Is he in delusional ? People around the world are protesting against Israeli Action against Paletinians, even jews. Richard Falk a Jewish UN Human Rights representative accuses Israel of War Crimes. He was turned away by Israeli Forces at Tel Aviv Airport and barred from entering Israel. Its ridiculous. What I see is worse than the Apartheid and Nazi Germany put together. It exists since 1948, even longer.
Delusional? thousands of Hamas projectiles and rockets fired at israel and then gaza got what was coming? Muslims expect you fire and then no one fires back sorry its not like that
Precisely ! that claim of thousands of rockets is delusional !
Search a video about rockets from Hamas here. The amount of rockets countinously decreased n literally stopped. The deal was, Gaza stop rocket fire n Israel would open the barrier. So Hamas met their endd of the bargain but not israel. Barriers were never opened.
IDF even kidnapped Hamas officials during this cease fire.
Just look it up yourself.
Today in West Bank, we see the a great increase in Occupiers.
not being in favour on what happened in palestine and lebanon does not make one anti-semite i hope..i was also against however i must stress seeing how muslims are trying to take over europe with immigration and force islam down our throats I Understand them now.
g and hear gadafi speech idiot..he said it publibly..fuk the mediteranean union ..the pope is anti semite and is part of the immigrant invasion and takeover of europe..but the people will not accept this rest assured.
Because American do not know the truth. When Saddam Hussain use chemical weapon against kurd then it is crime in the eye of US. But when Israel use chemical weapon (White Phosphorous) against palatina then it is not a crime in the eyes of US because it will be Anti Semitic according to US constitution. Any thing done by Israel is not supported treat as a Anti Semitic to Jews according to US constitution.
I think that you can't fault israel for a siege when terrorist activity is consistently going on right at their borders and they do lift the blockade to allow food and supplies to get through for hours every day. If Hamas actually cared about their people, they would spend money on education and redevelopment instead of bombs.
If the israelis killed all the palestinians but one...that one would shoot a rocket at israel still...so what's the point israel...violence begets violence...murder beges murder.
im western ..catholic..christian...in our countries attacking a police station is an act of terrorism or gang attack. Israel should be condemned by us ..the west...they are talking of disproportionate attacks...havent they already done this and killed 400 kids...shame on you jews...no wonder there are anti semitic people out there ., you are really a cruel population.!
If a terrorist launches a rocket from a Palestinian school it doesn't then give Israel a right to recklessly bomb that school,
If a terrorist (freedom fighter) runs behind a family it doesn't give an Israeli soldier license to machinegun the entire family to get his target,
All people including Israel have a right to defend themselves, but when common care to protect the innocent is not practiced, it only serves to de-legitimize the offender; this is Israel's current standing in the world!
Islamism is like Hitler's idiology who reap shame at the end of the story. What the fuck? islam will be the world's only religion and everyone will be subject to shariah law where a father can maul his daughter who sinned to death. where women have no freedom like in Christianity who could be a president of a country. FUCK ISLAMISM!
Oh not again, you Jews are always the victim.You been robbing the stock market left and right, You did the same to Germany, and calimed HOLOHAUX bullshit. You Jews are going down.
The true of evil is the HAMAS it's same with our condition in Indoenesia. There is one of islamic organisation with name FPI (Islamic Defender Front) their always killing other people that not have same ideology or religion, destroy church or other public building/facility that their claim as their god enemy. FPI objective is how to make Indoneisa as Islamic Country and govern/order with their rules (syariah).
Are you kidding me?? Israel is unleashing its evil and the world is witnessing the genocide..The world is turning against israel as we see who the true terrorist are!! Israel has no respect, sympathy or mercy on innocent civilian lives and they shoull along with President Bush burn in HELL!!!
There is no 'genocide' you idiot. Stop abusing this term. If the Israelis really intend to kill all palestinians (that would be genocide) they'll all be dead already. 800 or so people killed in nearly tow weeks, only half are civilians. A lot, but nothing compared to what the jordanians did in black september (look it up i cant be bothered to explain it to a child). and take a look at real cases of genocide like holocaust, darfur, rwanda before you speak.
no, they do want to kill all palestinians but theyre smart, ew unfortunately.theyre not gonna go kill every palestinian in 2 seconds because they know that would be bad for their international image. so theyre just doing it slowly. the only problem with their tactic is that palestinians loove to have kids. ha have fun terrorist fuck israelis. <3 youll go down someday israel. mark my words.
yeah whatever, dont want to start an argument with you. Please, go ahead and indulge in your abysmal stupidity and ignorance for the rest of your life.
"at the end of the day, its a war between moderates and extremists". haha and who exactly are the extremists? could it be the ones who are using all the illegal weapons in the world to kill 900 and wound over 4000 in 2 weeks? or maybe its the ones that use homemade rockets and killed 5 in the supposed 8 years? im not sure though.
israel is a terror state. they are evil killers, Muslim blood is too cheap for them.
Israel is taking full advantage of weak Muslims, but they forget, as Israel acquired weapons of mass destruction, a time will come when Hamas will acquire them too. let see if these cowards will have the guts to fight Hamas than?
really!!!!!!!! was Jordan a terror state when they killed over 15,000 Palestinians in the 70's??? wake up war is war .these people chose HAMASSS which is a terrorist organisation to lead Gaza so now they have to pay the price for their own foolishness.Hamass stared this shit and the innocent are suffering
must look a situation without prejudice. Both sides commited unlawful acts and neither side dont want to compromise unless the conditions serves their best interest. This war will be loooonnnngggg. May cease for a while, rechard then explode again in future time, may not be out time but the war by then will be more devastating.
"Zionists in their scriptures will cunningly change the meanings of words from 'land (of promise)' to the 'promised land'. Its these little discrepancies of the truth that we are so ignorant to.
الموت لاسراءيل Death to Israel Mort à Israël Muerte a Israel 以色列去死 Смерть Израилю Morte a Israel イスラエルに死 Morte a Israele इज़राइल की मौत מוות לישראל Tod Israel Dood aan Israël
The current situation proves again that antisemitism is present and dominant in the world. People just cannot accept that there is a moral elite of jewish people, protecting a small country bordered by blood-thirsty islamic jihadists.
There's nothing moral about their history. If they didn't occupy other territories with each war, there'd be less animosity towards Israelis. The leadership of all political parties are throughly corrupt, they occupy land meant for the Palestinian state, they let fundamentalist settlers run rampant in Palestinian territories. Apart from attempting to crush Hamas, there is nothing to support about Israel as a state. It is as failed and unstable as most of its neighbours.
No doubt Isreal has well organized propoganda machine. The terminology they used are often the same...8 yrs of rockets, what would you if...., We left Gaza...Hamas a terrorists...., We want peace...
If only Palestenains would lear a lesson from this and have PR programme they could have isolated Israeli for its crime. They can not win the governe,nets but for sure the public.
I think what is also significant about all this is how easily neo-nazis can become legitimate again in a few decades. The stupid Jews have made it easy for antisemites and terrorists to begin twisting history to ignore all their own failings and focus only on Israel's. It will be easier and easier to justify killing Jews until a Nazi party gets elected again.
Israel using Depleted Uranium shells to kill every one who survives,Hamas has no army,no weapons,no machines,Israel has built a city on every piece of land they drive Gaza people off,those city's r 43 percent occupied but it makes it impossible to get the land back,Israel is using depleted uranium genocide against people in family cars n homes ,targeting UN schools that gave Israel their GPS and r clearly marked UN,bombs from a plane in the school n 2 bombs from tanks in front when kids ran out
Muhammad is documented to sleep with under age girls and performed sexual acts with boys as well.....thats your prophet? OK that explains why islams only solution to their problems is to kill, destroy, blow up, behead.....so on
saudichannel They suffer from water and medicine shortage,gas and electricity cut. So it is just another kind of terrorism.yes but it is more than that,Genocide,one day palestian will be so weak so dumb that will be no more palestianian ,anyone could overtake it one way or another.pitty
Isreal will get terminated.Muslims lost Palestine before, then they regain it as they will regain it again. Did u know about the STUNNING DISCOVERY!! UFO Fleet formed ALLAH MUHAMMAD words! over Mexico!See the video in my favorite
The only way to make sense of Israels senseless war in Gaza is through understanding the historical context. Establishing the state of Israel in May 1948 involved a monumental injustice to the Palestinians. British officials bitterly resented American partisanship on behalf of the infant state. On 2 June 1948, Sir John Troutbeck wrote to the foreign secretary, Ernest Bevin, that the Americans were responsible for the creation of a gangster state headed by "an utterly unscrupulous set of leaders
Pay attention to the video and stop reading the comments. He couldn't even argue against Aljazeera's last point. He has no arguement. The Israeli man just proved to the world that they have no proof of Hamas doing some of the things they broadcast in the media.
Rockets from Hamas, Rockets from Hamas Rockets from Hamas...that have killed about two dozen Israelis as of February, 2008 according to Jewishindy(dot)com. When Hamas kills civilians it is terrorism. When Israel massacres civilians, starves and maims them by the tens of thousands (according to ifamericansknew(dot)org)it is called self-defense.
