A War with al Qaeda?

[Shelter1284]

General Petraeus 2012

[DouglasEdward84]

The pinkos are just upset that Petraeus is succesful, unlike themselves

[Armyman1966]

General P is a genius. You people have no inkling about the topic of warfare, tactics, strategy, you just bitch because you buddies do, and you want to fit in with the wannabe anti war pinko commie faggots. If I had my way, we would make all of you responsible for you OWN DEFENSE, and see how you fare. Your head would be in your lap in about sixty seconds flat.

[dadecountyhustler305]

If I had my way I'd make sure the Arabic language was only spoken in hell. loL

[sclogse1]

@Armyman1966

I spent 6 years in the army...did 4 of them in VIetnam...your "commie pinko faggots" comment, I simply have to take as mad humor, as you can imagine a GI in combat also wonders if the techniques for victory or stabilization are up to par...besidess your terminology is kinda dated...but I wonder sometimes if the only way to succeed over there is by the president taking a more verbal stance, and bringing the leaders of Al-Qaeda to a world table, and humiliating them by example...

[luxorprod321]

petraeus suck!

[rushlimbozo]

Brick head Fume is an idiot. but what else is news in the fucknews world?

[rushlimbozo]

McWarmonger is a War Hero??? Let's step back a little: He was flying a supersonic jet at 20k feet and was shot down (that in itself shows incompetence) then let himself be captured (that shows more incompetence and stupidity). Than he was there for 5 years aiding to the enemy to not be tortured and confessed everything he knew, (that is treason)..but some how this frustrated senile idiot is a hero and John Kerry is not. FuckNews and Redneck country math I guess. Go figure. Hannitys America haha.

[tgrigsby7]

AMEN! It kills me to see everyone make a big deal of McSame being a veteran, but they were quick to lie about a decorated war hero in 2004 to keep the Monkey Faced Frat Boy (MFFB) in office as he busily whittled away our rights and threw our soldiers into harms way for nothing but his dreams of riches and grandeur. Idiots, all of them.

[tgrigsby7]

Brit Hume: "We wouldn't be in the situation we're in today in terms of sectarian violence... had not Al Qaeda been present and active there?"

Brit, you tool. We allowed Al Qaeda in. Bush created the opportunity for Al Qaeda to enter the country against the advice of all experts on the Middle East and Iraq. Our troops are reaping what Bush has sown.

Faux News blows, and Hume's head is doing its share of bobbing...

[danboyd12]

tgrigsby7:

Had it not been for Al Qaeda in Anbar province it would not be the victory it is today.  You should in fact write a letter to Osama Bin Laden thanking him for sending his followers to Iraq.

[tgrigsby7]

You want to thank Osama bin Laden? He was trying to get into Iraq for several years before 9/11, but Saddam refused to let them in. The we deposed him and dissolved the government there, all based on George's lies and Cheney's desperate need to rule the world. So you think that it's a victory because there was a bad guy to fight?  And you think -- I'm guessing here -- that Al Qaeda is weaker today than they were 6 years ago? Really? If you do, you're as big a moron as Hume.

[dinnerbucket9]

Here it is worth noting that early in the second season of the grotesque misadventure in Iraq, Hume allowed that, statistically speaking, Iraq was no more dangerous than California. Tell THAT to the parents of the more than 3,000 U.S troops who have died since then.

[dinnerbucket9]

Here it worth noting that 3 years ago, on one of those Predictions for The Coming Year jobs cable pundits so enjoy, Hume advised us all that the insurgency would be silenced, once and for all, before the NCAA finals.

[markkenworthy]

the name al queda, was give to muslim extremist by the cia. thats a fact kids.its not even a organisation as such, but an ideology, lets face it ya cant win a war against an idea using weapons.

[dinnerbucket9]

Well, 'kids' it is still true that 9/11 was the product of very tightly organized group, led, inspired and funded mainly by Bin Laden. That said, it is clear that police action [ which the Bush administration seems to piss on] is superior to beheamoth military misadventures, which are precisely what Bin Laden, per his experience vs the Soviets, was hoping for.

[dilbertgeg]

WireWerksTV,

Define 'inside job'.

