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  • People say we are a democracy but never in any document in the past said that the US was ever was one.

  • "The best way to avoid becoming disillusioned is to not have illusions in the first place." - Norman Solomon

  • Hey Max...Take away the passports of all those who have offshore bank accounts.....they can have them back when they pay all dues in full.....no wars no misery just a small handfull of squillionaires a few dollars poorer......everyone happy...!!!!!

  • End the private federal reserve

    It is dangerous being anti fed. A few examples;  JFK (executive order 11110 - he made silver backed US government notes for crying out loud and these were pulled after his death including silver from coin - HELLO), brother ted (plane crash, survived) 64, brother Robert 68, son John Jr 99 and also Paul Wellstone, Larry MacDonald and Louis T McFadden.

    And where is Mark Pittman, bloomberg journalist who sued the fed in 2009 to give you some details you have?

  • OMG has anybody read these demands? They are so utopia-centric it would make Lenin & Mao ROFL.

    They say stuff like all the debt in the world should be "forgiven" and every human being should be given free money for not working. LOLz liberals its so adorable how you guys think

  • @fargonbastedge Dept forgiveness for all??? Yep, and these are the same people that think the Tea Party is crazy for bitching about being taxed too much.

  • @yinzjagoffs Liberals are not ingenet enough to understand how an economy works. They view the economy as one big ball of money.

  • People need to wake up and finally see that the monetary system never worked and never will. It's time for a resource based economy and revolution!

  • Ya, the crash of billy clubs on the skulls of innocent kids.

  • Step 1: Stop investing in Wall Street.

    Step 2: Stop government handouts to Wall Street by voting for Ron Paul.

    problem fixed

  • In a monetary system, democracy is an illusion perpetuated to give the populace a feeling of participation in a so-called democratic process.

    /watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

  • Music of the way /watch?v=EI8ns_aBtzM

  • No it won't. If you can't see that we are each individually responsible for the situation at hand killing them, jailing them and suing them won't change a thing. There is nothing stopping you right now from being a part of the change that is required. Grow as much of your own food as possible, produce as much of your own energy needs as possible, connect with your neighbours and friends, form community, adjust your values so that you don't require large amounts of finances to get through the day

  • F**K the Plutocracy! BRING IT ALL DOWN!

  • @MrJeggus "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    Thomas Jefferson

  • still buy silver ?

  • Great Story , As seen on NEWSBAD

  • 10% of the population...owns 90% of the stocks. Why? For the same reason that Rothschild spread the word...that Napoleon had won at Waterloo when in fact he had lost...which caused people to dump their stocks... and Rothschild bought up the dumped stocks for peanuts. Companies...rule the world. Stockholders...rule the companies. You don't have to run a company...to rule it. Just buy up all of their stocks. Grow up people. History KEEPS repeating itself...for a reason.
  • A: BANKSTERS LIED about not knowing/seeing 2008 coming.

    B: Could this whole financial mess at the beginning of PEAK OIL be PLANNED by the BANKSTERS?

    C:BETTER to have PEOPLE THINK it's the ECONOMY causing less oil usage rather than the histeria of running out of oil. "People just can't AFFORD IT!"

    D:PEAK OIL helps Global Warming situation.

    E:Rather than do things "ETHICALLY" the Corpotacracy/Banksters have raped BILLIONS of people and will KILL MILLIONS which all helps with peak oil and food etc

  • RT what happened to Max Keiser 188 ,I watched on another persons channel when you should have it .Is it because he mentioned building 7 being demolitioned ? If so does that mean you are falling in order with mainstream media? Has the US knocked on your door ?

  • Another recession? I didn't know the first one was over

  • Three words : THE VENUS PROJECT. Please, do your research... it may be the only hope we have. Time to build new cities, embracing the best of technology..

  • it will all collapse. predicted years ago

  • BRICS = STAY THE F### OUT OF US BANKING. Save yourselves. Cannot be saved.

  • Smile on Max' face after Robin Hood and crashes is priceless, hahaha, neighbours must have heard me laugh :-D

  • A global financial monster is now out of the control even of its creators, the international bankers. This larcenic leviathan is on the loose and consuming nations. After feeding off the little people its gluttonous eyes will be looking for something more substantial, a McDonalds steak? No, a Rothschild one, with a Rockefeller sauce, swilled down with a nice IMF wine, and a cheeseboard of banks as it keels over into an ignominious pool of its own defecation. Real Justice has an aroma about it.

