Mayflower Compact of 1620 (get over it. it's a dead document!)

[MichaelRShelton]

Cool goggles dude.

[320iguy]

@MichaelRShelton they aren't goggles but thanks :P

[320iguy]

blocked

[Ak47x1]

Yank pussy fucking fag yank boy no wonder you lost in iraq ytou would have lost in 2001 but we saved you once again fucking fags

[320iguy]

Blocked

[320iguy]

what ever 2 outta 45 isn't a bad statistic, oh and how did the Boer wars work out for you limeys? oh yeah you let a bunch of mob of natives run you out LMAO that's pathetic, at least the Viet Cong had guns! LMAO the English don't lose wars because they do not get involved in them since the war of Independence seriously you need to read more about the topic you r4eally sound ridiculous arguing the same point over and over. oh yeah and you're a sick fuck!

[320iguy]

AFTER??? LULz im done with you.... you don't even have the decency to know what you are talking about. how is it the "front" lines were in France? and that was 1939... you're as stupid as you are English. get a grip. your anger is a scary thing, why are you so caught on the "daddy beat me" thing? and do you like choking women because you're pissed off at you mom for letting your father kick your ass? ROFL you are dumb...

[320iguy]

your ignorant and offensive, not only that but you have no idea what you are talking about the Americans stop Germany in there tracks you sick fuck if you re post here i am going to block you your a sick stupid cowardice douche bag.

[320iguy]

no you did not, you fascist douche bag, The people that came here were English and they were from the UK however they declared independence from England and no you didn't help American war efforts you military sucks a kangaroo tail, the British commandos are pussy cats compared to the US marines. and by the way England got there ass handed to them in Vietnam first, that's why we were there in the first place ass hat. read a book

[320iguy]

yeah what ever try getting an education from a history book not the tall tales of you gov't ROFLMAO

[320iguy]

D00D you are a total asshole, go find some one esle to bother.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

blocked?

[320iguy]

not you. the other person leaving rude comments on the forum.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

James Madison, the primary author of the Constitution of the United States, said this: "We have staked the whole future of all our political constitutions upon the capacity of each of ourselves to govern ourselves according to the moral principles of the Ten Commandments."

[320iguy]

so?

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

i was just making a point , the same point the mayflower compact did, the same point the declaration of independence makes,which is the same poing the 1st Amendmment makes and the same point the federalist papers sanctify , which is the frame of mind our founding fathers were in when our nations greatest documents were written and signed in.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

when these men had a problem they needed to overcome they turned to the one thing they brought from england that they believed would help them set our nation aside from england. the Geneva Breeches. the reformation is the reason we have a 1st ammendment

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

Pilgrims were separatists from the Anglican Church in England. They were protestants who did not recognize the authority of the Anglican Church and formed their own Puritan church. To escape persecution and possible imprisonment, they actually fled England for Holland in 1607. They lived in Holland for awhile before deciding to create their own colony in the New World

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

The Mayflower Compact is often cited as one of the foundations of the US Constitution. The story of its creation begins with the Pilgrims in England. Since the new location for their colony was outside the areas claimed by the two chartered joint-stock companies, they considered themselves technically independent and created their own government under the Mayflower Compact.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

The Mayflower Compact was the foundational document for the Plymouth Colony. The fact that it was a covenant whereby the settlers would subordinate their rights to follow laws passed by the government to ensure protection and survival made it a unique document. As previously stated, it set a precedent and was indeed an influential document for the founding fathers as they created the US Constitution.

[320iguy]

they don't even have an origami copy if the MFC. that's how important it was. the fact of the matter is the US constitution it the king of America and it has no specific god.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

and why do you think today The Declaration of Independence is so highly guarded? the point is not the it was lost it is that it was ever written at all. the frame of mind the people who wrote it were in when they risked their lives writting it. it was a pact.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

the comparison of the two ducuments is amazing,from the Declaration "we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor." the Compact do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together into a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. But Athiest dont believe in a Creator and thats ok the founders made sure our government couldnt force you to believe otherwise. the way English law did. do you understand what your 1st Ammendment is. eitherway its obvious in our documments whom and what they put their trust in.

