhere near as good in the flesh. well trust me when you have one in your bedroom with only his briefs on, and he is panting away whispering sweet nothings in your ear, you will bloody appreciate these hunks of meat.
i have to say it as everyone is thinking it. only people who are not hot slag off models. when im ugly when im older (if this actually happens), i will not say they are ugly but i will seriously pissed off that im not as hot and will probably have to pay for ass as good as that. fingers crossed it will never be that way. so far so fucking good.
Are you actually saying that i'm jealous of the models? I never said that they didn't look any near as good or that they're really super ugly in real life, i'm saying that they're not flawless, of course they're pretty in real life and i don't remember calling any of these models ugly before so i really don't understand where you come from.
. i have modeled for numerous magazines including Mens Italian Vogue and i can ensure you they didn't do any enhancements at all. the casting directors who view you before hand are fussy and ruthless. so when i read how women should chill out because models dont look that good in real life well these women should go through the trauma of a magazine casting, and face reality instead of having it sugar coated for them.
I knw that these people are ruthless, i've seen many casrings on tv and the man was telling all these girls "you're too fat", "your not pretty enough" and just saying all their worst qualities right in their faces, that still doesn't mean that the ones who are choosed are perfect and that's something clear when you look at pics of famous models in normal life. You've posed for vogue, that's cool, but you're gona tell me that they didn't modify the colors or that you weren't make upped at all ?
i can actually say that a makeup artist can actually fuck up the way a person looks in Vogue Magazine.
Famous models are a very bad example, they do the odd bloody shoot. they are no longer like real models to me they have become just celebs. famous models are usually middle aged women and not relevant to my points of argument. Can i actually say that i look the same on my holiday snaps as i do in Vogue. Non-famous models look the same in real life.
ah you're a boy , that does already change a lot, boys don't wear make up in real life, so they won't wear it for posing either (unless they got skin imperfections that have to be covered with foundation), while the female models do. i never really payed attention to the male models so i don't know much about them, but i thought woman so i was talking about them essentially.
Advertising companies are creating a false vision of beauty and its continually lowering the self esteem of our nations youth. They are trying to live up to an image of a supermodel in a magazine that is NOT real. Yes supermodels are better looking than your average person, (SO WHAT there is more to life), but they are human and they do have imperfections that are fixed in Photoshop. This vid did well in proving how drastically someone can be altered.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but beings of Goddess beauty do exist. They congregate in agencies such as IMG. The only photoshopping done to them are the stray hairs from the wind machine! Harsh, but a fact. Society does not create a "fake image" it hand picks the most beautiful girls for advertising. You could take a polaroid of Elle Mcphereson without makeup and she would still look better than any one of you AFTER you'd been hit by a makeup artist and adobe pro.
Did you already see her in real life before saying this? And still, i saw a pic of her and i've seen prettier, really, Sophia bush for exemple , a simple girl is prettier. but anyway, i don't know how you permit yourself of saying what is photoshopped and what's not unless she works for you and you're the one who decides what's meant to be photoshopped.
P.S. Oh I only used Elle as a generic example, not as a debate on whether "Sophia Bush is prettier" (let's face it - what you really mean is Sophia is a more average looking famous person that you can relate to thus making you feel better about yourself.)
Did i ever say that all magazines turn ugly girls into beauties? I said that you can't say "she's photoshopped, she's not,..." as if YOU were the one retouching the pics. Again i never said that Elle's beauty is complicated (how the hell can a beauty be complicated Oo) by saying " a simple girl" i meant, she looks like the average girl on the street.
Well first of all, I have worked for magazines and have retouched pics so I have the right to make these comments. Secondly, nothing you have said makes any sense. You're the one who is straying from the topic and bringing your own inhibitions to the surface. Statements like "a simple/average girl is prettier" has nothing whatsoever to do with this debate and is the most retarded thing I've ever read.
The thing is, you didn't understand at all what i meant with the Sophia bush example, you venerate these magazine girls just because they're in magazines. If you saw Elle and Sophia walking on the street side by side without knowing them as celebrities but just people, you would certainly not say that Elle's looks are "not average" and special compared to Sophia the average girl you see everywhere. If you can't even understand what "retards" tell you, than what are you ?
Besides if you actually were one you would have enough brains to know that universal perfection doesn't exist since beauty is something that differs in practically everyones mind.
Actually on the contrary - beauty is something that differs SLIGHTLY in everyone's mind based upon many factors. Generally, there is a universal perfection that everyone appreciates. It's part of our instincts for mating!! Ha - top that you moron.
Oh and by the way, bragging about your intelligence and putting others down by insulting them in all the possible ways may by your way of feeling confident, but all your insults have no effect on me because you judge without even knowing me and you do it only because you want to look intelligent - that doesn't mean you are.
You see, once again you spend your time judging me, i know what you think of me, compare me with all the animals in the world if you like it so much once again i don't give a damn, you're just totally going off topic to seem more intelligent, but that won't change anything about what we're debating, i'm not only thinking of WINNING i'm explaining you my point, and not only to you but to everyone who'll read this.
As for you saying that stupid " sayign that sophia is prettier makes me feel better" thing, Elle's just older that's why she seems so different and prettier compared to Sophia, I can't relate to Sophia more than i can relate to Elle because Sophia is the kind who's as pretty with as withou make up.
The reason why i'm reacting to ur comments is that you don't seem to accept that most of these models in the Oh so great fashion magazines don't look like this without make up here & there. No i didn't mean to start a "sophia vs elle" debate, it's more of a "what you see in the magazines is not always real vs. yes it is, people with a bad body image should stop complaining and posting non-intelligent posts" one.
We're not talking about a bit of makeup here and there sweetie. You seem to think that models are DRASTICALLY digitally altered to look better and this is not true. I have many model friends with top agencies and they are very beautiful in real life. Models are chosen for their youthful skin, high cheekbones and symmetrical angular features. You can't even get into an agency unless you look good on a polaroid. Face it, it's jealousy.