1) Over a dozen high level US frgn policy advisors (PR hacks, think tanks, classified Pgon access) wrote of NEED for attack in 2000.

takeoverworld. info

2) Coverup of some kind, or controlled demo: Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth. Fire Engineering Mag. Military who said that hijackers were trained at US Army bases and Def Lang Schl. Bush call for limited investigation. Krongard says Osama goes free. There's more.

[dilbertgeg]

vrede420 wrote about

Failure in generalship from Armed Forces Journal

and

War As We Saw It from members of 82nd Airborne

citing less than half the strength required to win, phony numbers 1182% low on attacks

and

two-faced Iraqi Army and police, NOT won over to US side.

So think: Gens said so. They were fired. Was Rummy and Generals STUPID? Or was endgame to split Iraq up like Clean Break plan of 1999?

[xcadx]

Al Qaeda is created by CIA 25 years ago in afghanistan during afghan-sovit war to give excuses for america's wars and policy.

[14534]

I dont believe it was "created" by the CIA but it is a fact that we provided them with weapons and funds for use against the Soviets

[dilbertgeg]

I dont believe it was "created" by the CIA}

Jane's Defense/Intelligence disagrees. Pakistan backed Al-Qaeda, but CIA created/runs Pak Intell. FAIR quotes Brit News that CIA invited Al-Qaeda fighters to Afgh, and shipped weapons to them, along with worst radical psychos. Heritage Fnd and Christian Coalition said it was UNPATRIOTIC to NOT support these Islamist Radical terrorists, knowing what they were.

[vrede420]

Based on 8/07 interviews conducted by the prestigious UK market research company, ORB (clients: Conservative Party, Bank of Scotland, etc.), 1,220,580 (733K - 1,446K) have died as a result of the conflict in Iraq since 2003, a murder total that now exceeds the Rwanda genocide. More than one million have been injured.

opinion(dot)co(dot)uk/Newsroom­_details(dot)aspx?NewsId=78

"You break it, you bought it." Gen. Colin Powell

[vrede420]

While Al Qa'ida was significantly weakened by the invasion of Afghanistan, they have done nothing but build since then, largely due to the distraction and international PR nightmare caused by the Iraq War.

Search: National Counterterrorism Center, 7/07, "Al-Qaida Better Positioned to Strike the West."

[vrede420]

Please read what the brave soldiers of the 82nd Airborne have to say about the Iraq war in an op-ed first published in the NY Times, Aug. 19, 2007. Mora and Gray have since died and Murphy has been seriously wounded.

globalpolicy(dot)org/security/­issues/iraq/withdraw/2007/0819­aswesawit.htm

Also, read what active duty Lt. Col. Paul Yingling writes: armedforcesjournal(dot)com/200­7/05/2635198

[moxee]

Wake up America 911 was a inside job carried out by our own criminal government!....Time is running out!

[WireWerksTV]

Name me ONE WTC Maintenance worker, NY Port Authority, WTC office workers, demolition expert, WTC janitor, NYC Cop, Government official, Airport security, or witness...That has come forward about the 9-11 inside job. Because there would have to have been dozens from each of these groups to pull of this "inside job".

[dilbertgeg]

Sibel Edmunds, John Loftus and Rita Katz (SITE Institute, welcomed on Fox), and Indira Singh talked about obstruction of investigations. Around a dozen FBI and military cited obstruction, some yelled at to back off Al-Qaeda prior to Sept 11, and now. Robert Wright is one.

[Vet223]

Ok and then Shiite on Sunni violence erupted as revenge because... yeah that's what I thought, it's mostly a sectarian site.

Abu Qudama al-Tunesi admitted to the attack and gave a detailed description of inside knowledge after he was captured. Tunisian foreign fighter attributed to at least an AQAM.

...

[Vet223]

And your black flag theory's motive to increase violence (against everything else we try to do) was to partition Iraq? Why would we do that, we put a lot of effort into keeping Iraq together until finally public support for a united Iraq accumulated.

As for repeating what you've been told, your comments sound like the parroting of a certain holocaust denier we all know, Mahmoud AJ.

...

[Vet223]

And your friend is of no concern to me, as I've been to Iraq myself and understand our goals quite clearly. Increasing sectarian violence is not one of them.