  • "Money/market" is ROOT of problems, how do we:

    1. stop corruption caused by profit motive?

    2. ensure everyone has minimum necessities?

    ANSWER

    1. FREELY Share ALL resources & knowledge worldwide, NO more money/property

    2. Use LATEST technology to create an ABUNDANCE of all our needs, NO more waste/theft

    3. Automate/localize ALL production and distribution, NO more central control/wage slavery

    v=4Z9WVZddH9w

  • well put

  • of corse..... the banck is terrorist number 1

  • Max should inform the different countries that they can print their own money and not borrow from any bank.

  • Respect to Max Keiser, Stacy and RT !

  • Good job Max

  • Slavery in a fema camp or if M.ill, it will be execution,or if 55 or over,same..children,rounded up,not sure..satanists sacrifice them

  • Its Mad...ening...210-35 cilp

  • obama gonna give us a solar company

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  • occupywallstreet has nothing to do with anything, it's a tiny movement. The markets crash because they are paper.

  • Excellent!

    

  • 'Merika is f@cked now. Game over. Zombieville dead ahead. Big 'Merikan cities are gonna become a nightmare as poor and unemployed people start to take the law into their own hands. Time to get the f@ck out of 'Merika. The Zionist bankers have done their job all too well. Depression dead ahead!

  • These banks haven't changed their ways. Sure they got bailed out but did the media or the politicians raise the question how this happened and what can be done to stop it? No and the result will be that this thing will happen again and again and again because you have a system where the nation relies on the banks and they have the power to crash the market and makes billions.

    And next time they'll get bailed again because they are "TOO BIG TO FAIL"? GO FU*K YOURSELF!!!

  • its sad when Russia Times is more honest than US congress lol... im speechless.

  • If it wasn't so incredibly tragic that so much human potential,genius,and lives are lost in this big stupid money game, I'd find this all rather hysterical.However, it's a f---ing travesty.I am ashamed to call myself a human being when I see the way we treat eachother. And to think we can "reset" the button and solve all the problems is a joke. Isn't insanity doing the some thing over and over and expecting different results?When are we going to get it? Or are we just too small minded?

  • @AllithiaReid There is no we. There's you, and me, and others. You have no claim to any of my thoughts, moral judgements, or results of my productive efforts.

  • @Huboons If you think there is no "we", as in, we are all on this planet together and what a few do affects the whole, then that is true for you. As to staking "claim" on your thoughts, feelings, and efforts, I have no desire to do so. All I am suggesting is that the failure of a few is the failure of us all, because we do not exist in isolation from eachother.

  • @AllithiaReid "I have no desire to do so" Awesome, so you're an anarcho-capitalist like them then.

  • @Huboons I don't know what an "anarcho-capitalist" is or who "them" is.Labels don't interest me.People's hearts and minds do. Also,I am interested in conversations with people who,even if we have different understandings, are genuinely interested in communication for the sake of learning and growing.Not just debate for the sake of debate.I find that kind of boring.So if you have something of yourself to share,please feel free. Otherwise,why don't we just let this go...

  • @AllithiaReid I meant like "I" am, it was a typo. You can look the term up on Wikipedia, but where this discussion is going to end up is me proving you do indeed have a desire to make claims on the productive efforts of others. You are a collectivist (though you probably don't understand what that is).

  • omfg #ocupywallstreat is in their 6th day, and i know about this from this video title. None of media in spain covered this :D. Checked google news about this and got blank page ;)

  • if there's a fox in the hen-house, you don't build a fence; you kill the fox first.

  • Italy should be at the gates of the Vatican demanding they balance the checkbook from a charitable perspective, not via a loan. Such [italy in need] will bring in to stark view the oft mentioned phenom of the people starving outside the gates of their filthy rich church.

  • Devotion to truth enables revolution :)

  • Money is evil all it does is create greedy power hungry maniacs, I agree that we need a resource based economy, and people should be able to get anything they want just as long as they do something good for society, like get an education and a career. Its that simple we dont need money

  • We need a resource based economy

  • @JulieStreet91 Yep :)

  • @JulieStreet91 So you are suggesting we take a jug of crude oil to the bank, so we can exchange that for iron ore, so we can take that to the store to trade it for bread and cheese? The worlds resources go down, population continues to rise... a "resource based economy" isn't all that good of an idea is it?