Jalousy ? I love myself, i'm okay with what i look like, so unless you're in my head, you just can't say that in my place, secondly, in case you didn't read my post correctly, i'll copy/past "did i ever say that all magazines turn ugly girls into beauties?" and i'm asking it again, because i NEVER said so, i perfectly know that these models are not ugly in real life, but they're not so amazingly beautiful to the extreme like godesses you have to look up to.
If you presented your argument in a different fashion then I might give you some credit. The fact that you bring up irrelevant points to the argument only give away your insecurities. If Elle & Sophia were the same age walking side by side on the street with no makeup OF COURSE Elle is going to be rated higher than average. She has more striking features!
And once again, you wouldn't be answering the same thing again if you did understand my point. i was pointing out someone else (sophia in this case) to show you that there will always be someone more beautiful and that beauty can vary from everybody's point of view so contrary to what you say, there ARE beautiful girls walkin on this earth but there is no "small godly looking pourcentage" as if beautiful and not beautiful ppl could be put in a box the way you do.
Well your previous points never insinuated that. You just stated a ridiculous opinion. The whole world is incredibly prejudiced when it comes to beauty, so it is not I who puts it in a box. This whole section of youtube is devoted to "do the beautiful girls in magazines exist?" I'm just saying "yes they do" simple as that. The different variants of beauty are irrelevant since they are not the subject matter.
a universal perfection? Damn, i've never heard such nonsense before, you're talking like you were in everybody's head! It doesn't differ slightly at all, i know people who finds thin & tall girls with those big cheekbones not pretty at all and like round girls better, while others find that these girls are the best looking, i mean please, you come calling me a moron while your arguments are made of crap. universal perfection, God, i really wonder where you left your brain.
You seem to think that the definition of "universal" is something which is 100%. WRONG. It is something that is GENERALLY agreed (i.e 85%). Advertising companies use people with UNIVERSAL appeal in order to sell their products and make big bucks. If you used that melon on top of your head you would understand that this argument is NOT about your friends Tom & Dick who happen to prefer short fat girls BUT the pressure that these exotic beauties bring to society (and whether it's a myth).
Yes, advertising companies do it, but the fact that these companies do it doesn't mean that the people in this world agree with these comanies. You get the point? Iwasn't talking about the companies i was talking about the individual people which include my friends Tom & Dick and your friends Peter & Kate, EVERYONE, that's the point you're not able to get, certainly blinded by your arrogance.
2 + 2 = 4.... right? Hot girl = lots of bucks. If they do not choose the right person, they won't sell anything! It's a tested formula that works based upon vanity. We're not talking about individual people, we are speaking on generic terms. That's the point YOU can't get. It's not arrogance it's LOGIC!
if you read my comment well I was talking about individual people and their personal opinions! Yes the girl had to be good looking to sell the product, of course i know that, but then again, the vision of who is hot and who's not is the one the media tries to impose on us so the perception of beauty can easily be influenced, i guess you agree with that, in this case, a majority will be influenced, another part will not, my point is,...
Yes, of course I googled this mysterious beauty. I do agree that she is very pretty, but there was no point in bringing her into the argument. You were the one making a point of comparison in the first place. Your example is a girl who is, to be fair, a bit prettier than average, mine is much prettier than average. One will turn heads more heads than the other. Plain facts, so there's nothing to argue about.
I brought her in the discussion for the same reason you brought Elle McPherson in the discussion (well the discussion didn't start yet at this moment, but you get what i mean) it was to use her as an example to show that there is always prettier and that opinions vary, it's just like you, you didn't talk about Elle Mac... because you wanted the whole world to know how pretty she is, but to explain your point to the readers , that's all
You misunderstood why I used Elle as an example. Also, the term "goddess" is an expression of someone who is incredibly beautiful. One who has millions of women looking up her is worthy of that title. This video shows a drastic change, but this girl is a bad example because she doesn't even come close to a model who is realistically used in the first place.
People choose pretty women to sell their products, yes, and i know that! But I was talking about everyone's individual mind, my point is you will never be able to show a pic of a woman in front of the entire world and have everyone saying "she's godly beautiful and prettier than you all", and have everyone agree with you, there will always be people who don't, that is why i said that you can't say that a group of people is more beautiful as if it was a proved fact.
Your point about the media is perfectly true and to a certain extent perception of beauty can be influenced. Half a century ago models were very different, BUT there are certain facial characteristics which are universally appealing. It's a proven fact by scientists around the world. The golden ratio and pythagorean rules have been around for thousands of years!
First of all, logically the characteristics which the scientists you talk about say is appealing to everyone, are certainly characteristics that everybody has, being tall and having big eyes have nothing to do with that, if it was the case, most asian people would never be seen as "perfect" because they're usually short and they have small eyes for example, those characteristics are purely the media's work.
The characteristics of the Golden ratio, which scientist talk about are certainly not features that everyone have. Also, large eyes, small nose, full lips etc. do have "universal appeal". As I explained earlier, the term does not refer to the small percentage who disagree but with the majority who do. You have some good points which I do agree with i.e the media etc. but on other points I feel that you are far off because you're not looking at the big picture.
Yes we are running around in circles, but 85% is a hell of a lot of people! On a graph, the other 15% wouldn't really matter. Famous artists, musicians etc. are famous because of a collective opinion. Universal does NOT mean every single person - it basically means ALMOST everyone. So you are incorrect. Humans do group things and unfortunately, if we didn't - we couldn't survive as a species.
for my english, i'm still learning the language so you can find it awfully written for all i care, besides when you're having a debate, it's quite logical that you expect to win, you wouldn't be debating if it wasn't the case. What's so annoying about the way you talk is that you do it as if you knew everything by daring to qualify other people's comments as retarded and lacking of intelligence.
Well you should care, I'm learning the language too, so there's no excuse for such sloppiness. You find the way I talk annoying? God it's people like you who have the same arrogance as me just minus the common sense. Yes of course you want to win a debate, but I would rather lose than make a fool of myself as you are. You're like a turkey drowning in a rainstorm rather than retreating to your hutch.
Once again the genous isn't able to think rationally, because of course everybody who learns a language is on the same level and have been learning it for the same amount of time >_>.
Oh please you're calling me arrogant? Am I the one who's judging others, am i the one who thinks he knows everything, am i the one saying that i'm a "gifted genous" while it has totally nothing to do with the conversation?