Lastly, my job does have an objective, and the majority of soldiers know it well. Stand up the GoI, in order to leave a democratic Iraq in charge of the land when we leave, not extremists- everything else is basically a branch leading to that focal point.

[vrede420]

Vet223,

Yes, they did. While Al Qa'ida was significantly weakened by the invasion of Afghanistan, they have done nothing but build since then, largely due to the distraction and international PR nightmare caused by the Iraq War. Search, National Counterterrorism Center, "Al-Qaida Better Positioned to Strike the West."

[Vet223]

Just because one report says something doesn't make it the absolute truth, and especially not when it's this subjective. IF Pakistan is still both ignoring Waziristan as far as AQ is concerned but making a big deal out of us in the area, AQ may have built a FEW, MINOR training camps and bases from which devastating attacks can be set up (but nothing like Afghanistan had), but I don't think Musharraf or our embassy there is THAT incompetent.

[Vet223]

You mean after taking credit for it through a Sunni proxy? Yeah I think we can be pretty sure they did it.

It was holy mostly to Shiites, if you're still confused. The intent was to pit relatively peaceful civilians against eachother and make our job harder... but even if it were holy to Sunnis it wouldn't matter for AQ. They kill innocent muslims by the hundreds daily; if you're not taking up arms in their favor you are AQ's enemy, muslim or not.

[PAYNEFUL77]

When this war comes to north america, all you idiots out there who were all for it, better get out there on the front lines and defend this country. becuase those who live by the sword, die by the sword. I'll be living in peace.

[Vet223]

Uhmmm, if this war comes to North America after we pull out too early, all you idiots who said it'd be fine if we just left better get out there and re-invade.

I prefer peace too. But peace is not mutually exclusive to the sword- it is championed by the sword. Si vis pacem para bellum, etcetera. And TRUE peace, worthwhile peace, is not the absence of conflict, but the presence of justice.

[PAYNEFUL77]

Look at the american history, it's nothing to be proud of, you've enslaved the blacks, killed or rounded up all the indians, and use the mexicans as cheap labour. It took a long time for things to change but they did, on they're own. not by a superpower pressuring the americans to change things, nature just took it's course and we evolved as a society together, So why not let they're country do the same.

[Vet223]

Because evolution is not always happening at all times. Afghanistan was not evolving pre-2001, it was devolving, and there's no reason to believe any country ruled under Shariah law will do anything but. Not to mention the types that espouse that kind of system pose an extreme danger to us.

[WWIIINIV]

You can really tell the Limbaugh listeners in any crowd, usually the most uninformed and twisted.

[Vet223]

Hah it's funny you should say that, Limbaugh listeners, Mark Levin listeners, etc. scored the highest on political issues quiz-surveys compared to those who spend equal amount of time watching TV news and more mainstream outlets instead. Limbaugh's were actually the highest, but I'm not a fan either.

[WWIIINIV]

That only really means that they really pay attention to the party lines, but hopelessly lost in "my side is better than yours", not "we are all getting screwed by these jerks"

[Vet223]

Actually it means they're paying attention at all. It wasn't what they thought about the issues that was tested for, it was the issues they knew about and how much information about it they knew... to find the 'most informed', as it were.

[vrede420]

"Iraq is suffering about double the number of war-related deaths throughout the country compared with last year." - AP, 8/25/07

US troop deaths are higher each month this year than the same month in 06.

Al Qaeda is stronger now than at any time since 2001 - CIA.

You're doing a heck of a job, Betrayus!

[TailChasser]

vrede

You could not be more incorrect. By your logic, we should abolish automobiles and alcohol as they kill over 100,000 people each year. That's more people killed in the WWII.

Debate? You don't debate. You just parrot the left and spew your hatred at Bush and those who defend him.

The AP is a liberal rag.

[vrede420]

TailChasser,

You could not be more incorrect.

20 million+ people - 200,000 Americans - were killed in WWII.

"...parrot the left..."?! - I provided links to the words of active duty soldiers and the Armed Forces Journal. Hey, if you're afraid to read contrary views, admit it, but don't dishonor them by claiming that they are part of the "left".

