uplifter is way too slow besides this and indian ink there new slow songs just don't grow on you as the old ones did and this was for sure a letdown more than don't tread on me. Universal pulse is all good except like one song, but it is way too short there better be a B side to it. In all respects i like all there albums but dislike this one. Only 2 of their songs on here were good where as I can listen to every song on every album, just not dont tread on me or uplifter.
further explanation: The beginning sounds like Large in the Margin, the pre-chorus reminds me of SOAD (esp. the vocals), the chorus riff sounds like Freeze Time, and the "magic" lyric reminds me of the old McDonald's commercials "Do you believe in magic?". Still a decent song though. 311 forever!
Those who think they're 311 fans but are upset with their newer music should take another listen to "It's Alright", and maybe "I'll Be Here Awhile" while you're at it.
Oh so because SA Martinez doesn't rap about astral projection and shit anymore, their music sucks? lol... Who gives a fuck about lyrics, they are a million times the SONGWRITERS they've ever been as of Uplifter. I've got a pretty sick soundsystem in my car, not stock, so I don't know what everyone else is missing when they listen to Uplifter.. but from my drivers seat this album is absolutely amazing.. like this song, even though it pretends to be unremarkable on the surface. Daisy Cutter ftw
@Sever actually the average person doesnt even pay attention to lyrics. only the beat and the hook. 311 is good. they were better in the pre-soundsystem era. now they have a new set of fans that unfortunately dig pop rock music as well. 311's style and sound has changed in a whole. They went from improvisational masterpieces and eclectic lyrics to this. A band that is now tied down to corporate cookiecutters. i wouldnt say they sold out, but now they have lost most of their old hardcore fans.
Speak for yourself guy. You're the first 'hardcore' fan I've seen say this. The last thing 311 will ever do is be tied down to corporate cookiecutters.
SA says it himself, "they day we turn to pop the show will stop"
Don't even try to say 311 sold out because they haven't, and uplifter was badass. I'm tired of hearing these 'hardcore' fans say it sucked. Clearly you aren't as hardcore as you think.
@randyc420 - i would have to agree with you on that one, man. however, i'd say about 80% of 311 fans live and breathe 311 - they've got the most hardcore, dedicated fans out there. so to say they've lost "most" of their old hardcore fans is a bit much. they've lost "some." and even at that - they never lose those fans completely. i still love em.. but i really only ever find myself listening to transistor and prior.
@dharmapunx3 transistor and prior is by far their best work. I dont care how much you mix a song. If a song is overproduced and there is no 'umph' that your used to from such a great band, I'm sorry they just arent the same band that they used to. True they have evolved and improved in ways. but it went from having 95% of songs on an album to being insanely great to 1-2 songs and the rest being mediocre. Something changed. I think they decided to switch to main streak pop-rock
Hell no did they turn into pop. I don't get why people wants a band to have the same exact sounds throughout a 20 year period.
The best part about 311 is that they do have so many different sounds and styles. You know, as a human being, I have different moods and so I can listen to the VARIETY of 311 that fits my mood and that's the magic of it. Fuck the naysayers, uplifter was a good album and 311 is producing another album as we speak
@dharmapunx3 and who can blame them? Times are rough even for successful bands. All I'm saying is that the band that brought you songs like Welcome, Jackolantern's Weather, Brodels, Soul Sucker, Firewater, and Silver would not have brought you songs like Love Song. Totally different realms of the spectrum.
Big Up to all the True 311 fans, you know who you are and what it's all about. Sometimes it's better not to waste time,breath or effort on those who just aren't down with the boys. That's why they are a band with an army, that sell out live shows wherever they go, and not sell outs, played out on the radio...
I don't know, these songs on Uplifter are good, but not deep. For example, when I first got turned onto 311, I spent a good half hour just pondering the meanings of the songs on Soundsystem, Large in the Margin and Flowing in particular. Uplifter, on the other hand, has pretty simple songs. Hmm, I think Daisy cutter isn't about a girl, but about the bomb. /Sarcasm
@hlake. Im a huge 311 fan. And high, sober, drunk, or whatever I'm sorry.... These last two albums have been AWFUL. Each has 1/2 tracks at best that are noteworthy. Go look @ Grassroots and Evolver and see how EVERY song front to back is truly inspired and appealing.