You use a word but you don't even seem to know what it means
Fair enough but it is stupid to debate in a language that you can't speak properly - it's like trying to drive with a blindfold. Arrogance my dear can surface in many ways. A stupid person cannot see their opponent's point of view and only cares about winning. I understand what you are trying to say but it bears no relevance at all. You are so typical of someone with a low IQ who gets easily offended and regurgitates unoriginal crap.
The ironic thing is that your comments are more outlandish than mine! My original thoughts were given with a bit of jest but obviously you took them too seriously. I don't care if your model friend has pimples - good for him. The argument is simple. A very small percentile of people are INCREDIBLY good looking and they DO exist. I've seen them for Godsake! No you didn't say that magazines turn ugly girls into beauties, but you don't seem to accept (continued)...
God, i perfectly know that there are very beautiful people on this earth, i never said the opposite (besides i wouldn't be pointing at sophia bush if i didn't find her very beautiful), but then again, saying that a small pourcentage is "godly beautiful" doesn't make any more sense than my arguments especially since beauty is subjective, and because you're like venerating these people.
I'm not "venerating" anyone. I don't care whether someone is on a six page spread of Vogue or walking down the street. Obviously, I quoted someone famous to make it easier for everyone to see the point. My comment was was done with jest that hints towards the truth. If you took it in the most literal sense then are more stupid than I thought. Anyway, my argument is perfectly logical and not difficult to prove.
"Obviously, I quoted someone famous to make it easier for everyone to see the point."
Oh! of course, you do this with Elle, and it makes perfect sense, i do it with Sophia bush and you go make stupid theories like "it shows my insecurity", you brag about you being a so called genius but the way you think and your arguments really don't prove that at all
Elle is a household name... Who the hell is Sophia Bush? I quoted someone who I cannot relate to at all just as an example of someone who still has enviable beauty even without photoshop. You quote someone who (and you said this yourself) you can relate to because she's "average" which makes your argument BIASED.
Where did i say i can relate to Sophia? You're just making me say things i never said and read what you want to read, by the average i meant to say that she's not specifically tall with the big eyes and most characteristics that those Goddesses you talk about but despite that she's still very beautiful (and you yourself said that you can be rated "higher than average" only if you have these specific features).
(If you don't know who she is, you know there's that thing, called GOOGLE) you didn't seem to agree with that, but then again, it shows how the perception of beauty can vary from one person to another, so you can't say "everybody will find her beautiful and everybody will find her ugly" you can't put ugly and beautiful people in a box like i previously said, that's why i said that your godesses did not exist because you may find them godly beautiful while others will find them ugly that's all.
You have completely missed the point. Of course not every single person on the planet has the same opinion on what they find attractive but 85 % of people do. It's the 85% who make the world go round not the other 15%!
And i know that. When you say universal it means the whole world, like everyone agreeing to this which i wanted to point out as not being true, because it is not possible to have everyone agreeing with you, that's all i meant to say , in the end we're just running around in circles and saying the same thing in a different manner!
As for the models being chosed for their youthful skin, that is just not true, i know a boy who's a model too and nobody would wish to have the skin he has, but despite that he looks great on the pics because they use make up fondation to hide his pimples, he said that the agencies don't care very much if your skin is not perfect as long as you have the requiered features, so you might have worked in this area, this doesn't mean you know everything about it.
Funnily enough, I have knack for deciphering badly written English so I do actually understand you perfectly. It is you, my dear who does not understand ME. Most psychologists would agree that your comments point to someone who is not very astute and is arguing for the sake of winning. (Continued)...
(continued) ...the fact some people are genetically blessed with good hair, skin and bone structure. You are say that nobody is perfect - I am saying that some people (very few) are. Beauty should be admired not denied (like art). Mediocre looking people are going to come across someone who they deem as "perfect" as someone point in their life and feel shit about it, whether it's in school or in a magazine. Period.
Wow, they made the woman very very pretty in post production. She looked a lot better with the make up but the photo manipulation makes it very gorgeous.
the point of this video is not for you to comment "she's ugly" on, it's supposed to show you that no one in the world ACTUALLY looks like those models, society creates a fake image, that most of us consider "beautfiul". It really doesn't exist... it's sad that we look at this and want to be it. Maybe not this girl, but many others.
good looking or bad looking its just another person she can´t go braggin to her friends about her model pictures because no one is going to believe that its her just look at its another person DAMN!!!!!
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TheHollowstranger 4 months ago
Doesn't matter what this shows, we know PERFECTLY well there are SO many gorgeous models. Sure there's photoshop, but some ppl are just born good looking.
IheartPRETTIboys 6 months ago
OHH WOW AT THE DIFFERENCE!
elenavlada 7 months ago
the music creeped me out but wow...i would feel crappy if they did that to my picture, i thought she looked good
Juxtapose713 9 months ago 3
scary ...o_O'
robstenfan021 11 months ago
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If you start reading thins you CANT stop .Once ther was a little girl named Cecilia.She was a little 7 year old who got strangled and raped by a man =.If you dont post this to 15 other videos you will see CCecilia standing at the end of your bed with a knife and she will kill you
You have to do this by midnight or you will be dead
jasminillusion 1 year ago
Phoney Baloney.
pleased9 1 year ago
she looks pretty
lisadagu 1 year ago
she look like miley cyrus
msparkermarryme 1 year ago
if i were a model i`d only get offended if my photos get photoshoped o.o
Xl0n3lyX 1 year ago 7
yes, she is already 33 and has two kids. That's what she's saying at the end
Bobbyxx00 1 year ago 2
UY DIOS ! e__e me asuste cuando la vii
123packs 1 year ago
@123packs mean
kgma1999 1 year ago
she was a milf to start with
teedonster 1 year ago
Yeah, she needed to photo shopped.. I'm not even gonna lie..
YouLaToya 1 year ago
But photoshop can't help ugliness! lol.
