In the end the Johnson cars were the quickest. But I'm speaking of 1992 now. There is a great video of Johnsons qualifying lap at Bathurst on youtube.
daroy 1984 forgot to mention my mates have got the dick johnson car chassis num 1[ex rob gravett car] and another has the peter brock MOBIL 1 andy rouse prepared car that both of them drove at bathurst both cars running and on the button
daroy 1984 just a road car now and esc cos racecar,roadcar and a rally car grp-a and yes i started the strip down for restoration of 88001 and martin finished it and its now in australia hes also sold this timharvey car now and the eggenberger car
yes it was martin johnsons car he also owned the anz car that was the pole car from bathurst in 87 with alan moffat and andy rouse driving also the eggenberger car which was the steve soper and pierre doudoinne[only genuine one in the uk]also bought my car of me graham goodes listerine car from 88 ,the other car he had was the rs500 touring car of lawrence bristow which was tims teammate at that time.
@THUNDERSALOON The Listerine car you mention is the white one with black bumpers if I remember correctly? Martin did a resto on that and then sold it to Australia I believe.
this is a great dvd i enjoyed taking the car there for duke videos a lot of good memories especially tims smile after being re-united with this[his car]rs500 and doing the 2 runs round mallory was awesome to watch a great guy very geniune could even remember some of the set-up from back then.
I think the people in the media making noises about strangling the limits of the technology and the inter-team battle for innovation in Formula One could do well to listen to Tim Harvey in this video.
We need the spice of development in racing, even if that creates some differential across the grid.
I like the part when Dick Johnson brought his Shell RS500 over from Australia, to Silverstone, won pole, and blew everybody away (until his water pump broke)
Group A, in both touring cars and Rally cars, were in my opinion the best times in motorsport. Yes the Touring car racing was a bit one sided, but if you look at Group A in rallying, it was great. When the WRC rules came in @ 1996, Group A Rallying was just coming good and was producing some of the greatest road cars of all time. Mitsubishi Evo 1-6, Subaru legacy and impreza, Ford Sierra and Escort Cosworths, Toyota Celica GT4, Lancia Delta Integrale, Nissan Pusar GTI-R. Now look at Rallying
@eggfromsywell in 2002, under the 2/3-year-old regulations of WRC racing class, you had about 8 manufacturers competing in the championship (Peugeot, Ford, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Hyundai, Skoda, SEAT and Citroen), problem is WRC is a real World championship and is pretty expensive to field a couple of competitive cars
about €600k per car considering the following: little number of spare parts (just tires and some essential parts), no complete repair and no money for the driver and the co-driver
@die996 I understand that there were a good selection of manufactures at that time, but my point was that it didn't result in great road cars. There isn't a production 4WD Ford Focus or Peugeot 207 or Hyundai or Citroen Xsara/C4. The cars that were produced in the Group A era were great race cars and road cars and to a point, Group A was a cheap form of motorsport. Modified road cars rather than 25 one off specials made to look like roads cars that the WRC is now
@666nocturnal666 .....group A's were made historic last year......so hopefully everyone else follow's Australia and bring's back Group A....maybe we could start a Invite us and we will invite you.....I would love to bring our car over and take it on some of your circuits.....kick some Sierra butt at the same time....lol.....only playing!
These were the days....wish they would bring back a similar Group A series. We have a historic series in Australia and the cars have to run exactly how the ran in the day. We ere lucky enough to have a 51 car field at a recent event at Eastern Creek Racway.
If you have Rfactor the TCL mod is out. At Rfactor central. With The Ford Sierra rs500 and many more from the good old group a days. Tim's is car not in it. but sure some 1 will skin it.
WOW. Great video ! I wonder if Labatts here in Canada has some pics or videos of their BTCC racecars from back in the day. I did like the Labatts BTCC E30 M3 better though.
Fantastic! Thank you for sharing this video. The speed trap speeds in Brum were a shock, i knew they were faster than the F3000 cars, but not by 15+ mph! Awesome. Miss these cars a hell of a lot.
brilliant to see Tim reunited with this car, does/did a guy called Martin Johnston own this car? he had a rs500 that he took me round donnington in around 2001, i cant remember whether he bought this car or had plans to buy it back then and reunite Tim with it
Prolly because of the better grip those cars had. Don't have a list of laptimes to compare unfortunatly.
