Comets don't have long pointed arms coming out of each side that go in and out ...in one of the many video's from the NASA SOHO images/videos that has not been edited you can see that those get longer and then get shorter(going in and out) A comet is not something like that.... ???? I have no idea WHAT it is...but seems like that is something that has been created by someone... ???
@xSweet1o1x That is a classic comet. The "arms" are where the comet got so bright that the detector saturated and the excess charge leaked to adjectent pixels in the read direction of the detector (E-W). The apparent pulsing happens as the image of the comet moves on the detector sharing the charge between 1, 2, 4 or even 9 pixels. If the arms get very long, if 9 very short.
@drkstrong No they literally mechanically move in and out..its not like they are sometimes shorter and sometimes longer....while its flying through the air they go in an out constantly....but most of the videos have been altered. (but not all because I have a couple saved that plainly shows it)
A nanu second before the comet comes out there is a pixel looking cube that forms just below the comet right next to the red circle. If you could slow it down between 1:40 and 1:45 it would be more visible. In the mean time I will look for the video that I saw it in on another channel.
@MsTeaRex OK I see what you are refering to. Remember this is what is called Beacon data - ie highly compressed images which means that some imaging information is lost. When there is a bright object in a single pixel like a cosmic ray the compression algorithm cant handle it and when reconstructed you get all sorts of weird shapes. This is such an instance.
Did you notice the "cube" right before the comet emerges from the other side? Kind of lower right had side. Check it out and see if you can get a close up.
@drkstrong This is a new feature. everytime it seems you make a comment the video pops up in the subscription new videos. do you have a setting on updates on comments even though they are not our directed comment. I keep getting your holiday video showing back up and this one did again because of mstearex. while I enjoy your videos it gets redundant seeing the same video, just wondering if you knew anything about this. Merry Christmas.
Hehe, I KNEW you had to forestall a little bit of Christmas to announce this one Keith.
SCORePIO is right, its an electric universe. I'm still amazed by the capture area of the Earth magnetosphere spiralling in the Suns charged particles.
Enough so we still have tectonics, volcano's and Earthquakes to this present day. Oh and affects other things I mentioned before too ;)
How can a 200 meter, piece of ice, possibly survive, for hours, as close as 140,000 kms above the surface of the sun, in 1,000,000 C coronal temperature, and still regrow a tail as it leaves the sun?
@rongrite 1st it was at 140,000 but for a few minutes. 2nd The coronal temperature is irrelevant - it has almost zero thermal capacity as its densoty is 10^15 less dense that our atmosphere. 3rd it forms an atmosphere which acts as a partial shield. 4th ice is highly reflective so will not absorb so much energy. 5th large objects heat up more slowly than small; small comets (10m) survive to a few hundred thousand km - thus was 8000 more mass - that is why I predicted that it might survive
So on that basis then you would recommend we fly in a Football Field Sized Ship made of not so reflective dusty ices for Millions of Miles toward an ever increasing source of Energy and our Spaceship would survive better than One made from Titainium covered in reflective Gold Foil?
@BrodyLuv2 Actualy yes, for 2 reasons - 1) it would survive but be very much diminished, provided the capsule was in the middle, A small metal object would not - Solar Probe is not going within 10 solar radii (7 million km) and has a carbon carbon shield to prevent the metal from melting. 2) to get passed the sun it must be going very fast which will require a very large, eliptical orbit which means a long journey and the best shield against cosmic rays is water - 10s of meters of it.
@drkstrong .. After the sun gave it an extra swing, and just started with leaving the Sun behind. - or (approximately) how much faster than when it's was approaching towards sun.
@rapidelete The Sumn would not have given it an extra swing. It is orbiting the Sun so it will have the same speed as it had incoming at the same time after preihelion as before. Only a 3rd body would either speed it up or slow it down
@007foppe A comet is made up of 3 primary parts. The Nucleus (where most of the mass is - dirty ice - usually a few 10s of meters), the Coma (the atmosphere round the nucleus - can be 100,000 km or more - mostly gas and dust) and the Tails (very tenuous gas, plasma, and dust - millions of kms)
@drkstrong I remember Hale Bopp Comet, for example has a nucleus of more than 60 miles in diameter they say. Rememder back in 1997, could be seen with the naked eye for months in the western sky and it was way out there...7.2 AU from the Sun...lol Lovejoy is being reported in Australia, just barly visable to the naked eye in the morning twilight.
@lonestarskywatcher Science is hard for them to cover - they dont know much about it and scientists usually cant explain what it is in terms of what the public can understand.
Small cool comet made of dust and ice named "Lovejoy" sundiving toward a Giant hot unforegiving sun, almost no chance of the comet surviving the encounter, but yet love and joy prevailed amazingly in the right proportions...An understanding one may need as the world plunges into 2012...What a wonderful sign to end the year...Merry Christmas...Peace!
Creates quite the dilemma for the proposed icy composition of Comet theory.
I find it nearly impossible to comprehend how this or any of these "dirty snowballs" can survive as literal "a trip through a hell" as that.
Considering it's est. size and the duration of the passage, the incredible temps this object encountered at closest proximity should have completely vaporized any water and lower density materials.
I'd say they're made of tougher stuff than "dirty ice".
