Rhydian would be a brilliant Phantom - he would bring a strong unique interpretation to the character of Erik and would be second only to the magnificent Michael Crawford.
Not wishing to be rude but I actually think that the current phantom (Ramin Karimloo) has a far superior voice to Rhydian...and I just don't think he'd bring any depth to Erik...I wont deny he has a good voice but thats it he has nothing new to bring...but then thats just my oppinion
I have been a "phan" since the beginning of Andrew Lloyd Webber's Phantom, and have seen many Phantom's, and none of them have impressed me as much as this guy. He is amazing.
Really, you don't think so. He is a bit young, but I think he could do it. He performed the title song well as well, he has a lot of character, and with the right direction I think he's a match for the role.
I've watched this so many times and I still get goosebumps! Rhydian is performing at the Andrew Lloyd Webber concert in Hyde Park this Sunday 14th Sept. Can't wait to hear him sing with a full orchestra!
Surely he'll be chosen to play the Phantom in the sequel - Phantom in Manhattan show? :)
Rhydian with his baritone brings a darkness to this that is lacking with Josh and Crawford. Rhydian singing is 'on the edge' dangerous its very masculine. He brings to life the very Gothic essence of the Phantom! His role redefines and deepens the Phantoms character. Awesome Powerful Dangerous Genius.
You don't just get a 'rendition' with Rhydian....you get a 'performance'. There's a massive difference. There are very few singers who 'inhabit' songs like this young man does. You can tell he's 'in character' when he makes no reaction to the silly woman shouting out she wants his babies. If there's any justice in the music industry here's a superstar in waiting.
Power of.... music of the night. Rhydian commands great power that touches our souls. How wonderful would be to hear him singing it with a live orchestra! I'm sure the time will come.
Rhydian was on a very small stage with just recorded back up music, and was truly outstanding - I just can't imagine how wonderful he'll sound on a big stage with a live orchestra and good acoustics in the building! If he gets to play Phantom I'll be going dozens of times! He's got something very special about him, the whole package - the voice, the looks, the ability to transform into the character and to top it all a genuinely loveable personality - the world is his now!
My personal opinion, wilkinson sang this song very beautiful.(better than crawford)
ramin a bit similar to crawford. But rhydian like wilkinson. So l support rhydian in this song. But it's just my opinion! I think all British should be pround of this guy and support him as much as they can,he can represent your country.He still very young can do better day by day,more and more.If this guy be supported,he can perform everythig and make the fame for UK. (I am Aussie)We envy you,we don't have him.
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im sorry but i have heard much much better performances of this song, and it is not at all confirmed he is going to appear in phantom 2, simply mentioned. im sure all rhydian fans will hate me now but you should go and listen to others sing this song who can actually hit the high notes!
?! Are you kidding? I've heard so many versions of this song and always got cross cause none of them did it justice- especially crawford, he REALLY couldn't hit the high notes. Rhydian's voice is lovely and resonant.
tappers88, I would be most grateful if you could point me in the direction of these other singers, please. And are you a member of the whatsonstage forums, perchance?
I've seen & heard nearly all the others' singing for the song, but I'm afraid none as exquistive, as emotional as Rhydian's. He has superb ability to draw audiences' attention. I am not a music bluff, but truelly representing a wider public (worldwide).
wow he deffenitlly sing wow i think he is even better then the phantom in austraulla anthany warlow so when do u think rhydian will dwan the mask of the phantom?
Yeah, the second the soundtrack of Manhattan comes out I will buy it. (if I have enough money) Hmm. I wonder if he would be any good singing some Les Mis songs?
Reeal15, this guy can sing just about anything! You only have to look at the diversity of material he covered during X Factor to realise this is not only an amazing vocalist but also an incredibly versatile one. I've been trying to ananlyse just why he's so much better than other singers and I think, apart from his amazing natural vocal talent, it's due to the fact that he INHABITS songs, he doesn't merely sing them.
You're absolutely right, Bellboys. I've been trying to analyse that too. He has a way of drawing you into a song totally and keeping you riveted until it's over - even songs you don't usually like. I'm not sure anyone has ever succeeded in explaining that elusive thing called charisma, but whatever it is, he's got in bucketloads.