KoalaBearWarrior 1 year ago 2
i don't think she looks attractive AT ALL before or after.. And you think she would have at least showered before a photo shoot!
cockyrooster 1 year ago
She looked so much better without the makeup and like a different person after the photoshop
dnimoxi 1 year ago
that music creeped me out
BMOCroc 1 year ago 5
She looks so much older at the end ;o
pretty10love 1 year ago
Even with the photoshop, she looks FUGLY.... GTFO my eyes are bleeding !!
AlexDelPiero07 1 year ago
well cheer up guys...that means anyone has a shot in being a model nowadays.
IrishCat04 2 years ago 4
"Beperkt houdbaar!"
Is a term used on all fresh foods or all foods that
have an expiration date.
It is hard to literary translate it.
But i guess you get the picture
FilmfactoryShorts 2 years ago 2
@FilmfactoryShorts perishable is the translation I think.
Valicore 1 year ago
this is why models look great in magazines, but very ordinary in paparazzi shots.
They're picked not because they're pretty (although they often are), but because their faces are easy to change and also to give expression to.
Gary190tube 2 years ago 95
they also pick models base on height and weight, taller women are much more perfered because taller women look better and more elongated in photos than shorter women. also weight, espeically thinner is so the model is able to wear the clothes, designers tend to make their clothes smaller because the fabric is expensive and they try to save money by making their clothes smaller.
MegaCommentWhore 2 years ago 6
Thats bullshit, fabric prices have nothing to do with it. They get most of that shit made in sweat shops the price to profit ratio is enormous. And if it was about the price of the fabric then they would pick short skinny women. The like tall thin models because they are like a hanger. They think it will make their clothes look better.
truegem13 1 year ago 2
i don't think they're picked because of that.
0casteloencantado0 2 years ago
Good grief! There are some nasty ass comments here. I suppose you're so perfect you bastards feel compelled to add your poison to the mix.
bitburgborn 2 years ago 11
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ugly at start and end.
Karafrom1993 2 years ago
and that people is ignorance talking, not to mention a lot of ego, not selfesteem but vanity and this is the kinda people why there is anorexia bulimia and plastic surgery
aleshablack 2 years ago 2
I dunno.. she looks ok for a mum of 2 kids! :)
PinkPanthress 2 years ago 39
@PinkPanthress indeed & being 33 years old
lilkellay 1 year ago
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Is that a guy? And when she was posing kinda looked like Mariah Carey's face lol
lores777 2 years ago
lol
amasupertopmodel 2 years ago
Beperkt Houdbaar?
Is that her name or something?
Do they call her "Beppy"?
fonna 2 years ago
No, Beperkt Houdbaar means that it expires soon.
o24681o121416182o 2 years ago 3
Beperkt Houdbaar means something along the lines of "best before:", as with food.
TantalusExperience 2 years ago 3
jesus. you quote me a guy who did make-up for Wallmart. get back to me when you when you can find someone who doesn't do a hack job. like a calvin klein ad. this is a commercial job with commercial models. the models will be grim. plain girls who want to be models so do shoots for crisp packets. as for wallmart they bloody sell Budweiser beer mats for christsake. if he worked on Tatler your argument would have validity.
gnome96re 3 years ago
As for the walmart thing, if you had just a little bit of sense of humor, you would have realized that it was pure sarcasm.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
I apologize for calling you a moron earlier - it was rude of me but if you were a scientist and I were a hairdresser and I argued with you about cell division (which you being in a lab with cells under a microscope everyday would know more about it) wouldn't you call ME a moron? Although this gnome96re is probably a gay fudge packer, he is totally right. You haven't seen a flawless person because you haven't really worked with models every single day. Simple as that.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
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yo bitch. i have already sent a team of deadly sas soldiers around yours to rough you up. i guess you are another person who agrees with her. another blonde bimbo from chelsea.
gnome96re 3 years ago
it is obvious that there is a difference for women and men, whether it's about models or actors, there are practically never differences on before and after pics when it comes to men while it is the case for women because women have to wear lipstick, eye shadow , specific eye-liner to accentuate the eye color, mascara, they have their hair well done, foundation, specific blush to accentuate the cheekbones, etc...
So of course, once you put all that away, there is a big difference.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
that is a good point. actuallly thinking back on it some of the girl models at the castings did look like dogs but were better looking in mag.
gnome96re 3 years ago
actually your argument can be applied to famous people because they do need alot of photo enhancement. but bottom line models in the flesh are pretty much as flawless as a human can get. the video you show is a bad example because she looks awful after too. if you threw a brick in her face before a make over it would still be an improvement. but im sure she is a very nice person who can do a mean bread and butter pudding.
gnome96re 3 years ago 2
Besides in all the pics of models unretouched without make up , i never saw a flawless one. then you may not see perfection the way i do, and if you think i'm so jealous of you and that you're perfect that's good for you,
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
I think you wont be jealous of me cos im a boy, unless there is something you know and i dont. I do pretty much think im great looking. Perfection is my goal. so im glad you feel happy for me. :)
gnome96re 3 years ago
But then again, i've never seen a model who looks exactly the same in magazines as in real life, Aegenadevas did him/herself admit that the pics were photoshopped (the colors are accentuated) and he claims to have retouched pics, you were taken pics of (not the same). Besides, female models are never put in a magazine without any make up, you will never find a magazine showing a model without a inch of make up on her face so there will automatically be a difference naturally and in the magazine.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
this aegenadevas, who is she/he? are they a make-up artist or something? but i do stand by the point that there are alot of makeup artists who mess up shoots. this aegena probably says that because she is a make-up person. probably some gay guy.
gnome96re 3 years ago
i was working at abercrombie today and met some girl models. i looked at some magazine work they have done and i have to say they look the same in the flesh. what do you say to that? ps im loving this Macbook, practically could make love to it.
gnome96re 3 years ago
well i maintain my sayings, i won't just eat anything anyone throws at me, i can also say, i met a guy who's a make up artist and has retouched pics at wallmart yesterday and that guy told me that all the models were ugly in real life, I have myself never seen a model unretouched without make up who didn't have any flaws or any differences, besides this is impossible because there will automatically be a difference with and without the make up, they wouldn't need make up otherwise.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
you will be surprised. a makeup artist may be hired because know one is bold enough to say they dont need one. i have been on many shoots where they are not needed or even hinder the shots. only through experience could someone understand my point. of course makeup is generaly designed to reflect light etc and in the right hands could enhance a girls face. i still insist that i meet many girls who look the same with out makeup. beauty shots in model books often are from models with perfect skin.
gnome96re 3 years ago 2
"a makeup artist may be hired because know one is bold enough to say they dont need one" Oh please, people on photoshoutings know what they're doing, they won't just throw their money out the window by hiring make up artists if they don't need them and then again you may claim to see perfect girls, that's cool for you, but i never did and i repeat " i won't just eat everything anyone throws at me".