@SC0RePIO Actually not. 1. The ice has a high reflectivity so reflects most of the light. 2) It is large and a large volume will melt more than a small (goes as !/R) 3) as it starts to melt the comet forms a huge, thick atmosphere around it forming an insulating layer around itself (the coma), 4) the front half may be hot but the back is pointing at deep space and is near aboslute zero (~ -270C), & 5) if it is spinning then each side will melt more slowly.
@drkstrong 1) Mission results so far show comets have ice levels far below the reflectivity needed. From all observations, they're very asteroid-like greys to black - in fact the blackest object on record is a comet.
2) As C. objects go, it wasn't that big.
3) AKA a Langmuir sheath.
4 & 5) Shine + spin shielded a dirty snowball from the most intense particle bombardment in our system & temps from -270 to a bullet-vaporizing 100,000 X hotter than lava?
I think it more likely it temporarily lost its's tail is because thier charges (Sun and comet) at that point were almost the same. Tails are not caused by evaporating ice, I mean come on people, does anyone believe ice would of survived that close encounter? Comets are asteroids on highly elliptical orbits and when out of solar system they maintain a lesser charge then when they approach the Sun. Also why some produce tails or explode out past the orbit of Jupiter.
@GaryBousquet1 You mean the one at about 3 o'clock just off the west limb & the other at 7 (SE)? Plus there are several on the disk itself
The problem is that you are looking at "beacon" data. They are highly compressed images sent back for planning purposes only. The compression is "lossy" - in fact you can see it at the edges with huge uniform pixels. When a cosmic ray hits a pixel & you try to compress the data over that same large area you get artifacts like that. The science data is OK.
I was hoping that someone my know or would like to speculate as to what the objects are that keep appearing around the sun. If you click each of these jpg you will see them.I have been seeing them and have become very curious and I have seen many YouTube videos on them but no answers.
@KungFatty I suppose that is better than Lovejoy (except Mt Lovejoy is going to get irked by the fact that he discovered it so has the right to name it)
It looks as though there is a wake forming ahead of the comet. Do you think this is a camera artifact or is this being caused by the solar atmosphere?
Hello Dr. I am just wondering here; has this comet the size of a "planet"? This thing is huge! Did it disturb the sun's magnetic field &/or created a forced CME of colossal size? Did it cause any significant damage or change? Phenomenal event!
@drkstrong It still amazes me the magnitude of the chemical reaction the sun provokes on such a small object. Simply amazing indeed. Thanks again for your enlightening answers as usual... Have a nice day.
I just noticed another faint comet in the LASCO-C2 images at 00:00 UT on the 17th, you can see it appear just above the 2 on the 12 of the date stamp,(2011/12/17) lower left...dose it count as the fourth for this group? They said we could see even bigger ones or more like Lovejoy in the near future. Maybe getting close to the main stream? Who knows, but sure is cool...can only hope to see more big ones..lol..but sure them are far and few between.
@TheComingEvents2012 No, it cant hit the Earth as you saw the comet came from below (S) the middle of the sun (the ecliptic by definition) and is heading back that way so the plane of its orbit is different from that of the Earth.
I knew you couldn't last that long without putting something out, Doc.Lovejoy managed to interrupt your build up to the Christmas stupor then. Spectacular video and commentary. Thank you. Be well. ;-))
1. How do you know the whole comet is electrically neutral?
2. If the H2O tail is electrically neutral up until it gets very close to the sun, how come we see the tail pointing AWAY from the sun tens of millions of miles away? Because it should not be influenced by the solar wind.
@topaz84 We know comets are electrically neurtal because it has been measured by the spacecraft which have visited comets. Some of the tenuous gases around them are a plasma but are electrically neutral too.
Remember for every positive charge in the unierse there is a matching negative charge nearby and visa versa.
@drkstrong I could not find any refference to a neutral charge of comets, could you provide a name for a spaceprobe that showed this? Perhaps a research paper? If the H2O tail is electrically neutral up until it gets very close to the sun, how come we see the tail pointing AWAY from the sun even from tens of millions of miles away? Remember: being neutral it should NOT be directed by the solar wind.
@topaz84 Why would any body write about objects not being charged - that would apply to most objects in the universe. The news would be if they found it charged - I see no papers on that. as I pointed out the solar wind is an electrically neutral plasma and a great conductor anything that charges would be neutralized rather quickly. Light pressure and the outflow of particles from the sun (the solar wind) push dust and gas into the tail.
I have searched the web...and found no explanation on the comet's tail...then I checked out your video...makes a great deal of sense. Thanks for sharing the info..Its like a Christmas gift...lol..Peace!
@collapseprep101 It was a pretty remarkable event, wasn't it? Pretty easy matterial to work with hopefully 2012 will provide more and better. Happy Holidays to you and yours
@DrakenI78 I unspammed you comment. Its path (orbit) is about the Sun so a close approach to the Sun wont change its path while a sufficient mass stays intact. It would change if affected by passing close to some other object like one of the planets.
I always thought it would be fun to have a large comet come in and whisk by the Earth or venus and put it into an orbit in th einner solar system soo we would have a permanent comet display (at least while it lasted).
im having trouble visualising the size of the comet, and what has been displayed by soho/stereo,The comet appears to be huge, yet we are told , its the size of a few football fields, By visual data, the size of the object passing by the sun, was phenonemly large, as large as the likes of jupiter which we have seen wander across the visual data in previous months , if the comet was in reality, only a ffotball field or so in size, why has it shown up so large?(no just the tail, but the head also
@cdbfort Comets are made up of 3 parts. A nucleus of ice (a dirty snowball), a coma a surrounding atmosphere of vapourized ice, and a tail (actually several tails) which is the debris being pushed away from the comet by the suns radiation, solar wind and magnetic field.
