Why do some people find that science leads them to God, but not others?

[XianRaodon]

beautiful talk

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@XianRaodon

Disagree. McGrath's attempted gambit is pathetic. If anything, he's arguing that, as we gain a non-mystical understanding, we can create/refine our own morality. This does not require superstitious nonsense.

[XianRaodon]

@recalibration

tell it to most high-tier physicists? they do tend to be spiritual.

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@XianRaodon

LOL.

"[...] every one who is seriously engaged in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble. The pursuit of science leads therefore to a religious feeling of a special kind, which differs essentially from the religiosity of more naive people." -- A. Einstein, 1941

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@XianRaodon

In my own exp, this sense of wonder is an invitation to learn. One may have to struggle maintaining the clarity of thought as it's not uncommon for us to want to project or anthropomorphize.

The perceived complexity of a system does not imply divinity. That would be the fallacy of argumentum ad divintas.

Cheers.

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[XianRaodon]

@recalibration

look in your channel

[beyonddeadstudio]

even if there are things that lie beyond the event horizon of our scientific understanding, why should we assume the Judea-christian god yahweh, or any other deity or god, resides beyond the horizon? Anything beyond our understanding would have absolutely no manifestation in the universe.

[eleutheromaniac]

@beyonddeadstudio IMO your mistake (which is a common one) is in thinking that the 'gods' in question are really that different & one must choose.

even a cursory glance at the various religions and mythologies of the world will show undeniable parallels. IMO, these are all branches off the same tree. It's my belief that the more religions, philosophies and mythologies one is familiar with, the clearer the picture becomes of God (or Allah, or Tao, or Nirvana, or Zeus, or Odin, or...)

[Eye2EyeIIIV]

What generations of people have got to understand is that there are two different types of "Science":

1) Observational Science ~ the type that we use to observe, study, test, & demonstrate things in the present which is from what we develop our technology from (cellphones, computers, airplanes, space shuttles, Mars rovers, lab test tubes, etc)

2) Historical Science ~ speculating about the past when we weren't there - but Someone always has - using obs. science can confirm His Word's truth! :D

[doireallyneed1]

It's pointless to argue about the question of whether or not God exists. I think most Atheists base their denial of the supernatural on the current lack of evidence while acknowleging that not all is known. If a scientific discovery came to light that revealed some indication of intelligence in nature then we could move to the real meat of the matter - What is the nature of God?