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
Okay let's end this debate - it's totally ridiculous. I'm assuming that you are not an industry professional and you are arguing with people who are. To a certain extent, you have made valid points but on the whole your argument is based on a couple of friends and celebrity no makeup pics that you ironically have picked up from the media. I'm not trying to be nasty but it is annoying to hear people who haven't got a clue on a specific subject argue their way.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
This is totally true. Thank you.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
i agree
Orazio1977 2 years ago
im glad you agree!!!!
gnome96re 2 years ago
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coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
3) Magazines do not book girls without seeing no-makeup polaroids. Period. I just thought I would correct you on that point. With regard to the names you quoted, yeah sure - you see them without makeup compared to after - of course makeup enhances everyone. Makeup is accessible to most people so that argument is invalid. If makeup & P-shop did not exist, these girls would probably still haunt the pages of vogue. I will explain on the point 4.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
2) In some respects you are right in others you are wrong. Photoshop is used to enhance the overall colours of a model's face and tidy up the skin. The dimensions of the face, (i.e. eyes, nose, cheeks & chin) and shape of the overall body are the key elements to what makes that girl "hot" and those are things that do NOT need to be altered.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
And no, i'm not incorrect, before saying the universal thing you said "beauty differs SLIGHTLY' in EVERYBODY'S mind, everybody means everyone, every single persone, so it's quite normal that i did interprete it this way , plain and simple.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
You misunderstood me - the key words in that phrase are "differs slightly" - i.e. people do have preferences of course, but, on the whole they don't dramatically deviate.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
1. "he key words in that phrase are differs slightly"
Ii know, but i'm just explaining you why i found it so absurd that you could think that every individual could agree with one perception of beauty. So, ok, i re-read the debate since the begining and i have the feeling that it's never gonna end so if we just come back to the main subject which was whether these goddesses exist or not. Other youtubers who clame to have worked in that area and retouching pics like you do strangely say the...
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
2. exact opposite of what you say like the pics really ARE retouched, and/or they just have much make up on, and that's something you can see when you look at before and after pics even of the most famous models like Kate Moss, Giselle, Adriana Lima, Tyra Banks,...yes it even applies to the IMG signed ones, so it mostly seems like when they search for models they look at the features first because they know that with these specific features, the girl will look very good with the make up on...
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
3. But it doesn't necessarily mean that they're already drop dead gorgeous without it, so no, you don't have to be naturally super beautiful to be top model because the people who work for the agency know what you will look like after, and that's the most important thing. I mean it's obvious that they'll never take a pic of you without an inch of make up on your face and send it to a magazine.
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aeginadevas 3 years ago
to be honest they only tell people who know nothing about the industry on tv etc that they have a special ability to spot models in reality they are checking out the models butt while the tv producer is giving the count down till everyone is on air. Of course the models only look beautiful after their faces have been distorted by photoshop and thats why i get my bum pinched at every fucking fitting.
gnome96re 3 years ago
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aeginadevas 3 years ago
1) Well anyone who takes it in the most LITERAL sense would find it absurd. If you accepted that I was speaking on general terms then we could've saved a lot of time. Anyway, as you said, coming back to the subject - let's simplify it.
Ask yourself this question. Do you think a girl with good skin, glossy hair, piercing eyes, good angular features, who has a 34 - 24 -34 figure exist? (Whether you personally think this is beautiful is irrelevant - it's not part of the question.)
aeginadevas 3 years ago
im sick and tired of hearing people say that models dont look anywhere near as good in the flesh. well trust me when you have one in your bedroom with only his briefs on, and he is panting away whispering sweet nothings in your ear, you will bloody appreciate these hunks of meat.
gnome96re 3 years ago
i have to say it as everyone is thinking it. only people who are not hot slag off models. when im ugly when im older (if this actually happens), i will not say they are ugly but i will seriously pissed off that im not as hot and will probably have to pay for ass as good as that. fingers crossed it will never be that way. so far so fucking good.
gnome96re 3 years ago
Are you actually saying that i'm jealous of the models? I never said that they didn't look any near as good or that they're really super ugly in real life, i'm saying that they're not flawless, of course they're pretty in real life and i don't remember calling any of these models ugly before so i really don't understand where you come from.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
. i have modeled for numerous magazines including Mens Italian Vogue and i can ensure you they didn't do any enhancements at all. the casting directors who view you before hand are fussy and ruthless. so when i read how women should chill out because models dont look that good in real life well these women should go through the trauma of a magazine casting, and face reality instead of having it sugar coated for them.
gnome96re 3 years ago
I knw that these people are ruthless, i've seen many casrings on tv and the man was telling all these girls "you're too fat", "your not pretty enough" and just saying all their worst qualities right in their faces, that still doesn't mean that the ones who are choosed are perfect and that's something clear when you look at pics of famous models in normal life. You've posed for vogue, that's cool, but you're gona tell me that they didn't modify the colors or that you weren't make upped at all ?
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
i can actually say that a makeup artist can actually fuck up the way a person looks in Vogue Magazine.