Then end 90s cars have to be faster then the Group A car. With all the money put in the development of the cars. They became to expensive and the organisation switched to the S2000 formula. Thats what Tim was refering to in the vid.
So who built the best cars? Rouse, Johnson or EggandBurger?
triptechable 3 weeks ago
@triptechable
In the end the Johnson cars were the quickest. But I'm speaking of 1992 now. There is a great video of Johnsons qualifying lap at Bathurst on youtube.
daroy1984 6 days ago
The excitement in Tim's voice speaks volumes for the car!
superfast30 4 weeks ago
Awesome clip of a great driver and a legendary touring car!
superfast30 4 weeks ago
i was in my grandad's rs500 a few days ago with the same turbocharge and boost the touring cars have. i want it soooo much
KingHarris11 5 months ago
What a legend. What i would give to own one heh
Courage68 7 months ago
love the car!!! :)
KillarXoNe 7 months ago
What does he say @ 7:25?
qwkutiub 7 months ago
Excellent!
RTWUROTTS 7 months ago
got A Cosse these days - haf´ the powa, same fun, that´s for shure :)))
Thumbs up for postin´, chap.
strokertiger302 8 months ago
Very nice upload...cheers
FM77 9 months ago
560bhp for a 2.0L, awesome!
Crackdown77 11 months ago 2
@Crackdown77 Makes you wonder why the yanks need a 7.2 for that eh? lol
FSPRofLStomP 10 months ago
@FSPRofLStomP Really :-D
Crackdown77 10 months ago
@Crackdown77
yeaah....in 1989!!!!its insane
fuckinlowdowndrummer 9 months ago
daroy 1984 forgot to mention my mates have got the dick johnson car chassis num 1[ex rob gravett car] and another has the peter brock MOBIL 1 andy rouse prepared car that both of them drove at bathurst both cars running and on the button
THUNDERSALOON 11 months ago
daroy 1984 just a road car now and esc cos racecar,roadcar and a rally car grp-a and yes i started the strip down for restoration of 88001 and martin finished it and its now in australia hes also sold this timharvey car now and the eggenberger car
THUNDERSALOON 11 months ago
Excellent presentation by Tim Harvey. He didn't mention Tiff Needell in his mentioned driver battles though...
NiallatUTube 1 year ago
2 litre shopping car formula !haha -go on tim very well done
nicbarrow 1 year ago
Lets put some entertainment back into motor racing ! Love it. I want a go. Which fool ticked dislike btw ? :S
letmelickit 1 year ago
yes it was martin johnsons car he also owned the anz car that was the pole car from bathurst in 87 with alan moffat and andy rouse driving also the eggenberger car which was the steve soper and pierre doudoinne[only genuine one in the uk]also bought my car of me graham goodes listerine car from 88 ,the other car he had was the rs500 touring car of lawrence bristow which was tims teammate at that time.
THUNDERSALOON 1 year ago
@THUNDERSALOON The Listerine car you mention is the white one with black bumpers if I remember correctly? Martin did a resto on that and then sold it to Australia I believe.
You still own any RS500's?
daroy1984 1 year ago
this is a great dvd i enjoyed taking the car there for duke videos a lot of good memories especially tims smile after being re-united with this[his car]rs500 and doing the 2 runs round mallory was awesome to watch a great guy very geniune could even remember some of the set-up from back then.
THUNDERSALOON 1 year ago
to clear up a little confusion...
The 2.3 liter sierra was used in touring cars before the RS500 was born to replace the older variants...
This is the rs500 however....
NegativeNumbers427 1 year ago
@painballer what planet do you live on?? it's a 2.0 4cyl turbo producing 550bhp
th31nstructor 1 year ago
What a great presenter.
I think the people in the media making noises about strangling the limits of the technology and the inter-team battle for innovation in Formula One could do well to listen to Tim Harvey in this video.
We need the spice of development in racing, even if that creates some differential across the grid.
Lovely stuff in this video.
