now just imagine if the gun upgrade was successful and it was modified to have sloping armor, would have been able to counter other medium tanks and been way cheaper than the pz 4
@fuggsakes The reason why this didn't happen was because the Panzer III reached the limit of it's design. It could not handle a gun bigger than 50mm (it could only use a 75mm gun that was short, not long), nor could you just change the armor to being sloped. Then it would be an entirely new tank all together because you'd need a new hull. Because of this the Germans decided to change the III into an infantry support tank, which had been the IVs job, and change the IV into their MBT.
@PkayerZxz2 the panzer 3/4 idea, of mixing parts and designing a new sloped superstructure, would have worked well. Though, from what I gather, they wanted to use 3 per side of the Panzer 4 suspension bogie, which would have been pretty dumb (leaf springs aren't exactly the best for offroad use. Reliable and capable of a heavy load, yes, but they suck for anything with high speed use. Why the Panzer IV was usually very, very slow offroad).
@khanbaliq i dont Admire Nazis infact thanks to them some of my relatives died in russian (am half german) am just showing that germans arent stupid and that their smarters then you
@jasincl Also note that the few tank to tank major battles of WWII mostly saw Panzer IVs in use. even after their 80mm upgrade, the 75 still got through them at 800 meters. Panzer IV could still, however, take the Sherman down at about a thousand meters. 76 variant, now having an actual need on the battlefield, was making its field day (something most historians forget). 76 M1 guns tore through Tigers at over 1,600 meters, Panthers at 1,400 meters and Panzer IVs beyond 1,800 meters.
@khanbaliq oh.... so explain me why the Leopard is superior to the Abrams explain why the King Tiger is better (but slower) then the pershing explain me why the Panzer IV is better then the M4 Sherman....
@jasincl Hell no! King Tiger was the greatest disaster besides the Tiger itself. Slow, fragile and unreliable, extremely costly and absolutely useless and easy to flank even with the Sherman armed with a 75. As for the Leopard? Hah! Abrams has better fire control, much better armor and is equal in just about everything else. Only problem is the weight. Besides that? I'd love to see the Leopard's side stowed ammo go OFF.
@jasincl Panzer IV was much more useless than the Sherman. When the Sherman came out, they built two models. The infantry model, that was better at shelling enemy positions with the well-known 75mm M3 gun, and an anti tank model, featuring the almost unknown 76mm M1 gun. The 75 was good enough in the early days of 1942 to slaughter just about everything at over a thousand meters Germany had (Panzer III had 51mms, Panzer IV 45mms in F.2 model.)
imagine the savagery inside the tank when a shell penetrates armor and goes off inside... guts and burn skin gallore.ww2 was insane in it's brutality... what do you really think those huge chunks of metal deliver?
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BaileyLottiewe774 1 month ago
panzer III and IV was the best until the t-34/76 or t-34/85
megabootyfan 2 months ago
interesting tidbit on the 50mm gun thing with hitler and the projected consequences. what if?
fesbahn 3 months ago
@khanbaliq 5 year americunt
barraki150 6 months ago
now just imagine if the gun upgrade was successful and it was modified to have sloping armor, would have been able to counter other medium tanks and been way cheaper than the pz 4
fuggsakes 8 months ago
@fuggsakes The reason why this didn't happen was because the Panzer III reached the limit of it's design. It could not handle a gun bigger than 50mm (it could only use a 75mm gun that was short, not long), nor could you just change the armor to being sloped. Then it would be an entirely new tank all together because you'd need a new hull. Because of this the Germans decided to change the III into an infantry support tank, which had been the IVs job, and change the IV into their MBT.
PkayerZxz2 6 months ago
@PkayerZxz2 the panzer 3/4 idea, of mixing parts and designing a new sloped superstructure, would have worked well. Though, from what I gather, they wanted to use 3 per side of the Panzer 4 suspension bogie, which would have been pretty dumb (leaf springs aren't exactly the best for offroad use. Reliable and capable of a heavy load, yes, but they suck for anything with high speed use. Why the Panzer IV was usually very, very slow offroad).
redreaper2020 4 months ago
i love ww2 tanks! tnx for upload !