Famous models are a very bad example, they do the odd bloody shoot. they are no longer like real models to me they have become just celebs. famous models are usually middle aged women and not relevant to my points of argument. Can i actually say that i look the same on my holiday snaps as i do in Vogue. Non-famous models look the same in real life.
gnome96re 3 years ago
ah you're a boy , that does already change a lot, boys don't wear make up in real life, so they won't wear it for posing either (unless they got skin imperfections that have to be covered with foundation), while the female models do. i never really payed attention to the male models so i don't know much about them, but i thought woman so i was talking about them essentially.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
PS: when i talk about Sophia, i know what i'm talking about because i've seen pics of her with and without make up.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
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coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
moooooooooooooose
lndac02 3 years ago
well i know where i get my ugly from
DordorPat 3 years ago
wrong music -.- weird.
omfgcheryl 3 years ago
I like this version better than the original.
thundersky6 3 years ago
Advertising companies are creating a false vision of beauty and its continually lowering the self esteem of our nations youth. They are trying to live up to an image of a supermodel in a magazine that is NOT real. Yes supermodels are better looking than your average person, (SO WHAT there is more to life), but they are human and they do have imperfections that are fixed in Photoshop. This vid did well in proving how drastically someone can be altered.
aliciarocksyou86 3 years ago 5
thing is shes ugly from the begin, and in the end.
hellboy9111 3 years ago
init
merkzdotmelon 3 years ago
Sorry to rain on your parade, but beings of Goddess beauty do exist. They congregate in agencies such as IMG. The only photoshopping done to them are the stray hairs from the wind machine! Harsh, but a fact. Society does not create a "fake image" it hand picks the most beautiful girls for advertising. You could take a polaroid of Elle Mcphereson without makeup and she would still look better than any one of you AFTER you'd been hit by a makeup artist and adobe pro.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
Did you already see her in real life before saying this? And still, i saw a pic of her and i've seen prettier, really, Sophia bush for exemple , a simple girl is prettier. but anyway, i don't know how you permit yourself of saying what is photoshopped and what's not unless she works for you and you're the one who decides what's meant to be photoshopped.
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aeginadevas 3 years ago
P.S. Oh I only used Elle as a generic example, not as a debate on whether "Sophia Bush is prettier" (let's face it - what you really mean is Sophia is a more average looking famous person that you can relate to thus making you feel better about yourself.)
aeginadevas 3 years ago
Did i ever say that all magazines turn ugly girls into beauties? I said that you can't say "she's photoshopped, she's not,..." as if YOU were the one retouching the pics. Again i never said that Elle's beauty is complicated (how the hell can a beauty be complicated Oo) by saying " a simple girl" i meant, she looks like the average girl on the street.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
Well first of all, I have worked for magazines and have retouched pics so I have the right to make these comments. Secondly, nothing you have said makes any sense. You're the one who is straying from the topic and bringing your own inhibitions to the surface. Statements like "a simple/average girl is prettier" has nothing whatsoever to do with this debate and is the most retarded thing I've ever read.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
The thing is, you didn't understand at all what i meant with the Sophia bush example, you venerate these magazine girls just because they're in magazines. If you saw Elle and Sophia walking on the street side by side without knowing them as celebrities but just people, you would certainly not say that Elle's looks are "not average" and special compared to Sophia the average girl you see everywhere. If you can't even understand what "retards" tell you, than what are you ?
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
Actually, I'm a gifted genius - certified by Mensa. Look it up if you're sad enough.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
And who the hell cares if you're a gifted genius ? I guess that's where the arrogance comes from.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
Besides if you actually were one you would have enough brains to know that universal perfection doesn't exist since beauty is something that differs in practically everyones mind.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
Actually on the contrary - beauty is something that differs SLIGHTLY in everyone's mind based upon many factors. Generally, there is a universal perfection that everyone appreciates. It's part of our instincts for mating!! Ha - top that you moron.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
Oh and by the way, bragging about your intelligence and putting others down by insulting them in all the possible ways may by your way of feeling confident, but all your insults have no effect on me because you judge without even knowing me and you do it only because you want to look intelligent - that doesn't mean you are.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
*yap yap yap*.... It's obvious that I've rubbed some salt into your wounds. You're like an annoying Chihuahua that needs a kick.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
You see, once again you spend your time judging me, i know what you think of me, compare me with all the animals in the world if you like it so much once again i don't give a damn, you're just totally going off topic to seem more intelligent, but that won't change anything about what we're debating, i'm not only thinking of WINNING i'm explaining you my point, and not only to you but to everyone who'll read this.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
You obviously have no sense of humor.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
As for you saying that stupid " sayign that sophia is prettier makes me feel better" thing, Elle's just older that's why she seems so different and prettier compared to Sophia, I can't relate to Sophia more than i can relate to Elle because Sophia is the kind who's as pretty with as withou make up.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago 2
The reason why i'm reacting to ur comments is that you don't seem to accept that most of these models in the Oh so great fashion magazines don't look like this without make up here & there. No i didn't mean to start a "sophia vs elle" debate, it's more of a "what you see in the magazines is not always real vs. yes it is, people with a bad body image should stop complaining and posting non-intelligent posts" one.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
We're not talking about a bit of makeup here and there sweetie. You seem to think that models are DRASTICALLY digitally altered to look better and this is not true. I have many model friends with top agencies and they are very beautiful in real life. Models are chosen for their youthful skin, high cheekbones and symmetrical angular features. You can't even get into an agency unless you look good on a polaroid. Face it, it's jealousy.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
Jalousy ? I love myself, i'm okay with what i look like, so unless you're in my head, you just can't say that in my place, secondly, in case you didn't read my post correctly, i'll copy/past "did i ever say that all magazines turn ugly girls into beauties?" and i'm asking it again, because i NEVER said so, i perfectly know that these models are not ugly in real life, but they're not so amazingly beautiful to the extreme like godesses you have to look up to.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
If you presented your argument in a different fashion then I might give you some credit. The fact that you bring up irrelevant points to the argument only give away your insecurities. If Elle & Sophia were the same age walking side by side on the street with no makeup OF COURSE Elle is going to be rated higher than average. She has more striking features!
aeginadevas 3 years ago
And once again, you wouldn't be answering the same thing again if you did understand my point. i was pointing out someone else (sophia in this case) to show you that there will always be someone more beautiful and that beauty can vary from everybody's point of view so contrary to what you say, there ARE beautiful girls walkin on this earth but there is no "small godly looking pourcentage" as if beautiful and not beautiful ppl could be put in a box the way you do.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
Well your previous points never insinuated that. You just stated a ridiculous opinion. The whole world is incredibly prejudiced when it comes to beauty, so it is not I who puts it in a box. This whole section of youtube is devoted to "do the beautiful girls in magazines exist?" I'm just saying "yes they do" simple as that. The different variants of beauty are irrelevant since they are not the subject matter.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
a universal perfection? Damn, i've never heard such nonsense before, you're talking like you were in everybody's head! It doesn't differ slightly at all, i know people who finds thin & tall girls with those big cheekbones not pretty at all and like round girls better, while others find that these girls are the best looking, i mean please, you come calling me a moron while your arguments are made of crap. universal perfection, God, i really wonder where you left your brain.