@bishoptaint ...Dude read what you said, you said "im a huge 311 fan"...Your obviously not if you say anything they produce is awful. I understand the last 2 albums were different but if you are a true 311 fan you will appreciate it and not be talking smack.. Come off it man
I am so thankful for this band. they completely nail the spiritual journey that i think everyone needs to experiance through meditation. do your research!
Here it is all. If you call yourself a 311 fan you will appreciate everything they produce, thats it. No other way to put it, if you say any negative comment towards their music you are not a fan, so fuck all the haters I say
@hlake4311 I have to disagree, I consider myself a huge 311 fan; and as such I consider myself one of their biggest critics. 311 influenced my life in a positive fashion more than ne other band, n for that I thank them. While uplifter is a big step in the right direction as compared to DTOM, it's still far from what 311 used to/can be. If you try to justify tracks like "hey you" then you r not a fan but a mindless follower (which is exactly what their earlier/best music speaks against). Lead.
@ZeroOdyssey songs made for radio are often under 3 mins if not the songs have to be cut to fit the air time slot. Bands that make music for the sake of music often have longer songs was my point
dude this album produced about 6 fuckin bad ass songs and a couple more good ones. Fuck you, the end of this song is so fuckin bad ass if you're high and listening to it on nice speakers loud. fuck all you "hardcore 311 fans" that dont like this album, grassroots is my favorite album but this album is fuckin good
if you're listening to this song high on nice car speakers with a sub, holy fuck the end is unbelievable. best 20 seconds of the song, are 3:43 up to 4:03 . but the actual best part is 3:59 . It will blow your fuckin mind and you will feel like electricity fucking running through you, and this is just being baked
spoken like a true music enthusiast! I listen to all kinds of music and whenever i play 311 it takes me back to a good place...... such a legendary talent.......
Fuck gay ass'd Maroon 5 and Fuck anyone who compares that Radio-ready Pop bullshit to 311. Baseless, senseless crap for dude's who can't get a chick any other way than by claiming to be "into" Maroon 5 just to get his dick jerked. If your gonna go that route, try Marvin Gaye or Al Green, gets the panties wet every time. But don't try to claim your into music and say you have good taste by being a M5 fan. What that does is make you a total douchefucker who is no different than a Ho/Emo queer.
What I like about this album is that it doesn't feel like 311 was trying to use Uplifter to just sell a bunch of records or like they were taking themselves too seriously.. Instead it feels like they were just having fun and making music. Uplifter is the kind of album you listen to when you want to have a laid back, enjoyable time. I love it.
this album is fuckin awesome and u assholes that say that it is shit then you can go fuck your self and ur mother cuz you havent ever seen them in concert they sound FAN- FRICKIN-TASTC and ths album is bomb bro
this album kicks fuckin ass, i love grassroots, music, soundsystem, blue album, from chaos and transistor but this album is fuckin amazing. i put it ahead of DTOM, evolver, from chaos, and transistor, and don't get me wrong, transistor and from chaos are damn sweet. what it comes down to is 311 is by far the best band ever. 9th album and they can still put out about 6 songs that blow my mind. this album is fuckin special. it grows on me every day, its crazy
Fuck You and any more bullshit comparrision's that come from your brainwashed retarded ass comments about shit you have no idea what you're talking about. 311 and m5 should never even be mentioned in the same sentence. Keep talking that bullshit and you will keep showing your ignorance and lack of knowledge of any and all things talented. The band members of 311 are musicians while the homos in M5
are only good at recognizing each others taint. Think before you breath. Douche fucker.
Rairwalk....Agreed.....everyone is hating on this album but i love it.... Its a disgrace that all these people are hating on 311 and they called themselves fans in the past??? I dont get it
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Actually SA's vocals remind me of Vince Neil from Motley Crue on this song. I thought somebody was fooling us at first and placed a Motley Cure song in
i really didn't like this song the 1st 2-3 times i listened to it, but now its growin on me more and more.......OMG and miT is ridiculous on this song!!!!!!!!!!! i always want miT to have bigger, crazier solos
Nick and Essay...it's cool, we know you're both gay for each other. S.A. for the trolls.
antonioplumlerez 5 months ago
uplifter is way too slow besides this and indian ink there new slow songs just don't grow on you as the old ones did and this was for sure a letdown more than don't tread on me. Universal pulse is all good except like one song, but it is way too short there better be a B side to it. In all respects i like all there albums but dislike this one. Only 2 of their songs on here were good where as I can listen to every song on every album, just not dont tread on me or uplifter.