A "rag" is a newspaper, dummy. The AP is not a newspaper.

[TailChasser]

Actually you are wrong too...I looked it up this time. Over 35 million people died in WWII and over 400,000 of them were Americans. The point was should we abolish the use of cars as FAR more people die in traffic accidents than do soldiers and sailors. You have not answered that yet.

I'm not going to read about or listen to rogue left soldiers who disagree with our administrations policy. They are probably complaining that they cannot kick ass in Iraq because the Dems handcuff them.

[vrede420]

I found: WWII deaths - 72 million. Civilians - 47 million, incl. 20 million due to war related famine and disease. Military - 25 million.

I'm all for preventing any deaths that we reasonably can, especially when the mission itself is harming the US.

"Dem. handcuff"? For all their whining, the spineless Congress so far has given Shrub everything he's asked for.

Don't like AP? Fine, get off your lazy butt and provide alternate credible evidence instead of just spewing.

[TailChasser]

If you are for preventing deaths then (again going by your logic) start a movement to abolish cars.

"harming the US?" give me a break. Man you really are left? I suppose you are voting for Obama or Hillary.

You hate PRESIDENT BUSH! Fine. But to not recognize that he is has done the right thing is myopic.

[vrede420]

TailChasser: "...rogue left soldiers..." - The Armed Forces Journal?! Wow, you're paranoid.

When you say "support the troops", I didn't realize you actually meant, "support the troops as long as they agree with Shrub, a dwindling number of Repub. Senators and you, or as long as they keep their mouths shut." My bad.

[TailChasser]

The AP is biased left. Most everything they report is left commentary and not true journalism. Therefore the term rag can be applied to their product. You are filling your head with mush when you read most of AP material.

[Vet223]

Petraeus was unanimously approved, when it was already clear he would be providing such information. Petraeus did not clear his testimony through the white house, washington, nor the pentagon- it's his words and that of his subordinates, many of whom share the same beliefs and report on their AO's as such.

You don't have a leg to stand on to call him a traitor (one who *betray*s) so sit the fuck down.

[Vet223]

'troop deaths higher'

As is to be expected when you take the offensive option more often. Wasn't it the liberals who were backing Shinseki's criticism that we should have 300,000 soldiers deployed?  What happened to getting it messy and getting it over with?

[Vet223]

'Al-Qaeda is stronger'

No, the CIA did not say that. There have been reports asking recently if AQ was approaching pre-2001 numbers, but even Geraldo saw through those catchy headlines- pre 2001 they had free reign over an entire country, now they don't, and might have some badlands that are *mostly* ignored by the Paks, but better them hiding than not. They are weaker.

[vrede420]

Vet223,

Yes, they did. While Al Qa'ida was significantly weakened by the invasion of Afghanistan, they have done nothing but build since then, largely due to the distraction and international PR nightmare caused by the Iraq War. Search, National Counterterrorism Center, "Al-Qaida Better Positioned to Strike the West."

[Vet223]

Just because one report says something doesn't make it the absolute truth, and especially not when it's this subjective. IF Pakistan is still both ignoring Waziristan as far as AQ is concerned but making a big deal out of us in the area, AQ may have built a FEW, MINOR training camps and bases from which devastating attacks can be set up (but nothing like Afghanistan had), but I don't think Musharraf or our embassy there is THAT incompetent.

[vrede420]

Vet223,

It is possible that 300,000 soldiers would have made a difference in the immediate post-war period, though I think it would have still been a mess given historic and cultural factors in the region. Regardless, after the last 4 years of bungling, no practical amount of force will fix things now. Iraq is going to have to sort out its own problems without the US fueling the fire.

[Vet223]

Yeah yeah, heard it all before, "nothing can fix this"... just like the dems said about Ramadi, huh?

BTW historic and cultural factors weren't that big a deal pre-Saddam, where nobody was oppressed to that degree and Iraq enjoyed a powerhouse oil economy. The fact that Iraqis have had that kind of past means they are much more capable of realizing prosperity goals compared to say, Afghanistan, where we're trying to give them prosperity/lifestyle they've never had before.

