I write, and I went to some friends of mine months ago talking about how I wanted to do an album focusing on anti-civilization type stuff. no bullshit! DAMN!
if u need any murderous death rap lines or verse just ask heres a lil sample
I have no Relgious Beleif my flow is untameable and my niggas kain it aint game same shit just goes n runs off fast knock off iam the force pushing the pendlum swing think past the fact i already killed u a beast straight out the jungle of raw way looking like bigfoot i stood and conquored every nigga i battle the shadows i cast upon niggas aint nothin i cant do again fame is glory
well that would be nice, except for the real fact is that it's excatly opposite of how you described it.
every single convience abd luxury that we add, this place gets worse. the larger this civilization becomes, the bigger the gap becomes for the ones in complete poverty!
i don't think you could ever look back in time in any civilization except our own where a seventh of our total population is in complete poverty.
you see it doesn't get better with time, how could it? it gets worse!
hey zack, i figured it out. soaa is talking to himself (definitely not us)... that's why his replies seem to have no contextual reflection of or to corresponding comments. and i thought to myself,
" if i'm gonna write anything else i'll at least direct to a sane person who would, could and can read and reply"
A civilisation clashing with a tribal civilisation of organised tribal members. This is seen in nature, know as the pecking order.
Two or more people = civilisation...
The kingdom of Zack, with lord cchilder and president bbleaver and the underlings. Civilisation; and don't give me that bull. You know I am right. Don't forget youTube in the equation coz we gotta have that! Well Zack does anyway. lol
So much email from youTube services. So much love, I sort a feel alone. Not like the video clip saying we are not alone.
90 per cent of the questions have already been answered. Has the message been received? I guess not. People whom cannot conceive the truth before there eyes, simply ... Anyone whom uses violence towards his brother is a murderer and will fail in his cause.
you can do it, as can all of us, we don't need preservatives or plastic, or energy or oil, or machines or fucking any of that. we don't need refrigerators, or cell phones or microwaves, or toilet paper, fuck it all.
If you can look at something and say "i don't HAVE to have this to survive" then that thing, whatever it is, MUST go in the trash, and never to be unearthed again. that's what must be done.
Fuck, we even gotta trash the trash. it's all gotta goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
so lets just find all the people on the earth that are doing something good, or making an impact, or doing anything really, and just tell them all to stop the thing that they are doing for three months. then after they do that, then what gets proven!?!?!?! WTF is wrong with this Ark dude?
doing that would be absurd. I don't know which is more nuts, civilization or YOU backing civilization up and making excuses for it.
Back to the video clip, I object to the overlay of a cross being used in the clip. You advocate rebellion against the teachings of that faith. Why do you use religious iconography in your video clip? Sounds like alot of idolatry to me.
.... i didn't edit this video, charlie did. also, i didn't think the "cross" over my face had anything to do with religion. it's just a shape.
seriously, though, can you stop just hating on this video please? like, you haven't really said anything worthwhile. you've just looked for different things to hate on.
why don't you, like, i don't know, make your OWN goddamn video? show me how it's done? or take your OWN break from youtube? show me how it's done?
Can you not take constructive criticism my friend, must we all love your works of man. It is vanity under the sun to expect all to love works that project violence on humanity. Where is the love in this? I am not anti-humanity, but you want to hurt our fellow man, this is the message you give in this clip.
You are trying to project your hatred of humanity onto me and I refuse to accept it. I do not consent.
I don't hate your video my friend, hatred is the work of unrighteousness and pride. I stand behind my values and when I say something I try my best to do what I say, unlike some.
I still love you my friend, and forgive you for your unrighteousness toward me.
you too are forgiven for all your past judgments and insulting comments. for i know that you are lost in wilderness of your own mind. may you go in peace and not return to stormy shores.
bbleaver that is your incorrect interpretation ... was it I that says do away with civilisation and yet a simple test of this faith rejected by Zack whom we can only make the conclusion that he is a false prophet that speaks of murder to his fellow civilised humanity. Three months was all I requested.
How soon the vipers bite when exposed!