Drewc828 6 months ago
311 ruuuuules and fuck those 6 dislikers
iuriSalvador 6 months ago in playlist Chilln/Relaxn
awesome song. but the crash of the cymbals sound too fuzzy
empiireofthesun 7 months ago
got a lil metal to it
Kingopersia 7 months ago
Freeze Time + Large In the Margin + System Of A Down + Ronald McDonald = Something Out Of Nothing
SkaMasta097 9 months ago
@SkaMasta097
further explanation: The beginning sounds like Large in the Margin, the pre-chorus reminds me of SOAD (esp. the vocals), the chorus riff sounds like Freeze Time, and the "magic" lyric reminds me of the old McDonald's commercials "Do you believe in magic?". Still a decent song though. 311 forever!
SkaMasta097 9 months ago
@SkaMasta097 um, maybe they have similar phrasing, but they are nothing alike at all.
JPPraterCO08 5 months ago
311 is perfect for cruising the coastline
Fergy64 1 year ago 3
@Fergy64 could not of said it better myself
empiireofthesun 7 months ago
Those who think they're 311 fans but are upset with their newer music should take another listen to "It's Alright", and maybe "I'll Be Here Awhile" while you're at it.
reev9759 1 year ago
@reev9759 I agree completely bc I was one of those guys until this year
MrMrrRNELLi 1 year ago
311 isnt music. its a religon, and these words are my bible
chrissyboy229 1 year ago 2
this song should have been a bside instead of sun come through or how long has it been, still a great track IMO
Robiskool1234 1 year ago
Oh so because SA Martinez doesn't rap about astral projection and shit anymore, their music sucks? lol... Who gives a fuck about lyrics, they are a million times the SONGWRITERS they've ever been as of Uplifter. I've got a pretty sick soundsystem in my car, not stock, so I don't know what everyone else is missing when they listen to Uplifter.. but from my drivers seat this album is absolutely amazing.. like this song, even though it pretends to be unremarkable on the surface. Daisy Cutter ftw
Sever 1 year ago 3
@Sever actually the average person doesnt even pay attention to lyrics. only the beat and the hook. 311 is good. they were better in the pre-soundsystem era. now they have a new set of fans that unfortunately dig pop rock music as well. 311's style and sound has changed in a whole. They went from improvisational masterpieces and eclectic lyrics to this. A band that is now tied down to corporate cookiecutters. i wouldnt say they sold out, but now they have lost most of their old hardcore fans.
randyc420 1 year ago
@randyc420
Speak for yourself guy. You're the first 'hardcore' fan I've seen say this. The last thing 311 will ever do is be tied down to corporate cookiecutters.
SA says it himself, "they day we turn to pop the show will stop"
Don't even try to say 311 sold out because they haven't, and uplifter was badass. I'm tired of hearing these 'hardcore' fans say it sucked. Clearly you aren't as hardcore as you think.
Ferebee311 1 year ago 4
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dharmapunx3 1 year ago
@randyc420 - i would have to agree with you on that one, man. however, i'd say about 80% of 311 fans live and breathe 311 - they've got the most hardcore, dedicated fans out there. so to say they've lost "most" of their old hardcore fans is a bit much. they've lost "some." and even at that - they never lose those fans completely. i still love em.. but i really only ever find myself listening to transistor and prior.
dharmapunx3 1 year ago
@dharmapunx3 transistor and prior is by far their best work. I dont care how much you mix a song. If a song is overproduced and there is no 'umph' that your used to from such a great band, I'm sorry they just arent the same band that they used to. True they have evolved and improved in ways. but it went from having 95% of songs on an album to being insanely great to 1-2 songs and the rest being mediocre. Something changed. I think they decided to switch to main streak pop-rock
randyc420 1 year ago
@randyc420
"The day we turn to pop the show will stop"
Hell no did they turn into pop. I don't get why people wants a band to have the same exact sounds throughout a 20 year period.