The size the 200 M is that of the neucleus. The thing you are seing is the coma and the tail(s)
@drkstrong thanks for that info. I still hodl to the theroy, that any of that object, including debris which are in part dirty ice,and various gases, would heva been vaporised by the heat, ( I realsie the tail diminished, but not the actual nucleus,) that is stillan odd occurence. I note the speed with which this object travelled at, I have not witnessed such speed before. thanks for your informative works.
H2O is not neutral ... rub a balloon and then bring it in close to running water from a tap like in your kitchen ... the water is pulled toward the balloon and away from it's normal falling path. Friction, which is being caused by the comet as it goes around the sun would have a huge effect on H20 and also H O
@TheGrowingAwareness Yes, it is. You are introducing an induced charge by bringing the charge on the balloon. It will produce the opposite charge on the water (or any other object).
@drkstrong Ok, I agree with that statement, however, the sun is introducing as well ... there is more friction between that object and the sun then there ever could be between the water and the balloon. That is my only point. It becomes charged. But that is not what you were speaking of, you were saying H2O is neutral, and, well, I misunderstood and was in error, you are correct, it is neutral.
@TheGrowingAwareness The difference is that the solar wind is a perfectly conductive medium (being a plasma) so a charge, say from friction, cant last for long as it will be neutralized relatively quickly by a nearby ion or electron.
Only when the neutral atoms are continuously bombarded by ionizing light like UV will the charge remain longenough to retard the forward motion of the particles. This happens when the comet is closest to the sun (inverse square effect).
@WhackTheWax No, I have mentioned this before when we have seen old comet tails drifting away from the Sun in a direction different from the comet itself.
@drkstrong was the reason Elenin wasnt a sun grazer, because it had started to disentgrate before getting close to the sun, as well as its path being on a farther trajectory than lovejoy?
@cdbfort Yes, Elenin was not a member of the Kreutz family of Sungrazing comets. It never got inside Mercury's orbit. It disintegrated because its structure was unstable (loose) so it just fell to bits once the ice holding its parts together melted.
Could this be one of the stars that on the next pass hit the earth or the moon? as the Bible prophecy said 2 stars will come down from heaven?thanks Kieth
So much for your vacation Kieth, what is your hypothasis on the sun progressing through the super giants, even yesturday i watched a huge comet enter the sky, and not a shooting star which we have all seen. i watched it burn up with a huge white smoke trail and right next to it a black trail, please forgive my spelling, but you know what im saying? you know you love it!!!
@vyperius They usually do evaporate away - however the bigger they are the more mass that have wrt surface area. Also if the ice were clean enough then it would have high reflectivity.
There is a good chance this may have been the theorized and much discussed antimatter comet. An antimatter comet would have an incredible mass in a relatively small size and therefore could survive a trip around the sun's million degree temperatures. Go to Google scholar and type in antimatter comets. You'll get over 1,700 results. Fascinating subject indeed.
@drkstrong It was probably pretty small actually, it only seemed big because of its large mass and interaction with the sun. It could be the size of a tennis ball and have the mass of a moon. How come we have known about Elenin since 2010 but we only heard about the largest sun grazing comet ever witnessed a few days before it put on its huge show? Was it impossible to see until it started reacting with the sun?
@hereitcomesskippy Thsis was much smaller than Elenin which is not a sungrazer. This was very large for a sungrazer (which only have been regularly observed since 1980 - Solar Max CP instrument) - about 100 to 200 m where as Elenin was estimated to be 4 km across (20 times bigger) - the larest comet nucleii known are tens of km. So Elenin was small by comparison
@drkstrong Norm Hansen says that comets are antimatter. At April 2002 joint meeting of American Physical Society and American Astronomical Society, he announced the discovery that comets are natural sources of antimatter: one of the greatest discovery since mankind discovered fire. He also identified that antimatter sungrazer comets are colliding with the Sun and producing enormous sunspots and solar storms.
think we have gone pasted this ??? bigger things to think about survival
moonshadowrising 2 weeks ago
@moonshadowrising I posted it in December so dont understand the comment. Please clarify
drkstrong 2 weeks ago
@Kalohux Perhaps because I am? Sorry I wont let it happen again (at least until the next time)! :)
drkstrong 1 month ago
awesome music! always a great selection on your channel. thanks for the upload
hela113 2 months ago
@hela113 Thanks, Happy New Year!
drkstrong 2 months ago
Comets don't have long pointed arms coming out of each side that go in and out ...in one of the many video's from the NASA SOHO images/videos that has not been edited you can see that those get longer and then get shorter(going in and out) A comet is not something like that.... ???? I have no idea WHAT it is...but seems like that is something that has been created by someone... ???
xSweet1o1x 2 months ago
@xSweet1o1x That is a classic comet. The "arms" are where the comet got so bright that the detector saturated and the excess charge leaked to adjectent pixels in the read direction of the detector (E-W). The apparent pulsing happens as the image of the comet moves on the detector sharing the charge between 1, 2, 4 or even 9 pixels. If the arms get very long, if 9 very short.
