Magpul PMags running in a FN M249 SAW

[a9653192]

I would HATE to brass call or police call that range!!! Hooray for PFC's and privates.

[Reynard13Fuchs]

This is only ONE reason why I procured PMags for my deployment.

[Alexmx126]

My unit has actually been banned from using our PMAGs. God forbid I use something other than the government issued shit. Figure that one out

[samtaekwondo123]

I wonder if SureFire's 'High Capacity' magazines will have the same reliability with this kind of test.

[migkillertwo]

I say call your congressman and tell them to replace our GI mags with these!

[MrThomPS3]

Very nice, I expected it to jam like crazy.

[MrLethalfire]

Haha that looks cool as hell

[John234pwns]

Don't AR mags get significantly damaged from the bolt when fed into a SAW? At least that's what I heard happens to the USGI mags.

[jubinizzle]

This video proves that the mags can keep up, yes. But I still can't bring myself to trust PMags. The feed lips just look WAY too thin, and it seems to me they could be prone to warping or breaking if dropped.

I know I very well could be wrong, but it's just the way I see them

[lt4444444]

thts a gun when you want to hunker down and destroy some shit

[redmule02]

being that the saw was built as a belt feed weapon using mags on that platform should only be in a last resort or maybe a training purpose. like trying to run a corvette on a go kart race track

[tommis865]

im not trying to be a smartass but dosent the barrel get to hot if you fire that much that fast instead of burst firing?

[klined]

Pmags work great in SAWs. GI mags...not so great. A few other mags work well in them, though. You CAN modified USGI mags to work better in them but why?

[USMCM249gunner]

actually listening to the military bitch is another bad move. Its only an excuse for contractors to get in on a some money by inventing some hi speed low drag accesory and sell it for 2x more.

Same shit with the IAR, we dont need a fucking a 30rd mag fed M4 type carbine, when we have the 249.

same kind of thinking brought about the change from the M14 to the M16, the grunts never bitched about the M14

[John234pwns]

@USMCM249gunner If we only used mag-fed rifles, we wouldn't need the 249, would we? A couple of my buddies in the services said they would really like if they axed the gun altogether and just issued FA ARs with drums.

[USMCM249gunner]

@John234pwns

an auto rifle would hugely decrease our firepower on the lowest (team) level

The USMC is replacing 1/4 of its SAWs with the IAR, a weapon that will set us back 90 years in LMG development....back to the concept of the BAR. I only hope this change means more M240s dismounted with the rifle squads. We're going up against PKMs in A-stan, and those things are a serious threat that cannot be dealt with auto rifles

[John234pwns]

@USMCM249gunner Oh, yeah. 5.56mm is shit against hard targets. The extra firepower would mean a whole lot I'd assume.

[megatron515]

Wow... I can agree with Magpul.. the USGI mags are notoriously faulty in a 249, regardless of whether the mag or the weapon is new or old. That is common knowledge in the line units. Seeing this video just reinforces my faith in pmags. great job magpul.

[trholy25]

thx for sharing my favorite..

[mbenson2790]

how the fuck do you get that?

[NorStarReviews]

First you have to find one (Pre-ban). Get yourself a Class 3 license. Pay a $400 tax stamp. Live in the right states. Then gather up 5-9k to buy it.

[topher81807]

Wrong. You dont need a license. Only the uninformed are the ones who think that. The NFA (National Firearms Act) states you go to a Class 3 dealer, fill out form #4, attach a passport photo, attach 2 fingerprint cards both signed by your local county sheriff or chief of police, send all that into the ATF with a $200 tax stamp and wait 4-8 weeks for the background check to clear. Only dealers need a Class 3 license dumbass, not citizens....

[sdmopar]

@mbenson2790

Or you just join the Marines, I got mine for free, I'd rather pay though

[mbenson2790]

@sdmopar you get to keep it after USMC??

[sdmopar]

@mbenson2790 No, I wish!

[XsiaxjaiX]

Should definately get some for rifle quals to avoid failure to feeds.

[GadgetsNGear]

Magpul P mags are sexy.... I never thought I would say that about a magazine that wasn't made of paper.

[DeltaWinters88]

BLEHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Enjoying dat porno eh?

[Airsoftsniping101]

@skogstrollet75 What are you talking about? He has the gun shouldered to his right shoulder how could he reload with his right hand when the mag well is on the left? same with any weapon you do not use your right hand for reloads when you are shouldered to the right.