Well, I'm male and straight and even I find this performance absolutely mesmerising, so Lord only knows what this performance does to you ladies, LOL. He's a superstar in waiting, don't you think? And I don't think that status will be long in coming.
It's great to know that men like him too. Let's not forget that apart from being a gorgeous, sexy hunk, he also has quite a good voice! But I'm not sure where that mesmeric quality comes from, but maybe from completely throwing himself into the song?
Is this actually the sexiest moment in history - when he kisses Stephanie and takes the bouquet? I woulda gone up in flames. Amazing how he dealt so instinctively with the situation. His natural graciousness just shines through. Sorry everyone, I'm obsessed with this vid.
What a proffessional, he sings with such passion, fully immersed in character, admist so many distractions. Few, if any, singer could have produced such a stunning performance. Can not wait to see him on stage in a musical,or wait to buy his first album.
That last note lasts for NINETEEN FREAKING SECONDS!!! This man is simply awesome. Note how he deals so brilliantly with the lady bringing on the flowers too early. He's still in character right up until he's given her a kiss, slips out of character for the half smile and the 'stay' comment then straight back into character for that amazing last note. ALW is soooo going to sign this bloke for Phantom of Manhatten. I have a feeling there's a 'release clause' in his Syco contract.
This guy is just amazing. he leaves me speechless. That is by far the best performance of MotN I have ever heard. He really does need to get a part in Phantom. I'll most definitely be there cheering him on!
Colm Wilkinson used to be my favourite Phantom singer, but Rhydian has surpassed him by far! Such style, and the voice is stupendous! Can't wait to see him play the part - this performance was fantastic beyond words, so on a West End or Broadway stage will be fab fab fab!
This is some BRILLIANTISSIME performance Rhydian! Despite not so perfect conditions (a lot of background noises)... Thanks for sharing this footage. LOL.
WOW!!! This shows without a doubt his absolute brilliance... so many distractions, awful lighting, tinny music. Despite all of that he was AWESOME!!!!!
Rhydian is just amazing... If he is this good on his own, imagine how phenomenal he will be with a full cast of actors / orchestra, and live instruments in a packed auditorium... Well done Rhydian!!!
Thank you! We were there but only managed to video tiny bit of this song, and it's fantastic - can't wait to see him play the Phantom (2). Especially love the way he sings at 03:25 Wow! Lucky girl who presented him with the flowers thought he'd finished the song when she went on the stage to give him the flowers - so was treated to him singing the end of it to her!
I wish the people were listening to what he was singing...sheesh.
Simba92 1 year ago
I think he has the best voice for the phantom..vocally he is my favorite. As far as portraying the evil seductiveness, he's in the top ten.
BluefalconJAR 2 years ago
Rhydian would be a brilliant Phantom - he would bring a strong unique interpretation to the character of Erik and would be second only to the magnificent Michael Crawford.
islandgal3bon 3 years ago
Not wishing to be rude but I actually think that the current phantom (Ramin Karimloo) has a far superior voice to Rhydian...and I just don't think he'd bring any depth to Erik...I wont deny he has a good voice but thats it he has nothing new to bring...but then thats just my oppinion
WallpaperViolence 2 years ago
What a stupid bitch,and the rest of the mob should stick to bingo nights.
Aneurin1 3 years ago 4
I have been a "phan" since the beginning of Andrew Lloyd Webber's Phantom, and have seen many Phantom's, and none of them have impressed me as much as this guy. He is amazing.
jimmycurry01 3 years ago 4
He's got the voice but i don't think he could pull of the Phantoms character.
1950called 3 years ago
Really, you don't think so. He is a bit young, but I think he could do it. He performed the title song well as well, he has a lot of character, and with the right direction I think he's a match for the role.
jimmycurry01 3 years ago 5
Wow, no one even stopped chatting to listen
You can hear them in the background, mouthing away, some respect for such an awesome performer and such an awesome song
Waylander08 3 years ago 6
Yeah, What a bunch of ignorant morons.
juzzlookin 2 years ago
I've watched this so many times and I still get goosebumps! Rhydian is performing at the Andrew Lloyd Webber concert in Hyde Park this Sunday 14th Sept. Can't wait to hear him sing with a full orchestra!