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aeginadevas 3 years ago
You seem to think that the definition of "universal" is something which is 100%. WRONG. It is something that is GENERALLY agreed (i.e 85%). Advertising companies use people with UNIVERSAL appeal in order to sell their products and make big bucks. If you used that melon on top of your head you would understand that this argument is NOT about your friends Tom & Dick who happen to prefer short fat girls BUT the pressure that these exotic beauties bring to society (and whether it's a myth).
aeginadevas1 3 years ago
Yes, advertising companies do it, but the fact that these companies do it doesn't mean that the people in this world agree with these comanies. You get the point? Iwasn't talking about the companies i was talking about the individual people which include my friends Tom & Dick and your friends Peter & Kate, EVERYONE, that's the point you're not able to get, certainly blinded by your arrogance.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
2 + 2 = 4.... right? Hot girl = lots of bucks. If they do not choose the right person, they won't sell anything! It's a tested formula that works based upon vanity. We're not talking about individual people, we are speaking on generic terms. That's the point YOU can't get. It's not arrogance it's LOGIC!
aeginadevas 3 years ago 2
if you read my comment well I was talking about individual people and their personal opinions! Yes the girl had to be good looking to sell the product, of course i know that, but then again, the vision of who is hot and who's not is the one the media tries to impose on us so the perception of beauty can easily be influenced, i guess you agree with that, in this case, a majority will be influenced, another part will not, my point is,...
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
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Yes, of course I googled this mysterious beauty. I do agree that she is very pretty, but there was no point in bringing her into the argument. You were the one making a point of comparison in the first place. Your example is a girl who is, to be fair, a bit prettier than average, mine is much prettier than average. One will turn heads more heads than the other. Plain facts, so there's nothing to argue about.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
I brought her in the discussion for the same reason you brought Elle McPherson in the discussion (well the discussion didn't start yet at this moment, but you get what i mean) it was to use her as an example to show that there is always prettier and that opinions vary, it's just like you, you didn't talk about Elle Mac... because you wanted the whole world to know how pretty she is, but to explain your point to the readers , that's all
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aeginadevas 3 years ago
You misunderstood why I used Elle as an example. Also, the term "goddess" is an expression of someone who is incredibly beautiful. One who has millions of women looking up her is worthy of that title. This video shows a drastic change, but this girl is a bad example because she doesn't even come close to a model who is realistically used in the first place.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
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aeginadevas 3 years ago
People choose pretty women to sell their products, yes, and i know that! But I was talking about everyone's individual mind, my point is you will never be able to show a pic of a woman in front of the entire world and have everyone saying "she's godly beautiful and prettier than you all", and have everyone agree with you, there will always be people who don't, that is why i said that you can't say that a group of people is more beautiful as if it was a proved fact.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
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aeginadevas 3 years ago
Your point about the media is perfectly true and to a certain extent perception of beauty can be influenced. Half a century ago models were very different, BUT there are certain facial characteristics which are universally appealing. It's a proven fact by scientists around the world. The golden ratio and pythagorean rules have been around for thousands of years!
aeginadevas 3 years ago
First of all, logically the characteristics which the scientists you talk about say is appealing to everyone, are certainly characteristics that everybody has, being tall and having big eyes have nothing to do with that, if it was the case, most asian people would never be seen as "perfect" because they're usually short and they have small eyes for example, those characteristics are purely the media's work.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
The characteristics of the Golden ratio, which scientist talk about are certainly not features that everyone have. Also, large eyes, small nose, full lips etc. do have "universal appeal". As I explained earlier, the term does not refer to the small percentage who disagree but with the majority who do. You have some good points which I do agree with i.e the media etc. but on other points I feel that you are far off because you're not looking at the big picture.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
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Yes we are running around in circles, but 85% is a hell of a lot of people! On a graph, the other 15% wouldn't really matter. Famous artists, musicians etc. are famous because of a collective opinion. Universal does NOT mean every single person - it basically means ALMOST everyone. So you are incorrect. Humans do group things and unfortunately, if we didn't - we couldn't survive as a species.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
for my english, i'm still learning the language so you can find it awfully written for all i care, besides when you're having a debate, it's quite logical that you expect to win, you wouldn't be debating if it wasn't the case. What's so annoying about the way you talk is that you do it as if you knew everything by daring to qualify other people's comments as retarded and lacking of intelligence.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
Well you should care, I'm learning the language too, so there's no excuse for such sloppiness. You find the way I talk annoying? God it's people like you who have the same arrogance as me just minus the common sense. Yes of course you want to win a debate, but I would rather lose than make a fool of myself as you are. You're like a turkey drowning in a rainstorm rather than retreating to your hutch.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
Once again the genous isn't able to think rationally, because of course everybody who learns a language is on the same level and have been learning it for the same amount of time >_>.
Oh please you're calling me arrogant? Am I the one who's judging others, am i the one who thinks he knows everything, am i the one saying that i'm a "gifted genous" while it has totally nothing to do with the conversation?