No rockets from the Palestinian West Bank. How are the Arabs there faring next to Israel's Jewish-only, IDF guarded colonies of rampaging settlers?
What did the Zionists expect when it decided to forcefully transfer millions of Western Europeans who were Jewish to a Muslim dominated region of the world surrounded by Arab countries?
He may have also have run naked through the streets with his hair on fire after bathing in cow dung, but I still think he was correct about his estimation of the Zionists sending Jewish people to a country surrounded by Muslims and Arab culture to be a very bad idea.
"My sympathies are all with the Jews. I have known them intimately in South Africa. Some of them became life-long companions. Through these friends I came to learn much of their age-long persecution. They have been the untouchables of Christianity...
The parallel between their treatment by Christians and the treatment of untouchables by Hindus is very close. Religious sanction has been invoked in both cases for the justification of the inhuman treatment meted out to them. Apart from the friendships, therefore, there is the more common universal reason for my sympathy for the Jews."
Ghandi: "I am not defending the Arab excesses. I wish they had chosen the way of non-violence in resisting what they rightly regarded as an unwarrantable encroachment upon their country. But according to the accepted canons of right and wrong, nothing can be said against the Arab resistance in the face of overwhelming odds."
Zionists use all of the media buzz-words to make their case. Hate, terrorist - they think we're all hypnotized by these words because the media uses them repititiously. Repitition has worked well in the past, but because of the internet, people are noticing that Zionist propaganda is identical to the propaganda that got us into the Iraq war. We're noticing patterns, and the spell is being broken. Stupid Zionists haven't adjusted, they are still trying to overwhelm us with their buzz-words.
Bottomline, both Israelis and Palestinians commit atrocities in this farce of a conflict. It is racist and reprehensibly infantile to push the blame on solely one part, I have not supported Israel in their past offensives, but I actually hope they remove Hamas this time. That's the first step towards ending the offenses commited from the Palestine side, then it's on to the Israel dysfunction, which needs international intervention.
Israel should show some restraint. If they want to fight Hamas' militants, then fight Hamas' militants. They should stop bombing UN schools. And innocent civilians. They are MUCH better at it than Hamas, or anyone else, so I suppose it makes them proud. Killing innocent civilians, that is.
show me one proof that Hamas launch rockets from mosques to Israel.
Israel in these 13 days has destroyed 12 mosques, but the resistance still sends their rockets at the oppressors occupiers. So there is no missiles in mosques.
I have just watched the video, and it does not prove anything. I watch Aljazeera live coverage of the war on Gaza everyday. They use different type of weapons. And I saw different kinds of missiles which falls once and bomb many areas around. Seriously, do you believe this rubbish?
This is their strategy. They want defame Hamas images in Muslims mind. Hamas knows better than to misuse houses of Allah.
It has nothing to do with the Telmud. When Allah say don't fight in my moosques thats it you ought to listen. its outrageous to see muslims violating their own Sharia. stop using Masjids.
dear (bro or sis) they do not use masjids. There is no proof, and they made it clear many times that they do not. Beside, leaders in hamas are not like mujahdeen in other places who have no knowledge in religion. Most of the leaders in hamas have PHD in one branch of Islam sciences. As I mentioned before they know better than misusing mosques of Almighty Allah.
Israel is the biggest terrorist organization in the world.. they're not even fit to be call as "state" but terrorist "organization". stealing people's land, killing people by masses.. and as for the US, they're the biggest funder of the biggest terrorist organization.. funder to Terrorisrael.
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you fucking idiot. Hamas is terrorist organisation, not israel. Hamas targets civilian popultion on purpose, israel tries its best to avoid that. Hamas use their own children to blow other children as well as schools and hospitals as shields. Israel did have significantly less casualties but do you think if hamas has better rockets it would hesitate to use them on innocent civilian?
israel uses guidance missiles instead of carpet bombing the entire city. in such a densly populated area, civilian death is inevitable, especially when hamas hid among civilians. if israel doesnt give a shit the death toll will be much much higher. Israeli soldiers had ethic lessons as part of the training. The one to blame is the gazans, who reject peaceful two state solution again and again,
"Hamas uses Palestinians as human shield." This is just a lame justification Israel use to kill innocent children : (uh hamas are hiding behind the kids!)It is just that your terrorist army is so afraid to engage in man to man battle with hamas freedom fighters. Your soldiers hide inside their tanks even if they see Palestinian children.They even wear pampers so they do not need to go out of their tanks a lot. Hamas do not need to hide. They know they will either win or be maryers.
afraid to engage hamas in "man to man" battle? again, use your head. Do u think the israel army, one of most effective in the world, with state of the art technology and discipline training would be 'afraid' of the hamas? No, dont think so. if israel engage hamas in a conventional war the war would be over in a day.
oh, and i find it absolutely amazing that you would consider terrorist who strap bomb vest on their childrean and send them to blow up other children as honorable warriors. Really, the willingness to sacrifice childrean is clearly a sign of a culture of death. just as hilter had sent the hitler youth to face the red army in a hopeless battle.
Do you remember this child who was born years ago and recognized his country is occupied by Zionists? He saw his parents humiliated, kicked out of their house and depraved from primary humans' needs. This boy witnessed breaking bone strategy used by Zionists on his relatives. He lived surrounded by walls of segregation. He witnessed his mother killed on a check point because she was prevented to go to hospital and give birth to his sister.
a 12 year kid doesnt have the abiliy to make bomb vest on his own. Someone provided him with that. The Hamas. Anyone who has any conscience would not allow, no, encourage the kid to go on a suicided mission, especially when the target are innocent civilians.
There no 12 years old kids into these thing. What matters is that Zionist made suicide bombing. If there is no occupation, there would be no suicide bombing. Actually suicide bombing only signifies Palestinians unbelievable sufferings.
Beside, do not play on the innocent civilians thing any more. Remember the UN school bombing yesterday? remember the 40 innocent ones killed there? go to your terrorist army channel and see how their tools know exactly what it's bombing.
first, israel had already offered to withdraw from gaza and west bank in 1995 and in 2000. gaza was only reoccupied because the epedemic of suicide bombing made it necessary. But lest you forget israel again withdrew in 2005.
Second, this whole mess would not have occured if the palestinians would accept the two state solution way back in 1937.
You believe that shit? The Zionist leaders of that government had believe Israel extend Sea to Sea with Jerusalem. Zionist goals have been on record, that the militant Islamist want to re conquer the whole of Israel is on record too. Why fool yourself?
First, they withdraw to blockade it. Gaza is under siege for months now. They suffer from water and medicine shortage,gas and electricity cut. So it is just another kind of terrorism.
Second,fake Palestinians leaders in West Bank seems pretty much agree with this,still Israel attack cites in West Bank from time to time.
Suicide bombing is not the root of the problem,the blockade is.
Hamas are not the root of the problem,the occupation is.
Suicide bombing+Hamas are just results of the occupation.
Israel withdrew from Gaza and continue to occupy it - it controls its land, air and sea to effectively turn it into one big prison.
Israel did not offer to withdraw from the West Bank in 1995. This is a blatant lie.
Two-state solution? You mean the one where the majority of the Palestinian population got a minority of the land with a large proportion of them living under a Jewish state with no rights? Who would accept such a deal?
Paulo, you're a clown. Israel withdrew from Gaza and rocket and mortar attacks TRIPLED. THEN all the measures that "turn Gaza into one big prison" were taken, in response. Stop trying to twist history with your chicken/egg bullshit.
Idiot, I do not deny that Israel withdrew from Gaza but they continue to occupy it! This is an undeniable fact!
Idiot before Hamas took control of Gaza the siege on this strip of land continued, so don't sell me your "its because of the rockets" bullshit story. The siege timeline does not correlate with the rocket attacks. FACT!
Twist history? How am I twisting history? I want you to refute what I just wrote with actual fact!
the land the jews obtained was purchased legitimately from absntee landlord. palestine was a largely underpopulated area with constantly shifting, mixed popultion who had no concept of nationalism before at least 1940s.
This is an outright lie and you know it. In 1947 over 90% of the land was owned by Palestinians! This is an absolute fact supported by independent organisations like the UN.
They had no concept of nationalism! You stupid fool, since the times of the Ottoman Empire there was local resistance against the Turks to form a local government in Palestine to look after their own people. So don't feed me your bullshit, you have no idea!
more fucktarded 'comments. UN, like the peel commision, had rejected both extreme claims from both sidesi.e. one side own all land. it, as in 1937 and as in today, believed 2 state solution is the only viable option for peace. the land allocated to the jews were areas the jew were majority and already establish their own gov, press, schools, other infrastructure and in all sense a seperate state of its own.
Idiot Jews were a minority in this land yet they were given a majority of the land in this settlement, so don't tell me the division was a fair one.
A huge proportion of Palestinians, both Christian and Muslim, would also have found themselves in a Jewish state as second-class citizens. So don't lie to me and tell me that the areas were already controlled by Jews, you know this is not true.