Surely he'll be chosen to play the Phantom in the sequel - Phantom in Manhattan show? :)
lbshard 3 years ago
i wonder if rhydian has ever tried to perform on broadway, he could do the part pretty well i bet
footballer225 3 years ago
Rhydian with his baritone brings a darkness to this that is lacking with Josh and Crawford. Rhydian singing is 'on the edge' dangerous its very masculine. He brings to life the very Gothic essence of the Phantom! His role redefines and deepens the Phantoms character. Awesome Powerful Dangerous Genius.
HowRoger 3 years ago 5
LOL 3:12 did someone shout "I WANT YOUR BABIES!!! <3 <3" XDXDXDXDXD
<3 Rhydian Forever!!! <3
PhangirlMusician 3 years ago
If I ever meet the girl who shouted that, I swear I'd punch her square in the face...then beat the shit out of her repeatedly
And I'm a guy
Waylander08 3 years ago
This man is lost on corporate events. It's embarrassing to watch such talent go unappreciated amid shouts and heckles from a drunken crowd.
RaphaelTodd 3 years ago 4
This man is too sexy, he should be x- rated!!!
sares4564 3 years ago
You don't just get a 'rendition' with Rhydian....you get a 'performance'. There's a massive difference. There are very few singers who 'inhabit' songs like this young man does. You can tell he's 'in character' when he makes no reaction to the silly woman shouting out she wants his babies. If there's any justice in the music industry here's a superstar in waiting.
nickynackynoo123 3 years ago 5
OMG where have I been for soooooooooo long. This is incredible.
Thanks you for letting me share this.
Rhydian you had my vote
RoseAnngie 3 years ago
Awesome!! The angel of music!
dianaben 3 years ago 3
That's an outstanding performance!
This young man is a genius.
mayda00 3 years ago 5
awesome vocal still prefer michael crawford tho, seems more polished, but still wow
drako316 3 years ago
who is that retard shouting i want your babies?!!! how does he keep going and not laugh! haha
he's amazing!!!!xxxxx
lowoo4ever 3 years ago 4
Power of.... music of the night. Rhydian commands great power that touches our souls. How wonderful would be to hear him singing it with a live orchestra! I'm sure the time will come.
tibbyloveRhyd 3 years ago
love him!
Love how he just casually carries on with out even cracking a smile when that person shouts "I want your babies"
omgshutuperr 3 years ago 3
I LOVE RHYDIAN he is the most amazing singer i have ever heard
XrhydianloverX 4 years ago 4
he's really good i think he's a great singer and performer he'll make a great phantom
littlesibley 4 years ago 3
The venue was good - it was a once in a lifetime chance to see Rhydian perform close up!
lbshard 4 years ago 3
Wonderful performance - shame about the venue & some of the audience.
arianwen1 4 years ago 2
Rhydian was on a very small stage with just recorded back up music, and was truly outstanding - I just can't imagine how wonderful he'll sound on a big stage with a live orchestra and good acoustics in the building! If he gets to play Phantom I'll be going dozens of times! He's got something very special about him, the whole package - the voice, the looks, the ability to transform into the character and to top it all a genuinely loveable personality - the world is his now!
lbshard 4 years ago 6
My personal opinion, wilkinson sang this song very beautiful.(better than crawford)
ramin a bit similar to crawford. But rhydian like wilkinson. So l support rhydian in this song. But it's just my opinion! I think all British should be pround of this guy and support him as much as they can,he can represent your country.He still very young can do better day by day,more and more.If this guy be supported,he can perform everythig and make the fame for UK. (I am Aussie)We envy you,we don't have him.
boonyaratch 4 years ago 3
I'd pay good money to see Rhydian in the West End.
jaydeeTX 4 years ago 6
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i agree with tappers88. he is no where near ready for the west end and wont b for a long time def not for phantom anyways x
hughezy88z 4 years ago
hughezy88z, how did you 'happen' upon this YT performance, if you don't mind me asking?
Bellboys 4 years ago 3
I could listen to the music of Rhydian nonstop. What a talented young man.
jaydeeTX 4 years ago 2
tappers88 , thanks, I will, but you ignored my supplementary question, lol. Wonder why.....