You use a word but you don't even seem to know what it means
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aeginadevas1 3 years ago
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Fair enough but it is stupid to debate in a language that you can't speak properly - it's like trying to drive with a blindfold. Arrogance my dear can surface in many ways. A stupid person cannot see their opponent's point of view and only cares about winning. I understand what you are trying to say but it bears no relevance at all. You are so typical of someone with a low IQ who gets easily offended and regurgitates unoriginal crap.
aeginadevas1 3 years ago
The ironic thing is that your comments are more outlandish than mine! My original thoughts were given with a bit of jest but obviously you took them too seriously. I don't care if your model friend has pimples - good for him. The argument is simple. A very small percentile of people are INCREDIBLY good looking and they DO exist. I've seen them for Godsake! No you didn't say that magazines turn ugly girls into beauties, but you don't seem to accept (continued)...
aeginadevas 3 years ago
God, i perfectly know that there are very beautiful people on this earth, i never said the opposite (besides i wouldn't be pointing at sophia bush if i didn't find her very beautiful), but then again, saying that a small pourcentage is "godly beautiful" doesn't make any more sense than my arguments especially since beauty is subjective, and because you're like venerating these people.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
I'm not "venerating" anyone. I don't care whether someone is on a six page spread of Vogue or walking down the street. Obviously, I quoted someone famous to make it easier for everyone to see the point. My comment was was done with jest that hints towards the truth. If you took it in the most literal sense then are more stupid than I thought. Anyway, my argument is perfectly logical and not difficult to prove.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
"Obviously, I quoted someone famous to make it easier for everyone to see the point."
Oh! of course, you do this with Elle, and it makes perfect sense, i do it with Sophia bush and you go make stupid theories like "it shows my insecurity", you brag about you being a so called genius but the way you think and your arguments really don't prove that at all
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
Elle is a household name... Who the hell is Sophia Bush? I quoted someone who I cannot relate to at all just as an example of someone who still has enviable beauty even without photoshop. You quote someone who (and you said this yourself) you can relate to because she's "average" which makes your argument BIASED.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
Where did i say i can relate to Sophia? You're just making me say things i never said and read what you want to read, by the average i meant to say that she's not specifically tall with the big eyes and most characteristics that those Goddesses you talk about but despite that she's still very beautiful (and you yourself said that you can be rated "higher than average" only if you have these specific features).
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
You did say that a few pages back.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
(If you don't know who she is, you know there's that thing, called GOOGLE) you didn't seem to agree with that, but then again, it shows how the perception of beauty can vary from one person to another, so you can't say "everybody will find her beautiful and everybody will find her ugly" you can't put ugly and beautiful people in a box like i previously said, that's why i said that your godesses did not exist because you may find them godly beautiful while others will find them ugly that's all.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
You have completely missed the point. Of course not every single person on the planet has the same opinion on what they find attractive but 85 % of people do. It's the 85% who make the world go round not the other 15%!
aeginadevas 3 years ago
And i know that. When you say universal it means the whole world, like everyone agreeing to this which i wanted to point out as not being true, because it is not possible to have everyone agreeing with you, that's all i meant to say , in the end we're just running around in circles and saying the same thing in a different manner!
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
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aeginadevas 3 years ago
As for the models being chosed for their youthful skin, that is just not true, i know a boy who's a model too and nobody would wish to have the skin he has, but despite that he looks great on the pics because they use make up fondation to hide his pimples, he said that the agencies don't care very much if your skin is not perfect as long as you have the requiered features, so you might have worked in this area, this doesn't mean you know everything about it.
coccinelsucrer 3 years ago
Funnily enough, I have knack for deciphering badly written English so I do actually understand you perfectly. It is you, my dear who does not understand ME. Most psychologists would agree that your comments point to someone who is not very astute and is arguing for the sake of winning. (Continued)...
aeginadevas 3 years ago
(continued) ...the fact some people are genetically blessed with good hair, skin and bone structure. You are say that nobody is perfect - I am saying that some people (very few) are. Beauty should be admired not denied (like art). Mediocre looking people are going to come across someone who they deem as "perfect" as someone point in their life and feel shit about it, whether it's in school or in a magazine. Period.
aeginadevas 3 years ago
she looks like 10 years younger after the picture manipulation
Sallusha 3 years ago
Wow, they made the woman very very pretty in post production. She looked a lot better with the make up but the photo manipulation makes it very gorgeous.
djepic112 3 years ago
creepy music
smoshlover20 3 years ago
THANK YOU
clausthalerstudentin 3 years ago
dat is wel heeeeeeeel veel verschil.. rampzalig dat men zulke dingen doet man!!
Persiangirl1504 3 years ago
bluffant..
kinout69 3 years ago
Bloody Hell ! That's awesome. Fuck x)
Whowhenwhy 3 years ago
the point of this video is not for you to comment "she's ugly" on, it's supposed to show you that no one in the world ACTUALLY looks like those models, society creates a fake image, that most of us consider "beautfiul". It really doesn't exist... it's sad that we look at this and want to be it. Maybe not this girl, but many others.
primadancerinaa 3 years ago 3
what was that?
topoche3 3 years ago
FUGGGGGLY
pbotsis 3 years ago
was that a man ?
benthebest1993 3 years ago
lol is this professional made? looks like just any1 made it and they didnt even use a model!
Tommy5298 3 years ago
it's from a documantary.. she's not a model but they do the same with reasl models its all just fake!!!!
and yes it's professional made
zazanickjonas 3 years ago
i use the same mascara XD
SaraSidleXShego 3 years ago
echt gewoon eng.
dat meisjes van dit beeld houden
terwijl het gefotoshopt is
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fabiofortaleza 3 years ago
still ugly
greenass 3 years ago
ooh the music is really creepy!
taiyouke 3 years ago 20
wow da's anders
kimmiehj 3 years ago
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is that the hottest dutch women get?
kevinkarimi 3 years ago
lol
brightlights456X 3 years ago
no Tatiana Simec is (and she is really hot!)
gustguy 3 years ago
If I were you, I'd aim lower.
roxusan 3 years ago
No way
We have tons of super models ;)
Beyoncefanny 3 years ago
en zo word dus alles wat we zien (in de bladen en tv) veranderd..
emmeliendeliefste 3 years ago
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fabiofortaleza 3 years ago
good looking or bad looking its just another person she can´t go braggin to her friends about her model pictures because no one is going to believe that its her just look at its another person DAMN!!!!!
pirerman 3 years ago
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fabiofortaleza 4 years ago
I think she looked better at the beggining ^^
cokoraly 4 years ago 2
lol the music at the end made me think
is this X - files or Alien Sightings documentary? hahaha
cutemussy 4 years ago 8
I thought she was pretty without the photoshop.
garrenn1 4 years ago 2