I notice that you never directly challenge my arguments, because you know they're right.
if one is to illustrate the division of land into a map, it would at first seems like the jews got more land. But that is to ignore the fact that the land the jews got included the Negev fucking desert, uninhabitable, almost useless. If you exclude that, more usable land was given to the Arab. not to mention the jewish state was divided thus vulnerable, but they accepted it nonetheless unlike the arabs.
Idiot Israel constantly argues that it has made the Negev "desert bloom" so don't feed me your shit about regarding this land as irrelevant.
Idiot they never accepted the Jewish state on the 1947 borders, they accepted it as the basis for the expansion of the Jewish state. Ben Gurion publicly acknowledged this many times, you have no idea. The 1947 boundaries would provide for the further expansion of a Jewish state, it would not be its final borders. This is fact, you cannot refute this!
terrorist attack on israel did not start after the hamas took control. it started before that and had continued for decades. it is not a reactive last resort, it is a first resort to destroy israelis right to exist.
Idiot if we're going back in time you will realise that the first attacks of terror were by Jewish settlers against the indigenous Palestinian population. Does the Irgun mean anything to you? They later became Likud.
well if you go by date then the irgun operated between 1931-1948. the hebron massacre that led to 133 jews dead and 339 injured occured in 1928. So what does this mean? It means your argument fucking suck!
Idiot you failed to mention the Haganah they came long before the tragic 1928 massacre, they were certainly not the defense force they claimed to be and killed many innocent Arab Palestinians.
1.Check what the word 'óccupy'means. Do u see israeli soldiers among the streets of gaza
2.Oslo interim agreement is a significant effort on israel's part to bring peace. she withdrew all troops from most populated palestinian area hand control over to PA and maintained only a few israeli settements and military buffer zones for security reason.
3.learn some histroy. there is no such things as the 'nation of palestine'populated by palestinians who lived there for centuries.
LOL you stupid idiot, you tell me to check what the word 'occupy' means when you don't even know it yourself. It involves the "control of territory by a foreign army" and Israel controls Gaza's borders (including an international one), air space and sea. Even independent organisations like the UN agree that Israel still occupies Gaza. FACT!
Idiot Israel did not withdraw from Palestinian areas as per the Oslo agreement. FACT!
u fucktard, there is a major difference between occupying enemy territory and imposing economic sanction on it for launching attacks.israel withdrew its army from gaza in 2005, u dont see israel soldiers or gov institution in gaza. the hamas was in control. occupying an enemy territory requires exercising effective control of it. the allies also had econ sanction on japan during wwii, u gonna say america óccupied'japan? idiot
Idiot I will repeat it again, these "economic sanctions" on Gaza were in place the moment Israel dismantled its settlements and before Hamas took power in Gaza. So don't tell me that it came about because of Hamas rockets, they were in place before them.
Idiot the territory of Gaza includes its air and sea space, this is the international definition not mine. Israel controls this so thus occupies the country.
and so you are implying that gaza remained docile, begging for peace, no hostile attack against israel and israelis decide to blockade cos they got nthg better to do. Why do israel blockade gaza but boost the economy of west bank? ask yourself this please.
Idiot dont stray from my argument, the reason for the blockade that has been given my by Israel is the rockets. But the blockade was still in place before the rockets? This was Israel's reason for it.
You would love the Palestinians to beg for peace, instead they are fighting for their self-determination and basic human rights that YOU deny them!
Hague Convention is a founding document of the modern law of armed conflict, and its definition of occupied territory was woven into the 1949 Geneva Conventions. There, the relevant provision provides that "[i]n the case of occupied territory, the application of the present Convention shall cease one year after the general close of military operations," although certain protections for the populations continue "to the extent that such Power exercises the functions of government in such territory
What the fuck is your point? You don't get it? The very architects of the Geneva Conventions also agree Gaza is still under occupation, FACT! The Israeli navy still operates within Palestinian-sovereign waters! FACT!
How about you find me an independent source within the international community that says Israel is not occupying Gaza? So far you are failing to prove your point.
btw, stop using UN continuosly as if it's the owrd of god. UN is formed by countries too. countries each with their own agenda, subject to bias and inaccuracies.
The UN is the standard of international law. You have no problem using the UN to argue for the partition that created Israel in 1948 but as soon as it does anything that you don't like suddenly they are biased and inaccurate.
What then is the definition of occupation, as no definition exists in the Geneva Conventions themselves? We find a definition in the Hague Regulations of 1907.
Article 42 of the Hague Regulations states simply that the territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. This occupation extends only to territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised.
Idiot, if the USA blocked Japan's borders, controlled its air and sea space then yes it is occupying Japan. FUCKFACE THIS IS NOT MY DEFINITION IT IS THE DEFINITION OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY!
Is the whole world wrong except you? You are delusional at best.
I forgot to add, i agree with your definition of occupation but that clearly isnt the case is it? does israel have control over gaza? clearly not considering rockets were still firing from it.
I did not say Israel has control over Gaza but that is OCCUPIES Gaza. You really do need to look up the word 'occupation' in the dictionary, you have really practical shortcomings with this word.
It is an absolute fact that Israel still occupies Gaza, the UN agrees, the USA agrees, the EU agrees, China agrees with this statement.
Really, certainly UN had agreed before that israel occupied gaza, this i admit the israelis admit. but is it anymore?? please stop using outdated information. get updated You can't exclude the most important aspect of territory-physical land- simply because it doesnt fit what you said. The meaning of occupation is interwoven with having governmental control over that terriory i.e. german occupation of france. again u cant ignore that.
Idiot dont take my word for it but check the facts, they are out there. This is not outdated information but current facts, by international law Israel still occupies Gaza.
Occupation is NOT interwoven with "governmental control" but rather control by a foreign country over territory it has no sovereignty over! FACT! This is indisputable! Territory includes air, sea and borders.
Again, this is not my definition or standing but that of the international community!
I'm getting tired of this. limiting the flow of food, fuel and other commodities into Gaza does not mean israel occupied gaza. As early as 1899, the Hague Convention on the Laws and Customs of War on Land stated that "[t]erritory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation applies only to the territory where such authority is established, and in a position to assert itself."
YAWN!, under international law a territory extends to its air, sea and borders. This is not my standard but of the international community. There is a hostile Israeli army and navy operating on Gazan territory, be it sea or air it is irrelevant. This hostile army has absolute authority over trade and the movement of goods and people.
Taking a different tact, Gaza is but a small part of Palestine. If I took over your house but me one room to use you would still be occupying it.
Again, you seem to be completely ignoring the fact israel has no government of any form within gaza itself, where people actually live. laws, law enforcement, and other government apparatus is run by hamas. Cuban was also blockaded by usa, so it's being occupied? the blockade is not a mean to 'occupy' gaza if that's the intention israel would move its troops in, as it did before. Again, u are mixing up timeline. confusing past events with present, applying the past statement into now.
Idiot no Geneva Convention says you need to have a government in the land for it to be occupied! FACT!
Also let us remember that Gaza is part of the Palestinian territories. There are towns in the West Bank that the Palestinian Authority looks after and no one is arguing that these are not under occupation.
You fucking retard! Cuba has absolute authority over its borders, sea and air space! To compare it to Gaza to prove your point only proves how much of a retard you actually are!
u retarded fuck, quit throwing words lke geneva convention as if u actually know wot it says. the forth geneva convention dealt with how occupants of a territory should be treated but if you actually read it it doesnt offer a clear definition of occupation. article 6 does however implies that an occupator needs to have some sort of governmental role i.e. "exercise the function of government in such territories"
You don't get it do you, Israel controls all trade going into Gaza. It "exercises the function of government" as borders, sea space and air space are under its control.
right, so you are saying the only function of a government is trade? What about law making, foreign policy, domestic policy, national defense, education, health care? Those under israeli control too? Stop trying relate occupation with blockade and thus allow pro-terrorist fucks to say the hamas are just 'freedom fighters resising israeli occupation'.
You stupid fool, trade going into Gaza effects food distribution, the health and education sector and the provision of basic aid. LOL, you really are fucking stupid.
As I said before this is the international standard, that Israel is occupying Gaza is a belief held by 98% of the international community.
you retarded fucking fuck. Again, i already explained why blockading a country is not the same as occupying it. Read the newspaper and magazine, times, economists etc... they will tell you that the government in control is hamas, not israel. When usa quarantined cuba in 60s, she also had control of what goes in and out through the power of her navy. Would u call that 'occupation'? maybe u would, but professional historians wont.
Yawn! Quite frankly I do not care what the Jew York Times (oops!) writes, the standard of international law is absolutely irrefutable. Go on! Argue against it via the standard of international law?
Opening boarder w/o control means allowing to ship bigger armaments then comes a bigger war. Beyond the south of Gaza is Egypt. Even Egypt, Saudi, Jordan & PLO do not want Hamas to become stronger to prevent their local militants to follow. Cuba was controled by the US to lessen the threats, merely a matter of time waiting for Cuba to change leaders without firing missiles. Hamas is an islamic militant with tendency to disregard international law unlike the moderate PLO.