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong No they literally mechanically move in and out..its not like they are sometimes shorter and sometimes longer....while its flying through the air they go in an out constantly....but most of the videos have been altered. (but not all because I have a couple saved that plainly shows it)
xSweet1o1x 1 month ago
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xSweet1o1x 1 month ago
@xSweet1o1x What move in and out? And what has been altered? and Why?
drkstrong 1 month ago
Resistance is futile! lmao
purplishhue 2 months ago
Thanks for explaining that. It was very concerning. No giant cube coming to get us..that's good. lol
MsTeaRex 2 months ago
A nanu second before the comet comes out there is a pixel looking cube that forms just below the comet right next to the red circle. If you could slow it down between 1:40 and 1:45 it would be more visible. In the mean time I will look for the video that I saw it in on another channel.
MsTeaRex 2 months ago
@MsTeaRex OK I see what you are refering to. Remember this is what is called Beacon data - ie highly compressed images which means that some imaging information is lost. When there is a bright object in a single pixel like a cosmic ray the compression algorithm cant handle it and when reconstructed you get all sorts of weird shapes. This is such an instance.
drkstrong 2 months ago
Cube appears @ 1:45
MsTeaRex 2 months ago
@MsTeaRex BORG
baalisgod666 2 months ago
Did you notice the "cube" right before the comet emerges from the other side? Kind of lower right had side. Check it out and see if you can get a close up.
MsTeaRex 2 months ago
@MsTeaRex I dont see anything out of the ordinary. Exact time, distance from left and bottom?
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong This is a new feature. everytime it seems you make a comment the video pops up in the subscription new videos. do you have a setting on updates on comments even though they are not our directed comment. I keep getting your holiday video showing back up and this one did again because of mstearex. while I enjoy your videos it gets redundant seeing the same video, just wondering if you knew anything about this. Merry Christmas.
34sunbunpart2 2 months ago
@34sunbunpart2 I know nothing of this, it is probably and error by YouTube -they keep fiddling with the system so it works less and less reliably
drkstrong 2 months ago
Hehe, I KNEW you had to forestall a little bit of Christmas to announce this one Keith.
SCORePIO is right, its an electric universe. I'm still amazed by the capture area of the Earth magnetosphere spiralling in the Suns charged particles.
Enough so we still have tectonics, volcano's and Earthquakes to this present day. Oh and affects other things I mentioned before too ;)
m1aws 2 months ago
How can a 200 meter, piece of ice, possibly survive, for hours, as close as 140,000 kms above the surface of the sun, in 1,000,000 C coronal temperature, and still regrow a tail as it leaves the sun?
It sounds like something right out of Star-Trek.
rongrite 2 months ago
@rongrite 1st it was at 140,000 but for a few minutes. 2nd The coronal temperature is irrelevant - it has almost zero thermal capacity as its densoty is 10^15 less dense that our atmosphere. 3rd it forms an atmosphere which acts as a partial shield. 4th ice is highly reflective so will not absorb so much energy. 5th large objects heat up more slowly than small; small comets (10m) survive to a few hundred thousand km - thus was 8000 more mass - that is why I predicted that it might survive
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong
So on that basis then you would recommend we fly in a Football Field Sized Ship made of not so reflective dusty ices for Millions of Miles toward an ever increasing source of Energy and our Spaceship would survive better than One made from Titainium covered in reflective Gold Foil?
BrodyLuv2 2 months ago
@BrodyLuv2 Actualy yes, for 2 reasons - 1) it would survive but be very much diminished, provided the capsule was in the middle, A small metal object would not - Solar Probe is not going within 10 solar radii (7 million km) and has a carbon carbon shield to prevent the metal from melting. 2) to get passed the sun it must be going very fast which will require a very large, eliptical orbit which means a long journey and the best shield against cosmic rays is water - 10s of meters of it.
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong Thanks for your responses.
i was really beginning to wonder what the sensible explanations could be.
hmm, Ice as a heat shield...
rongrite 2 months ago
That is not a comet...
xSweet1o1x 2 months ago
@xSweet1o1x Why? If not, what is it?
drkstrong 2 months ago
@xSweet1o1x If it is not a comet then what? A tetrahedron?
ProphetChaser 2 months ago
Anybody know the estimated speed of C/2007 E2?
rapidelete 2 months ago
@rapidelete At what point? It accelerated towards the Sun and then decelerated as it pulled away
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong .. After the sun gave it an extra swing, and just started with leaving the Sun behind. - or (approximately) how much faster than when it's was approaching towards sun.
rapidelete 2 months ago
@rapidelete The Sumn would not have given it an extra swing. It is orbiting the Sun so it will have the same speed as it had incoming at the same time after preihelion as before. Only a 3rd body would either speed it up or slow it down
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong
Didnt' you just contradict your previous comment below?
BrodyLuv2 2 months ago
@BrodyLuv2 which one? I have made several
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong ..I understand - a 3rd Body. Excellent. Thank you for the feed.
rapidelete 2 months ago
the size really must be as big as the earth or even more?