[kullwarrior]

not always the case if the firearm is too heavy it might be a good idea to keep the left hand on the forearm to support it.

[USMCM249gunner]

gimme a fuckin break.

everyones bitching about the SAW jamming from mags,

there were times Id go out with 15 mags, cause we had no linked.

in 6-7,000 rds that I did fire, I had less jams than I could count on my left hand.

[Magpul]

Everyone is bitching because the M249 SAW has been noted by the military itself to run poorly when using the mag fed option.

My time with a USMC M249 and owning the one above fresh from the FN factory has only confirmed the military view of this.

The PMags provide a greater level of reliability in the M249 as noted by the US Army Training facility at Fort Polk.

[USMCM249gunner]

you can pull this whole marketing shit all you want.

Ive put my life and trust into that 16lbs of steel, and its served me well in all conditions.

mags, belts....with low lubrication.

2 out of every 4 SAW gunners in my experience have bitched about getting stuck with the weapon and adopted the same bullshit excuses to tell

same bitching helped get rid of alot of good weapons....now that IAR is gonna reduce our ROF dramatically

[korn6499]

how did you go about legally owning that?

[rotorleopard]

It's Class III tax stamp. You have to pay another $300-400 every year to renew it.

[ceverest2]

i dont think you need to renew it every year, its a $200 tax stamp at the time of purchase....

and awesome test, I have never fired USGI mags on a SAW without it jamming or misfeeding on me.

[rotorleopard]

I might have mistaken that with an FFL. I'm not certain.

[ceverest2]

i dont know how it works for an FFL, but I think you are thinking of a class 3 dealer license. My friends neighbor has one, and he pays like 200 or so a year, but he can have as many class 3 weapons as he wants for sale under that license. however for a personal class 3 license on a weapon you own, its a one time 200 dollar tax stamp.

[BlurredFace]

@Magpul Not to mention mag feeding was intended as a BACKUP.

[csmybuttt]

@USMCM249gunner You sound like you're missing some fingers.

[USMCM249gunner]

@csmybuttt

like I said, I fired 7,000 rds in 3 wks and had less than 5 jams

in a 1,000 mag fed rds I had maybe 3 of those jams

[csmybuttt]

@USMCM249gunner I knew what you mean, haha. For some reason, the wording made me think that you were missing a few digits.

[80spodcastchannel]

WOW...most GI mags are jamomatics when used like this,the Rate of fire is HIGHER with mags..PMAGS RULE

[AwokenDemon]

@80spodcastchannel thats because millitary equipment is secured from the lowest bidder that meet thier qualifications. sadly the the qualifications are very low because there are so much better equipment out there. they're just too expensive.(same happend to dragon skin bodyarmor)

[jebustheone]

@AwokenDemon not to offend but you are talking out of your ass.

[42ndAirsoftLegion]

quick question: when you pull back on the charging handle, will it automatically go forward again (like most guns) or do you have to manually push it forward like an m60?

[JTP709]

The M249 fires from the open bolt, rather than a closed bolt like an M4/M16. So the bolt is actually locked back automatically after every burst of fire, and fires from the open position after you reload.

[Crim15]

Regularly, it has to be racked back and forth so the bolt carrier doesn't slam it forward when firing..

[USMCM249gunner]

no, with all Fabrique Nationale machine guns, you have to push the charging handle back into the forward position, its not attached to the bolt group.

the tank/LAV coax 240 coax has a spring attached to the charging handle so it springs back into the forward pos.

[esh325]

The reason why this suppose to be impressive is because typical aluminium GI mags work shitty in the SAW correct?

[USMCM249gunner]

no thats just negative feedback

[Magpul]

Incorrect, the official Military and USMC view is that the M249 SAW is problematic when using the USGI mag option.

[shaokem]

Nice!!! I love my Pmags!!! and finally I'm able to place and order and not be backordered! Also love my MS2 Sling! Keep staying on top of the game magpul! hoorah!

[joej12a]

i've never shot more than 5 rds with a standard mag in a SAW without a Failure to feed. great mags!

[GeekParallax]

When you put the magazine into the magwell, pull back slightly on the mag. You see, the front of the mag doesn't quite line up with the SAW itself. But if you pull the mag towards you, it will tilt back a bit, aligning the front of the mag with the top of the well.

