Associated Students Budget Message

[TeaParty2012]

Easy access to credit in past years has driven the costs of high education tremendously high. As a result of the 2008 economic collapse, loans have been harder to get. The next financial collapse will probably destroy much of this debt system. Which means those big items such as homes, real estate, college tuition will suffer traumatic price deflation as they're values come plummeting back down to earth. Then we'll be able to afford them without access to credit. Which is as it should be.

[JakeA0416]

Awesome video Tyler. This is what I like to see. We need to get the other AS/ASI campus leaders to do the same.

[jkatz0816]

It was actually the CSU Board of Trustees that voted and approved a fee increase of 30% over last year.

[AlterSpades]

It is simple politics. Weber in the rally will appear to be on the students' side. Then he sees that only a trickle of students joined the rally. He will think, "WOW- No one is complaining about the raised fees. I can do my next round of raised fees next semester, because it appears that no one is affected much by the recently raised fees. HOME FREE!" Come spring semester, another round of raised fees happens, just because people are too apathetic to rally. People complain but do nothing.

[rc1inc]

Point clearly taken. You are correct that he is testing the waters for another increase. The amount of protest participants may dictate what the spring semester increase will be. In fact, he probably has an equation already worked up to plug in the amount of participants for the spring fee decision. His decision is not for the current students but the fiscal health of the university 20 yrs from now.

[rayva1]

August 31st from 11:30 to 12:30 huh? Too bad I'm still at work during those hours.

[rayva1]

Speaking of job cuts, can someone tell me what the possible job outlook is for students receiving federal work study? That way I can determine if getting a job on-campus is that competitive then perhaps I'd best keep my present job. Thanks.

[AlterSpades]

"Other local colleges are also feeling the pain. But SDSU's cutbacks are particularly deep because state funding makes up 51 percent of its budget, far more than it does for University of California campuses."

":UCSD, for example, is a public university in name only with only 6 percent of its budget coming from the state."

[AlterSpades]

Isn't SDSU more of a business-type school than UCSD & they can't handle their financial affairs? SDSU needs $132M in scholarship funds to support its students. So the SDSU Prez better be shaking hands with rich people who are going to provide these scholarship funds.

A lot of these state money are going to PLUSH LIFETIME retirement funds. That's why California is in a big hole. A fire chief retires after 25+yrs at 53+ getting $125K a yr lifetime retirement. And this person has 20+ yrs to live.

[rc1inc]

Yeah, go waste an hour of your time. Do you think Stephen Weber really gives a damn. A furlough with his pay level just means more time off. A furlough to teachers means possible health benefits cut. EVERYONE should be aware they WILL increase tuition next semester. I have seen this type of behavior at private schools before. You already have invested SO deeply that you can't pull out now. The fact is that they know it. If they doubled the fee ALL seniors would pay it. Weber doesn't give a damn.

[AlterSpades]

The rally is not against Weber because he is a speaker in this rally. He is in partnership with the AS President. The rally is against the STATE for BUDGET CUTS. But some students can turn this into a mutiny on the bounty like "I can do a better job of running SDSU and not raising fees." So really, this rally is for the governator if he even sees it or gets in the news.

[AlterSpades]

rc1inc, The SDSU students/parents should show up. The reason the fees keep going up is because everybody is too busy/apathetic to complain. Weber is testing the waters as to how many students care about the raised fees. If he sees that only about 20 students joined the rally, then that gives him the license to raise the fees more because no one cared about the recently raised fees. The irony is that the parents should show up because most of them are the ones paying for college.

[JetHawk]

SDSU should use the confiscated drugs of 2007 and sell them back to the students to generate more money. Or otherwise, we should just legalize marajuana already.

[AlterSpades]

Jethawk--Yeah. No wonder a few SDSU students became drug dealers to generate money for university expenses. $8/hour jobs won't do it. They were caught in 2008. Search google for SDSU DRUG DEALERS. That's a problem there that SDSU needs to keep an eye on. SDSU can solve this by keeping the fees low. I don't want fellow SDSU students teaching me to be a drug dealer.

[hopeulikeurchange]

Just so you know, SDSU is very cheap compared to most schools. It's cheaper than New York City community colleges! Last I checked, USD tuition was about 20 large. $3000-$4000 a year is relatively a drop in the bucket compared to the vast majority of colleges around the country

[jadedspade42]

how are you gonna compare USD to a state school? USD is completely private, and for that reason it costs more

[AlterSpades]

hopeulikeurchange, USD is a PRIVATE school. So it is supposed to be much higher. SDSU is a PUBLIC university. And public universities are supposed to be funded by the state because the state is supposed to be concerned about educating the young minds to be leaders of the future. However, if the state squanders the money so that the state, local, city employees have PLUSH lifetime retirements, then yes, less money will be allocated to the state universities. Where's the gold in CA, governator?

[hopeulikeurchange]

Regardless of whether gov employees are overpaid, that is obviously not the reason for this mess.  And the California financial system has been heavily reliant on the national economy-naturally-since day 1. So when the national economy tanks so does California's. Let's not scapegoat the governor and government employees. It's not that simple--never is.

[hopeulikeurchange]

And I understand USD is a "PRIVATE" school, but it still costs 5 times as much as SDSU. Compare SDSU to PUBLIC schools in other states and it will still be vastly cheaper. Money doesn't grow on trees.