IShallTellYouWhat 1 year ago
I like the part when Dick Johnson brought his Shell RS500 over from Australia, to Silverstone, won pole, and blew everybody away (until his water pump broke)
Thebibs 1 year ago
I like the part when Dick Johnson brought his Shell RS500 over to Silverstone, won pole, and blew everybody away (until his water pump broke)
Thebibs 1 year ago
I'd love to drive that
REI02021809 1 year ago
240grupp-aDOTse
stonerumble 1 year ago
Group A, in both touring cars and Rally cars, were in my opinion the best times in motorsport. Yes the Touring car racing was a bit one sided, but if you look at Group A in rallying, it was great. When the WRC rules came in @ 1996, Group A Rallying was just coming good and was producing some of the greatest road cars of all time. Mitsubishi Evo 1-6, Subaru legacy and impreza, Ford Sierra and Escort Cosworths, Toyota Celica GT4, Lancia Delta Integrale, Nissan Pusar GTI-R. Now look at Rallying
eggfromsywell 1 year ago
@eggfromsywell in 2002, under the 2/3-year-old regulations of WRC racing class, you had about 8 manufacturers competing in the championship (Peugeot, Ford, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Hyundai, Skoda, SEAT and Citroen), problem is WRC is a real World championship and is pretty expensive to field a couple of competitive cars
die996 1 year ago
@die996 I once heard about some numbers for WRC
about €600k per car considering the following: little number of spare parts (just tires and some essential parts), no complete repair and no money for the driver and the co-driver
die996 1 year ago
@die996 I understand that there were a good selection of manufactures at that time, but my point was that it didn't result in great road cars. There isn't a production 4WD Ford Focus or Peugeot 207 or Hyundai or Citroen Xsara/C4. The cars that were produced in the Group A era were great race cars and road cars and to a point, Group A was a cheap form of motorsport. Modified road cars rather than 25 one off specials made to look like roads cars that the WRC is now
eggfromsywell 1 year ago
I may have 4 or 5 when these were racing. but i remember watching them. Like Tim said those were the days
REI02021809 1 year ago
Get a race series for these and put the excitment back into motorsport, 80s Touring cars! HELL YES!!
666nocturnal666 1 year ago 18
@666nocturnal666 .....group A's were made historic last year......so hopefully everyone else follow's Australia and bring's back Group A....maybe we could start a Invite us and we will invite you.....I would love to bring our car over and take it on some of your circuits.....kick some Sierra butt at the same time....lol.....only playing!
Jetwreck 1 year ago
Get a race series for these and put the excitment back into motorsport, 80s Touring cars! FUCK YES!!
666nocturnal666 1 year ago
Get a race series for these and put the excitment back into motorsport, 80s Touring cars! FUCK YES!!
666nocturnal666 1 year ago
I love the noise on board
REI02021809 1 year ago
dick johnson in australia still owns his!
fomocoboy 1 year ago
My mate paid a lot of money for his Garrett T4 blower back in the day when it was the blower to have on your Cossie. He he he happy days!
dpz46 2 years ago
cant agree more lets get these into a proper race series
bluntyn40 2 years ago 3
this car wud still have a damned good thrash at the current touring cars...
tim is right they shud make a race serires for these rs500's
5/5
TheeBaker 2 years ago 6
awesome, one of th best cars ever, one of the best touring cars ever, 40 wins in a row!
ford and cosworth rule!
TheeBaker 2 years ago 2
great vid..wish they could do dimilar vid but with volvo..granberg or lindstrom for ex.
stonerumble 2 years ago
yes realy a graet car.
rayluv77 2 years ago
I would love to drive one of those. But the road version
REI02021809 2 years ago
Look at the size of that turbo!
hardfi123 2 years ago
thanks so much for sharing this vid, such great times and memories!
djben06 2 years ago
that's what racing cars should be all about "more power than grip", great car great man, RS500 all the way!!!
RSROBXR2 2 years ago 4
i thought the rs500 is 2.0l?
jordanr1504 2 years ago
Indeed, it's a 2 litre turbocharged engine.
daroy1984 2 years ago 2
What a fantastic video, great to see Tim and his Rouse built RS500 back together and to see him enjoying driving it again.