  • @Polydynamix Haha:) I'm not talking about oil, we've reached peak oil and we're destroying the planet. We have the technology, we have the knowledge and we have the resources to create a whole new world. There's no need for banks, no need for a monetary system, no need for politics. In fact the inherent mechanisms of the monetary system is whats killing us. That said, yes, the current system needs to collapse before we'll see deep change. And it will. Its already happening.

  • @JulieStreet91 It's unstable, but it's not collapsing, and when it does finally collapse it very well might not fall in the direction you are hoping. I fear that after the collapse the desperate will turn to the one that can "save them" and that person most likely won't be a saint or anything.

  • @Polydynamix It is collapsing. It cannot sustain itself. But you're right, the powers that rules this world will probably pull many big rabbits out of the hat to spread fear. And scared people can be manipulated like sheep. Who knows, maybe they will try to trick us into a one world government along with a one world currency.

  • @JulieStreet91 the idea of that venus project or whatever, and "resource based economy" is just as corruptible as the current system. As long as greed and envy exist in our brain chemistry we will always be different versions of the same thing.

  • @Polydynamix Agreed, thats what the evolution of consciousness is for.

  • @JulieStreet91 and we are a few centuries away from anything like that.

  • @Polydynamix You'll be very surprised. Are you in the military?

  • @JulieStreet91 nope, my brain is too important to put in the line of fire

  • keiser thinks jaime dimon is a WASP when on record he is Greek.

    since silver collapsed today as well, his baby, i think people who listen to

    his flawed logic are being led astray.

  • @gonobdotcom Oh stop with the idiotic dreamscape of day trading. Look at the bigger picture. Duh!

  • @Kinkspace i see the bait and switch or looking for a fall guy dis-info this is the way of the ashka-nazi...do evil and sacrafice your proxy...you have been schooled FOOL!

  • @gonobdotcom Misunderstanding truth creates opposition, both internally & externally. You will learn this one way or another depending on your level of enslavement to your ego :)

  • its keiser the klown!

  • Party's over, you dont have to go home, you just can't stay where you are and continue to have a decent job, pension, healthcare, social security(you paid for), food, clean water. You can have endless fake reasoned wars, endless inside jobs, endless state sponsored terror, endless bailouts, corporate fascism. Have a nice day.

  • a balance shit recesion, money does not exsist, so dont give it creedence ffs

  • What will crash first: USA or UARS?

  • M A X A M I L L I O N...BUY SILVER CRASH JP MORGAN

  • Max , thanks for breaking it down for Idiots like me .... to understand . Economic Warrior .

  • Economic reset button? China is at economic war with USA. For that to happen WW3 would be almost unavoidable.

  • Damn it! Why can't these dumbass EU shit heads just let the system collapese and let the market recover on its own!? They are just making the situation even worse with every single bailout!

  • Max nailed it, the economic reset button needs to be pushed!!

  • Be safe - for ever 5 potatoes you plant - plant a chicken

  • @OghamTheBold My dog did that once, I saw a leg sticking up in the newly dug vegetable patch, it was quite surreal :)

  • Bit like the Potato famine.When you rely on one crop for survival and it fails, your in deep doo doo

  • Max Keiser is one funny looking motherfucker, but damn is he good.

  • Stupidly I thought - the world - was too big to fail

  • If the mass majority is still under the mentality that you can simply find the "bankers" and the "elite", hang them, sue them, jail them and actually expect a significant ever-lasting change then humanity is still not ready to evolve.

    We have to learn to stop externalizing problems and own our own shit. Pretty much all of us go against nature, pretty much all of us go against each other, and all of us seem to have infinite wants on a finite planet...

    Time to grow up and let your ego die.

  • @enticed2zeitgeist Agreed :)

  • @enticed2zeitgeist Thank you. I actually think you might be from the same planet as me. Wondering...Do you encounter the same resistance to the idea of an RBE as I do? It amazes me how indoctrinated people are into believing that they "need" money. What we all really need is food, shelter, clean air, water, value, dignity. Money is actually a barrier to these things, not to mention what the pursuit of it is doing to the planet. As you say,ego. Amazing how limiting it is. May be the death of us.

