Soundboard Basics 5 Inputs

[braden90]

Question 1: Lets say you are micing a guitar cab (or drums for that matter) and want to be able to run multiple channels into one outboard thing (say a compressor or Preamp) is that possible to send multiple channels to 1 outboard item? if so, how?

[N0JoC0]

@braden90 Yes - that can be accomplished by routing the signals (i.e all drum mics) to a sub-group, and then place the compressor/EQ/whatever... on that sub group as an insert

[IndepthMusic1]

@braden90 This is done by creating whats called a "subgroup" or some call it "stem mixing" basically, this requires you to have an analog mixer with 1 or more stereo subgroups next to your your master fader. each channel has optional buttons to select L-R (main outputs) 1-2 (subgroup) 3-4 (subgroup). assign each "drum" to say 1-2. Thats puts all the drums on subgroup 1-2, then use the sub group insert to put your favorite compressor on that whole group. check out more vids @ my channel

[stormytx12]

how much is a Soundboard

[Tonyp68]

Tnx for the nice and proper explaination how to route the insert, for it isn't something Soundcraft putted in the manual. It only says that the ring is the return, but not that you'd use a stereo > 2x mono 1/4" jack cable, and that the other side goes into the output of e.g. the comp. (normally one uses also insert returns next to sends.)

I already thought something like that, but you confirmed, so now i can go for the right cables.

Grtz T. (Yep, thats an Soundcraft MH3/32 on my profile pic)

[countryboy1604]

I have a MACKIE SR332-4 console and a PreSonus HP4 headphone amp, could you tell me how to properly connect it, thanks for your time

[countryboy1604]

I have a MACKIE SR332-4 console and a PreSonus HP4 headphone amp, could you tell me how to properly connect it, thanks

[85bmw528eguy]

Good info but I have a question...why would you write the numbers on the back? why not use a label maker or label stickers on the back. That looks tacky...just saying from another sound guy.

[motojeff]

@85bmw528eguy Yeah,,, I did not write the numbers on the back. It was another soundguy who used my mixer. I tried and tried to get those stupid numbers off. He used some kind of paint pen. Carb cleaner, lacquer thinner, and rubbing compound - nothing worked .... Note to other people who own mixers. Make sure the guy who uses your equipment knows he can't modify it. Even if he's renting it from you for 6 months.

[shrivibhu]

how to take different outputs from a mixer to a soundcard to make multi track recording.

[plsr80]

lol was that a bible on the left. you better pray that dog doesn't do that again! Love your videos man keep em coming.

[drummerb0y117]

Does anybody know if drum microphones put out the same as regular mics?

[motojeff]

@drummerb0y117" Put out the same?" that is a very open question.. Same of what? signal? range? max dB? what exactly are you asking?

[drummerb0y117]

@motojeff

Im not to good with the lingo: But basically do they use the same type of output chords.

[motojeff]

@drummerb0y117 Cords? The mic cords? yes they all use XLR mic style cables.

[drummerb0y117]

@motojeff

Yes that was the question

Thank you for the help sorry for the confusion.

[lastpatriot4America]

So with insert cables you can loop effects ? but wouldnt that cause major feed back and overdrive ? Help !!!

[maciekkk123]

great videos..thx!

[rolandiron]

Do u have videos for sell if so let me know like to get some

[motojeff]

@rolandiron I am going to start working on a good DVD, since I am getting enough response to make it worth while...

[rolandiron]

Do u have a video out there somewhere that i can buy

[motojeff]

@rolandiron I prefer a good guitar mic, you dont get the right sound if you go direct. Unless you are wanting a clean sound.

part 2- I would suggest using inserts on the sub groups for a compressor, to get an overall compression,

[fjn0bu1]

Hey Jeff, great information. I have two questions, (1) would it be best to have a direct out from a guitar amp to go into the line direct in or mic input? (2) what is the best way to install a single compressor for use on 4 vocal channels (e.g., channels 1,2,3, and 4) on the board?

[Meladactyle]

Thanks for explaining Phantom for the first time to me. I always wondered why it was there.

[movie14editer]

Hey Jeff,

maybe you should cover the differance beetween ballanced and unballanced signals. I allready understand it, burt I think it would be good to tell people on that.

[motojeff]

@movie14editer I thought I did, but it turns out that was for a music magazine that I wrote for, I will get more vids up soon

[unarchi]

Thank you sir, i learn a lot !

[motojeff]

@unarchi :)

[RileyBurgess]

oh, and Allen & Heath GL series all the way!

[bradliebler]

We used to have a Soundcraft in our theater but we upgraded to a Midas Verona 320. Midas boards are BY FAR the best boards you can buy, hands down.