Shame the BTCC is not as good these days:(
supertouring22 2 years ago 3
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@jordanr1504 its actually a 2.3T
PainBaller03 1 year ago
@PainBaller03 its 2.0l
jordanr1504 1 year ago
@PainBaller03
You are wrong here. All Cosworth's (Escort & Sierra) are 2.0L 4 cylinders.
daroy1984 1 year ago 5
@PainBaller03 The American XR4TI were 2.3T. Cosworths were 2.0T
eggfromsywell 1 year ago
These were the days....wish they would bring back a similar Group A series. We have a historic series in Australia and the cars have to run exactly how the ran in the day. We ere lucky enough to have a 51 car field at a recent event at Eastern Creek Racway.
Jetwreck 2 years ago
ford sierra is the best of this fucking world
trxaka 2 years ago
this is awesome, takes me back to my youth!!
bullybullseye123 2 years ago
i miss my xr4ti.....id give my left nut for a cossie rs500.
emsevas 2 years ago
they should have given him the car after this reunion!!!!!
at8tc 2 years ago 3
Agreed :D that would be nice :)
Coby19666 2 years ago
he looks like he is going slow because he makes it so smooth and easy, but he is actuyally flying.
badbob91 2 years ago
tim harvey nice bloke
whitemetro99 2 years ago
Fookin awesome!
AndyRouseCrawford 2 years ago
This car is actually here in Australia, for sale
gtrmagic 2 years ago
PRICE?
fontasierrars500 2 years ago
isnt the car you are talking about, the one that was converted with a thundersaloon body kit? believe that resided in australia.
arfurjohnson 2 years ago
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i just want it !
rs5001988 2 years ago
FUCK ITS ALEGEND
FlameThrash900 2 years ago 4
I remember Andy Rouse driving a few times at the Bathurst 1000... He always looked calm when driving compared to the other Euro drivers....
BROOKS39 2 years ago
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at last, this the vid im searching for..ahh thanx
safzuan 2 years ago
RS 500 is the Legend forever!
3voBoy 2 years ago 15
If you have Rfactor the TCL mod is out. At Rfactor central. With The Ford Sierra rs500 and many more from the good old group a days. Tim's is car not in it. but sure some 1 will skin it.
ert2006 2 years ago
TCL version 1.1 does have Tim Harvey, plus Steve Soper in the Texaco livery my favourite colour scheme
deanbadspal 2 years ago
Timmy is like a little boy being reunited with the old girl lol good man and great driver a true legend of BTCC
rally4life11 2 years ago 2
WOW. Great video ! I wonder if Labatts here in Canada has some pics or videos of their BTCC racecars from back in the day. I did like the Labatts BTCC E30 M3 better though.
ROBCRX 2 years ago
Fantastic! Thank you for sharing this video. The speed trap speeds in Brum were a shock, i knew they were faster than the F3000 cars, but not by 15+ mph! Awesome. Miss these cars a hell of a lot.
Gardner7575 2 years ago
brilliant to see Tim reunited with this car, does/did a guy called Martin Johnston own this car? he had a rs500 that he took me round donnington in around 2001, i cant remember whether he bought this car or had plans to buy it back then and reunite Tim with it
cheers
michaeldelz 3 years ago
The car Tim is driving is / was Martin Johnsons car. He had it for a couple of years but it's sold now if I remember correctly.
daroy1984 3 years ago
Great video!!
Many thanks for sharing! Appreciated
JessopVTS 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this
Bomag 3 years ago
That was when cars were cars and drivers were drivers !!! Tim you are a BTCC great !!! 10/10 for the vid .
tony4790 3 years ago 3
I wonder if a late-90's super tourer would actually be quicker round a circuit than this. Even with only 320bhp-ish, I think they probably would be.
theberengersniper 3 years ago
Actually , in the 1994 Championship , Andy Rouse talked about how the Mondeo was lapping faster than the Sierra Cosworths could.
Chickenman702 3 years ago
Prolly because of the better grip those cars had. Don't have a list of laptimes to compare unfortunatly.
Then end 90s cars have to be faster then the Group A car. With all the money put in the development of the cars. They became to expensive and the organisation switched to the S2000 formula. Thats what Tim was refering to in the vid.
daroy1984 3 years ago
quality!
COSSSIEBOY 3 years ago