At the RPMs shown in this video is it possible to stop this engine by a man's hand? Not a very normal question, but still a question! XD XD I just don't have any sensibility to understand how much power a human hand can make to stop an engine (in general terms, of course)... In this particular case I'm asking because the engine is working with low rpm so... could it be possible?
I looked on ebay to find an old compressor because id like to do somthing like this. I could not find much on there where do you get yours?...ebay...lol....I found one at a thrift shop, they put my name on it so that they could have someone price it, and then someone stole it...how nice. It would have been perfect, that was about 6 months ago, im still holding a grudge to it, its just one of those stupid things that doesn't matter that much but really bothers you. oh well
Love the engine man!!! ?These engines are scarce as hens teeth. and you either need to know a good machinest or be one, to keep them going... Great to see an alternate that uses modern stuff!!! To the youngsters who make negative comments... A people who don't know where they come from have no future.... Some of you have no future... You people are sad indeed. Go back to your nintendo, which will be obsolete in a month, like you will be. buh-bye
my hat comes off to you Sir... your hit & miss is a work of art, i'm thoroughly impressed and amazed........... i feel sorry for all the kids out there that don't know what a hit and miss is and then leave negative comments on your video expecting to see a DOHC 4 valve per cylinder super charged nitro burning V-8 hemi
Do you have plans for converting a compressor into an engine? There are good things about this type of project: 1 recycle, 2 reuse, 3 most of the hard work is done as there seems to be no major machining involved. Well done!
How long did this take? Would you say it runs as reliable as any other engine? Is it a durrable as other engines? I'm just wondering, but imo great job.
A hit and miss engine fires only when needed to maintain a speed. The intake valve is what is called a "poppet" valve, in that it's opened by the vacuum of the piston moving toward the bottom. The exhaust valve is forced open by spinning weights to prevent compression from slowing the engine. When the exhaust closes, the vacuum is created to open the intake, and therefore, fire the engine. Pretty awesome design for ~1910 I'd say.
Hit and miss engines use less fuel when idling, so why aren't they built anymore? In fact people consume alot more gas just by letting their car engine idle when their stopped in the middle of the city transit.
i think they have a Governor of some kind that mechanically measures the speed of the engine (like the traditional swing ball governors on a steam engine). when the engine gets below a certain speed it engages the ignition and valve system and it fires the engine again, which increases the speed of the engine and stops it stalling... its primarily to save fuel i would guess....
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you dip shit hit and missed dont leave the exhaust valve open and the governor does control the engine speed and under load its all one device ya fuckk
just to let you know a hit and miss engine does leave the exhaust valve open to "Freewheel" until another power stroke is needed then the exhaust valve will close causing a full 4-stroke cycle. unless you were talking of a different motor when u said Hit & Missed?
no, hit/miss engines dont have carburetors so they have a governor that will hold the exhaust valve open until it goes down to a certain speed and then it will close and fire again, its not like todays small engines that you can speed up and slow down at will, these are meant to run stationary usually at one speed.
that all depends on what its on, if its on something that it doesnt have enough power for then it will be firing all the time trying to keep up, but usually it will still have a few miss cycles in there
hit and miss never had carburetors, they were called hit and miss because they had no other way of controlling engine speed other than to hold the exhaust valve open thus causing a "miss". there are large flywheel engines that are throttle governed with a carburetor, but they're not considered hit and miss because they have a controlled flow of gas so they don't need to "miss" every few strokes in order to not speed out of control.
governors don't control the speed of the engine, they control either the exhaust valve on a hit and miss engine and on a carbureted engine they control the throttle, but hit and miss engines are not throttle governed, they are governed by the exhaust valve staying open thus creating the "miss" to keep it at a proper speed, the later flywheel engines had carburetors and they would generally hit every time, the throttle would maintain the speed
also adding to my last comment, a hit and miss engine uses what is called a check valve which is basically a needle valve that allows fuel into the engine, they also have what is called a mixer which is a small air valve regulating the air flow that goes into the engine to keep it from running rich or lean. this is different from a carburetor because they didn't have any way to really regulate the fuel control enough to eliminate the need for the "miss" at at period in time
@motox458 OK dude your still wrong. carburetors dont control speed, the throttle butterfly or slide usualy built into a carb does. A carb is a device that mixes air and fuel to the correct ratio for combustion not a device for controlling speed, if you take a throttle butterfly controled carb and remove the throttle butterfly and plug the throttle jet in the carb the engine will sit and run at idle although a very high idle and at a lean conditon but a constant speed none the less.