The best part about 311 is that they do have so many different sounds and styles. You know, as a human being, I have different moods and so I can listen to the VARIETY of 311 that fits my mood and that's the magic of it. Fuck the naysayers, uplifter was a good album and 311 is producing another album as we speak
Ferebee311 1 year ago 5
@Ferebee311 couldnt have said it any better myself
ChrisHeine311 11 months ago
@dharmapunx3 and who can blame them? Times are rough even for successful bands. All I'm saying is that the band that brought you songs like Welcome, Jackolantern's Weather, Brodels, Soul Sucker, Firewater, and Silver would not have brought you songs like Love Song. Totally different realms of the spectrum.
randyc420 1 year ago
@randyc420 they didnt write love dong nimrod
megadeth2thenwo 8 months ago
@randyc420 they didnt write love song nimrod
megadeth2thenwo 8 months ago
Big Up to all the True 311 fans, you know who you are and what it's all about. Sometimes it's better not to waste time,breath or effort on those who just aren't down with the boys. That's why they are a band with an army, that sell out live shows wherever they go, and not sell outs, played out on the radio...
kennyjames311 1 year ago 3
I don't know, these songs on Uplifter are good, but not deep. For example, when I first got turned onto 311, I spent a good half hour just pondering the meanings of the songs on Soundsystem, Large in the Margin and Flowing in particular. Uplifter, on the other hand, has pretty simple songs. Hmm, I think Daisy cutter isn't about a girl, but about the bomb. /Sarcasm
Heven644 1 year ago
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Heven644 1 year ago
@hlake. Im a huge 311 fan. And high, sober, drunk, or whatever I'm sorry.... These last two albums have been AWFUL. Each has 1/2 tracks at best that are noteworthy. Go look @ Grassroots and Evolver and see how EVERY song front to back is truly inspired and appealing.
bishoptaint 1 year ago
@bishoptaint ...Dude read what you said, you said "im a huge 311 fan"...Your obviously not if you say anything they produce is awful. I understand the last 2 albums were different but if you are a true 311 fan you will appreciate it and not be talking smack.. Come off it man
hlake4311 1 year ago
@bishoptaint dont judge new albums on past albums
its not what a 311 fan should do bands evolve all the time, they kept their rythm but they mixed it up a little bit
you just gotta go with the flow
the flow dude, THE FLOW!!!!! 311 FOR THE WORLD
nirvanaspirit666 1 year ago 7
I am so thankful for this band. they completely nail the spiritual journey that i think everyone needs to experiance through meditation. do your research!
creamiercorn 1 year ago
ugh, 311... what happened ?? just makes me want to cry....
bizzways 1 year ago
311!! What would I do without you? Can't WAIT to see you this summer in ATL! :) This song is AMAZING. The lyrics are very special.
profoundpanda420 1 year ago
Best song (excluding Bsides) on this album, imo.
ParadiXe311 1 year ago
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My top 5 311 Albums:
1. Grassroots
2. Uplifter
3. 311
4. Transistor
5. From Chaos
dkukreja 1 year ago
@jhazlem ... grassroots is definately the tits.
explodingpuppy 1 year ago
Here it is all. If you call yourself a 311 fan you will appreciate everything they produce, thats it. No other way to put it, if you say any negative comment towards their music you are not a fan, so fuck all the haters I say
hlake4311 1 year ago
@hlake4311 i couldnt agree with you more!
akatch311 1 year ago
@hlake4311 I have to disagree, I consider myself a huge 311 fan; and as such I consider myself one of their biggest critics. 311 influenced my life in a positive fashion more than ne other band, n for that I thank them. While uplifter is a big step in the right direction as compared to DTOM, it's still far from what 311 used to/can be. If you try to justify tracks like "hey you" then you r not a fan but a mindless follower (which is exactly what their earlier/best music speaks against). Lead.
bizzways 1 year ago
we are positive
whatsinmyroom 2 years ago
notice this album is for the fans not the radio most songs are 4 mins +
Lostndsurf 2 years ago 3
@Lostndsurf whats 4 mins have to do with anything?
