The ones you mentioned are too expensive. I'm looking at the Dr. Heater, Duraflame, and Redcore (can get it at K Mart). What do you think of these cheaper ones?
Compare your electric bills to see if you are in the clear; mine jumped by 60% and I just got enough heat to take the chill out of a room about 600 square feet in size;
Google edenpure reviews! Yikes...be aware of any "the truth about" sites, they are secondhand sites by the manufacturer acting like reviewers, if a normal person sounds like a commercial its probably a "manufactured" review!
i was given a Lifesmart heater as a gift. from day one it was horribly loud. let it go as i couldn't return it (no receipt) and figured maybe it would settle in. 1 yr later decided to contact manufacture. sent them an email explaining my situation. got a reply the next day, the following day they shipped me a new motor with installation instructions. that was as hassle free as it gets.
So, say what you will, but in my case what you are saying about lifesmart warranted product is not true.
I don't trust any space heater. If it is strong enough to heat a room, it's strong enough to cause a fire.
I've got a simple but nice looking cast iron stove fake fireplace. A very small light bulb, and blower to blow the fake flames. It doesn't generate heat at all, but provides a nice ambience to my living room.
Seriously, DON'T risk your lives or the lives of your family with a heater, profane, gas, or infrared. it's simply not worth it.
"1W in=1W out" does not say what FORM the watt out takes-- why, for example, does a CFL that puts out the same amount of light as a 60W incandescent bulb use only 13W? It's pretty obvious, when you realize that MOST of the energy output of an incandescent light is in the form of HEAT, not LIGHT. Also, WHERE is the heater heating? Are you heating a large area evenly? Or overheating a small area? And no, it's not bullshit to ask whether a device is heating air particles or water particles.
@nikflorida You can't heat the air without also heating the moisture; a mixture of gasses and vapors only has one temperature; if a heater could only heat certain molecules, the heat would migrate almost instantly to the ones that weren't heated. Where the heat goes matters, though. If hot air migrates to the ceiling, more of the heat output will radiated (or just leak) out. The ideal heat would be radiant heat from an insulated floor; no stand alone heater comes close to that.
Jesus my mom bought one of these edenpure heaters for $400. I told her it was a scam even before she bought it. She didn't listen, and now she denies it's terrible even though it is.
It's amazing that this country allows such obvious scam companies to exist. All electric heaters have the exact same efficiency. One watt in, one watt out. A $15 cube heater you can buy at Wal-Mart has the exact same efficiency. The claims regarding humidity are bogus also. Warmer air holds more moisture and thus the relative humidity level goes down.
We have the Comfort Furnace quartz infrared heater upstairs in the hallway near the bedrooms. it keeps them warm. We also have the Dr. heater Quartz + PTC $200 heater to heat the living room downstairs. I don't even remember the last time I turned the furnace on. These cut my bills down and pay for themselves in a couple of months of use. It's always good to search for a good one though!
COMFORT FURNACE - The major importer now 'Living Well,LLC'formerly 'Comfort Living'of Brookfield Mo. - Manufactured by Wells Electronics, previously sold as Comfort Zone heaters. Now Wells and Living Well will not honor the 3 year warranty on the heaters to do repairs. Now they want me to buy their new heater, what makes me think they will not defraud the public further and change their company and product names again?
COMFORT FURNACE - The major importer now 'Living Well,LLC'formerly 'Comfort Living'of Brookfield Mo. - Manufactured by Wells Electronics, previously sold as Comfort Zone heaters. Now Wells and Living Well will not honor the 3 year warranty on the heaters to do repairs. Now they want me to buy their new heater, what makes me think they will not defraud the public further and change their company and product names again?
an equally good (and compact) heater for a fraction of the price ($25-30) of one of those big, boxy hype-filled can be found at a wide variety of places, unlike the Edenpure and related units. All ya need for a house with cats, or dogs, or kids is a tipover switch and supervision. besides, what if a kid gets something in the intake (or output) slot and starts a fire?
r u crazy all these heater r good for heating not money, i even happen to own one and it really heats my house so don't even try it. i bet u don't even own one.
Yes all of these heaters are good for heating. If you get the point here, it is more about the fact that many companies are not in it for long-term.
There is huge differences in safety as well. Through my experience, I have seen them fried and melted. Buy cheap at your own risk. Keep in mind this is your house you are talking about.
Are you comfortable leaving the cheap model unattended?
If this has been around since the 80s and this is the first time I've heard of them, then they must suck. I'm still trying to figure out how fast they work and how good they do work. I'm still doing some more research on them to figure out if it is good for me.