007foppe 2 months ago
@007foppe A comet is made up of 3 primary parts. The Nucleus (where most of the mass is - dirty ice - usually a few 10s of meters), the Coma (the atmosphere round the nucleus - can be 100,000 km or more - mostly gas and dust) and the Tails (very tenuous gas, plasma, and dust - millions of kms)
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong I remember Hale Bopp Comet, for example has a nucleus of more than 60 miles in diameter they say. Rememder back in 1997, could be seen with the naked eye for months in the western sky and it was way out there...7.2 AU from the Sun...lol Lovejoy is being reported in Australia, just barly visable to the naked eye in the morning twilight.
Skyywatcher88 2 months ago
Awesome video, great explanation at the end!
javonoUTube 2 months ago
@javonoUTube Thanks
drkstrong 2 months ago
What I find to be odd, is that the second comet, ahead of lovejoy never forms a tail as a comet should especially as it nears the sun
elyaye 2 months ago
@elyaye It was much smaller so the tail probably did not become visible
drkstrong 2 months ago
Lovejoy conquers all it seems!
HumaneNation 2 months ago
Wow, I don't remember seeing this on NBC news with Brian Williams....Maybe their "Making a Difference" segment preempted it....
lonestarskywatcher 2 months ago
@lonestarskywatcher Science is hard for them to cover - they dont know much about it and scientists usually cant explain what it is in terms of what the public can understand.
drkstrong 2 months ago
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Small cool comet made of dust and ice named "Lovejoy" sundiving toward a Giant hot unforegiving sun, almost no chance of the comet surviving the encounter, but yet love and joy prevailed amazingly in the right proportions...An understanding one may need as the world plunges into 2012...What a wonderful sign to end the year...Merry Christmas...Peace!
Skyywatcher88 2 months ago
Creates quite the dilemma for the proposed icy composition of Comet theory.
I find it nearly impossible to comprehend how this or any of these "dirty snowballs" can survive as literal "a trip through a hell" as that.
Considering it's est. size and the duration of the passage, the incredible temps this object encountered at closest proximity should have completely vaporized any water and lower density materials.
I'd say they're made of tougher stuff than "dirty ice".
SC0RePIO 2 months ago
@SC0RePIO Actually not. 1. The ice has a high reflectivity so reflects most of the light. 2) It is large and a large volume will melt more than a small (goes as !/R) 3) as it starts to melt the comet forms a huge, thick atmosphere around it forming an insulating layer around itself (the coma), 4) the front half may be hot but the back is pointing at deep space and is near aboslute zero (~ -270C), & 5) if it is spinning then each side will melt more slowly.
The critical one is (2) in this case
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong 1) Mission results so far show comets have ice levels far below the reflectivity needed. From all observations, they're very asteroid-like greys to black - in fact the blackest object on record is a comet.
2) As C. objects go, it wasn't that big.
3) AKA a Langmuir sheath.
4 & 5) Shine + spin shielded a dirty snowball from the most intense particle bombardment in our system & temps from -270 to a bullet-vaporizing 100,000 X hotter than lava?
Tougher stuff than dirty ice!
SC0RePIO 2 months ago
@SC0RePIO 1) Needed for what? It sheds the dust too (tail and coma)
2) It was big enough apparently. Much smaller versions make it to perigee
3) they are associated with plasmas, not an atmosphere. Any plasma formed streams out into the tail an becomes trapped in the solar magnetic field
4 & 5) Not sure where you are getting the hi temp from - 120 MK does not exist even in the core of the Sun
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong 1) To "reflect most of the light". Missions show little ice & comets are grey to black in color.
2) Those very observations contradict the theory; That so many do is evidence of a stronger composition.
3) Under such extreme conditions, why think "gases" not plasma?
4&5) Sorry, a 2 decimal place error. However, 6 digit temp ranges for that duration would still vaporize a bullet.
Do you know of anything human's have built that you think could survive the same trajectory?
SC0RePIO 2 months ago
@SC0RePIO
I think it more likely it temporarily lost its's tail is because thier charges (Sun and comet) at that point were almost the same. Tails are not caused by evaporating ice, I mean come on people, does anyone believe ice would of survived that close encounter? Comets are asteroids on highly elliptical orbits and when out of solar system they maintain a lesser charge then when they approach the Sun. Also why some produce tails or explode out past the orbit of Jupiter.
sjw40364a 2 months ago
take care
UPTHElRS 2 months ago
Thanks for uploading this video, I never got this video in my subcrptions, YT is really messing with my account
Enalpekaf 2 months ago
@Enalpekaf Perhaps unsubscribe and resubscribe. They were doing something odd with friends and subscriptions the other day probably messed up
drkstrong 2 months ago
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snorkelet 2 months ago
For example 20111218_111530_n7euB_195.jpg 11:15:30 UT
GaryBousquet1 2 months ago
@GaryBousquet1 You mean the one at about 3 o'clock just off the west limb & the other at 7 (SE)? Plus there are several on the disk itself
The problem is that you are looking at "beacon" data. They are highly compressed images sent back for planning purposes only. The compression is "lossy" - in fact you can see it at the edges with huge uniform pixels. When a cosmic ray hits a pixel & you try to compress the data over that same large area you get artifacts like that. The science data is OK.