JBulDesign 10 months ago
building a model of the Panzer III ausf m soon
JimbobHarrigan1984 1 year ago
@khanbaliq i dont Admire Nazis infact thanks to them some of my relatives died in russian (am half german) am just showing that germans arent stupid and that their smarters then you
jasincl 1 year ago
@jasincl Also note that the few tank to tank major battles of WWII mostly saw Panzer IVs in use. even after their 80mm upgrade, the 75 still got through them at 800 meters. Panzer IV could still, however, take the Sherman down at about a thousand meters. 76 variant, now having an actual need on the battlefield, was making its field day (something most historians forget). 76 M1 guns tore through Tigers at over 1,600 meters, Panthers at 1,400 meters and Panzer IVs beyond 1,800 meters.
Tyco200 3 months ago
@khanbaliq oh.... so explain me why the Leopard is superior to the Abrams explain why the King Tiger is better (but slower) then the pershing explain me why the Panzer IV is better then the M4 Sherman....
jasincl 1 year ago
@jasincl Hell no! King Tiger was the greatest disaster besides the Tiger itself. Slow, fragile and unreliable, extremely costly and absolutely useless and easy to flank even with the Sherman armed with a 75. As for the Leopard? Hah! Abrams has better fire control, much better armor and is equal in just about everything else. Only problem is the weight. Besides that? I'd love to see the Leopard's side stowed ammo go OFF.
Tyco200 3 months ago
@jasincl Panzer IV was much more useless than the Sherman. When the Sherman came out, they built two models. The infantry model, that was better at shelling enemy positions with the well-known 75mm M3 gun, and an anti tank model, featuring the almost unknown 76mm M1 gun. The 75 was good enough in the early days of 1942 to slaughter just about everything at over a thousand meters Germany had (Panzer III had 51mms, Panzer IV 45mms in F.2 model.)
Tyco200 3 months ago
thanks for correction
Rico8458 1 year ago
thanks for sharing these docu´s .-D
bmbpdk 1 year ago
"Hitler's words were not always law"......some of the German Generals stood up to the man and ignored him.
amartinjoe 1 year ago
@amartinjoe that's why they were executed or courted..........
KISSTrooper01 1 year ago
imagine panthers and tigers in north africa. wow.
Rico8458 1 year ago
@Rico8458 the tigers WAS in DAK (Deutsche Afrika Korps)
bmbpdk 1 year ago
@Rico8458 The Tiger got to Tunisia i dont know the panther though :/
jasincl 1 year ago
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Rico8458 1 year ago
imagine the savagery inside the tank when a shell penetrates armor and goes off inside... guts and burn skin gallore.ww2 was insane in it's brutality... what do you really think those huge chunks of metal deliver?
12GaugeLosAngeles 2 years ago
their good at what they do though--being tanks
erich10001 2 years ago
you suck big time,sucker
MrAsifkhanniaziofpak 2 years ago
I love the panzer III especially the Ausf. L version with the turret box and 50mm. Its gorgeous!
SPLCr137 2 years ago 8
@SPLCr137 I like the Panzer III with 75mm!
ShermanFireflyAce 10 months ago
My favourite is the N model with the short barreled 75mm gun. : )
But I like all the models of the Panzer III
Its a state of the art tank.
Mutton78 1 week ago
victory is everything
88Thyra 2 years ago
So much work to build just one tank.
All this effort and the end results for Germany was that it lay in ruins.
Too bad Germany didn't just focus on it's defense and industry.
xenophobephoto 2 years ago 2
Fitted with a door knocker lol
Jagdtoq 3 years ago 3
Thanks for uploading. I really like these VAF documentaries. They are very informative and stand above all others.
aloxited 3 years ago 10
widescreeeen, oh its not :) nice upload
elvee88 3 years ago
Lol
thanx =D
Leandrojaques 3 years ago
EVERYTHING is in this format now, view any vid!
spritz0 3 years ago
no shit sherlock
elvee88 3 years ago
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marjis3 1 year ago