True, you can go to Wal-Mart and get a 1500 Watt heater for $39.99 but that heater will cost you $200 a month to run. A 1500 Watt unit with no way to regulate the transfer from electricity to heat will pull 1500 Watts the entire time it's on. There are Infrared heaters out there technologically advanced enough to run for about $1 a day. Obviously, use common sense, whoever uploaded this video more than likely sells the 3 brands listed.
Actaully I don't sell the three brands. However, I do prefer one of them.
Expect to pay more than a $1 a day that is an amount from like 4 years ago. Expect a minimum of $1.45 a day. Compare that to most other forms of heat such as Propane, oil or pellet stoves. I know someone paying $5 a day for pellets.
If on all the time, this will use 36kw hours or $4.32 per day @ $0.12/KWh which is the national average. Obviously, a small room wouldn't require the heater to be on all the time. So, $1.45 or $1/day is very misleading.
You need to compare apples to apples. Knowing someone that spends $5/day on pellets doesn't mean pellets are expensive.
@$250/ton, wood pellets cost $18.37 per MBTU. Electricity at $0.12/KW/h is $35.29 per MBTU. @$3.75/gal, #2 fuel oil is $33.59 per MBTU.
@cebrauer What do you base your statement on friend? The laws of physics say you're wrong. Even at 100% efficiency (which I guarantee these don't reach) it takes 1 watt of energy, in this case electricity, to produce 1 watt of energy, in this case BTU's. Therefore, 1500 watts is 1500 watts, whatever the heater....period! So if you pay 0.1 cent per watt, then that's what you pay irregardless of the heater. Sorry, but you statement simply isn't factual and is scientifically unsound.
@OriginalAstroTard you seem like a logical fellow so i'd like to point out the fallacy in your argument.
1: you said "Even at 100% efficiency (which I guarantee these don't reach)" well efficiency is the question and his proposed statement is that the infrared heater is more efficient.
2: you also said "Therefore, 1500 watts is 1500 watts, whatever the heater" but he already stated that the conventional heaters run constantly whereas the infrared don't. the infrared have a built in thermostat.
@cebrauer In terms of heat output per watt, all stand-alone electric heaters, from a $10 plastic piece of trash from Wall Mart to a $400 over-hyped infomercial star are 100% efficient, no more, no less. Across the price range, some heat the air more while others heat objects in the room, which could affect how efficiently the heat is used, but all electric resistance heat is going to cost more than gas and probably a bit more than oil. The "advanced technology" talk is 100% hype.
all of them are junk no matter what brand,ive tried them all its ok if you just want a little extra heat in one room but if you buy this to heat your house its not going to happen,and most of them cost around 600.00 so if you just want a little extra heat go to walmart and buy a 1500 watt heater for 39.97 and save the rest of your money.
No they are not all junk. Have you really tried them all? Did you use it with the right expectations or buy into the hype that some express?
Here is the deal. I have two of one of the brands listed and it is my primary heat source. I have a friend that converted his 2800 sq.ft home over to 4 of them.
However, these are supplemental heaters designed to help you cut heating cost by reducing dependency on more expensive forms of heat.
@productsexposed There is no more expensive source of heat than electric resistance heating. If you want to market a product, at least be honest about it.
You are in trouble when you start believing your own BS.
1. 1500 watts is 1500 watts. Einstein's Law of the Conservation of Energy. Energy cannot be created therefore, same input same output.
2. All I have seen for sale DO have thermostats.
3. ALL are UL listed and therefore considered safe.
4. To remove moisture from air you must lower the air temperature to it's dew point where it will condense and can be collected... like in a dehumidifier.
@erniemoe I have a 750 watt power supply for my computer. The components inside only draw from 550-250 from that power supply, depending on if I am doing something taxing on the system. Am I always drawing 750 watts?
No, I only draw what the components draw.
These can supply up to 1500 watts, but they do not always draw 1500. If they only need 860, they only draw 860. If they only need 2, they only draw 2. If they need 1500, they draw 1500.
@PepperNigger The other less expensive and "magical" heaters like an oil filled heater have high and low settings along with thermostats. Like your power supply example, the heater will only draw the amount of power it requires to maintain room temperature according to the thermostat and selected low, medium, or high power settings. Take a moment and watch Eden Pure Heater Test by kdaveem. Not exactly a lab setting, but concurs with basic common sense and physics.