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong yeah at 3 o'clock 4 o'clock 9 o'clock
GaryBousquet1 2 months ago
@drkstrong If you go threw all the thumbnails there are many of them in various locations
GaryBousquet1 2 months ago
Well if you go to SSC Stereo Science Center and check Stereo Behind EUVI 195 you will be able to check them
GaryBousquet1 2 months ago
@GaryBousquet1 Still need a date and time and location on the image
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong there are many frames that have them just about every frame they are there
GaryBousquet1 2 months ago
@drkstrong Do you see what im talking about yet ?
GaryBousquet1 2 months ago
Hmm won't allow me to post the link
GaryBousquet1 2 months ago
@GaryBousquet1 you need to space the h t t p :// url like .this (for example :) hope that helps).
SuperTime2Change 2 months ago
I was hoping that someone my know or would like to speculate as to what the objects are that keep appearing around the sun. If you click each of these jpg you will see them.I have been seeing them and have become very curious and I have seen many YouTube videos on them but no answers.
GaryBousquet1 2 months ago
@GaryBousquet1 Which images from what experiment at what time?
drkstrong 2 months ago
Nasa called it a phoenix after the engagement , interesting : )
KungFatty 2 months ago
@KungFatty I suppose that is better than Lovejoy (except Mt Lovejoy is going to get irked by the fact that he discovered it so has the right to name it)
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong woah so true i didnt think of that , : )
KungFatty 2 months ago
@TheEslperry No it skimmed above the surface by about 100,000 km
drkstrong 2 months ago
It looks as though there is a wake forming ahead of the comet. Do you think this is a camera artifact or is this being caused by the solar atmosphere?
DeathofSpeech 2 months ago
@DeathofSpeech Saturation of the pixels causes bleed across the read direction of the sensor - in this case E-W.
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong
I was just wondering. I recall some artifacts you've mentioned in the past due to saturation but it does make an impressive illusion.
DeathofSpeech 2 months ago
@TheEslperry
It looks as though it probably "slipped" off, like a stone skips across the surface of a pond.
DeathofSpeech 2 months ago
good work
CYBERxCRINxLOX 2 months ago
2 thumbs up as always
magnumatt34 2 months ago
cool
wormywelshdude 2 months ago
Hello Dr. I am just wondering here; has this comet the size of a "planet"? This thing is huge! Did it disturb the sun's magnetic field &/or created a forced CME of colossal size? Did it cause any significant damage or change? Phenomenal event!
incertusveritas 2 months ago
@incertusveritas The nucleus is only 200 M across - The thing that looks huge is the comets atmosphere and tail which is just gas and dust
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong It still amazes me the magnitude of the chemical reaction the sun provokes on such a small object. Simply amazing indeed. Thanks again for your enlightening answers as usual... Have a nice day.
incertusveritas 2 months ago
24-25 DECEMBER = Happy new sun to everyone!!!
This solar year may be very electric.... :)
GreekTerminator 2 months ago
electric sun................
GreekTerminator 2 months ago
Amazing! Does anyone know how may other comets have survived the sun like this?
FrontRadio 2 months ago
@FrontRadio Not many fromthe Kreutz family. Of course its parent comet did but broke up in the process.
drkstrong 2 months ago
I just noticed another faint comet in the LASCO-C2 images at 00:00 UT on the 17th, you can see it appear just above the 2 on the 12 of the date stamp,(2011/12/17) lower left...dose it count as the fourth for this group? They said we could see even bigger ones or more like Lovejoy in the near future. Maybe getting close to the main stream? Who knows, but sure is cool...can only hope to see more big ones..lol..but sure them are far and few between.
Skyywatcher88 2 months ago
@Skyywatcher88 I said there would be more to come. Probably fragments of this bigger comet.
drkstrong 2 months ago
Do you know where it's heading or the course of the object as it could be on course towards us maybe.
TheComingEvents2012 2 months ago
@TheComingEvents2012 No, it cant hit the Earth as you saw the comet came from below (S) the middle of the sun (the ecliptic by definition) and is heading back that way so the plane of its orbit is different from that of the Earth.
drkstrong 2 months ago
great vid Doc.. very enlightening.. opens up a whole new can of worms for me..
wideafukinwake 2 months ago
@wideafukinwake That's the idea! :)
drkstrong 2 months ago
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I knew you couldn't last that long without putting something out, Doc.Lovejoy managed to interrupt your build up to the Christmas stupor then. Spectacular video and commentary. Thank you. Be well. ;-))
Gruntphuttock 2 months ago
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Gruntphuttock 2 months ago
Is it Jesus?He is on the way.Rapture Soon!
moomman89 2 months ago
@moomman89 Nope, it is detector saturation.
drkstrong 2 months ago
1. How do you know the whole comet is electrically neutral?
2. If the H2O tail is electrically neutral up until it gets very close to the sun, how come we see the tail pointing AWAY from the sun tens of millions of miles away? Because it should not be influenced by the solar wind.
topaz84 2 months ago
@topaz84 We know comets are electrically neurtal because it has been measured by the spacecraft which have visited comets. Some of the tenuous gases around them are a plasma but are electrically neutral too.
Remember for every positive charge in the unierse there is a matching negative charge nearby and visa versa.