  • @AllithiaReid Lots of resistance. But it's to be expected, and we must practice patience. The same way a parent must practice patience with their children. For what is a child to a parent? Just less educated. It takes time. And we'll never get there with out love and kindness.

    Obviously it's challenging though, this is where it helps to have some kind of spirituality that at the end of the day regardless of what was a success and what wasn't you can say "Well at least I tried" and feel good.

  • @enticed2zeitgeist It's interesting that you equate the education to that of a parent to a child. How often did I follow advice growing up? Truth is, it's in human nature to learn through experience, often through suffering. I've had my share. I guess that this is where we are at. I have huge amounts of compassion and love for people. It's just hard to accept that things have to be this way when you know how amazing they could be. And you're right. Spiritual alignment is the anchor. Peace!

  • @AllithiaReid Lol same here friend! How many times must we run and fall flat on our faces before we learn that nature is a dictatorship? That's the difference between learning and realization I suppose. Perhaps humanity as a whole is almost at the age where it has learned that lesson as well.

    Be well friend :) and good luck. Keep close to your heart and mind that there others out there fighting the fight with you!

  • @AllithiaReid Lol same here friend! How many times must we run and fall flat on our faces before we learn that nature is a dictatorship? That's the difference between learning and realization I suppose. Perhaps humanity as a whole is almost at the age where it has learned that lesson as well.

    Be well friend :) and good luck. Keep close to your heart and mind that there others out there fighting the fight with you! 

  • @enticed2zeitgeist the vast majority of us do not go against nature. The parasitical financial speculators go against nature. And we may live on a finite planet but there is infinite potential for the human species and we should already be on more than one planet. During the Apollo missions they were planing for manned Mars missions in the early 80s. We are way behind. There are no limited resources for mankind. Our resource base is as big as our creativity and technological progress can make it

  • @MTL911Truth Perhaps the people that surround you are different than the people who surround me. But my comment remains true for my own area and for the people who come into contact with me from the web and such. I totally agree that we have infinite potential, but the planets resources really are finite, there is only so much iron ore for example, what we have here is all we'll ever have of it until an asteroid delivers more or we learn how to mine space.

  • Fuck he sounds like Andy Rooney!!

  • max looks happy. he may have shorted silver.

  • Don't forget the other economic terrorists... Wal*Mart is one of the biggest offenders!

  • @spreadhead008

    So is China with the slave-labor and the artificially devalued currency.

    It would serve Wal-Mart right if China nationalized the building and machines. I wish China would do that! It would wake up those who always install factories where the wages and environmental regulations are detrimental to the people in China (and other places that the pollution migrates into..air, oceans)

  • @BoudiccaBlanc

    Valid point... but honestly, Wally world as a corporation made 220 Billion in profit last year as per their annual report. Yet the "can't afford" to employ associates full time, pay them a fair wage, give them set schedule, or even a decent health care plan. A company like that could be a shining beacon for the future of responsible business practices instead of the poster child for the corporate fat cats. BOYCOTT WAL*MART!

  • They really seem to be getting off on reporting this LOL!

  • Well if Corporations are citizens then we can execute them like a citizen right?

  • @LordAvoc

    The problem, in this day and age regarding corporations; is that the earnings are often used to pay pensions Either with the profits from dividends from stocks sold on the exchanges or by the dividends of the corporation's shares in it's pension plans

    BP claimed; after the Gulf oil spill; that a larger settlement would damage the people who depend on BP stock for their retirement Of course, those aren't all "little old ladies" but some might be state or municipal pension funds

  • Imagine no banksI wonder if you can

    No need for greed or hunger

    A brotherhood of man

    Imagine all the people

    Sharing all the world

    You may say that I'm a dreamer

    But I'm not the only one

    I hope someday you'll join us

    And the world will live as one

  • hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

    it will crash HARD!!!!

  • The so called BRIC countries - Brazil, Russia, India and China, would do better to let America and Europe collapse, take the losses and end up as the new big 4 economic superpowers.

    Why pitch in to save Israel's allies who created this mess?