i never said carburetors controlled the speed, i said the speed is controlled either by holding the exhaust valve open creating the miss, or by a carburetor with a throttle, hit and miss engines have what is called a check valve to control the air/gas ratio which is a very simplified version of a carburetor, but its still not a carburetor and the speed is controlled by a governor holding the exhaust valve open
you must have a loose grasp on the english language because you said "throttle governed by the carburetor" this statment implies that your definition of carburetor means only carburetors with built in throttle. and it dosnt matter how simple a carb is its still a carb. I know the english language is difficult to understand when you only have a second grade education.
go check your punctuation jackass. because in your orignal statment of "throttle governed with a carburetor" by and with are interchangable with that punctuation being used. If you change the punctuation "throttle governed, with a carburetor" with and by are no longer interchangable. Stop trying to backpedal and learn to master the english language.
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Fair job. Maybe turn cylinder 90 degrees for whatever gravity assist or reduction of impedance might exist, and add more flywheel. It ain't hit and miss if you have to keep your hand on it.
Hit & Miss engines were used as power plants on farms prior to and up to the mid 1940's before power lines were available in remote areas. They were steady running and reliable for the time. You could put a leather belt on the flywheel and run a water pump, a Saw, generaator,or even a washing machine!
You're joking right? getting them to run slow (with no load) is key to the economy of this design. No fuel is used during the 'miss' phase. (Exhaust valve open, no compression, no suction, no fuel!) it only draws fuel, and fires, when needed. Old tech., and it will make a comeback!
@av8navig8, i had to remove that comment, i dont want people looking at me as a moron, i understand how they work now, i actually figured that out not long after i posted the comment, i feel like such a moron putting that on there.
Nice! I've seen a similar mod job at the Cumberlan Valley Antique Engine Assn's Steam & Gas show, however the guy who made the engine machined a new, longer crankshaft, so his engine would have 2 flywheels, as would be more typical for a Hit 'n' Miss engine....
I'd like to get my own Hit 'n' Miss, but I may settle for buying a kit to build a 1/4 scale model of one of the reid engines instead.
I would refer you to "Flywheelfarm" (on youtube) He is the genius behind this engine. Search the name, he has many engine vids, and my bet is, he would be happy to help.
Hi Jack, (couldnt resist) the fuel is regular gas, the tank is in a hollow spot under the the crankcase. (copper tube from tank to mixer), crankcase oil is above that. Runs all day on a quart of gas! Credit goes to "flywheelfarm" (youtube) for making this one.
is there a way to install this motor on my scooter?
BradleySuarez 1 month ago
At the RPMs shown in this video is it possible to stop this engine by a man's hand? Not a very normal question, but still a question! XD XD I just don't have any sensibility to understand how much power a human hand can make to stop an engine (in general terms, of course)... In this particular case I'm asking because the engine is working with low rpm so... could it be possible?
olemac20 1 month ago
how did you make this? i have an old air compressor too but how do i convert it
SthealthRaider 2 months ago
this would be great for my 18ft sailboat, but throttle it up for travel and let it hit n' miss for idle
UGLandrum 3 months ago
This does not have a large enough flywheel.
A hit and miss engine should keep something of constant speed.
But there is the other half of the answer, an air compressor uses the driving motor or engine as the primary flywheel.
Another flywheel would smooth things out.
Arabhacks 5 months ago
whats powering it.
basketballdude8221 5 months ago
Ok, i understand everything except the lack of a camshaft turning half as fast as the crank, i do not see one! lol
rroberts383 6 months ago
amazing vid you made
valvesuppliers 7 months ago
wonderful creation
lolman2008112 8 months ago
woow supercool
RM250crosser 9 months ago
Sounds like a roflcopter. Nice work, you should make a set of plans.
iggy151 11 months ago
Nice work. What are you going to power with this?
stevenmorookian16 11 months ago
hi what did you use to make this engine thanks
zodaper 1 year ago
wow! cool! thanks for posting!
glasstronic 1 year ago
You should use it to run an identical model Curtiss compressor and make yourself a functioning air compressor. Would be kinda funny.
x65535x 1 year ago 10
how you made gas intake? :P
Mushketer888 1 year ago
I looked on ebay to find an old compressor because id like to do somthing like this. I could not find much on there where do you get yours?...ebay...lol....I found one at a thrift shop, they put my name on it so that they could have someone price it, and then someone stole it...how nice. It would have been perfect, that was about 6 months ago, im still holding a grudge to it, its just one of those stupid things that doesn't matter that much but really bothers you. oh well
NathansBackwoods 1 year ago
oh that is just too cool it is using centripical force when it slows down i think so it can shove a blast of air too push it faster.
walkingfreak 1 year ago
Great job.