Idiot, Hamas is asking for the borders to be re-opened like they once were under EU control. No weapons were smuggled into Gaza through EU-controlled border posts.
You're right, those countries would prefer to see the Palestinian Authority get stronger, but they realise that this war is doing the exact opposite.
Hey retard Paulo, do you have a common sense! Bwahahaha. Rockets were being fired long before Hamas is fu*cking your mother & sisters. Arms and rockets materials were smuggled from the seas into egypt then passing hidden tunnels now being shelled by Israel bombs. Go Israel go! Burn Gaza to hell, kill every freaking hamas. I like to taste their blood. Bwahahaha !!!!
Tell me, what other historical cases is there that the term 'occupation' is used this way? there are certainly many cases of occupation in histroy i.e. german occupation of france in wwi+ii, US occupation of Japan post wwii and many many others.
There are only 2 countries that support the idea that Israel still occupies Gaza, the USA and Israel. Now if there are about 190 countries in the world and only two of them agree with you I think you will actually find my figure to be accurate.
really? back that up, will ya? What did Georgia, South Korea, Philipine and Peru say about the situation in 2008? So they agree that Gaza is still 'occupied'? Please cite your sources.
Retard Paulo, I owned a dozen country and all supports Israel! I'm sick and tired of Hamas and fuc*king your mother & sisters. They smell like Hamas. Pwe !!! Dammn, bombs falling to Gaza again. Bwahahaha !!!!
This illustrates that there is a physical test which establishes the creation of a state of occupation, one in which the physical presence of the occupier limits the ability of the occupied population to make authoritative decisions in its own territory.
A physical test? You're just making this up as you go along, there is no such thing as a "physical test". The proponents of International Law have not drafted such a "physical test".
Again, you're a fucking idiot! Look up the frontiers of a foreign territory, it includes air and sea space you fool!
These are basic facts that you completely ignore when you reply to me.
What a test means is that one can compare the actual situation on the ground with the defintion of occupation as stated in international law to see if they fit. IF you do that to gaza you would realise it doesnt. Stop ur point about border control, the shit u read from some pro palestine website is false.
Let me clarify. Obviously I'm not talking a test like the fucking Gcse. I'm just saying there are a checklist which we can use to check if a place could classifed as 'occupied' or not.
Also, the US voted 40 times against the UN to declare Israel as an Occupation violating the 4th Geneva Convention. The UN believes Israel is an occupation of Palestinian land.
when? does it still believe that? if so, right now, why does it and other world leaders not ask for the stopping of israeli occupation of gaza and west bank? it ask for withdrawl of troop but that's different.
Idiot there is certainly no history of the "nation of Israel" before 1948 either! The era of the nation-state largely emerged in the fourteenth century onwards. So don't tell me your collection of tribes in some fictional holy book is evidence of a "nation". Idiot!
Retard Paulo, Israel is just a name. Jews were there since the biblical time. Before islam there was already Palestinian Jews & Palestinian Arabs dwelling in that area. Ooopppss, I just got a call from your mother & sister again! Fuc*king time dude. Bwahahaha!!!
2. there were muslims, jews, and christians living in the area IN PEACE before the poor little zionist holocaust survivors showed up. so tell me smartie pants, who started the problem?
yeah the west, since they cared so so much about them, shouldve taken them and put em all in like london or texas or something. it was wrong to throw a whole people onto a land where people already lived without even consulting those people.
I keep hearing "the Palestinians could have had their own state ..." from the Israeli side. Dig up a map of the territory offered to them and it will be obvious why they turned it down - you would have, too. They would have been spread out in separate "bubbles" of land w/ Israeli checkpoints in between, and I don't regard it as a coincidence that all the good farmland and water happened to be outside the Palestinian lands proposed by Israel. Bluntly, they refused to be Jewed out of their land.
Shihab, get him, don`t let him get away with his nonesense. Israelis are a bunch of baby-killing, land grabbing, defenceless people terrorizing, deceit utilizing, lying and cowardly robbers.Everything they utter is nothing but lies
israel are terrorists, read the old testament! they've been targeting pregnant women and children for thousands of years. The whole world suffers when the fuken
lying zionist bastards show us EVIDENCE of hamas targeting ur children as u target ours
israel is for now
Palestine Is FOREVER
ygh22222 2 years ago
The fact that the Un accused Hamas of Firing weapons indiscriminately at Israeli civilians.
beanersss 2 years ago
the men is right
israel has the right to defence her self
in any way
100sharif 2 years ago
Is he in delusional ? People around the world are protesting against Israeli Action against Paletinians, even jews. Richard Falk a Jewish UN Human Rights representative accuses Israel of War Crimes. He was turned away by Israeli Forces at Tel Aviv Airport and barred from entering Israel. Its ridiculous. What I see is worse than the Apartheid and Nazi Germany put together. It exists since 1948, even longer.
lieberat 2 years ago
Delusional? thousands of Hamas projectiles and rockets fired at israel and then gaza got what was coming? Muslims expect you fire and then no one fires back sorry its not like that
beanersss 2 years ago
Precisely ! that claim of thousands of rockets is delusional !
Search a video about rockets from Hamas here. The amount of rockets countinously decreased n literally stopped. The deal was, Gaza stop rocket fire n Israel would open the barrier. So Hamas met their endd of the bargain but not israel. Barriers were never opened.
IDF even kidnapped Hamas officials during this cease fire.
Just look it up yourself.
Today in West Bank, we see the a great increase in Occupiers.
lieberat 2 years ago
not being in favour on what happened in palestine and lebanon does not make one anti-semite i hope..i was also against however i must stress seeing how muslims are trying to take over europe with immigration and force islam down our throats I Understand them now.
futuramark 2 years ago
Muslims forcing Islam down our throats.... ahahahahah.
You know any muslims ? Or are you stuck in a Mono-racial n mono-religious bubble ?
There r many muslims in EU cause the previous power like France n UK occupied them.
Fr: Tunisia, Algeria, Senegal, Ghana, Morrocco, etc.
UK: Pakistan, India , (1/3 muslim population), Malaysia.
1/4 of the world pop. r muslims. Its larger then EU pop.
Next you guys r gonna get scared of the Chinese n Indians once they really start broadening their wings.
lieberat 2 years ago
g and hear gadafi speech idiot..he said it publibly..fuk the mediteranean union ..the pope is anti semite and is part of the immigrant invasion and takeover of europe..but the people will not accept this rest assured.
futuramark 2 years ago
I´m no fan of Ghadafi, he´s a nut case. N guess who put him there in the first place.... ! Europeans.
Well, just looking at your use of limited , uneducated vocabulary shows that I´m wasting my time discussing with you.
lieberat 2 years ago
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Because American do not know the truth. When Saddam Hussain use chemical weapon against kurd then it is crime in the eye of US. But when Israel use chemical weapon (White Phosphorous) against palatina then it is not a crime in the eyes of US because it will be Anti Semitic according to US constitution. Any thing done by Israel is not supported treat as a Anti Semitic to Jews according to US constitution.
MonsterIsrael 2 years ago
I think that you can't fault israel for a siege when terrorist activity is consistently going on right at their borders and they do lift the blockade to allow food and supplies to get through for hours every day. If Hamas actually cared about their people, they would spend money on education and redevelopment instead of bombs.
rr1825 3 years ago
If the israelis killed all the palestinians but one...that one would shoot a rocket at israel still...so what's the point israel...violence begets violence...murder beges murder.
futuramark 3 years ago
im western ..catholic..christian...in our countries attacking a police station is an act of terrorism or gang attack. Israel should be condemned by us ..the west...they are talking of disproportionate attacks...havent they already done this and killed 400 kids...shame on you jews...no wonder there are anti semitic people out there ., you are really a cruel population.!
futuramark 3 years ago
Catholic? the pope during ww2 was a prolific nazi study your own crimes first you piece of crap.
beanersss 2 years ago
don't worry they ASSURED TOTAL DESTRUCTION FOR THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY...it's a matter of time...
Ticonio 3 years ago
With 200p nuclear weapons the muslims had better pray israel isnt destroyed if it is then mecca and all of the arab countries will fry
beanersss 2 years ago
Man... you are FULL OF HATE dude !