[AlterSpades]

The SDSU PRESIDENT is the most important person of the university. He should be shaking hands with the big shots in organizations and rich people including rich  people who are dying and who can provide endowment and donations to the university. Does he just sit in his office and collect his salary then raise student fees?

[AlterSpades]

My first semester at SDSU. I already paid about $4000 to attend SDSU this semester including the books/materials. I will be taking 5 classes. My family and I did not qualify for financial aid. On top of this, it is hard to find a job now. I don't want to take a loan so my savings account is depleted. I should have started at a community college. It was the worst decision of my life.

Costs for admissions application, registration, orientation, books, e-books, parking, materials, etc.

[AlterSpades]

This is the 21st century. SDSU should provide the ISBN of the books like 1 to 2 months ahead of time so the books can be ordered cheap at Amazon. I can order a $100 book for $15 at Amazon used.

[rosa2daygo]

interesting you say that because the UC's and CSU's are trying to keep community college from offering Bachelor Degrees. Education is a business. Where being exploited in the overselling of parking passes, overpriced books, ect. Maybe we should boycott going to college and let the greedy bastards who take financial advantage of people who want to something with there lives suffer.

[rosa2daygo]

Furthermore, why did the school shut down the dorms? It is bc they can't admit new freshman whose parents pay the $1000/mo for rent? why doesn't sdsu significantly decrease the amount of rent to $500-$700 to generate some type of residual income for the school? Doing so would bring more students closer to campus which will decrease the amount of cars on campus, enhance student life by making it less of a commuter school and it would bring more money into the school. some $ is better than no $.

[rosa2daygo]

I like how he tells us our school dictator, President Weber, has made financial adjustments with the "students best interest at heart" when Weber forced an $80 fee on us to save our football team when he should have saved SDSU jobs. Readers, research this by asking questions. When we learn what bullshit this cookie-cutter, preppy puppet is feeding us, we can petition for financial responsibility from our "student" gov't. Don't listen to the Man and don't trust the System.

[AlterSpades]

SDSU should hire a kick-ass GRANTS manager/team & get all the available grants in the world. The grants will pay a lot of the school expenses & keep fees low.

[rosa2daygo]

actually we do have grants and they fund graduate reasearch programs. that is why were the #1 small research university in the nation. :)

[AlterSpades]

SDSU should hire a kick-ass President who can get money from corporations to fund many school programs. The Prez shld wheel & deal.

[shizyninjarocks]

its good to see vanila ice finally considered higher education

[antiflagsd]

Time to transfer to UCSD...

[caramelkidd]

Doesn't it feel great to win an election that you cheated at?

[seansurfgood]

who the f*** voted for this guy!

[withyourwings]

To the haters - change doesn't come from nothing. Believe in change and stand a chance. Thanks Tyler

[hopeulikeurchange]

Doing something can have a zero effect or even hurt your cause if what you do is unintelligible. Chances are this reality applies diproportionatley to you.

[NAVYRSRVST]

Freaking dufus!

[BobMarley211]

i think i voted for the other guy, sorry browskii

but i like how you are taking control of things

you are 100% correct, these increases and budget cuts suck badly

i might stop by ur rallying and give support

best of luck

[hopeulikeurchange]

Sounds like you're just blowing your own horn, politicking. SDSU is one of many schools to be affected. And where exactly do you propose we get this additional funding from? It's not that simple. Half the students at this school only care about getting wasted and live by the credo, "Cs get degrees," so what's all the fuss about now? Not to mention, until recently SDSU has been accepting more students than Federal Aid could cover, so they are partly responsible for this situation. Get real.

[astrohbeck]

I am not completely disagreeing with what you've said, but I would just like to point out that there are tons of students who invest a lot of time and hard work to their classes during their time at SDSU. The fact that we have some students who enjoy partying is irrelevant to the issue, there are students of that nature on almost every college campus across the country. I'm just saying, that part of your statement fails to acknowledge the students at SDSU who deserve a good quality education.

[hopeulikeurchange]

You're right. There are plenty of students who care and try, and hopefully they are the ones who show up to these rallies and come up with some feasible solutions. But standing around , yelling, and patting ourselves on the back accomplishes nothing. So, yes, Tyler, doing something can have a zero affect or even hurt your cause if what you do is unintelligible. Hopefully that's not what happens on Monday, because it just furthers the stereotype of pointless student pep rallies.

[RegisteringIsTorture]

What exactly is this rally going to accomplish? When the budget cuts were made it was not an easy decision but is was made. A bunch of students and teachers protesting on campus is not going to change anything. First of all it is not disrupting or putting any pressure on any one who can change the cuts. And second of all you are going to protest in front of Hepner Hall? You are basically protesting to other students who cannot change what has been done. Take the protest where it belongs.

[rp1322]

You do make a point, and rallies can be kinda awkward for people who wanna do more than just collectively blow steam.

I would personally like to see SDSU be more selective in its enrollment as quality students are just as important as quality teachers. The relationship is not one-sided.

[688282]

Good presentation skills & will be there. Thanks for the informative video. :-D

[Spock2]

But what if I have class during the rally?

[derekrast]

well tempered and executed Tyler

[sdnotesman]

What a nicely presented video. Thank you. I am a part-time faculty member. Good empowering video...