Bellboys 4 years ago
i can see him as the phantom. seen the show way to many times to count.
hairyeahyeah 4 years ago
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im sorry but i have heard much much better performances of this song, and it is not at all confirmed he is going to appear in phantom 2, simply mentioned. im sure all rhydian fans will hate me now but you should go and listen to others sing this song who can actually hit the high notes!
tappers88 4 years ago
?! Are you kidding? I've heard so many versions of this song and always got cross cause none of them did it justice- especially crawford, he REALLY couldn't hit the high notes. Rhydian's voice is lovely and resonant.
vielsu 4 years ago 2
tappers88, I would be most grateful if you could point me in the direction of these other singers, please. And are you a member of the whatsonstage forums, perchance?
Bellboys 4 years ago 3
I've seen & heard nearly all the others' singing for the song, but I'm afraid none as exquistive, as emotional as Rhydian's. He has superb ability to draw audiences' attention. I am not a music bluff, but truelly representing a wider public (worldwide).
tibbyloveRhyd 4 years ago 3
What can I say? He's simply amazing. Wish there were a couple more hours of this! Thanks for posting it.
morphoaurora1 4 years ago 3
The lighting in the club was blue so it's true to what we saw.
barbh0 4 years ago
why have you put this strange blue colour screen on ur post???
HomeOfCatAnt 4 years ago
Absolutely amazing. I love his voice. I love the delivery of this song. Thanks for posting JED152
amarylliskitty 4 years ago 3
oh this is absolutely gorgeous - he is amazing. I could just listen and listen all day all night to him. Awesome !!
nonwatcyn 4 years ago 4
wow he deffenitlly sing wow i think he is even better then the phantom in austraulla anthany warlow so when do u think rhydian will dwan the mask of the phantom?
okilodolicy 4 years ago 3
Duh!! He's going to be the lead in "The Phantom of Manhattan" in 2009! ^_^ He was chosen after he sung "Phantom of The Opera" on X factor...
Alicealoun 4 years ago
Also say the Understudy in Oz. He left Warlow for dead!!
hairyeahyeah 4 years ago
Rhydian is beyond excellent.
jaydeeTX 4 years ago 6
Every song he sings leaves me wanting more. He has so much talent it just oozes from him. Great performance of this song.
gmaureen 4 years ago 9
A future star, no doubt about it.
funkyfru 4 years ago 5
His focus is incredible, especially at 3:11 with the woman screaming "I want your babies". I think any other performer would have been startled.
mrstjs 4 years ago 7
The girl in the video is Stephane, the Rhydian Roberts show organiser at the La Margherita Restaurant in Southampton.
Holly152 4 years ago 3
who was the girl giving him flowers at the end?
mrstjs 4 years ago 2
I wish Rhydian would record this now! I'd download his version in a heartbeat. And Jed, thanks for recording and posting this.
joanie3dw 4 years ago 6
I so wish he would too. Perhaps it needs a petition - I'm sure the whole nation wants it! There's no way I can wait until the album - or Manhattan!
morphoaurora1 4 years ago 6
Yeah, the second the soundtrack of Manhattan comes out I will buy it. (if I have enough money) Hmm. I wonder if he would be any good singing some Les Mis songs?
Reeal15 4 years ago 3
Reeal15, this guy can sing just about anything! You only have to look at the diversity of material he covered during X Factor to realise this is not only an amazing vocalist but also an incredibly versatile one. I've been trying to ananlyse just why he's so much better than other singers and I think, apart from his amazing natural vocal talent, it's due to the fact that he INHABITS songs, he doesn't merely sing them.
Bellboys 4 years ago 12
You're absolutely right, Bellboys. I've been trying to analyse that too. He has a way of drawing you into a song totally and keeping you riveted until it's over - even songs you don't usually like. I'm not sure anyone has ever succeeded in explaining that elusive thing called charisma, but whatever it is, he's got in bucketloads.
morphoaurora1 4 years ago 5
Sensational!!!! A world star in the making.
jynx2005 4 years ago 7
Once again, thanks Jed152 for your generosity in posting this video. It just gets better every day.
YLeopard 4 years ago 5
Well, I'm male and straight and even I find this performance absolutely mesmerising, so Lord only knows what this performance does to you ladies, LOL. He's a superstar in waiting, don't you think? And I don't think that status will be long in coming.
AccuristSports 4 years ago 8
It's great to know that men like him too. Let's not forget that apart from being a gorgeous, sexy hunk, he also has quite a good voice! But I'm not sure where that mesmeric quality comes from, but maybe from completely throwing himself into the song?