Looking at your comments, u better look into your heart n find some love before you destroy yourself.
lieberat 2 years ago
If a terrorist launches a rocket from a Palestinian school it doesn't then give Israel a right to recklessly bomb that school,
If a terrorist (freedom fighter) runs behind a family it doesn't give an Israeli soldier license to machinegun the entire family to get his target,
All people including Israel have a right to defend themselves, but when common care to protect the innocent is not practiced, it only serves to de-legitimize the offender; this is Israel's current standing in the world!
uzijohn 3 years ago 4
Islamism is like Hitler's idiology who reap shame at the end of the story. What the fuck? islam will be the world's only religion and everyone will be subject to shariah law where a father can maul his daughter who sinned to death. where women have no freedom like in Christianity who could be a president of a country. FUCK ISLAMISM!
lancego30 3 years ago
it's me or those israeli jews are living in other dimension i mean hello!!! planet earth ! year 2009
AIAZISten 3 years ago
Oh not again, you Jews are always the victim.You been robbing the stock market left and right, You did the same to Germany, and calimed HOLOHAUX bullshit. You Jews are going down.
sjafar48 3 years ago
The true of evil is the HAMAS it's same with our condition in Indoenesia. There is one of islamic organisation with name FPI (Islamic Defender Front) their always killing other people that not have same ideology or religion, destroy church or other public building/facility that their claim as their god enemy. FPI objective is how to make Indoneisa as Islamic Country and govern/order with their rules (syariah).
peacemaker076 3 years ago
Yeah like your Friend Stalin the communist Jew
pwpg0516 3 years ago
Are you kidding me?? Israel is unleashing its evil and the world is witnessing the genocide..The world is turning against israel as we see who the true terrorist are!! Israel has no respect, sympathy or mercy on innocent civilian lives and they shoull along with President Bush burn in HELL!!!
fitzgerald2009 3 years ago
There is no 'genocide' you idiot. Stop abusing this term. If the Israelis really intend to kill all palestinians (that would be genocide) they'll all be dead already. 800 or so people killed in nearly tow weeks, only half are civilians. A lot, but nothing compared to what the jordanians did in black september (look it up i cant be bothered to explain it to a child). and take a look at real cases of genocide like holocaust, darfur, rwanda before you speak.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
no, they do want to kill all palestinians but theyre smart, ew unfortunately.theyre not gonna go kill every palestinian in 2 seconds because they know that would be bad for their international image. so theyre just doing it slowly. the only problem with their tactic is that palestinians loove to have kids. ha have fun terrorist fuck israelis. <3 youll go down someday israel. mark my words.
waterroadtree324 3 years ago
after reading your comment, I called my parents and thanked them for giving me an education.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
good job, im so proud of you ?
waterroadtree324 3 years ago
yeah whatever, dont want to start an argument with you. Please, go ahead and indulge in your abysmal stupidity and ignorance for the rest of your life.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
hahah.. great journalism.. that greedy jew got burned
AbuIsaSalafi2 3 years ago
"at the end of the day, its a war between moderates and extremists". haha and who exactly are the extremists? could it be the ones who are using all the illegal weapons in the world to kill 900 and wound over 4000 in 2 weeks? or maybe its the ones that use homemade rockets and killed 5 in the supposed 8 years? im not sure though.
waterroadtree324 3 years ago
israel is a terror state. they are evil killers, Muslim blood is too cheap for them.
Israel is taking full advantage of weak Muslims, but they forget, as Israel acquired weapons of mass destruction, a time will come when Hamas will acquire them too. let see if these cowards will have the guts to fight Hamas than?
supernature1010 3 years ago
really!!!!!!!! was Jordan a terror state when they killed over 15,000 Palestinians in the 70's??? wake up war is war .these people chose HAMASSS which is a terrorist organisation to lead Gaza so now they have to pay the price for their own foolishness.Hamass stared this shit and the innocent are suffering
peeptoes13 3 years ago 2
must look a situation without prejudice. Both sides commited unlawful acts and neither side dont want to compromise unless the conditions serves their best interest. This war will be loooonnnngggg. May cease for a while, rechard then explode again in future time, may not be out time but the war by then will be more devastating.
AmishCoffee 3 years ago
Joe the Plumper is to join your propoganad soo, as a a fair and unbiassed war reporter LIVE from GAZA
aniggg 3 years ago 2
mrallcock 3 years ago 2
Call 1-800-388-4200 Toll Free.
These people are trying to collect money for Israel.
Ask them how many Palestinians are killed for every dollar donated.
Please repaste this message around youtube.
WashMitt 3 years ago
"Zionists in their scriptures will cunningly change the meanings of words from 'land (of promise)' to the 'promised land'. Its these little discrepancies of the truth that we are so ignorant to.
tompointzero 3 years ago
figlio di puttana ...
oldklash 3 years ago
More Bullshit IDF talking points, the World doesn't Buy what this Clown is SELLING.
MEXICANCONGRESSOCT10 3 years ago
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garyadamess 3 years ago
It is time to end the illegal Arab occupation of Israel
Arabs must leave - Arabs go back to Syria
God Bless Israel
(you'll be seeing this message everywhere posted by thousands of people)
noahthefather 3 years ago
lets see what happens when Iran goes nuclear on Israel !! The world is with the people of Palestine
tkeitdwn 3 years ago
Israel terrorist gone wild
WashMitt 3 years ago
The current situation proves again that antisemitism is present and dominant in the world. People just cannot accept that there is a moral elite of jewish people, protecting a small country bordered by blood-thirsty islamic jihadists.
livnehra 3 years ago
There's nothing moral about their history. If they didn't occupy other territories with each war, there'd be less animosity towards Israelis. The leadership of all political parties are throughly corrupt, they occupy land meant for the Palestinian state, they let fundamentalist settlers run rampant in Palestinian territories. Apart from attempting to crush Hamas, there is nothing to support about Israel as a state. It is as failed and unstable as most of its neighbours.
VT16 3 years ago
No doubt Isreal has well organized propoganda machine. The terminology they used are often the same...8 yrs of rockets, what would you if...., We left Gaza...Hamas a terrorists...., We want peace...
If only Palestenains would lear a lesson from this and have PR programme they could have isolated Israeli for its crime. They can not win the governe,nets but for sure the public.
aniggg 3 years ago
I think what is also significant about all this is how easily neo-nazis can become legitimate again in a few decades. The stupid Jews have made it easy for antisemites and terrorists to begin twisting history to ignore all their own failings and focus only on Israel's. It will be easier and easier to justify killing Jews until a Nazi party gets elected again.
VT16 3 years ago
Israel using Depleted Uranium shells to kill every one who survives,Hamas has no army,no weapons,no machines,Israel has built a city on every piece of land they drive Gaza people off,those city's r 43 percent occupied but it makes it impossible to get the land back,Israel is using depleted uranium genocide against people in family cars n homes ,targeting UN schools that gave Israel their GPS and r clearly marked UN,bombs from a plane in the school n 2 bombs from tanks in front when kids ran out
NotOurCause 3 years ago
Muhammad is documented to sleep with under age girls and performed sexual acts with boys as well.....thats your prophet? OK that explains why islams only solution to their problems is to kill, destroy, blow up, behead.....so on
onepath09 3 years ago
saudichannel They suffer from water and medicine shortage,gas and electricity cut. So it is just another kind of terrorism.yes but it is more than that,Genocide,one day palestian will be so weak so dumb that will be no more palestianian ,anyone could overtake it one way or another.pitty
yimmiytube 3 years ago
Isreal will get terminated.Muslims lost Palestine before, then they regain it as they will regain it again. Did u know about the STUNNING DISCOVERY!! UFO Fleet formed ALLAH MUHAMMAD words! over Mexico!See the video in my favorite
amazonalien4 3 years ago
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The only way to make sense of Israels senseless war in Gaza is through understanding the historical context. Establishing the state of Israel in May 1948 involved a monumental injustice to the Palestinians. British officials bitterly resented American partisanship on behalf of the infant state. On 2 June 1948, Sir John Troutbeck wrote to the foreign secretary, Ernest Bevin, that the Americans were responsible for the creation of a gangster state headed by "an utterly unscrupulous set of leaders
see8no8evil 3 years ago
His mistake was saying " what did hamas think we ware suppose to bring them flower" meaning, "no flower for you just kill your children.
see8no8evil 3 years ago
Pay attention to the video and stop reading the comments. He couldn't even argue against Aljazeera's last point. He has no arguement. The Israeli man just proved to the world that they have no proof of Hamas doing some of the things they broadcast in the media.
xtrazacious 3 years ago
Rockets from Hamas, Rockets from Hamas Rockets from Hamas...that have killed about two dozen Israelis as of February, 2008 according to Jewishindy(dot)com. When Hamas kills civilians it is terrorism. When Israel massacres civilians, starves and maims them by the tens of thousands (according to ifamericansknew(dot)org)it is called self-defense.
No rockets from the Palestinian West Bank. How are the Arabs there faring next to Israel's Jewish-only, IDF guarded colonies of rampaging settlers?
LeMonde63 3 years ago
What did the Zionists expect when it decided to forcefully transfer millions of Western Europeans who were Jewish to a Muslim dominated region of the world surrounded by Arab countries?
I think Ghandi was correct.
Google:
Ghandi on Palestine
LeMonde63 3 years ago
Also, Eastern Europe and Russia
LeMonde63 3 years ago
Ghandi also slept with naked preteen girls and took daily enemas. He was also a racist who said alot of things about black people.
termansan 3 years ago
He may have also have run naked through the streets with his hair on fire after bathing in cow dung, but I still think he was correct about his estimation of the Zionists sending Jewish people to a country surrounded by Muslims and Arab culture to be a very bad idea.