[motojeff]

Well yeah, Midas, Studer, Digitech, are some of the top of the line mixers out there. All starting at 20 to $30,000.... In that price range the Allen and Heath, Yamahas, and Soundcrafts are just as good... maybe better in some areas. I assume you took out an OLD worn out mixer?

[motojeff]

@bradliebler They are nice,,,

[bradliebler]

@motojeff If im looking for the best possible board i can get for like $500-$600, what should get?

[motojeff]

@bradliebler Ha Ha Ha,,, Seriously? You need to give more input for that answer, how many channels, what is the use, how many monitor outs, and is it going to be portable or installed....

[Meladactyle]

@RileyBurgess Allen & Heath GL2400. (:

[lawdawg139]

Nice Job sir! I find it amazing how simple things can be when the instructor teaches from the heart. Your appreciation and knowledge of sound and recording techniques is apparent in the ease with which you can convey it to people watching your videos. Thanks!

[motojeff]

@lawdawg139 thx

[SNIPER7631]

ur a good teacher

[motojeff]

@SNIPER7631 thx

[motojeff]

I have a question, I have had a LOT of emails asking me to make a quality DVD covering all of this information. I am considering this but before I do (and spend the money to make it)- can you give a thumbs up to this comment if you honestly think you would purchase a DVD covering everything from mixers, to equipment to speaker and amp set up? Thanks, Jeff

[moehammet]

@motojeff yeah,i would buy it bro...

[07sproate]

@motojeff jeff ive been interning at a theatre for 6 months and have been waiting for the sound guy to teach me what youve taught me in 40 minutes. a dvd with additional things would help as well. very happy about your videos and i truly appreciate it.

[111nuthead]

@motojeff  Where is that DVD ? We r waiting for it ! Thanks

[prusch666]

For someone that is starting music adventure it is real treasure to get this knowledge. Once more big thanks for this tutorial video. Great job!

[Bilger89]

thank you! i learned a lot!

[GCCBytor]

I have "main ins" on the back of my Behringer 2442. What it this used for?

If i put a "compressor" in there would that compress everything?

[motojeff]

yes,,, the main inserts can be used for eq's and compressors over the whole signal

[GCCBytor]

Would that be a better way to hook up the EQ etc? I have them hooked up in series ... Out of board, into EQ, out of EQ, into amp ... etc.

[RileyBurgess]

EQ always goes after console and before amps. Effects and compressors should go into the "Inserts" if your console is already equipped with them.

[guitarez]

Great video...please use a tripod and focus thank you.

[deathleafmusic]

use Aux sends and use the compressor on the aux channel..

correct me plz if im wrong

[RileyBurgess]

compressors should always go into "Inserts" no matter if it's a group insert or an individual channel insert. You have the most control doing it this way. The Aux's can work if you don't have inserts/insert cable$ (they are expensive)

[chicanoOaxaqueno]

Would I hook up my bass cable to the compressor or too the mixer whenever I have the compressor hooked up?

[chicanoOaxaqueno]

Would I insert my instrument too the compressor it's self or too the mixer. ..I'm hooking up my bass just too let u know.

[SalesDudeMcBoob]

I have enrolled in Motojeff University.

[pizzaking425]

another good video. I would like to add that phantom power can be on at any time with most mics that do not need it. I do not advise it because its better to be safe than sorry. If anyone out there has a ribbon mic and a cheap board that does not have phantom switches, or only has a master phantom switch, be very careful about not sending phantom power to a ribbon mic. It usually, especially on older mics, will instantly burn the ribbon out. you will see smoke and that will be the end of it

[motojeff]

I did not know that,,, letting the smoke out of the microphones is always a bad thing. I appreciate your feedback on my other videos and will be very careful with ribbon microphones.

[ConchissProductions]

You was extremely helpful and I truly want to thank you for this video I'm a beginner at mixing and you made it allot easier for me. Much appreciation

[davehikah]

nice.

[Stoneplayground]

I want to thank you, Jeff the Sound Guy, for helping the music community in general with your tutorials. It's not common for anybody in these times to spend the time and energy to help others without receiving compensation. I have been a musician for over 30 yrs. and yet just recently found myself in need of running sound myself for monetary reasons. Not fully understanding the ins and outs of the board has made my experiences very nerve racking. Your videos are great. Thank you sir!

[motojeff]

I will have more advanced videos on how to use a mixer when I get the time. Im glad I am able to share some of my experience to help others.

[motojeff]

No problem, I hope this helps you a bit

[thatssorayvenx3]

Thanks for the insert info.