YLeopard 4 years ago 5
Brilliant.
joanie3dw 4 years ago 8
I have nothing else to say than - FANTASTIC!
SARAHSCHEM 4 years ago 8
I get goosebumps from head to toes watching this! Thanks Rhyd!
lbshard 4 years ago 6
It just gets better every time you watch it, methinks Rhydian is an old head on young shoulders. Born to be a showman!
Tinklefairydust 4 years ago 7
LOL - I'm an addict too...
sweetthursday47 4 years ago 7
Is this actually the sexiest moment in history - when he kisses Stephanie and takes the bouquet? I woulda gone up in flames. Amazing how he dealt so instinctively with the situation. His natural graciousness just shines through. Sorry everyone, I'm obsessed with this vid.
YLeopard 4 years ago 8
It really is- the look he gives her is just - ooh.
he sort of looks like he wants to kill her, but in a sexy way!
vielsu 4 years ago 8
Yeh, steamy! Wish it was me!
morphoaurora1 4 years ago 5
Can't stop watching this one.
YLeopard 4 years ago 6
He's TOTALLY immersed in Charactor....what a great singer and performer.
Holly152 4 years ago 6
I cried.... Rhydian was avsolutely AMAZING...
God bless, Rhydian!
antalmax 4 years ago 6
the guy is a complete, utter and total legend. It don't come better than this.
vielsu 4 years ago 6
Definitely worth the wait..........
sweetthursday47 4 years ago 4
Yeah, you can go once he's sung. Or go hang round the stage door.
YLeopard 4 years ago 3
cant wait 2 c him at x factor tour in feb!!! im only goin 2 c him bollix 2 the rest ov them haha xxx
fembot07 4 years ago 3
Went and booked tickets after watching this. Really want to see him live.
sweetthursday47 4 years ago 5
Stunning performance......can't weight to see him perform in Manhatten next year.
Holly152 4 years ago 7
So sweet and fantastic.
He is now ready to have his won concert.
He can sing and perform as well as entertain audiences.
A STAR IS BORN !!! lucky for this country to have him.The queen will pround of you.
boonyaratch 4 years ago 7
corection...3 KISSES!
geewayisHOT 4 years ago 4
how lucky is that woman getting a kiss off him!
geewayisHOT 4 years ago 7
1 word... WOW
geewayisHOT 4 years ago 7
The footage from 90 degrees is also excellent
sweetthursday47 4 years ago 3
yet another faultless performance well done Rhyd x
madamaamad 4 years ago 3
Fabulous..I love everything he does.
AClorinda 4 years ago 3
This is absolutely fantastic, it gives me goosebumps every time I listen.
I love the way he is totally lost in singing the song, he doesn't let anything distract him.
A true star!
Kobsmudginn86 4 years ago 4
Fab. U. Lous.
girltalkinsmack 4 years ago 3
What a proffessional, he sings with such passion, fully immersed in character, admist so many distractions. Few, if any, singer could have produced such a stunning performance. Can not wait to see him on stage in a musical,or wait to buy his first album.
Holly152 4 years ago 4
I can't help coming back to listen. He is mesmerising.
barbh0 4 years ago 4
One of my favourite songs - and one of the best versions I have ever heard. Can't wait to see him on the est end stage
sweetthursday47 4 years ago 4
He is fantastic!!
He own the stage, very professional.
I can't wait to buy his album.
boonyaratch 4 years ago 4
OMG, that's so beautiful.
Rhydian, you are the phantom of my heart!
mayda00 4 years ago 3
Sorry Jackson fans, but can your Leon do THIS? (*I don't hate Leon speech*)
I'm sort of glad he didn't win now.
Sing the Music of The Night for us, don't sing about miracles!
I hope (and I know) that he'll have a WONDERFUL and long career. We all love you and we're supporting you all the way!
You're my favourite singer now!
bannedyassy 4 years ago 4
makes me feel like crying it's so beautiful, so much emotion in his performance
lbshard 4 years ago 3
powerful and sexy performance
'touch me, trust me, savour each sensation'!
angelbethwin 4 years ago 2
INCREDIBLE, MESMERISING RHYDIAN!!!