@productsexposed I haven't seen a heater in years without either a thermostat or a cycling regulator (which is typically found on all-radiant-infrared units like quartz heaters), even the $10 plastic ones have thermostats. The $20 all-metal "worksite" models are a great buy; no exposed elements, no plastic to burn. The only advantage I see to models described here is that they can sit in the middle of a room and don't tip easily. I'd still keep kids away from one, though.
The ones you mentioned are too expensive. I'm looking at the Dr. Heater, Duraflame, and Redcore (can get it at K Mart). What do you think of these cheaper ones?
miketh2005 1 month ago
Compare your electric bills to see if you are in the clear; mine jumped by 60% and I just got enough heat to take the chill out of a room about 600 square feet in size;
danallstar356 2 months ago
Google edenpure reviews! Yikes...be aware of any "the truth about" sites, they are secondhand sites by the manufacturer acting like reviewers, if a normal person sounds like a commercial its probably a "manufactured" review!
epiultra 2 months ago
my plasma tv makes our family room so nice and toasty
cloned2 2 months ago
Thank you
weshine4Him 3 months ago
Buy a vornado. Excellent heaters, not this infrared kinda crap.
hobeeami 3 months ago
i was given a Lifesmart heater as a gift. from day one it was horribly loud. let it go as i couldn't return it (no receipt) and figured maybe it would settle in. 1 yr later decided to contact manufacture. sent them an email explaining my situation. got a reply the next day, the following day they shipped me a new motor with installation instructions. that was as hassle free as it gets.
So, say what you will, but in my case what you are saying about lifesmart warranted product is not true.
cubbearbob 4 months ago
thank you
oiltrain 5 months ago
can anybody help me?
i want to get one,should i?
money is very tight and i want it to heat me as only heater in appartment
2000W one.
will the infrared lamp heat apartment?
they seem fishy to me.
tnx
erwcat 6 months ago
@erwcat Check Consumer Reports' comments on these overpriced heaters before wasting your money.
markhinr 3 months ago
A rip-off marketer warning us about other rip-off marketers.
markhinr 8 months ago 3
I don't trust any space heater. If it is strong enough to heat a room, it's strong enough to cause a fire.
I've got a simple but nice looking cast iron stove fake fireplace. A very small light bulb, and blower to blow the fake flames. It doesn't generate heat at all, but provides a nice ambience to my living room.
Seriously, DON'T risk your lives or the lives of your family with a heater, profane, gas, or infrared. it's simply not worth it.
ReviewCam 10 months ago
I'm wary of any review that misspells 'haul'
bradbaby 1 year ago
"1W in=1W out" does not say what FORM the watt out takes-- why, for example, does a CFL that puts out the same amount of light as a 60W incandescent bulb use only 13W? It's pretty obvious, when you realize that MOST of the energy output of an incandescent light is in the form of HEAT, not LIGHT. Also, WHERE is the heater heating? Are you heating a large area evenly? Or overheating a small area? And no, it's not bullshit to ask whether a device is heating air particles or water particles.
nikflorida 1 year ago
@nikflorida You can't heat the air without also heating the moisture; a mixture of gasses and vapors only has one temperature; if a heater could only heat certain molecules, the heat would migrate almost instantly to the ones that weren't heated. Where the heat goes matters, though. If hot air migrates to the ceiling, more of the heat output will radiated (or just leak) out. The ideal heat would be radiant heat from an insulated floor; no stand alone heater comes close to that.
lrd9999 1 month ago
Jesus my mom bought one of these edenpure heaters for $400. I told her it was a scam even before she bought it. She didn't listen, and now she denies it's terrible even though it is.
TheJeffdabomb 1 year ago 2
It's amazing that this country allows such obvious scam companies to exist. All electric heaters have the exact same efficiency. One watt in, one watt out. A $15 cube heater you can buy at Wal-Mart has the exact same efficiency. The claims regarding humidity are bogus also. Warmer air holds more moisture and thus the relative humidity level goes down.
pianodarr 1 year ago 2
edenpure suck. i waisted 600$+ and after 200hrs there in the dump.pleas dont waist your mony!
238raymo 1 year ago 3
We have the Comfort Furnace quartz infrared heater upstairs in the hallway near the bedrooms. it keeps them warm. We also have the Dr. heater Quartz + PTC $200 heater to heat the living room downstairs. I don't even remember the last time I turned the furnace on. These cut my bills down and pay for themselves in a couple of months of use. It's always good to search for a good one though!