[nicholas9999]

so now some of the sunnis have joined forces with U.S. forces, at least in some areas. This should cause you to reassess what is the role of AQ in the region. It has always been a destabilizer, and completely willing to kill Iraqis. Why then would you necessarily assume that AQ, all along, wanted us to leave? How do you know they didn't want us embroiled, helping them destabilize the country?

[Vet223]

Because we're not helping them destabilize it in the long run- we're standing up the GoI security forces. If the GoI is strong enough to fight AQ on their own when we leave, AQ loses. If they get us to leave early and the GoI falls, they win, and may even gain a country over it. Terrorist literature has already been found asking for subordinates to "hold out" until the Americans leave soon and continue attacking Iraqi government forces, to set the stage for scaring them all off later.

[Desnoxvu]

not worth it.

[WilliamBrothers]

Copy paste. Come up with something new.

[TailChasser]

75% of Americans might be overweight in the future or 75% of Americans might believe what they read but your percentage of Americans that want us out of Iraq is false. Can you site your source?

[USSLIBERTY1]

America ALWAYS has some foreign enemy at the ready to distract it from problems at home.

[PTTurboe]

USA vs CIA

sunday, Sunday, SUNDAY!

[vrede420]

Please read what the brave soldiers of the 82nd Airborne have to say about the Iraq war in an op-ed first published in the NY Times, Aug. 19, 2007:

globalpolicy(dot)org/security/­issues/iraq/withdraw/2007/0819­aswesawit.htm

Also, read what active duty Lt. Col. Paul Yingling has to say about the mismanagement of the war: armedforcesjournal(dot)com/200­7/05/2635198

[jj35744]

Yes, premarital sex, divorce, and a young, really young hot second wife. Love those conservative family values. Maybe he could get Senator Craig to be his VP.

[TailChasser]

I don't understand your point, thewah. The video is pointing out that Al Qaeda is the principle enemy in Iraq but not the only one. It's about time you liberals finally agreed that Al Qaeda does exists in Iraq. For years you beat the drum of "Al Qaeda is not in Iraq."

Ooops....owned.

General Petraeus is a hero.

[mo1elftausend]

Al Qaeda was not in Iraq before the U.S. invaded it. Noone doubts that "Al Qaeda" a.k.a. "I hate USA" is there now.

[abathey]

Owned? I think you're overstating. The point is, Al Qaeda wouldn't be there if America hadn't invaded them, on lies and bullshit no less, and then failed completely to prepare for the fallout afterwards.

[TailChasser]

Al-Qaeda was already there so that makes your argument flawed.

[vrede420]

TailChasser,

have you been in a cave since 2003? Even the Cheney/Shrub administration has admitted that there was no Saddam-Al-Qaeda connection. Didn't you get the neo-con talking points update?

[TailChasser]

No, could you forward that memo to me?

[vrede420]

4/07: "Captured Iraqi documents and intelligence interrogations of Saddam Hussein and two former aides all confirmed that Hussein's regime was not directly cooperating with al-Qaeda before the U.S. invasion of Iraq," according to Defense Department acting Inspector General Thomas F. Gimble

[vrede420]

TailChasser,

"THERE is no evidence of links between Hussein and al-Qaeda before the 2003 invasion of Iraq...Far from aligning himself with al-Qaeda and Jordanian terrorist Zarqawi, Saddam repeatedly rebuffed al-Qaeda's overtures and tried to capture Zarqawi...US intelligence analysts were strongly disputing the alleged links between Hussein and al-Qaeda while Bush was publicly asserting them to justify invasion."

-2005 CIA report

[TailChasser]

Actually there is evidence that Zarqawi was in Iraq positioning himself as a leader of the Islamic terrorist wing before the March 2003 invasion. But you are so hell bent on bashing President Bush that will believe and parrot the ramblings of the left.

What about the US intelligence reports that said he and others of Al Qaeda were there? Were they wrong then? Are the reports correct now? Disputing Zarqawi existence in Iraq does not equate to him not being there....sorry not owned yet.

[vrede420]

TailChasser,

What's with your reading comprehension?

"...parrot the ramblings of the left." - I quoted the CIA and the Defense Dept., or are you saying that they are part of the left-wing conspiracy?