LeMonde63 3 years ago
Ghandi also said this,
"My sympathies are all with the Jews. I have known them intimately in South Africa. Some of them became life-long companions. Through these friends I came to learn much of their age-long persecution. They have been the untouchables of Christianity...
LeMonde63 3 years ago
The parallel between their treatment by Christians and the treatment of untouchables by Hindus is very close. Religious sanction has been invoked in both cases for the justification of the inhuman treatment meted out to them. Apart from the friendships, therefore, there is the more common universal reason for my sympathy for the Jews."
LeMonde63 3 years ago
Ghandi: "I am not defending the Arab excesses. I wish they had chosen the way of non-violence in resisting what they rightly regarded as an unwarrantable encroachment upon their country. But according to the accepted canons of right and wrong, nothing can be said against the Arab resistance in the face of overwhelming odds."
LeMonde63 3 years ago
Zionists use all of the media buzz-words to make their case. Hate, terrorist - they think we're all hypnotized by these words because the media uses them repititiously. Repitition has worked well in the past, but because of the internet, people are noticing that Zionist propaganda is identical to the propaganda that got us into the Iraq war. We're noticing patterns, and the spell is being broken. Stupid Zionists haven't adjusted, they are still trying to overwhelm us with their buzz-words.
Joe99889 3 years ago
Bottomline, both Israelis and Palestinians commit atrocities in this farce of a conflict. It is racist and reprehensibly infantile to push the blame on solely one part, I have not supported Israel in their past offensives, but I actually hope they remove Hamas this time. That's the first step towards ending the offenses commited from the Palestine side, then it's on to the Israel dysfunction, which needs international intervention.
VT16 3 years ago
these people are killing women and children in front of the eyes of the UN and the world !!!
how can this happen !!!
How can we allow Isreal to do such Unhumain massacre without stoping nor even complaining about it ?
i'm truly sick of this world !
psdesigner 3 years ago
Lie. Lie. Lie. Repeat. That's their strategy.
Jackstowne 3 years ago
Israel should show some restraint. If they want to fight Hamas' militants, then fight Hamas' militants. They should stop bombing UN schools. And innocent civilians. They are MUCH better at it than Hamas, or anyone else, so I suppose it makes them proud. Killing innocent civilians, that is.
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DeltaSigChi4 3 years ago
lmfao fucking jewish cunts...
woodownv2 3 years ago
Hamas please stop launching missiles from mosques grounds its unlawful in islam, mosques are sacred.
PleaseAvoidHell 3 years ago
show me one proof that Hamas launch rockets from mosques to Israel.
Israel in these 13 days has destroyed 12 mosques, but the resistance still sends their rockets at the oppressors occupiers. So there is no missiles in mosques.
P.S : do not believe any thing Israelis say.
Peace.
SaudiGirlChannel 3 years ago
Go to the Israeli army channel and watch missiles launched from masjids
their channel is at idfnadesk
PleaseAvoidHell 3 years ago
I have just watched the video, and it does not prove anything. I watch Aljazeera live coverage of the war on Gaza everyday. They use different type of weapons. And I saw different kinds of missiles which falls once and bomb many areas around. Seriously, do you believe this rubbish?
This is their strategy. They want defame Hamas images in Muslims mind. Hamas knows better than to misuse houses of Allah.
Peace.
SaudiGirlChannel 3 years ago
Go read their Talmud as well.
gnarlyest 3 years ago
It has nothing to do with the Telmud. When Allah say don't fight in my moosques thats it you ought to listen. its outrageous to see muslims violating their own Sharia. stop using Masjids.
PleaseAvoidHell 3 years ago
dear (bro or sis) they do not use masjids. There is no proof, and they made it clear many times that they do not. Beside, leaders in hamas are not like mujahdeen in other places who have no knowledge in religion. Most of the leaders in hamas have PHD in one branch of Islam sciences. As I mentioned before they know better than misusing mosques of Almighty Allah.
Peace =)
SaudiGirlChannel 3 years ago
They did use the masjid Iam sure.
PleaseAvoidHell 3 years ago
Hamas are nothing like the mujahdeen, the USA supports the mujahdeens in countries like Afghanistan.
Even if Hamas were hiding weapons in mosques, why did Israel drop bombs over them during prayer time?
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
shihab's on fire!
rencrow 3 years ago
Israel is the biggest terrorist organization in the world.. they're not even fit to be call as "state" but terrorist "organization". stealing people's land, killing people by masses.. and as for the US, they're the biggest funder of the biggest terrorist organization.. funder to Terrorisrael.
muhammadalattas 3 years ago 4
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you fucking idiot. Hamas is terrorist organisation, not israel. Hamas targets civilian popultion on purpose, israel tries its best to avoid that. Hamas use their own children to blow other children as well as schools and hospitals as shields. Israel did have significantly less casualties but do you think if hamas has better rockets it would hesitate to use them on innocent civilian?
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
''Israel tries its best to avoid civilians casualities''. Do you realize how stupid you look, when you say that and you expect people to believe it?
unab84 3 years ago 3
israel uses guidance missiles instead of carpet bombing the entire city. in such a densly populated area, civilian death is inevitable, especially when hamas hid among civilians. if israel doesnt give a shit the death toll will be much much higher. Israeli soldiers had ethic lessons as part of the training. The one to blame is the gazans, who reject peaceful two state solution again and again,
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
"Hamas uses Palestinians as human shield." This is just a lame justification Israel use to kill innocent children : (uh hamas are hiding behind the kids!)It is just that your terrorist army is so afraid to engage in man to man battle with hamas freedom fighters. Your soldiers hide inside their tanks even if they see Palestinian children.They even wear pampers so they do not need to go out of their tanks a lot. Hamas do not need to hide. They know they will either win or be maryers.
SaudiGirlChannel 3 years ago 2
afraid to engage hamas in "man to man" battle? again, use your head. Do u think the israel army, one of most effective in the world, with state of the art technology and discipline training would be 'afraid' of the hamas? No, dont think so. if israel engage hamas in a conventional war the war would be over in a day.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Yep, and are also afraid to engage in "kid to man" battle:
watch?v=604n9YKaleY&feature=related
SaudiGirlChannel 3 years ago
oh, and i find it absolutely amazing that you would consider terrorist who strap bomb vest on their childrean and send them to blow up other children as honorable warriors. Really, the willingness to sacrifice childrean is clearly a sign of a culture of death. just as hilter had sent the hitler youth to face the red army in a hopeless battle.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Do you remember this child who was born years ago and recognized his country is occupied by Zionists? He saw his parents humiliated, kicked out of their house and depraved from primary humans' needs. This boy witnessed breaking bone strategy used by Zionists on his relatives. He lived surrounded by walls of segregation. He witnessed his mother killed on a check point because she was prevented to go to hospital and give birth to his sister.
DO YOU REMEMBER THIS BOY?
SaudiGirlChannel 3 years ago
This boy one day strapped bomb vest on his body and decide to defend himself.
This boy is made in Israel.
Shalom.
SaudiGirlChannel 3 years ago
a 12 year kid doesnt have the abiliy to make bomb vest on his own. Someone provided him with that. The Hamas. Anyone who has any conscience would not allow, no, encourage the kid to go on a suicided mission, especially when the target are innocent civilians.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
There no 12 years old kids into these thing. What matters is that Zionist made suicide bombing. If there is no occupation, there would be no suicide bombing. Actually suicide bombing only signifies Palestinians unbelievable sufferings.
Beside, do not play on the innocent civilians thing any more. Remember the UN school bombing yesterday? remember the 40 innocent ones killed there? go to your terrorist army channel and see how their tools know exactly what it's bombing.
Shalom
SaudiGirlChannel 3 years ago
first, israel had already offered to withdraw from gaza and west bank in 1995 and in 2000. gaza was only reoccupied because the epedemic of suicide bombing made it necessary. But lest you forget israel again withdrew in 2005.
Second, this whole mess would not have occured if the palestinians would accept the two state solution way back in 1937.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
You believe that shit? The Zionist leaders of that government had believe Israel extend Sea to Sea with Jerusalem. Zionist goals have been on record, that the militant Islamist want to re conquer the whole of Israel is on record too. Why fool yourself?
chewbaca1989 3 years ago
First, they withdraw to blockade it. Gaza is under siege for months now. They suffer from water and medicine shortage,gas and electricity cut. So it is just another kind of terrorism.
Second,fake Palestinians leaders in West Bank seems pretty much agree with this,still Israel attack cites in West Bank from time to time.
Suicide bombing is not the root of the problem,the blockade is.
Hamas are not the root of the problem,the occupation is.
Suicide bombing+Hamas are just results of the occupation.
SaudiGirlChannel 3 years ago
Israel withdrew from Gaza and continue to occupy it - it controls its land, air and sea to effectively turn it into one big prison.
Israel did not offer to withdraw from the West Bank in 1995. This is a blatant lie.