Thewoog34 1 year ago
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COMFORT FURNACE - The major importer now 'Living Well,LLC'formerly 'Comfort Living'of Brookfield Mo. - Manufactured by Wells Electronics, previously sold as Comfort Zone heaters. Now Wells and Living Well will not honor the 3 year warranty on the heaters to do repairs. Now they want me to buy their new heater, what makes me think they will not defraud the public further and change their company and product names again?
uscustomer2010 1 year ago
COMFORT FURNACE - The major importer now 'Living Well,LLC'formerly 'Comfort Living'of Brookfield Mo. - Manufactured by Wells Electronics, previously sold as Comfort Zone heaters. Now Wells and Living Well will not honor the 3 year warranty on the heaters to do repairs. Now they want me to buy their new heater, what makes me think they will not defraud the public further and change their company and product names again?
uscustomer2010 1 year ago 3
an equally good (and compact) heater for a fraction of the price ($25-30) of one of those big, boxy hype-filled can be found at a wide variety of places, unlike the Edenpure and related units. All ya need for a house with cats, or dogs, or kids is a tipover switch and supervision. besides, what if a kid gets something in the intake (or output) slot and starts a fire?
HappyDiscoDeath 1 year ago 2
r u crazy all these heater r good for heating not money, i even happen to own one and it really heats my house so don't even try it. i bet u don't even own one.
treegrow11 2 years ago
@treegrow11
Yes all of these heaters are good for heating. If you get the point here, it is more about the fact that many companies are not in it for long-term.
There is huge differences in safety as well. Through my experience, I have seen them fried and melted. Buy cheap at your own risk. Keep in mind this is your house you are talking about.
Are you comfortable leaving the cheap model unattended?
productsexposed 1 year ago
If this has been around since the 80s and this is the first time I've heard of them, then they must suck. I'm still trying to figure out how fast they work and how good they do work. I'm still doing some more research on them to figure out if it is good for me.
lXlSnype 2 years ago
@lXlSnype
Yes they do work. It is the quality, longevity and safety that differs.
The reason you may not have heard of them even though the Solar Comfort was around since 1980's is that they do not advertise but use dealerships.
productsexposed 1 year ago
True, you can go to Wal-Mart and get a 1500 Watt heater for $39.99 but that heater will cost you $200 a month to run. A 1500 Watt unit with no way to regulate the transfer from electricity to heat will pull 1500 Watts the entire time it's on. There are Infrared heaters out there technologically advanced enough to run for about $1 a day. Obviously, use common sense, whoever uploaded this video more than likely sells the 3 brands listed.
cebrauer 2 years ago
@cebrauer
Actaully I don't sell the three brands. However, I do prefer one of them.
Expect to pay more than a $1 a day that is an amount from like 4 years ago. Expect a minimum of $1.45 a day. Compare that to most other forms of heat such as Propane, oil or pellet stoves. I know someone paying $5 a day for pellets.
productsexposed 1 year ago
@productsexposed
If on all the time, this will use 36kw hours or $4.32 per day @ $0.12/KWh which is the national average. Obviously, a small room wouldn't require the heater to be on all the time. So, $1.45 or $1/day is very misleading.
You need to compare apples to apples. Knowing someone that spends $5/day on pellets doesn't mean pellets are expensive.
@$250/ton, wood pellets cost $18.37 per MBTU. Electricity at $0.12/KW/h is $35.29 per MBTU. @$3.75/gal, #2 fuel oil is $33.59 per MBTU.
fubecabr 4 months ago 2
@cebrauer
Actually many, if not all the heaters at China*Mart have thermostats in them and don't pull 1500W all the time. 1500W is 5100BTU, period.
You can't get around the laws of thermodynamics. It takes a fixed amount of energy to heat a room and it doesn't matter the method used to heat it.
Obviously, use common sense. Every heater is infrared to some extent. The warmth you feel on your face from a fire is infrared.
fubecabr 4 months ago 3
@cebrauer What do you base your statement on friend? The laws of physics say you're wrong. Even at 100% efficiency (which I guarantee these don't reach) it takes 1 watt of energy, in this case electricity, to produce 1 watt of energy, in this case BTU's. Therefore, 1500 watts is 1500 watts, whatever the heater....period! So if you pay 0.1 cent per watt, then that's what you pay irregardless of the heater. Sorry, but you statement simply isn't factual and is scientifically unsound.
OriginalAstroTard 3 months ago 2
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@OriginalAstroTard you seem like a logical fellow so i'd like to point out the fallacy in your argument.
1: you said "Even at 100% efficiency (which I guarantee these don't reach)" well efficiency is the question and his proposed statement is that the infrared heater is more efficient.