"...there is evidence that Zarqawi was in Iraq..." - Neither quote denied his presence, but they did show that Saddam rejected overtures and attempted his arrest.

"Owned" on matters of opinion - not possible. Owned on ability to even undrstand an argument - done.

[TailChasser]

All that was needed was to place Zarqawi in Iraq prior to the coalition invasion. We did that. So that puts Al Qaeda in Iraq, pre-invasion.

Maybe Hussein was connected directly with Zarqawi (Al Qaeda) and maybe he wasn't. Who cares? At the time that we went to war it was a unanimous decision with congress to get Hussein and Al Qaeda. You need to broaden your hatred of President Bush to include your own liberals in high places as they are just as responsible for your "unjust war."

[vrede420]

TailChasser,

I get it, you're saying that going after one ineffective guy, unable to get anything going and even subject to Iraqi arrest justifies the 700K+ Iraqi dead and enormous harm done to the US by the war.

We can agree that the Repubs. do not have a monopoly on militarism, imperialism, and foolish foreign policy decisions, though Cheney/Shrub were solely responsible for the lies and manipulated evidence that many Dems. were dumb enough to fall for.

[TailChasser]

Now I see where your thinking is flawed; all of it. No sense in trying to discuss logic with you as you have convinced yourself that you are smarter than President Bush and his staff, you know more than they do and you are completely oblivious to evil in this world that we wage war against.

[vrede420]

TailChasser,

Fine then, if you are now incapable of debate, please read what the brave soldiers of the 82nd Airborne have to say about the Iraq war in an op-ed first published in the NY Times, Aug. 19, 2007. Mora and Gray have since died and Murphy has been seriously wounded.

globalpolicy(dot)org/security/­issues/iraq/withdraw/2007/0819­aswesawit.htm

Also, read what active duty Lt. Col. Paul Yingling has to say about the war: armedforcesjournal(dot)com/200­7/05/2635198

[dougzilla]

My dog is smarter than Bush.

I doubt that Bush could manage a 7-11 store on his own.

[hgary2003]

By a dumbass statement like that, your dog is clearly smarter than you are, remember, George W. Bush is the elected President of these United States of America, after you run for President, get elected, and do a better job than he has, why don't you just shut your mouth!

[tgrigsby7]

You douchebag, my frikkin' DOG could do a better job than George Bush.

[abathey]

A CIA report and a generals assertions as evidence, oh my! I think that's getting owned, my friend! LOL!

[abathey]

Actually, they're giving arms to several factions in Iraq now, supposedly to fight Iranians and Al Qeada, so is it now any wonder they're all killing each other as well as US troops! But hey, The US has to blame someone, so lets pick Iran and Al Qeada because everyone hates them anyway, right? General Petraus is another neo-con asslicker. Bush might as well of had his hand up his ass today at the hearing.

[b6gm6n]

pure bullshit...i bet the US bombed that mosgue...keep the war alive man!

[thewah]

This illustrates how badly Bush and the Neocons screwed up. The Neocons don't anticipate an insurgency. They keep claiming to be fighting Al Qeada. Al Qeada comes to Iraq and helps instigate a civil war and long term resistance. Neocons go wha?!!

This is the obvious result of the "flypaper" strategy. It fucks Iraqis. It is time to go.

[TailChasser]

I don't understand your point, thewah. The video is pointing out that Al Qaeda is the principle enemy in Iraq but not the only one. It's about time you liberals finally that Al Qaeda exists in Iraq. For years you beat the drum of "Al Qaeda is not in Iraq."

Ooops....owned.

General Petraeus is a hero.

[hohe1238]

Great job, General! Keep telling the truth...

[funnrun]

Why have the Democrats failed to stop this War, Despite their being in the majority"?

OBL Sept 7 2007

WOW ! Sounds like OBL is a disgruntled Democratic Voter! Ha ha ha!

[galizc2007]

Pero existe al Qaeda, pq si existe es a los intereses yankis a quien mas a beneficiado. El 9/11 ha servido para justificar todas las guerra imperialistas posibles en nombre de la "guerra contra el terrorismo". Vamos igual que paso con el Maine y Pearl Harbord!

[eekdog2005]

This presentation was pure propaganda!