  • @woodbinedrinker Oh I think they worked this out already :)

  • There are no more "real" markets. There's just a casino controlled by the banksters who control the US Federal Government.

  • Max that occupation is kind of a joke a lot of them gave up already

  • People who are hating the bankers, the elite, are clueless. Let them throw their tantrums and see where it gets them.

  • @slobomotion reptilian

  • @capucchan8 I have been called that here, also cointelpro. sigh

  • @slobomotion haha who believes in those things? haha

  • @capucchan8 I guess some do! I am this housewife, it is so weird to be called some paid agent or something. I almost wish.

  • Global recession my eye, Problem, Reaction, Solution. its a global transition into another economic monetary system that suits the new globalised economic agenda for a one world currency and a world government ruled under Roman law or Fleet law by the masonic orders out of the Vatican. in essence its the rise of the Roman empire, The Eagle system, no sovereignty, no rights. no freedom, no speech, just servitude and a dictatorship.

  • you people have absolutely no idea what is going on... none of you. the truth of the matter is that these people are all part of the same globalist organization that was started over 200 years ago. they control the media and the very democracy that you hold so dear. elections are fixed and the elite put the best puppet in the seat so that they can carry on their agenda.

  • they keep us sedated and ignorant with TV, drugs, sex, violence, money and the promise that we will one day too be one of the Elite. they make promises they'll never keep so that we stay obedient, saying that they'll fix the debt and this that and the other thing but the debt is non-existent. this debt they speak of is the debt they have built up in order to make us "debt slaves" while we pile money into the pockets of the rich and powerful. and this is just scratching the surface...

  • @HempsterMcGutter they keep us sedated and ignorant with TV, drugs, sex, violence, money and the promise that we will one day too be one of the Elite. they make promises they'll never keep so that we stay obedient, saying that they'll fix the debt and this that and the other thing but the debt is non-existent. this debt they speak of is the debt they have built up in order to make us "debt slaves" while we pile money into the pockets of the rich and powerful.

  • @HempsterMcGutter look at the facts, they are there waiting for you to find them. don't buy into the lies. go and check out Esoteric Agenda and Kymatica as well as Ring of Power... these movies changed my life....FEED YOUR HEAD!!!! the truth will set you free... VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!

  • Death to the dirty theiving bastard bankers

  • WW3 is coming .Wallstreet is about to collapse completely ..A comet will hit the earth ( warning of the Virgin Mary in garabandal -Spain ) before WW3 . This is the final chapter of this corrupt world . This is called " APOCALYPSE"

  • @liderlider Oh my God, would you stop commenting this bullshit? in every single video you post the same shit over and over and over...

  • @EtaYorius There is no bullshit at all .This is my beliefs , simple like that . Please respect other people .A comet will hit the earth before WW3 .This in all the prophecies . This is not a joke ..This called apocalypse . The final chapter

  • Oh, but London just arrested Kwaku Adoboli, the "rogue trader" from USB. Does that count?

  • @cpvon What kind of noise does a scapegoat make, "bleet bleet" or "bheer bheer"? :)

    The gods of humanity are not impressed with such a meager offering, they ask only for the rule of law to be.

  • Why haven't more of these bastards been prosecuted criminally. There was known fraud going on. Why haven't more heads rolled? There shouldn't be any such thing as "Too big to fail" it should be "Too big to exist" What happened to anti-trust laws?

  • @Hillhermit He really does, doesn't he? He had some valid points but I still just wanted to kick him in the nuts most of the time he was talking.

  • ...."it's that group on Wall Street...demands aren't met"... Exactly!

  • @407buddy --- the real economy has been in a depression but not wallstreet and commodities - they have been in a massive boom since Obama took power and made all the bailout. 

  • Bernanke said f it and went short. got tired of propping the market for his cronies and decided to make some money shorting. Rumor is he and Obama have a hotel next to each other under the Denver airport in case the shit hits the fan.

  • Serious, if RT is here to be a serious TV network, they should have REAL news and experts, not a comedian.

  • @mercedescl 0---- Max is awesome. I'll take him over fox or msnbc anyday.

  • @TheChineseEmpire Max knows nothing about real economy. The things in his head and reality have significant differences.

  • Let's call CNN, FOX, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CBS and the Local News stations to demand coverage for this event. There is massive presence of police, violent arrests of peaceful protesters, and they are still completely ignoring it?