[320iguy]

you dont have to believe in god to be 'endowed by a creator'. stop being narrow minded.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

In the begining there were only 2 types of Christians here those who paid penance and those who did not those who did read the 1611 King James and those who felt they were free thinking enough for themselves to talk to God and ask Christ for forgivness themselves chose not to pay penance. and they read the roughly the Geneva Bible the one bible not corupted by the English or motivated by anything but the truth within the true words of God, brought on by the Protestant reformation.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

The Protestant Reformation. is the reason people fled from europe, because they were tired of being told by priest and kings that they were not worthy to speak to God on their own, when the very purpose of the New Testement was just that. in other words refused to pay for forgivness because Christ assured us this gift is free. hence the 95 theses Martin Luther nailed to the door of the Church, because he knew the truth he read and wrote greek ,hebrew and Aramaic Christs own language.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

Puritans were English Protestants who wished to reform -- to purify -- the Church of England of what they considered to be unacceptable residues of Roman Catholicism. In the 1620s leaders of the English state and church grew increasingly unsympathetic to Puritan demands and insisted that they conform to religious practices that they abhorred, removing their ministers from office and threatening them with "extirpation from the earth" if they did not fall in line.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

Zealous Puritan laymen received savage punishments; one, for example, in 1630 was sentenced to life imprisonment, had his property confiscated, his nose slit, an ear cut off and his forehead branded "S.S." (sower of sedition)

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

Although victims of religious persecution in Europe, the Puritans supported the Old World theory that sanctioned it, that of the necessity of a uniformity of religion in the state. The Puritan procedure was to expel dissenters from their colonies, a fate that in 1636 befell Roger Williams and in 1638 Anne Hutchinson, America's first major female religious leader. Those who defied the Puritans by persistently returning to their jurisdictions risked capital punishment.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

a penalty imposed on four Quakers between 1659 and 1661. Reflecting on the 17th century's intolerance, Thomas Jefferson was unwilling to concede to Virginians any moral superiority to the Puritans.

[320iguy]

you are lossing me, there seems to be no justification for any of these comments. not to be rude but none of this seems to be relevant to the topic of the fact or fiction of the "Christian" America. I mean is it so wrong that we are a nation of all and NO religion. wouldn't you say (even having a christian bias) that that would leave the country to more fair rules and legislation?

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

Of the first 108 universities founded in America, 106 were distinctly Christian, including the first, Harvard University, chartered in 1636. In the original Harvard Student Handbook, rule number 1 was that students seeking entrance must know Latin and Greek so that they could study the Scriptures:

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

"Let every student be plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to consider well, the main end of his life and studies, is, to know God and Jesus Christ, which is eternal life, John 17:3; and therefore to lay Jesus Christ as the only foundation for our children to follow the moral principles of the Ten Commandments.

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William Holmes McGuffey is the author of the McGuffey Reader, which was used for over 100 years in our public schools with over 125 million copies sold until it was stopped in 1963. President Lincoln called him the "Schoolmaster of the Nation." Listen to these word of Mr. McGuffey: "The Christian religion is the religion of our country. From it are derived our nation, on the character of God, on the great moral Governor of the universe.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

On its doctrines are founded the peculiarities of our free Institutions. From no source has the author drawn more conspicuously than from the sacred Scriptures. >From all these extracts from the Bible, I make no apology

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

In 1782, the United States Congress voted this resolution: "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

Calvin Coolidge, our 30th President of the United States reaffirmed this truth when he wrote, "The foundations of our society and our government rest so much on the teachings of the Bible that it would be difficult to support them if faith in these teachings would cease to be practically universal in our country."

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

On July 4, 1821, President Adams said, "The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: "It connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity."

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

Consider these words that Thomas Jefferson wrote in the front of his well-worn Bible: "I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus. I have little doubt that our whole country will soon be rallied to the unity of our creator." He was also the chairman of the American Bible Society, which he considered his highest and most important role.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

Was Patrick Henry a Christian? The following year, 1776, he wrote this: "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great Nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths have been afforded freedom of worship here."

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

These sentences have been erased from our textbooks.

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

Here is what he actually said: "An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death

[ASONOFUNCLESAM]

Give me liberty or give me death"; but in current textbooks, the context of these words is omitted.

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Patrick Henry, who is called the firebrand of the American Revolution, is still remembered for his words

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Did you know that 52 of the 55 signers of "The Declaration of Independence" were orthodox, deeply committed, Christians? The other three all believed in the Bible as the divine truth, the God of scripture, and His personal intervention. It is the same Congress that formed the American Bible Society, immediately after creating the Declaration of Independence, the Continental Congress voted to purchase and import 20,000 copies of Scripture for the people of this nation.

[320iguy]

go fuck yourself, I have no god. and why is it that people say "as American as apple pie?

and while your at it don't forget my Escalade, and my Nike shoes, and my visa gold card, and my European vacations. am i leaving out any more stereotypes ? you buck tooth limey?