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong I could not find any refference to a neutral charge of comets, could you provide a name for a spaceprobe that showed this? Perhaps a research paper? If the H2O tail is electrically neutral up until it gets very close to the sun, how come we see the tail pointing AWAY from the sun even from tens of millions of miles away? Remember: being neutral it should NOT be directed by the solar wind.
topaz84 2 months ago
@topaz84 Why would any body write about objects not being charged - that would apply to most objects in the universe. The news would be if they found it charged - I see no papers on that. as I pointed out the solar wind is an electrically neutral plasma and a great conductor anything that charges would be neutralized rather quickly. Light pressure and the outflow of particles from the sun (the solar wind) push dust and gas into the tail.
drkstrong 2 months ago
I have searched the web...and found no explanation on the comet's tail...then I checked out your video...makes a great deal of sense. Thanks for sharing the info..Its like a Christmas gift...lol..Peace!
Skyywatcher88 2 months ago
@Skyywatcher88 Thanks
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong PS...Liking the title...Key word...CRASHES...LOL
Skyywatcher88 2 months ago
Thanks for taking time out from your holiday - much appreciated - merry xmas & happy new year to you and yours :)
Cheers Doc.
CitizenUnpluged 2 months ago
@CitizenUnpluged I could not resist. Merry Xmas
drkstrong 2 months ago
This is great reporting. You are amazing to share this with us. THANK YOU!!! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family.
Ouijeannette 2 months ago
@Ouijeannette Thanks, and to same to you :)
drkstrong 2 months ago
How groovy was that??..... o, to have eyes that REALLY see....
kus108 2 months ago
@kus108 Yep, without SDO, SOHO, and STEREO we would never have known it had happened
drkstrong 2 months ago
glad you woke up to rreport this one
PAMVAUGHN 2 months ago
@PAMVAUGHN Yawn! Back to hibernation :)
drkstrong 2 months ago
That sir is dedication,,, you are an asset to the human race,,,, Merry Christmas
p.s. that was some of the most incredible shit Ive ever seen!!!!!!
collapseprep101 2 months ago
@collapseprep101 It was a pretty remarkable event, wasn't it? Pretty easy matterial to work with hopefully 2012 will provide more and better. Happy Holidays to you and yours
drkstrong 2 months ago
@Kalohux Suggested by a young viewer
drkstrong 2 months ago
WOW !! - I knew this would wake you from your xmas slumber,great work doc
wotsgonon1 2 months ago
@wotsgonon1 Back to winter hibernation! :)
drkstrong 2 months ago
bravo Dr. K, well done!
MrDuggem 2 months ago
lol nasa really has no photo edit skills...
FreedomRebel 2 months ago
@FreedomRebel Thats me, not NASA
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong no no not your vid edit skills...i mean nasa adding comet trails...they did it before
FreedomRebel 2 months ago
@FreedomRebel Please explain what they are adding (BTW if you are talking about the LASCO data it is not NASA but NRL that the data comes from)
drkstrong 2 months ago
wow
neutrino422 2 months ago
nice gift was unexpected this post TY
mertronable 2 months ago
@drstrong my question on this is that lovejoy survive his close approach with our SUN, his path will be the same? or has change somehow?
DrakenI78 2 months ago
@DrakenI78 I unspammed you comment. Its path (orbit) is about the Sun so a close approach to the Sun wont change its path while a sufficient mass stays intact. It would change if affected by passing close to some other object like one of the planets.
I always thought it would be fun to have a large comet come in and whisk by the Earth or venus and put it into an orbit in th einner solar system soo we would have a permanent comet display (at least while it lasted).
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong can believe YT took my comment as Spam (shaking head) ...btw thanks for the reply and unspammed my comment.
DrakenI78 2 months ago
@DrakenI78 It sometimes happens when you repost an edited comment that you had withdrawn or cancelled.
drkstrong 2 months ago
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DrakenI78 2 months ago
Good info ,keep up the Great work
jerzeydolphins 2 months ago
im having trouble visualising the size of the comet, and what has been displayed by soho/stereo,The comet appears to be huge, yet we are told , its the size of a few football fields, By visual data, the size of the object passing by the sun, was phenonemly large, as large as the likes of jupiter which we have seen wander across the visual data in previous months , if the comet was in reality, only a ffotball field or so in size, why has it shown up so large?(no just the tail, but the head also
cdbfort 2 months ago
@cdbfort Comets are made up of 3 parts. A nucleus of ice (a dirty snowball), a coma a surrounding atmosphere of vapourized ice, and a tail (actually several tails) which is the debris being pushed away from the comet by the suns radiation, solar wind and magnetic field.
The size the 200 M is that of the neucleus. The thing you are seing is the coma and the tail(s)
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong thanks for that info. I still hodl to the theroy, that any of that object, including debris which are in part dirty ice,and various gases, would heva been vaporised by the heat, ( I realsie the tail diminished, but not the actual nucleus,) that is stillan odd occurence. I note the speed with which this object travelled at, I have not witnessed such speed before. thanks for your informative works.
cdbfort 2 months ago
Other then that, great video
TheGrowingAwareness 2 months ago
H2O is not neutral ... rub a balloon and then bring it in close to running water from a tap like in your kitchen ... the water is pulled toward the balloon and away from it's normal falling path. Friction, which is being caused by the comet as it goes around the sun would have a huge effect on H20 and also H O
TheGrowingAwareness 2 months ago
@TheGrowingAwareness Yes, it is. You are introducing an induced charge by bringing the charge on the balloon. It will produce the opposite charge on the water (or any other object).