[MarquisdeBarrabas]

Saddam, Saddam, Iran, Syria, Al Quaeda, Iran, it's the Liberal's fault, Iran, Al Queda, Iran etc

Here's an idea: pick a scapegoat and stick with it.

[ColdPizza]

General Betrayus. You're a disgrace to your uniform. Hard to believe that you're supposed to be a military leader.

Our fine men and women in uniform deserve much better.

[exweez]

the only thing he has betrayed is the lies of lefties.if he lied to congress prosicute him.your political agenda can not survive success,you sicken me

[eaprez]

The military used for propaganda. Disgracefull

[pianotuna52]

Does Brit need anyone to interview. He seems to "know" and can explain the situation all by himself.

[putittogether]

LOL, people will believe this man.  So sad, to bad.

[asdffd]

Folks, this is the best argument for why we need to get out of Iraq:

MOST IRAQIS HATE US! No, hate is too weak a word. MOST IRAQIS WANT US DEAD! In a new joint ABC/BBC/NHK (Japanese tv) poll 57% of Iraqis support attacks on the troops. When you break it down 93% of Sunnis (93%!), 50% of Shiites, and 5% of Kurds support attacks on our troops. When a majority of the people you are trying to help want you dead it is time to LEAVE. Only a complete lunatic would think otherwise.

[jj35744]

There is another reason. All the weapons and training we are giving the Iraqi Army will eventually be used against us. Does anyone really think that they, middle eastern muslims, will love the christian west? Why are we arming islamic extremeist?

[dcworthi]

It's Fox News... What can I say.

[drmark1995]

Could Britt lead the General anymore, offering conclusions for him to agree with. I believe I ould hit these (false) softballs out of the park, too.

[rotylee]

Nothing like a War with a Ficticious entity...Picture here a dog chasing its on tail..then wonder what happened to the unaccounted pallets of cash. ever wonder what happened to the mobile weapons labs?

[adventurenox]

But al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq untill the US went in!

[Akyrumunios]

Ok fine I will ask the question. How do you know it was al queda? No no sir you don't have to tell me spacifics just let me know what kind of intel. you have on it. Like you gave a small iraqi boy some chiclets to tell you who the bad men who did it was. You know sometype tag of info. So when the time comes to unclassify the thing I know you had something.

[EchelonMonitor]

The Bush gang is do determined to stay in Iraq, against all reason and no matter how destructive it is to them and the GOP politically, because they're making huge profits off of it, and they want to KEEP making those huge profits for decades to come.

The suffering and deaths of the troops are of no concern to them.

Bush's Carlyle Group has bought Manor Care, so they can even profit off troops they've turned into invalids.

[EchelonMonitor]

Read about Colonel Westhusing if you need proof of how wrong the occupation is.

He was a West Point professor who believed so much in the occupation that he volunteered to serve in Iraq.

Once there, he saw that he had been lied to and how the Carlyle Group's Isis contractors in Iraq were ripping off the American taxpayer and murdering Iraqi civilians, and he was murdered before he could get back to the US and report on what he saw.

[EchelonMonitor]

What a bunch of lies. There are no more than 2,000 foreign fighters in Iraq, and most of them are Saudis.

Most of the fighers are insurgents defending their country after we murdered and tortured their friends and family members.

Wouldn't you fight an occupying power that killed and tortured your brothers?

[bxblox]

this guy is being used....

[hohe1238]

How's he being used? You don't trust a man in charge of our soldiers lives to tell the truth?

[csmith7056]

i've been to iraq a couple of times and only ran in to Al Queda on a number of instances on the Syrian border and elsewhere. the major issue is sectarian violence and people who oppose the occupation and choose to take up arms against us (USA) because we are on their territory. The general is actually to me it seems as a puppet for the Bush administration as a way to force the war forward and save face as a president in the context of history. be a patriot, general

[fermium77]

A FOX News exclusive! Way to ruin your credibility.

[hohe1238]

Prove it..

[MarquisdeBarrabas]

Baby Jesus spoke to him. That's all the proof you should need.

[hohe1238]

Told him? Who is him? I didn't know we had delineated a person to talk about. And your little attempt at humor, Sorry, wasn't that funny...