Two-state solution? You mean the one where the majority of the Palestinian population got a minority of the land with a large proportion of them living under a Jewish state with no rights? Who would accept such a deal?
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Paulo, you're a clown. Israel withdrew from Gaza and rocket and mortar attacks TRIPLED. THEN all the measures that "turn Gaza into one big prison" were taken, in response. Stop trying to twist history with your chicken/egg bullshit.
hotspur2514 3 years ago
Idiot, I do not deny that Israel withdrew from Gaza but they continue to occupy it! This is an undeniable fact!
Idiot before Hamas took control of Gaza the siege on this strip of land continued, so don't sell me your "its because of the rockets" bullshit story. The siege timeline does not correlate with the rocket attacks. FACT!
Twist history? How am I twisting history? I want you to refute what I just wrote with actual fact!
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
the land the jews obtained was purchased legitimately from absntee landlord. palestine was a largely underpopulated area with constantly shifting, mixed popultion who had no concept of nationalism before at least 1940s.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
This is an outright lie and you know it. In 1947 over 90% of the land was owned by Palestinians! This is an absolute fact supported by independent organisations like the UN.
They had no concept of nationalism! You stupid fool, since the times of the Ottoman Empire there was local resistance against the Turks to form a local government in Palestine to look after their own people. So don't feed me your bullshit, you have no idea!
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
more fucktarded 'comments. UN, like the peel commision, had rejected both extreme claims from both sidesi.e. one side own all land. it, as in 1937 and as in today, believed 2 state solution is the only viable option for peace. the land allocated to the jews were areas the jew were majority and already establish their own gov, press, schools, other infrastructure and in all sense a seperate state of its own.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Idiot Jews were a minority in this land yet they were given a majority of the land in this settlement, so don't tell me the division was a fair one.
A huge proportion of Palestinians, both Christian and Muslim, would also have found themselves in a Jewish state as second-class citizens. So don't lie to me and tell me that the areas were already controlled by Jews, you know this is not true.
I notice that you never directly challenge my arguments, because you know they're right.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
if one is to illustrate the division of land into a map, it would at first seems like the jews got more land. But that is to ignore the fact that the land the jews got included the Negev fucking desert, uninhabitable, almost useless. If you exclude that, more usable land was given to the Arab. not to mention the jewish state was divided thus vulnerable, but they accepted it nonetheless unlike the arabs.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Idiot Israel constantly argues that it has made the Negev "desert bloom" so don't feed me your shit about regarding this land as irrelevant.
Idiot they never accepted the Jewish state on the 1947 borders, they accepted it as the basis for the expansion of the Jewish state. Ben Gurion publicly acknowledged this many times, you have no idea. The 1947 boundaries would provide for the further expansion of a Jewish state, it would not be its final borders. This is fact, you cannot refute this!
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
cyklonb1989, I suggest you watch all 11 parts:
watch?v=dE3Zp4hE5fs
bbnemesis123 3 years ago
terrorist attack on israel did not start after the hamas took control. it started before that and had continued for decades. it is not a reactive last resort, it is a first resort to destroy israelis right to exist.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Idiot if we're going back in time you will realise that the first attacks of terror were by Jewish settlers against the indigenous Palestinian population. Does the Irgun mean anything to you? They later became Likud.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
well if you go by date then the irgun operated between 1931-1948. the hebron massacre that led to 133 jews dead and 339 injured occured in 1928. So what does this mean? It means your argument fucking suck!
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Idiot you failed to mention the Haganah they came long before the tragic 1928 massacre, they were certainly not the defense force they claimed to be and killed many innocent Arab Palestinians.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Idiot, I do not deny that PauloGVieira is an Idiot that keeps saying Idiot with a capital Idiot! This is an undeniable fact!
FACT!
Ha ha!
you're a cock
hotspur2514 3 years ago
1.Check what the word 'óccupy'means. Do u see israeli soldiers among the streets of gaza
2.Oslo interim agreement is a significant effort on israel's part to bring peace. she withdrew all troops from most populated palestinian area hand control over to PA and maintained only a few israeli settements and military buffer zones for security reason.
3.learn some histroy. there is no such things as the 'nation of palestine'populated by palestinians who lived there for centuries.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
LOL you stupid idiot, you tell me to check what the word 'occupy' means when you don't even know it yourself. It involves the "control of territory by a foreign army" and Israel controls Gaza's borders (including an international one), air space and sea. Even independent organisations like the UN agree that Israel still occupies Gaza. FACT!
Idiot Israel did not withdraw from Palestinian areas as per the Oslo agreement. FACT!
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
u fucktard, there is a major difference between occupying enemy territory and imposing economic sanction on it for launching attacks.israel withdrew its army from gaza in 2005, u dont see israel soldiers or gov institution in gaza. the hamas was in control. occupying an enemy territory requires exercising effective control of it. the allies also had econ sanction on japan during wwii, u gonna say america óccupied'japan? idiot
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Idiot I will repeat it again, these "economic sanctions" on Gaza were in place the moment Israel dismantled its settlements and before Hamas took power in Gaza. So don't tell me that it came about because of Hamas rockets, they were in place before them.
Idiot the territory of Gaza includes its air and sea space, this is the international definition not mine. Israel controls this so thus occupies the country.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
and so you are implying that gaza remained docile, begging for peace, no hostile attack against israel and israelis decide to blockade cos they got nthg better to do. Why do israel blockade gaza but boost the economy of west bank? ask yourself this please.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Idiot dont stray from my argument, the reason for the blockade that has been given my by Israel is the rockets. But the blockade was still in place before the rockets? This was Israel's reason for it.
You would love the Palestinians to beg for peace, instead they are fighting for their self-determination and basic human rights that YOU deny them!
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Hague Convention is a founding document of the modern law of armed conflict, and its definition of occupied territory was woven into the 1949 Geneva Conventions. There, the relevant provision provides that "[i]n the case of occupied territory, the application of the present Convention shall cease one year after the general close of military operations," although certain protections for the populations continue "to the extent that such Power exercises the functions of government in such territory
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
What the fuck is your point? You don't get it? The very architects of the Geneva Conventions also agree Gaza is still under occupation, FACT! The Israeli navy still operates within Palestinian-sovereign waters! FACT!
How about you find me an independent source within the international community that says Israel is not occupying Gaza? So far you are failing to prove your point.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
btw, stop using UN continuosly as if it's the owrd of god. UN is formed by countries too. countries each with their own agenda, subject to bias and inaccuracies.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
So IDF talking points are the way to go?
MEXICANCONGRESSOCT10 3 years ago
The UN is the standard of international law. You have no problem using the UN to argue for the partition that created Israel in 1948 but as soon as it does anything that you don't like suddenly they are biased and inaccurate.
You are an idiot.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
What then is the definition of occupation, as no definition exists in the Geneva Conventions themselves? We find a definition in the Hague Regulations of 1907.
Article 42 of the Hague Regulations states simply that the territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. This occupation extends only to territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Idiot, if the USA blocked Japan's borders, controlled its air and sea space then yes it is occupying Japan. FUCKFACE THIS IS NOT MY DEFINITION IT IS THE DEFINITION OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY!
Is the whole world wrong except you? You are delusional at best.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
I forgot to add, i agree with your definition of occupation but that clearly isnt the case is it? does israel have control over gaza? clearly not considering rockets were still firing from it.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
I did not say Israel has control over Gaza but that is OCCUPIES Gaza. You really do need to look up the word 'occupation' in the dictionary, you have really practical shortcomings with this word.
It is an absolute fact that Israel still occupies Gaza, the UN agrees, the USA agrees, the EU agrees, China agrees with this statement.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Really, certainly UN had agreed before that israel occupied gaza, this i admit the israelis admit. but is it anymore?? please stop using outdated information. get updated You can't exclude the most important aspect of territory-physical land- simply because it doesnt fit what you said. The meaning of occupation is interwoven with having governmental control over that terriory i.e. german occupation of france. again u cant ignore that.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Idiot dont take my word for it but check the facts, they are out there. This is not outdated information but current facts, by international law Israel still occupies Gaza.
Occupation is NOT interwoven with "governmental control" but rather control by a foreign country over territory it has no sovereignty over! FACT! This is indisputable! Territory includes air, sea and borders.
Again, this is not my definition or standing but that of the international community!
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
I'm getting tired of this. limiting the flow of food, fuel and other commodities into Gaza does not mean israel occupied gaza. As early as 1899, the Hague Convention on the Laws and Customs of War on Land stated that "[t]erritory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation applies only to the territory where such authority is established, and in a position to assert itself."
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
YAWN!, under international law a territory extends to its air, sea and borders. This is not my standard but of the international community. There is a hostile Israeli army and navy operating on Gazan territory, be it sea or air it is irrelevant. This hostile army has absolute authority over trade and the movement of goods and people.
