Weber Concertino for Natural Horn opus 45 in E Minor (Part 1)

[pa14380]

very brave to do the natural horn! well! by cons if we could remove the body language that serve really is nothing that will be even better!

[chaosbringer127]

his tone is insane

[nurygu]

bravo Javier !

[hanajitarou]

すげ～この人！！

なんじゃこりゃ(＠_＠;)

[blah163]

Well played! Valved horns sound boring in comparison. I see why Brahms called them "brass violas" and preferred the natural horn.

[ericoschmitt]

what does he do when takes the right hand out of the bell? cleaning spit? changing key?

[jbonet2003]

It´s to change the intonation. In the natural harmonic series many sound are out of tune.

Javier

[ericoschmitt]

@jbonet2003 yeah, i know that, but i mean

what does he do when he takes his hand OUT of the bell and stops playing at 1:08

[jbonet2003]

@ericoschmitt

When I play the A flat in the low register, I use the sounding G, and try to play as high as possible. For that if you take your hand out of the bell the pitch goes higher, because the normal position of the hand inside the bell makes the horn sound a little bit lower than normal. It´s me who play in the video, javier Bonet and I hope this helps you to understand the question.

javier

[ericoschmitt]

@jbonet2003 thanks! and congratulations for you playing :)

im starting on horn now, as my 7th instrument, and i have always liked natural horns and trumpets, its nice to see someone playing one of those instruments so well

ive got 2 more questions: can that be played with a double horn by holding the thumb, 1 and 2, so you can retune it to G and play as a natural?

and, how do you get the spit out of it if there is so many tubing and no valves?

[jackiechan237]

@ericoschmitt

he is clearing spit at 1:08. the spit valve is a modern attachment to this copy instrument.

[ericoschmitt]

@jackiechan237 thanks! thats what i meant, i didnt know natural horns had spit valve :) but i think thats good, otherwise he would have to play the entire piece without cleaning, and the sound might stop

well, my modern double horn doesnt have spit valve, i have to take off the tuning slides sometimes! i hate it

[JawigginsH]

@ericoschmitt emptying the spit.

[patrickdcyau]

Is this movement just called Part 1 (instead of first movement)? And Part 2 (instead of second movement)?

[chidoriengan]

Wow I'm blown away! Great characteristic and accurate playing!

[zwedenhuizen]

Wow, a true master of embouchure!

[KarlBonner1982]

How is he able to get such an open sound on that note at 1:14?  Isn't it a low A-flat by natural horn notation? That's supposed to be one of the toughest notes to play by any means. And yet he can sound it loud, clear, open and in tune.

[javierbonet]

Hi Karl, I´m Javier Bonet. For this note, low A-flat, there is two possibilities, the normal one as you suggested, playing completely closed with the hand, but the second one and the best in my opinion, playing the low G as high as possible with the lips and the hand completely out of the bell. IN this way you can hear it´s sound really much better, loud, clear and in tune. Not easy but possible. L.F. Dauprat suggested also this solution on his Method. I hope it helps you...

[KarlBonner1982]

@javierbonet Where can I find some of Dauprat's natural horn literature?

[Whitehorn89]

Grande Javier!!!

[naxeldelenarkie]

Bravo!!!!!

[brassbend]

Give me a horn with 45 valves and I still couldn't play this. Great job Javier!

[alexanhorn]

Great Javier !! Congratulations !

[reginaivan]

Amazing Weber played with a natural horn!!

[moogle301]

I used to play Trumpet but now I'm out of practice so I'd prefer an instrument that you play by instinct and not with valves so I can just think of a song and play it. Is the bugle like that? Cus I can play most any tune on a trumpet mouthpiece but obviously that sounds a bit stupid, and doesn't work once it's attached to the trumpet, then I can only control jumps between C and G and E with my mouth.

[moogle301]

@moogle301 I mean natural flute, but Bugles also have no valves?

[Chefkritiker1]

cooler Trick um das tiefe as offen zu spielen....

[topbon2ndvalve]

Magnificent playing in anyone's book, gutsy, musical, fab!!!!

[jonathanwegloop]

GREAT!!!

(Strings not so well...)

[fishcop444]

great job!

[mmfabiano]

what natural  horn are you using...in E? great job...congratulations

[Moonmatt2]

1:47 = so cool! Is that his hand or a lip trill?

[jbonet2003]

starting with the hand, the two o three first notes and then lips..

[CampusIngenieur]

It´s a lip trill. It can´t be a hand trill because it´s a natural horn = no valves to trill with.

[valihorn92]

but a hand trill is possible...i mean trill with the RIGHT hand (open - stopped)

[moviesmyway]

yea I was about to say that. move your right hand to tune.... it's kinda how you play the natural horn a lot

[madaraszi]

played on natural horn !!! :O

thats awesome

[MrCorno]

well done!

[TchaikV]

This is one of my favorite works for horn. Tuckwell wrote that this work is incredibly challenging regardless of whether one uses valves. Very impressive!

[P0dDels]

OMG, yes it is^^

[AlexanderHornQuartet]

javier, nunca dejaras de sorprenderme. Simplemente....Bravo!!

Saludos de Alemania!!