1936jdb 1 year ago
Cool! I'd love to see the governor mechanism when engine is off.
BlakeMason2 1 year ago
Fuck the oil Company put one of those on a scooter that rolls a fat 300lbs dude around at 25mph and your a Billionaire!!!!
Medical215Patient 1 year ago
Any idea what the HP of this is? Sorry if this is posted somewhere in previous comments. Very nice work!
RickMHobson 1 year ago
damn, great job!! so the cilinder is from an air compressor? and where does it run on?
wpepie 1 year ago
Hell Yes!!
MicrotekMybisi 1 year ago
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Bamchucknorris 1 year ago
@Bamchucknorris PUPUTTPUTT shshshshshshshshshPUPUTTPUTT shshshshshshshshshhshshsh PUPUTTPUTT shshshshshshshshshshshsh PUPUTPUTPUTPUTPUTPUTPUTPUTPUT shshshshshshsh PUPUTTPUTT!!
fairyheli2 1 year ago
Love the engine man!!! ?These engines are scarce as hens teeth. and you either need to know a good machinest or be one, to keep them going... Great to see an alternate that uses modern stuff!!! To the youngsters who make negative comments... A people who don't know where they come from have no future.... Some of you have no future... You people are sad indeed. Go back to your nintendo, which will be obsolete in a month, like you will be. buh-bye
Landotter1 1 year ago
Sir,you are a genius! Well done!
axelkoster 1 year ago
what did you do take apart a old air compressor?
Hogasofa 1 year ago
What fuel does it use?
wilzchau 1 year ago
@wilzchau Probably anything compressed (:
jaryH3 1 year ago
my hat comes off to you Sir... your hit & miss is a work of art, i'm thoroughly impressed and amazed........... i feel sorry for all the kids out there that don't know what a hit and miss is and then leave negative comments on your video expecting to see a DOHC 4 valve per cylinder super charged nitro burning V-8 hemi
dirtTdude 1 year ago
Do you have plans for converting a compressor into an engine? There are good things about this type of project: 1 recycle, 2 reuse, 3 most of the hard work is done as there seems to be no major machining involved. Well done!
tezzvids1 1 year ago
How long did this take? Would you say it runs as reliable as any other engine? Is it a durrable as other engines? I'm just wondering, but imo great job.
thedarkone2134 1 year ago
i like the governor you put on the flywheel pretty cool
SaGalv 1 year ago
This is awesome! Wish I'd thought of it!
MrTrailltrader 1 year ago
This made me laugh! Great stuff!
markkragh 1 year ago
you can help me av*navig8, what is a hit and miss motor?
mikethenascarfan 1 year ago
A hit and miss engine fires only when needed to maintain a speed. The intake valve is what is called a "poppet" valve, in that it's opened by the vacuum of the piston moving toward the bottom. The exhaust valve is forced open by spinning weights to prevent compression from slowing the engine. When the exhaust closes, the vacuum is created to open the intake, and therefore, fire the engine. Pretty awesome design for ~1910 I'd say.
shinyedgestudios 1 year ago
@shinyedgestudios
Hit and miss engines use less fuel when idling, so why aren't they built anymore? In fact people consume alot more gas just by letting their car engine idle when their stopped in the middle of the city transit.
SKarmytech 1 year ago
hey where did u get the plans
Joeyad4 2 years ago
i would say he never had any... most contraptions like this come from a man's (or women's) ingenuity..
rapidrory 1 year ago
Nice machine. How do these hit&miss engines work?
lexander5 2 years ago
i was thinking the same thing, what is a hit and miss engine?
madnesscombat5 2 years ago
i think they have a Governor of some kind that mechanically measures the speed of the engine (like the traditional swing ball governors on a steam engine). when the engine gets below a certain speed it engages the ignition and valve system and it fires the engine again, which increases the speed of the engine and stops it stalling... its primarily to save fuel i would guess....
rapidrory 1 year ago
Nice work! How the heck did you get it to go? Ive been wanting to do this.
KohlerMagnum 2 years ago
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you dip shit hit and missed dont leave the exhaust valve open and the governor does control the engine speed and under load its all one device ya fuckk
joeyteamxracing 2 years ago
just to let you know a hit and miss engine does leave the exhaust valve open to "Freewheel" until another power stroke is needed then the exhaust valve will close causing a full 4-stroke cycle. unless you were talking of a different motor when u said Hit & Missed?
mholm09 2 years ago 3
is that a 4-sroke?
metalx1234 2 years ago
hahaha, that sounds hilareouse!
AussieJarred 2 years ago
how you made your carberatur?