Taking a different tact, Gaza is but a small part of Palestine. If I took over your house but me one room to use you would still be occupying it.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Again, you seem to be completely ignoring the fact israel has no government of any form within gaza itself, where people actually live. laws, law enforcement, and other government apparatus is run by hamas. Cuban was also blockaded by usa, so it's being occupied? the blockade is not a mean to 'occupy' gaza if that's the intention israel would move its troops in, as it did before. Again, u are mixing up timeline. confusing past events with present, applying the past statement into now.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Idiot no Geneva Convention says you need to have a government in the land for it to be occupied! FACT!
Also let us remember that Gaza is part of the Palestinian territories. There are towns in the West Bank that the Palestinian Authority looks after and no one is arguing that these are not under occupation.
You fucking retard! Cuba has absolute authority over its borders, sea and air space! To compare it to Gaza to prove your point only proves how much of a retard you actually are!
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
u retarded fuck, quit throwing words lke geneva convention as if u actually know wot it says. the forth geneva convention dealt with how occupants of a territory should be treated but if you actually read it it doesnt offer a clear definition of occupation. article 6 does however implies that an occupator needs to have some sort of governmental role i.e. "exercise the function of government in such territories"
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
You don't get it do you, Israel controls all trade going into Gaza. It "exercises the function of government" as borders, sea space and air space are under its control.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
right, so you are saying the only function of a government is trade? What about law making, foreign policy, domestic policy, national defense, education, health care? Those under israeli control too? Stop trying relate occupation with blockade and thus allow pro-terrorist fucks to say the hamas are just 'freedom fighters resising israeli occupation'.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
You stupid fool, trade going into Gaza effects food distribution, the health and education sector and the provision of basic aid. LOL, you really are fucking stupid.
As I said before this is the international standard, that Israel is occupying Gaza is a belief held by 98% of the international community.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
you retarded fucking fuck. Again, i already explained why blockading a country is not the same as occupying it. Read the newspaper and magazine, times, economists etc... they will tell you that the government in control is hamas, not israel. When usa quarantined cuba in 60s, she also had control of what goes in and out through the power of her navy. Would u call that 'occupation'? maybe u would, but professional historians wont.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Yawn! Quite frankly I do not care what the Jew York Times (oops!) writes, the standard of international law is absolutely irrefutable. Go on! Argue against it via the standard of international law?
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Paolo says the Jew York Times...so did the Nazis...Paolo...are you a Portuguese speaking Fascist?
dudemantwo 3 years ago
i like you. thank you for having a brain and arguing with the idiot nazi israelis on here.
waterroadtree324 3 years ago
Opening boarder w/o control means allowing to ship bigger armaments then comes a bigger war. Beyond the south of Gaza is Egypt. Even Egypt, Saudi, Jordan & PLO do not want Hamas to become stronger to prevent their local militants to follow. Cuba was controled by the US to lessen the threats, merely a matter of time waiting for Cuba to change leaders without firing missiles. Hamas is an islamic militant with tendency to disregard international law unlike the moderate PLO.
AmishCoffee 3 years ago
Idiot, Hamas is asking for the borders to be re-opened like they once were under EU control. No weapons were smuggled into Gaza through EU-controlled border posts.
You're right, those countries would prefer to see the Palestinian Authority get stronger, but they realise that this war is doing the exact opposite.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Hey retard Paulo, do you have a common sense! Bwahahaha. Rockets were being fired long before Hamas is fu*cking your mother & sisters. Arms and rockets materials were smuggled from the seas into egypt then passing hidden tunnels now being shelled by Israel bombs. Go Israel go! Burn Gaza to hell, kill every freaking hamas. I like to taste their blood. Bwahahaha !!!!
nonoyramos 3 years ago
Tell me, what other historical cases is there that the term 'occupation' is used this way? there are certainly many cases of occupation in histroy i.e. german occupation of france in wwi+ii, US occupation of Japan post wwii and many many others.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Idiot, an occupation is the control of foreign territory by a foreign army. This is the standard, you fucking work it out for yourself you dimwit!
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
And where's that 98% STATISTICS come from? Pls stop using outdated statement to support current events.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
There are only 2 countries that support the idea that Israel still occupies Gaza, the USA and Israel. Now if there are about 190 countries in the world and only two of them agree with you I think you will actually find my figure to be accurate.
Idiot.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago 2
really? back that up, will ya? What did Georgia, South Korea, Philipine and Peru say about the situation in 2008? So they agree that Gaza is still 'occupied'? Please cite your sources.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
LOL Georgia! LOL Peru! LOL Philipines! Ok I guess that brings down the percentage to about 95%. LOL!
Idiot you need to look at UN Assembly resolutions for your sources.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
paulo paulo paulo, i think we both know you couldnt sustain this debate anymore with any new strong points... So good night child.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Retard Paulo, I owned a dozen country and all supports Israel! I'm sick and tired of Hamas and fuc*king your mother & sisters. They smell like Hamas. Pwe !!! Dammn, bombs falling to Gaza again. Bwahahaha !!!!
nonoyramos 3 years ago
Paolo...looks like John Stamos...he is one swarthy looking guy...hahahaha...
Paolo...get an education...your lips by the way are very sexual...hahahaha...
dudemantwo 3 years ago 2
btw, i 'm referring to cuba during the cuban missile crisis. I thought i dont need to explicitly say it but apparently not
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Well given that your silly country continues to blockade Cuba.....idiot.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
This illustrates that there is a physical test which establishes the creation of a state of occupation, one in which the physical presence of the occupier limits the ability of the occupied population to make authoritative decisions in its own territory.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
A physical test? You're just making this up as you go along, there is no such thing as a "physical test". The proponents of International Law have not drafted such a "physical test".
Again, you're a fucking idiot! Look up the frontiers of a foreign territory, it includes air and sea space you fool!
These are basic facts that you completely ignore when you reply to me.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Stop pretending to be an expert of international law, u clearly arent one as demonstrated by that stupid remark about geneva convention.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
What a test means is that one can compare the actual situation on the ground with the defintion of occupation as stated in international law to see if they fit. IF you do that to gaza you would realise it doesnt. Stop ur point about border control, the shit u read from some pro palestine website is false.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Again, there is no "test". There is a standard under International law which the international community absolutely supports.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Let me clarify. Obviously I'm not talking a test like the fucking Gcse. I'm just saying there are a checklist which we can use to check if a place could classifed as 'occupied' or not.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Retard Paulo, test you fuc*king ass ! Hamas is the social ills in this world. Bwahahaha
nonoyramos 3 years ago
Also, the US voted 40 times against the UN to declare Israel as an Occupation violating the 4th Geneva Convention. The UN believes Israel is an occupation of Palestinian land.
cyklonb1989, I suggest you watch all 11 parts:
watch?v=dE3Zp4hE5fs
bbnemesis123 3 years ago
when? does it still believe that? if so, right now, why does it and other world leaders not ask for the stopping of israeli occupation of gaza and west bank? it ask for withdrawl of troop but that's different.
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Idiot there is certainly no history of the "nation of Israel" before 1948 either! The era of the nation-state largely emerged in the fourteenth century onwards. So don't tell me your collection of tribes in some fictional holy book is evidence of a "nation". Idiot!
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
and no I don't refer to some fictional holy book for evidence thank you very much
cyklonb1989 3 years ago
Retard Paulo, Israel is just a name. Jews were there since the biblical time. Before islam there was already Palestinian Jews & Palestinian Arabs dwelling in that area. Ooopppss, I just got a call from your mother & sister again! Fuc*king time dude. Bwahahaha!!!
nonoyramos 3 years ago
1. your dumb bwahahahaha!!!
2. there were muslims, jews, and christians living in the area IN PEACE before the poor little zionist holocaust survivors showed up. so tell me smartie pants, who started the problem?
waterroadtree324 3 years ago
The West for migrating them all in foreign land rather than accepting them as immigrants?
zentonil 3 years ago
yeah the west, since they cared so so much about them, shouldve taken them and put em all in like london or texas or something. it was wrong to throw a whole people onto a land where people already lived without even consulting those people.
waterroadtree324 3 years ago
I keep hearing "the Palestinians could have had their own state ..." from the Israeli side. Dig up a map of the territory offered to them and it will be obvious why they turned it down - you would have, too. They would have been spread out in separate "bubbles" of land w/ Israeli checkpoints in between, and I don't regard it as a coincidence that all the good farmland and water happened to be outside the Palestinian lands proposed by Israel. Bluntly, they refused to be Jewed out of their land.
Nutrino2179 3 years ago 3
very smart, the war tribunal should hold him accountable for warpropaganda and active participation following the break of the ceize fire by israel
in the end he even denies the existence of his function
vanreybroeck 3 years ago
Shihab, get him, don`t let him get away with his nonesense. Israelis are a bunch of baby-killing, land grabbing, defenceless people terrorizing, deceit utilizing, lying and cowardly robbers.Everything they utter is nothing but lies
inexorableJmcle 3 years ago
Have you study Arabian, Turkish, and Muslim history? Stupid question: throughout history, Muslim killed more people or Jews?
mercedescl 3 years ago
israel are terrorists, read the old testament! they've been targeting pregnant women and children for thousands of years. The whole world suffers when the fuken