ZeroOdyssey 2 years ago
@ZeroOdyssey songs made for radio are often under 3 mins if not the songs have to be cut to fit the air time slot. Bands that make music for the sake of music often have longer songs was my point
Lostndsurf 1 year ago
dude this album produced about 6 fuckin bad ass songs and a couple more good ones. Fuck you, the end of this song is so fuckin bad ass if you're high and listening to it on nice speakers loud. fuck all you "hardcore 311 fans" that dont like this album, grassroots is my favorite album but this album is fuckin good
jhazlem 2 years ago 6
you shouldn't have to be high to enjoy a 311 song
drewsky684 2 years ago 35
i dont have to be high, but why the fuck not be high when i can, music is better while you're high
jhazlem 2 years ago
@drewsky684 no but it makes it even that much better
creamiercorn 1 year ago
@drewsky684 no but im high and this song still fucking RULES!!!! 311!!!!! 420 :D!!!
evilmonkeylords 1 year ago
@drewsky684 true, but best enjoyed with a nice bongrip in my opinion =)
CTdutchmasta 9 months ago
completely agree
Dougworth 2 years ago
so what if its the same riff, theyre good enough to make it badass again.
mickmeador 2 years ago 14
@mickmeador i agree alot of bands do that,fuck look at metallica......(BTW they suck)
IMprettyTO 1 year ago
Everytime I hear the beginning of this song, I think of beautiful disaster.
threeelevensalsa 2 years ago
if you're listening to this song high on nice car speakers with a sub, holy fuck the end is unbelievable. best 20 seconds of the song, are 3:43 up to 4:03 . but the actual best part is 3:59 . It will blow your fuckin mind and you will feel like electricity fucking running through you, and this is just being baked
jhazlem 2 years ago
spoken like a true music enthusiast! I listen to all kinds of music and whenever i play 311 it takes me back to a good place...... such a legendary talent.......
dannytube5607 2 years ago 3
@dannytube5607 AGREED
profoundpanda420 1 year ago
Sad to see negative comments in here
311 is so real!!
wiseowl12989 2 years ago 4
Man so much 311 hate...who the hell are the Maroon 5?
ilmenidren 2 years ago
Fuck gay ass'd Maroon 5 and Fuck anyone who compares that Radio-ready Pop bullshit to 311. Baseless, senseless crap for dude's who can't get a chick any other way than by claiming to be "into" Maroon 5 just to get his dick jerked. If your gonna go that route, try Marvin Gaye or Al Green, gets the panties wet every time. But don't try to claim your into music and say you have good taste by being a M5 fan. What that does is make you a total douchefucker who is no different than a Ho/Emo queer.
fantomasnomore 2 years ago
What I like about this album is that it doesn't feel like 311 was trying to use Uplifter to just sell a bunch of records or like they were taking themselves too seriously.. Instead it feels like they were just having fun and making music. Uplifter is the kind of album you listen to when you want to have a laid back, enjoyable time. I love it.
AgActual 2 years ago 2
this is the best album ever, jah rastafari
gloriahjk 2 years ago
nice to see someone agrees with me
emoboi311 2 years ago
the albums grows on you. liked it at first. LOVE IT NOW. AHHHHHHH 3 - 11 - 3 - 3 11
Bflave420 2 years ago 2
Beginning riff sounds like a combination between freeze time and beautiful disaster. I like it!
mrCrazyman307 2 years ago 3
mrcrazyman307 you can definately here something close to beautiful disaster in there.
Bflave420 2 years ago
this album is fuckin awesome and u assholes that say that it is shit then you can go fuck your self and ur mother cuz you havent ever seen them in concert they sound FAN- FRICKIN-TASTC and ths album is bomb bro
so go suck ur nuts if u think it is bad
TRUE 311 FAN RIGHT HERE!!
elmotities 2 years ago 4
anyone who doesnt like this shit can suck on my ball sack your tone deff
311hoesky 2 years ago
75 percent of this album stinks worse than your ball sack. its ok to admit that 311 doesn't have it anymore
TheZeket 2 years ago
Zek- You are 100% wrong. This album is amazing. Naysayers said the same when Soundsystem came out, and just like you they were wrong.