SthealthRaider 2 years ago
And where is the air intake?
SthealthRaider 2 years ago
is it a throttle governed one??
SthealthRaider 2 years ago
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SthealthRaider 2 years ago
uerka it works lol great job man like your style one of the true pioneers ha
eatmypies 2 years ago
does any one know where i could get plans to build a hit and miss engine from???
Joeyad4 2 years ago 2
very nice
extasyq 2 years ago
It would be neat to use it to drive a compressor of the same model, pumping air.
RCFLYER83 2 years ago
so its governed?,, great job
pigeonflipper 2 years ago
How u make these?
SthealthRaider 2 years ago
if you were to put a hit miss engine on like a go-kart wouldn't it run like a regular engine since its not freewheeling
scrapkilla321 2 years ago
no, hit/miss engines dont have carburetors so they have a governor that will hold the exhaust valve open until it goes down to a certain speed and then it will close and fire again, its not like todays small engines that you can speed up and slow down at will, these are meant to run stationary usually at one speed.
motox458 2 years ago 3
ya if it was on equipment then it would fire all the time right unless it gets up to speed.
scrapkilla321 2 years ago
that all depends on what its on, if its on something that it doesnt have enough power for then it will be firing all the time trying to keep up, but usually it will still have a few miss cycles in there
motox458 2 years ago
@motox458
Some have carburetors..
SthealthRaider 2 years ago
@SthealthRaider
hit and miss never had carburetors, they were called hit and miss because they had no other way of controlling engine speed other than to hold the exhaust valve open thus causing a "miss". there are large flywheel engines that are throttle governed with a carburetor, but they're not considered hit and miss because they have a controlled flow of gas so they don't need to "miss" every few strokes in order to not speed out of control.
motox458 2 years ago
Thats very wrong, carburators dont control engine speed anyway. Governers do. Of course hit and miss engines have carburators
international660 2 years ago
governors don't control the speed of the engine, they control either the exhaust valve on a hit and miss engine and on a carbureted engine they control the throttle, but hit and miss engines are not throttle governed, they are governed by the exhaust valve staying open thus creating the "miss" to keep it at a proper speed, the later flywheel engines had carburetors and they would generally hit every time, the throttle would maintain the speed
motox458 2 years ago
actually some just draw the fuel vapors off the top of the tank
cameronfields681 2 years ago
also adding to my last comment, a hit and miss engine uses what is called a check valve which is basically a needle valve that allows fuel into the engine, they also have what is called a mixer which is a small air valve regulating the air flow that goes into the engine to keep it from running rich or lean. this is different from a carburetor because they didn't have any way to really regulate the fuel control enough to eliminate the need for the "miss" at at period in time
motox458 2 years ago
@motox458 OK dude your still wrong. carburetors dont control speed, the throttle butterfly or slide usualy built into a carb does. A carb is a device that mixes air and fuel to the correct ratio for combustion not a device for controlling speed, if you take a throttle butterfly controled carb and remove the throttle butterfly and plug the throttle jet in the carb the engine will sit and run at idle although a very high idle and at a lean conditon but a constant speed none the less.
pumpkinheadedsob 2 years ago
i never said carburetors controlled the speed, i said the speed is controlled either by holding the exhaust valve open creating the miss, or by a carburetor with a throttle, hit and miss engines have what is called a check valve to control the air/gas ratio which is a very simplified version of a carburetor, but its still not a carburetor and the speed is controlled by a governor holding the exhaust valve open
motox458 2 years ago
you must have a loose grasp on the english language because you said "throttle governed by the carburetor" this statment implies that your definition of carburetor means only carburetors with built in throttle. and it dosnt matter how simple a carb is its still a carb. I know the english language is difficult to understand when you only have a second grade education.
pumpkinheadedsob 2 years ago
heh, thats a good one coming from a pumpkinheadedsob
motox458 2 years ago
try reading more carefully, i said throttle governed, with a carburetor, implying that a throttle governed engine has a carburetor
and for god sakes, if you would read a bit you would know the difference between a hit and miss engine and a throttle governed flywheel engine
motox458 2 years ago 2
go check your punctuation jackass. because in your orignal statment of "throttle governed with a carburetor" by and with are interchangable with that punctuation being used. If you change the punctuation "throttle governed, with a carburetor" with and by are no longer interchangable. Stop trying to backpedal and learn to master the english language.
pumpkinheadedsob 2 years ago
my. punctuation? is, not/ the^point! of (this* conversation)
my point is there is a difference between a hit and miss engine and a throttle governed flywheel engine
motox458 2 years ago 12
could you show me how you did it
GundamKnight07 2 years ago
i think it's NEAT!
rickster348 2 years ago
what modern improvments can be made? Spark plug?