Problem solved.

[bubbles867]

Best mags are the H&K STANAG mags , used em in iraq and afghan never had problem , practically indestructable

[Magpul]

HK steel Mags have been removed from the US Mil supply system due to operational problems in the field.

[bubbles867]

Well i can say from my personal experience from using them in combat , i have never had a problem

[majormayhem1]

What kind of problems were they having, I have about 30+ pmags with windows but I also have a few hk maritime mags aswell, I paid quite a bit for them and I don't want something that has defect or weakness.

[TacticalSerenity17]

@Magpul I like how magpul removes things saying that the pmag isnt the best, oh wait... it is the best! INDESTRUCTO MAG TOO THE RESCUE

[TacticalSerenity17]

@Magpul Pwned that n00b huh? Love my pmags, my MOE handgrip my MIAD my MOE trigger guard my CTR both my MBUS my ASAP my MS2 my AFG2 and my RVG. Dam it adds up over the years doesnt it

[Dman40475]

@TacticalSerenity17 No offense to magpul, they make great products, but you sound like a fanboy.

[JulioCHernandez]

@TacticalSerenity17 wow!...... someone's a Magpul Whore ha ha ha ha

[TacticalSerenity17]

@JulioCHernandez yep....

[JackSReaper]

Pogue.

[bubbles867]

Pouge? what you on bout?

[EchoOfLohengrin]

@bubbles867 HK is for mallninjas!

[thatrednosepit]

i dont know how many times that a m16 mag has fucked up my saw in the field , i mite have to pick me up some of these

[sgthooah84]

wow... thats all i have to realy say. normal issue mags jam after about 3-4 rounds, about as meny rounds as saying penut butter. if these mags work that well in a saw then thy would have to be extreamly reliable in a m-16 or m-4. nice work

[bcoyote]

Best AR mags ever....EVER.

[scubabirdsteve]

I've always been taught that you insert the magazine first, then rack the bolt. This ensures you have control of the bolt before there are any rounds loaded preventing a runaway gun. You were lucky or it was a newer SAW so the action wasn't sloppy yet.

[Longstick556]

FUCK YOU AROCK!

FREE STYERAUG!

[arandomperson3]

Why would you fuck a rock? What did the rock do to you? ':(

[winger3000]

lol?

[Philter12]

Is SteyrAUG still not free :(( dammit

[Longstick556]

No, poor steyraug got teh perma ban. Hes gone forever.

And the internet personality known as "Arock" still needs to go fuck himself.

[Philter12]

Just caught up with Arfcom 101, pity :(

[letlev]

Spent around $300 on the stuff you guys make... Love it :D

[sel36]

FUAROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[arandomperson3]

Is that some sort of new secret weapon, fuarock?

[vintagethought]

that is a whole lot of reloading for 3 secs of joy

[esh325]

The US GI mags get damaged if they are quickly slapped into the a M249 but not with PMAG, good job.

[1341usmc]

USGI mags definitely won't do that

[cjs19kilo]

Okay the point is this: The M249 is designed with the ability to accept 30-round magazines. However, this method is notoriously unreliable and only recommended as a final option when out of belted ammo. Magpul is testing some of their PMAGs here to show their superiority to USGI (Normal) magazines. Good job guys, I buy a lot of your stuff.

[Valkmir]

i was wondering why the damn they would use 30 r mags :p

but then i saw your comment ^^

thx for clearing things up mate :)

[raabgunner]

wish i had your job...

any jobs going..? ex army and bored.

a belt is a lot better then a mag fed S.W.

[suicidehz]

Nice Drake!

[SaginawGS]

Awesome! PMags are the shiznit!

[HemiiCuda]

Sweet! Fuck you arfcom!

[juki009]

Doesnt the M249 have a bolt open? So that you dont have to reach all the way on the other side to ready the weapon?

[Magpul]

The M249 is primarly a belt fed weapon that has the ability to use 30 round USGI mags in an emergency. As such it does NOT have a bolt holt open when using magazines

[juki009]

Cool...makes sense. Thanks

PS...

If you need a beta tester for the ACR in a hot and humid environment...I am formally volunteering. I currently reside here somewhere in southeast Asia. Send me a rifle and I will put 10000 round through it for you.

*place exaggerated happy face here*