    Still any doubt about who the corporate media, government and police work for?

    I am calling...

  • We need to change the social structure we live in now! /watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

  • #occupywallstreet 

  • Except don't the capos make billions in these country by country collapses they can CAUSE anytime they like?

  • Global Economy = Global E-con, O my!

  • GIABO ! GIABO ! GIABO !

  • Time for a revolution, folks.

  • Let's see if these 'love & light/it's all a vibrational illusion' houswives and potheads keep it up, when working a 12 hour shift in Mcdonald's or on a building site.

  • @LordLolinghamThe3rd You ought to goggle how much the marijuana industry in california alone is worth, take that figure and put it in your pipe and smoke it. Then come into the light brother. It's a luxury to be this unrealistic.

  • @halfzombiehalfrobot I know this you patronising tit. That wasn't the point I was making.

  • @LordLolinghamThe3rd Whoa dude, you're totally harshing my mellow bro. What was your point?

  • @LordLolinghamThe3rd --- how bout all the drunks, meth heads, and coke sniffers? Pot smokers lol that's so petty.  So what's your fancy Meth? Boozer?

  • @LordLolinghamThe3rd By the way, I work on building sights. I like it. What do you build? 

  • And boom goes the dynamite.

  • Some days i wish Armageddon would happen so we could all start over...but then again i some days wish i was Dr. Manhattan so i could walk on the surface of the sun, then brag about it later. FACEBOOK STATUS: Walked on surface of sun...again

  • Double-dip recession = D E P R E S S I O N

  • @stiffnessmatrix  LOL Good one!

  • October is coming...

  • One foot in the grave.

  • yous keep sucking up Zionist bankers ass and will see how far yous will go.

    Invest/buy gold and store/keep? silvers. Store up foods and defend your right and constitution.

    Peoples of the world. Join the resistance against this global Ponzi Scheme that had brought nothing but debts and hypocrisy.

  • The Norwegian Stock Exhcange has been closed for more then 2 hours now and still closed at this very moment for trading. "technical issues" !

  • @Dualspec

    The Norwegian government probably closed it to protect Norway's stocks. The Norwegians are remarkably good at protecting themselves against the international banking cartels. Socialism ftw?

  • @Dualspec Lol, maybe they are having a rare moment of sanity & going to follow in the steps of Iceland & shutting the whole thing down & focusing on the real economy & living breathing human beings :)

    One can but hope, such moments of reality become infectious ;)

  • @Dualspec how's iceland doing? They are our best example of how to proceed IMHO

  • another recession? We never got out of the first one!

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  • It's called a depression. 

  • Catchy headline! :)

    Max is right about the "Banksters" They need to be removed from their posts, jailed, prosecuted and sued by the governments and the people.

  • @BoudiccaBlanc And replaced by whom? Money is the root of all evil. It corrupts. It corrupts banks and it corrupts governments. Money substitutes for slave labor... and guess who are the slaves? We need to abandon the monetary system and barter and trade real skills and real tangibles. That's the only way to send a clear message to the banksters. We're not playing your game anymore. The value of fiat isn't worth the paper it's not printed on. We don't believen in it anymore!

  • @staceyski

    "Love of money" (i.e. "GREED" (one of the "7 Deadly Sins") is the root of all evil.

    Money is just a means of exchange.  You can barter chickens and bags of grain (etc.) for another commodity or you can use money. Money itself has no value.

    "The Secret of Oz" (2010; 2hrs)

    (Fractional reserve lending, money supply & private banks; emphasis on USA)

    /watch?v=U71-KsDArFM

    "The Money Masters" (1996; 4 hrs)

    (The world financial system)

    /watch?v=JXt1cayx0hs

  • @BoudiccaBlanc And executed for high treason as an example for anyone stupid enough to try something similar!

  • @BoudiccaBlanc the government should also be thrown in prison

  • @Shonenut213

    Yes, regarding the financial crash: Tim Geithner, Ben Bernake, Alan Greenspan and Hank Paulson. As well as the members of Congress. Presidents? certainly the presidents from the S&L crises (GHWB) onward should be held accountable.

    (Regarding OKC, 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq; Clinton, Reno, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Wolfowitz, etc. and Obama for Libya.)