myesnuck 2 years ago 4
this album kicks fuckin ass, i love grassroots, music, soundsystem, blue album, from chaos and transistor but this album is fuckin amazing. i put it ahead of DTOM, evolver, from chaos, and transistor, and don't get me wrong, transistor and from chaos are damn sweet. what it comes down to is 311 is by far the best band ever. 9th album and they can still put out about 6 songs that blow my mind. this album is fuckin special. it grows on me every day, its crazy
jhazlem 2 years ago
this is just horrible
crazyivan1989 2 years ago
you are just horrible
vampirefish1 2 years ago 3
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This sounds like shit,
Pavement is way better
ggn1 2 years ago
I got some better pot now it sounds like horrible unlistenable shit.
am i doing it wrong
furQ 2 years ago
haha when the vocal comes in it sounds like maroon 5
furQ 2 years ago
No Bro not at all get some better pot
whitefang490 2 years ago
hahaha your right, i still like it tho. ah im such a tool now.
foerum151 2 years ago 2
Yes you are. Not about being right, but being a tool.
fantomasnomore 2 years ago
Fuck You and any more bullshit comparrision's that come from your brainwashed retarded ass comments about shit you have no idea what you're talking about. 311 and m5 should never even be mentioned in the same sentence. Keep talking that bullshit and you will keep showing your ignorance and lack of knowledge of any and all things talented. The band members of 311 are musicians while the homos in M5
are only good at recognizing each others taint. Think before you breath. Douche fucker.
fantomasnomore 2 years ago
tell me the first like 10 seconds done sound like beautiful disaster just a lil slower and off beat?
bub5369 2 years ago
thats what i noticed
toplusto 2 years ago
I love this album and have been a fan since transistor and 311 has been my #1 band since then keep on rocking thanks 311
driftcarsjp 2 years ago 3
Rairwalk....Agreed.....everyone is hating on this album but i love it.... Its a disgrace that all these people are hating on 311 and they called themselves fans in the past??? I dont get it
hlake4311 2 years ago
this song isnt really cohesive...
JPPraterCO08 2 years ago
we are the yin and the yang...the endin the middle and the big bang
awesome
izillin420 2 years ago 4
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311 is weak.
its just not the same.
i've passed up two concerts here. and i know i've missed nothing
09musicGOD 2 years ago
Untrue. If you don't come different you'll get dropped. Sharp 311 minds will love this Album.
Rairwalk 2 years ago 3
they are playing on Jimmy Kimmell tonite
phuckface22 2 years ago
The beginning is essentially a slowed down Beautifiul Disaster riff
Atmosphere311 2 years ago
You think so? Kind of reminds me of Freeze Time :p
DeadOmega 2 years ago
yeah the start sounds like freeze time. i thought that the first time i hear it
joshhaz 2 years ago
same with me
HurricaneFreak30336 2 years ago
Holy shit this song is fucken awsome
Wattomellon 2 years ago 4
Good solo
menzpk 2 years ago
the beginning is so cheesy
ivan1111111111111 2 years ago
welcome to Bob Rock rock. He cut his teeth on 80s garbage.
phuckface22 2 years ago
80s garbage? You don't know shit about music then.
AniMetalDominance 2 years ago
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Actually SA's vocals remind me of Vince Neil from Motley Crue on this song. I thought somebody was fooling us at first and placed a Motley Cure song in
Bnat36 2 years ago
fuckin sick... the opening wit sa is jus fuckin amazing
tweedspliff 2 years ago
SA's vocals remind me of Depeche Mode on this song.
frankthetank0423 2 years ago
This song rocks ass...even the first time i listened to it...btw...awesome chorus
riptorn311 2 years ago
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they shouldnt have made this song. hehe
bcoe2 2 years ago
i really didn't like this song the 1st 2-3 times i listened to it, but now its growin on me more and more.......OMG and miT is ridiculous on this song!!!!!!!!!!! i always want miT to have bigger, crazier solos
tumichimu 2 years ago
I think he has doen more than enough on previous albums. I think I blow my load every time I hear the solo on Sever or Use of Time.
hexsex21 2 years ago
The chorus is really good but the rest idk...
Playercmrn7 2 years ago
God,this album is a zillion times better than DTOM.
jklinecarguy 2 years ago
It doesn't take much to be better then Don't Tread on Me. Other then a couple songs, that album was a letdown compaired to the rest of 311's library
oralinfluence 2 years ago
this song is sick
pistolabus 2 years ago
chorus sucks
bicho311 2 years ago
Sick song, this is probably my favorite 311 guitar solo ever.
Wannabuyakitten 2 years ago