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong Ok, I agree with that statement, however, the sun is introducing as well ... there is more friction between that object and the sun then there ever could be between the water and the balloon. That is my only point. It becomes charged. But that is not what you were speaking of, you were saying H2O is neutral, and, well, I misunderstood and was in error, you are correct, it is neutral.
TheGrowingAwareness 2 months ago
@TheGrowingAwareness The difference is that the solar wind is a perfectly conductive medium (being a plasma) so a charge, say from friction, cant last for long as it will be neutralized relatively quickly by a nearby ion or electron.
Only when the neutral atoms are continuously bombarded by ionizing light like UV will the charge remain longenough to retard the forward motion of the particles. This happens when the comet is closest to the sun (inverse square effect).
drkstrong 2 months ago
Welcome back
1canadianprepper 2 months ago
@1canadianprepper This was a one off (until the next M flare or CME)
drkstrong 2 months ago
That's amazing, it looked huge. :)
Valthepixie 2 months ago
@Valthepixie Well I estimated that the length of the tail was at least 6 million km, allowing for th eperspective probaly twice that.
drkstrong 2 months ago
Did it go through the sun?? It looked like that to me..
drumer4u 2 months ago
@drumer4u No it skimmed above the surface at a distance of about 100,000 km.
drkstrong 2 months ago
the tail description is cooler than the comet itself. I hope you didn't just make that up (teehee)
WhackTheWax 2 months ago
@WhackTheWax No, I have mentioned this before when we have seen old comet tails drifting away from the Sun in a direction different from the comet itself.
drkstrong 2 months ago
maybe the info richard hoaglund repeated about three following elenin WAS true LOL
pyramonitor 2 months ago
@pyramonitor Only problem is that htese 3 were not following Elenin. Elenin was not a Sun Grazer.
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong was the reason Elenin wasnt a sun grazer, because it had started to disentgrate before getting close to the sun, as well as its path being on a farther trajectory than lovejoy?
cdbfort 2 months ago
@cdbfort Yes, Elenin was not a member of the Kreutz family of Sungrazing comets. It never got inside Mercury's orbit. It disintegrated because its structure was unstable (loose) so it just fell to bits once the ice holding its parts together melted.
drkstrong 2 months ago
Could this be one of the stars that on the next pass hit the earth or the moon? as the Bible prophecy said 2 stars will come down from heaven?thanks Kieth
DestiniesRUS 2 months ago
@DestiniesRUS Nope this one acnt hit the earth Either - wrong plane for the orbit - note they come from and go to the south of th eecliptic
drkstrong 2 months ago
So much for your vacation Kieth, what is your hypothasis on the sun progressing through the super giants, even yesturday i watched a huge comet enter the sky, and not a shooting star which we have all seen. i watched it burn up with a huge white smoke trail and right next to it a black trail, please forgive my spelling, but you know what im saying? you know you love it!!!
DestiniesRUS 2 months ago
the suns a star gate
smiles1969able 2 months ago
@smiles1969able Why? Who would want to visit here - not worth the energy it would take.
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong the sun is the energy theres still alot of good here
smiles1969able 2 months ago
How could a comet survive such a close encounter doc? Surely all the ice would boil away?
vyperius 2 months ago
@vyperius They usually do evaporate away - however the bigger they are the more mass that have wrt surface area. Also if the ice were clean enough then it would have high reflectivity.
drkstrong 2 months ago
There is a good chance this may have been the theorized and much discussed antimatter comet. An antimatter comet would have an incredible mass in a relatively small size and therefore could survive a trip around the sun's million degree temperatures. Go to Google scholar and type in antimatter comets. You'll get over 1,700 results. Fascinating subject indeed.
hereitcomesskippy 2 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy An antimatter comet would take out most of the solar system if it were that big and it got anywhere near the Sun
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong It was probably pretty small actually, it only seemed big because of its large mass and interaction with the sun. It could be the size of a tennis ball and have the mass of a moon. How come we have known about Elenin since 2010 but we only heard about the largest sun grazing comet ever witnessed a few days before it put on its huge show? Was it impossible to see until it started reacting with the sun?
hereitcomesskippy 2 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy Thsis was much smaller than Elenin which is not a sungrazer. This was very large for a sungrazer (which only have been regularly observed since 1980 - Solar Max CP instrument) - about 100 to 200 m where as Elenin was estimated to be 4 km across (20 times bigger) - the larest comet nucleii known are tens of km. So Elenin was small by comparison
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong Norm Hansen says that comets are antimatter. At April 2002 joint meeting of American Physical Society and American Astronomical Society, he announced the discovery that comets are natural sources of antimatter: one of the greatest discovery since mankind discovered fire. He also identified that antimatter sungrazer comets are colliding with the Sun and producing enormous sunspots and solar storms.
hereitcomesskippy 2 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy Norm needs to drink less and watch what he is smoking
drkstrong 2 months ago
@drkstrong it sure would
in8chro 2 months ago
@hereitcomesskippy i believe anti matter's life span is so incredibly short that it wouldnt last longer than a second in even a perfect environment.
in8chro 2 months ago
Wow! Dr. Lovejoy....looked like some fertilization tape in sex ed! LOL!
Blazenresearcher 2 months ago
@Blazenresearcher I think some people have an overactive imagination! :)
drkstrong 2 months ago