Axbent 2 years ago
It's got one already!
boo66 2 years ago
Hi,
Is this water or air cooled?
Great job!
steamwally 2 years ago
Air cooled, same as when it was an air compressor. The flywheel has fan shaped spokes.
av8navig8 2 years ago 2
Thanks. I supose when it only fires every 20 cycles or so it doesn't get that hot.
Cheers.
steamwally 2 years ago
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Fair job. Maybe turn cylinder 90 degrees for whatever gravity assist or reduction of impedance might exist, and add more flywheel. It ain't hit and miss if you have to keep your hand on it.
noacronym 2 years ago
Great job!!! How have you built it? Low rpm engine are more reliable. I have interest for plans
Motaro76 2 years ago
awesome,
Do you sale plans on how to do this? I would be interested. Have a great day.
lom1998 2 years ago 2
I love these hit and miss engines!
orangetide 2 years ago 2
When he put his hand in to speed up the engine, it sounds a little bit like the uzi / automatic pistol in GTA San Andreas.
Orion4442 2 years ago
I have had cars that did not run this good.
supressorgrid 2 years ago 41
was it hard to make it ??
please reply
coshyno 2 years ago
excellent job, unique ..
Wallabydam 3 years ago
Nice
vtecsux69 3 years ago
Whats the hose for?
giberish9 3 years ago
thats his exaust
animebsd 3 years ago
That's great that you could make this; nice job!
hovanti 3 years ago
lmao
prelan 3 years ago
Electronic fuel injection serves the same purpose, only it's much smoother.
gschjetne 3 years ago
Hit & Miss engines were used as power plants on farms prior to and up to the mid 1940's before power lines were available in remote areas. They were steady running and reliable for the time. You could put a leather belt on the flywheel and run a water pump, a Saw, generaator,or even a washing machine!
gwheyduke 3 years ago 2
nice system!
PierreNgo 3 years ago
It have cluth??
maquinista205 3 years ago
looks like an old air/fridge compressor?
trahcceb 3 years ago
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D342DIESEL 3 years ago
You're joking right? getting them to run slow (with no load) is key to the economy of this design. No fuel is used during the 'miss' phase. (Exhaust valve open, no compression, no suction, no fuel!) it only draws fuel, and fires, when needed. Old tech., and it will make a comeback!
av8navig8 3 years ago 14
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D342DIESEL 3 years ago
baaaaaaa
prelan 3 years ago
@av8navig8 Let's hope so... We need something to save us! I would drive a model A anywhere 35 mph... :)
MicrotekMybisi 1 year ago
@av8navig8, i had to remove that comment, i dont want people looking at me as a moron, i understand how they work now, i actually figured that out not long after i posted the comment, i feel like such a moron putting that on there.
D342DIESEL 1 year ago
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I dont think so. these engines are not too reliable. I mean sure its cool, but not practical when compared to the engines we use today.
mustangified 3 years ago
they are verry reliable engines verry good design
DRNEGOLICIS 3 years ago
Putt Putt!!
tisoy909 3 years ago 21
Nice! I've seen a similar mod job at the Cumberlan Valley Antique Engine Assn's Steam & Gas show, however the guy who made the engine machined a new, longer crankshaft, so his engine would have 2 flywheels, as would be more typical for a Hit 'n' Miss engine....
I'd like to get my own Hit 'n' Miss, but I may settle for buying a kit to build a 1/4 scale model of one of the reid engines instead.
HikaroTakayama 3 years ago
It is possible to make engine from big bore, low stroke compressor (opposite of this)? There are no curtis-like compressors in Czech republic :-(
HYPERmax9000 3 years ago
I would refer you to "Flywheelfarm" (on youtube) He is the genius behind this engine. Search the name, he has many engine vids, and my bet is, he would be happy to help.
av8navig8 3 years ago
what kind of fuel supply does the engine run on?
jack9102 4 years ago
Hi Jack, (couldnt resist) the fuel is regular gas, the tank is in a hollow spot under the the crankcase. (copper tube from tank to mixer), crankcase oil is above that. Runs all day on a quart of gas! Credit goes to "flywheelfarm" (youtube) for making this one.
av8navig8 4 years ago
GREAT!! If you want to see a vid on a small engine go to my channel(i only have one vid)
its on a ski with a rudder an everything! I'm making a modification by trying a different ski from a GT sno-racer!
jack9102 4 years ago
reminds me of my old lawnmower engine. the flywheel based governener was screwed up, and did that.
rudolphna54 4 years ago