2: you also said "Therefore, 1500 watts is 1500 watts, whatever the heater" but he already stated that the conventional heaters run constantly whereas the infrared don't. the infrared have a built in thermostat.
Sellingicetoeskimos 3 months ago
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@cebrauer "There are Infrared heaters out there technologically advanced enough to run for about $1 a day." Not true!
markhinr 3 months ago
@cebrauer In terms of heat output per watt, all stand-alone electric heaters, from a $10 plastic piece of trash from Wall Mart to a $400 over-hyped infomercial star are 100% efficient, no more, no less. Across the price range, some heat the air more while others heat objects in the room, which could affect how efficiently the heat is used, but all electric resistance heat is going to cost more than gas and probably a bit more than oil. The "advanced technology" talk is 100% hype.
lrd9999 1 month ago
I wish there was a USB powered heater! ;-D
ryanthescooterguy 2 years ago 6
@ryanthescooterguy me too, got this big clunky honeywell oil heater near my desk.. I tend to get chilled real easy:(
grettagrids 3 months ago
@ryanthescooterguy Why?
miketh2005 1 month ago
all of them are junk no matter what brand,ive tried them all its ok if you just want a little extra heat in one room but if you buy this to heat your house its not going to happen,and most of them cost around 600.00 so if you just want a little extra heat go to walmart and buy a 1500 watt heater for 39.97 and save the rest of your money.
bi79yt 2 years ago 5
@bi79yt
No they are not all junk. Have you really tried them all? Did you use it with the right expectations or buy into the hype that some express?
Here is the deal. I have two of one of the brands listed and it is my primary heat source. I have a friend that converted his 2800 sq.ft home over to 4 of them.
However, these are supplemental heaters designed to help you cut heating cost by reducing dependency on more expensive forms of heat.
productsexposed 1 year ago
@productsexposed There is no more expensive source of heat than electric resistance heating. If you want to market a product, at least be honest about it.
markhinr 3 months ago 3
@bi79yt
Oh one other thing. You CAN NOT get the same performance from a 1500watt heater for $39.97. Not going to happen!
1.) you will find the do not heat much of an area as they don't have much of a fan if any.
2.) they typically don't have a thermostats
3.) they are dangerous and should NOT be left unattended
4.) The non infrared heaters dry your air like a hair dryer. Removing water from your air is not good for you, your furniture nor heating.
productsexposed 1 year ago
@productsexposed
1. the fan doesn't affect how much heat is put out, only how fast the heat circulates
2. The cheapest heater on walmart d o t com for $35 has a thermostat.
walmart d o t com/ip/Howard-Berger-Comfort-Zone-Ceramic-Heater/16678226
3. The $35 heater also has an automatic overheat protection, tip-over switch, and is ETL approved for safety.
4. You cannot remove water from the air by heating it. You lower the relative humidity when heating it, but the water content stays the same.
fubecabr 4 months ago 2
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OriginalAstroTard 3 months ago
You are in trouble when you start believing your own BS.
1. 1500 watts is 1500 watts. Einstein's Law of the Conservation of Energy. Energy cannot be created therefore, same input same output.
2. All I have seen for sale DO have thermostats.
3. ALL are UL listed and therefore considered safe.
4. To remove moisture from air you must lower the air temperature to it's dew point where it will condense and can be collected... like in a dehumidifier.
erniemoe 2 months ago 4
@erniemoe I have a 750 watt power supply for my computer. The components inside only draw from 550-250 from that power supply, depending on if I am doing something taxing on the system. Am I always drawing 750 watts?
No, I only draw what the components draw.
These can supply up to 1500 watts, but they do not always draw 1500. If they only need 860, they only draw 860. If they only need 2, they only draw 2. If they need 1500, they draw 1500.
PepperNigger 2 months ago
@PepperNigger The other less expensive and "magical" heaters like an oil filled heater have high and low settings along with thermostats. Like your power supply example, the heater will only draw the amount of power it requires to maintain room temperature according to the thermostat and selected low, medium, or high power settings. Take a moment and watch Eden Pure Heater Test by kdaveem. Not exactly a lab setting, but concurs with basic common sense and physics.
erniemoe 1 month ago
@productsexposed I haven't seen a heater in years without either a thermostat or a cycling regulator (which is typically found on all-radiant-infrared units like quartz heaters), even the $10 plastic ones have thermostats. The $20 all-metal "worksite" models are a great buy; no exposed elements, no plastic to burn. The only advantage I see to models described here is that they can sit in the middle of a room and don't tip easily. I'd still keep kids away from one, though.
lrd9999 1 month ago