[615ocean]

Al Qaeda is the CIA look it up we fund Sunni extremists Terrorists to fight Shia groups like Hezbalooah

[hohe1238]

Whoa! This is a big claim, man. Can you prove such a statement?

[615ocean]

Pulitzer prize winning author Seymore Hirsch has published articles and spoken on TV with proof by way of US Government documents. Google it it wont let me paste a link in comments

[hohe1238]

Send it to me in an e-mail...I would really like to see it...

[615ocean]

trust me u can see the TV interviews by typing Iraq and Seymore Hirsch right here on youtube. Stories you can read go to Google......not into sending emails

[thewah]

There are certain groups we fund to fight others. That these groups have further connections is not surprising. We also fund some folks to fight in Iran. A few were caught and executed last summer. There are lots of tribes and peoples in the middle east, and many have allegiance only to their wallet, or whoever is currently pointing a gun at them.

[Freakaloin]

there's no evidence of al qaeda in iraq but there's some evidence the sammara attack was false flag operation designed to cause sectarian violence and blame it on iraq. sad...

[cobwebhead]

What? Somehow it didn't occur to these geniuses that freeing Iraq really meant freeing Iraq for takeover attempts by al Qaeda and Iran? If they hadn't been so busy shouting the rest of us down, they might have heard some reasonable advice.

If we leave, there may be some chaos, but much of it will be the Iraqis slaughtering the rest of the foreign occupiers, like AQI.

[oolong2]

"Al Qaeda in Iraq" is not the same as "Al Qaeda"...

And the attacks by the group incompass a very small percentage of the violence.

For Patraeus to outright lie like this, and place all the blame on a fictional organization to push an agenda is shameful...

[mugshotesp]

Indeed, we all know it and we need to tell the public that Fox distorts.

[fermium77]

Oh right on, brother. If people paid more attention to that phrase "Al Queda in Iraq" and understood that is has NOTHING at all to do with Osama Bin Laden, this war might end a lot sooner.

[thewah]

It's a small percentage of the violence, but a larger percentage of the horrific stuff. This is why the Iraqis are MORE THAN capable of taking care of "Al Qaeda in Iraq". They are not, however, capable of defeating Al Qaeda (The Worldwide Base). Nor will they ever need be. It's not like they are going to invade Iran again.

[dafttool]

Complete BS. Al Qaeda are a very small minority of the people creating mayhem in Iraq (spectacular attacks yes, but a minority nonetheless). Yet Patraeus is parroting the Bush/Cheney line blaming the vast majority of problems on the terrorist group most Americans are most willing to support a continuing crusade to destroy. Dealing with Al Qaeda confronts 10% of the problem, but what about the other 90%?

[rlh68]

... is it me or do they just keep changing the story? I guess they figure they're bound to get one right.

[SpoookyJoe]

Yes, and next we open a new front in the war against al-Qaeda... in Iran! You know... all those Persian al-Qaeda types.... all those Shiite al-Qaeda.... yeah... yeah... I saw 'em with my own eyes in Baghd.. uh Tikri.. ..er.. Tehran, yeah... Tehran.... that's it, that's the ticket.

[rlh68]

No wait! They are in San Francisco and those other godless-communist-liberal states... martial law!

;)

[gmfutube]

Not so far fetched anymore.

[RonPaulVoters]

Ok, so he said the civil war wouldn't have happened if Al-Qieda wasn't there. Who's fault is it that they went there? Hmmmm

[Kapan60]

That would be "The Decider" in action. Don't you think it's odd that General Patreus jumps onto Fox News the night of going to Congress and submitting his report? The public isn't buying this and the more they try to cram it down our throats the less believable it is.

Ron Paul for 2008.

[thewah]

That was why Neocons suck. On the one hand they claim to be fighting a global Islamist movement. On the other hand they forget this global Islmaist movement might follow them into an (originally) unrelated invasion into the heart of Arabia.

This is the result of the no-longer-touted "flypaper" strategy. It was crap then, and this is the crap we have now.

What Petraus refused to say, and only a couple kinda asked...was how long.

Best case is 5+ years. Normal is 10+. Worst is ++.