Oluremi7 4 years ago 5
That last note lasts for NINETEEN FREAKING SECONDS!!! This man is simply awesome. Note how he deals so brilliantly with the lady bringing on the flowers too early. He's still in character right up until he's given her a kiss, slips out of character for the half smile and the 'stay' comment then straight back into character for that amazing last note. ALW is soooo going to sign this bloke for Phantom of Manhatten. I have a feeling there's a 'release clause' in his Syco contract.
Bellboys 4 years ago 6
What a great voice! Even in these less than perfect circumstances he sings like a dream. Thanks for posting this. Hope he gets to be Phantom.
YLeopard 4 years ago 4
This guy is just amazing. he leaves me speechless. That is by far the best performance of MotN I have ever heard. He really does need to get a part in Phantom. I'll most definitely be there cheering him on!
Yarnie1981 4 years ago 4
Wonderful!!!
istersay 4 years ago 3
I loved that. Thanks so much for posting it. It's great to see Rhydian back in action. Can't wait for more.
joanie3dw 4 years ago 4
Colm Wilkinson used to be my favourite Phantom singer, but Rhydian has surpassed him by far! Such style, and the voice is stupendous! Can't wait to see him play the part - this performance was fantastic beyond words, so on a West End or Broadway stage will be fab fab fab!
lbshard 4 years ago 5
This is some BRILLIANTISSIME performance Rhydian! Despite not so perfect conditions (a lot of background noises)... Thanks for sharing this footage. LOL.
Forrhydian 4 years ago 5
He had special permission from ALW to sing this, there was no way he was going to let himself down by losing focus.
Touch me, trust me, saviour each sensation ... any time you like Rhyd, any time!
ceebee60 4 years ago 4
omg that was perfect... i started crying at the end:S he kept his focus throughout... it shows he's a marvollous actor aswell as a singer:D
milkybarnat 4 years ago 6
OMG, how much I love this man!
Thank you so very much for this video.
He is fantastic as always!
mayda00 4 years ago 5
WOW!!! This shows without a doubt his absolute brilliance... so many distractions, awful lighting, tinny music. Despite all of that he was AWESOME!!!!!
Markeygirl 4 years ago 4
WOW!!! I'm speechless-he is just marvellous.
THHE8 4 years ago 5
Brilliant. Just brilliant. Thank you so much for posting. So wanted to be there!
deebee58 4 years ago 3
Wonderful! I love him singing this song. It could have been written for him.
Mary
madmary 4 years ago 5
WOOOO I was there and at Ninety Degrees HOW AMAZING was it!!!
sdfrn99 - he has got the part of Phantom, performing it in Manhatten yeyyyyyy!
emilySJ 4 years ago 3
Rhydian has a brilliant voice! Shows what Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber must think of Rhydian to give permission to sing this song in public.
sue1971uk 4 years ago 2
thanks for sharing, i've been waiting for this for ages, i really hope rhydian gets the role of the phantom, he'll be brilliant.
sdfrn99 4 years ago 3
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing. :)
funkyfru 4 years ago 3
Aw, bless her. Beautiful performance from Rhydian and excellent self-composure throughout all those 'I want your babies!'...
NimrodZha 4 years ago 3
O wow!
dididizzi 4 years ago 3
Rhydian is just amazing... If he is this good on his own, imagine how phenomenal he will be with a full cast of actors / orchestra, and live instruments in a packed auditorium... Well done Rhydian!!!
Thanks for posting Jed 152!
Oluremi7 4 years ago 6
All Rhyd fans are going to be watching this one forever! Hypnotic
lbshard 4 years ago 3
Bless her. She didnt realise the song hadnt ended and didnt he handle that beautifully.
What an awesome performance.
Absolutely breathtaking!!!
dianaben 4 years ago 3
Thank you! We were there but only managed to video tiny bit of this song, and it's fantastic - can't wait to see him play the Phantom (2). Especially love the way he sings at 03:25 Wow! Lucky girl who presented him with the flowers thought he'd finished the song when she went on the stage to give him the flowers - so was treated to him singing the end of it to her!
lbshard 4 years ago 4
I am lost - somewhere inside him, me thinks!!
tweedycup8 4 years ago 2
Fantastic, what more can I say. Thanks for posting this.
angelbethwin 4 years ago 2
This is beautiful. He is truly awesome.
barbh0 4 years ago 2