Satan s (unrighesness) plan is the destruction of this world.
soaa wrote -"he...speaks of murder to his fellow civilised humanity." not sure how you come to that conclusion? where is that stated?
first, civilization does not = humanity. civ is one culture out of 6000. how is making room and acceptance of other ways of life including All other species by challenging the root of this destruction (our current way of life and consumption) lead you to think we're out to kill everyone? it's change were after not destruction.
when i think of "civilized" behaviour i see columbus landing in the carribean meeting the indigenous peoples there and commenting in his diary how docile, kinda, and without guile they were and then following up with, i'd only need a 1000 men to subdue them all! you count on me never using any facet of civilized behaviour to address let alone using such black and white thinking to treat others -
his point is to try with all possible methods to keep civilization going and to display some type of reason why civilization is so amazing
it is ingrained in these people to back this madness up, and the more they talk the less sense they make. until one day they realize the nonsense themselves and they too will put a fist in the air!
people must stop trying to reach Utopia. That is our downfall.
ending civilzation is not about being pure, not having blood on our hands. its about doing whatever it takes to stop the harm. z has reahed lots of people through vdeos, so i say keep at it.
z, remember the lady who told us to put down the signs and got all angry with us? why did we keep on addressing her? the only thing we should say to her is "you and your mental kin are completely irrelevant, not stupid, not assholes, just irrelevant. please get out of the way, because i have work to do"
Let us rejoice for we are in the kingdom of cchilder. Shall I order the zyklon B now?
Thank goodness we still have YouTube and mobile phones and hypocrisy! Said King Cchilder.
Guess he's goin 2 report me now cus he can't stand the truth that he's a liar to the cause he claims to represent. Let us see if free speech is muzzled. LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR.
What is your goal Zack, to silence all whom are disappointed by your false teachings? Are you so perfect that your lack of wisdom is replaced by rebellion. You are a liar in the fact that you say you can do without Youtube, but do not. How can we believe your messages? Practice what you preach false prophet!
Bows down and cries at bbleavers feet. Please messiah of death: tell me where I am going wrong. Are we not taught to respect our Elders in your culture of perfection? Your a bullshit artist (colloquial term of Australia) you exclude me from your world. Where is my love? LIAR I am alone!
where are you going wrong? 1. you ask questions, then use the answer as ammo for attack 2. you make assumptions about the others and pre-conclude you are somehow right 3. you make claims of wisdom and levy demands of respect without showing one or giving examples of the other. 4. you are judgmental, insulting, critictizing, and evaluative in all your comments - ie not appreciative, responsive, or understanding of anyones position - 5. YOU came to Us. not the other way around.
6. you are projecting and inserting YOUR interpretation of this video onto others as though it were fact. seriously sonaa if one is capable of empathy you'd hear something like this - "I am really concerned about the world and all Her inhabitants (myself included)!! i want to do something about it - because i see the root of the problem! - OUR way of life. we are collectively reducing our chances of living here beyond 100yrs if we don't act now.
this shit is like having a bad trip... what is it that you want to do once you are able to kill off most of humanity by bringing down civilization? I would like to know the plan after your terror plot succeeds. btw I've seen other videos of yours and I've read all the quinn and jensen books and more. What is the aftermath to ya'lls endgame?
you sound frightened and worried about all of humanity being killed if civilization were to go away? it's seems there is a 'belief' that just civilized people = humanity. i'd like to note that there are 6000 other cultures still in existence today and 98% of them aren't reliant on civilization being around and in fact are going extinct because of it. civilized culture makes up less than a percent of all known cultures. hope that helps set your mind at ease. it's humanity were saving-not civ.
what is i want to do... once civilization ends? be free.
terror plot...? it's not a terror plot. read what bbbleaver says above me.
the aftermath would be the same as the millions of years of human existence before civilization, ideally. something about tribes and self-sufficiency and walking in balance and living in the hand of the gods, flowing with the tao.
There will always be civilisation, the only way it will not exit, is if all humanity is killed. If ten are left and able to reproduce you have a civilisation in it's infant form. Proven in history.
Zack cannot live without YouTube, so we must assume then, that my friend is composing a thought system based on non violent methods. What is that old saying, you cannot have your cake and eat it.
..... "proven in history." what the fuck are you talking about? humans lived on earth for ten million years without building civilization. just because i have a dick does not mean i am going to rape somebody.
"zack cannot live without youtube" what the fuck are you talking about? of course i can live without youtube. i don't make a video every day. i am not on youtube every day. i consider the work i do on here to be IMPORTANT. i am not on youtube for fun.
even if the earth was only 6000 years old (not assuming you believe that) the vast majority of people who have lived on earth were NOT civilization builders. just because a single insane culture has swept over the continents and wiped out or reduced the populations of the 1000's and 1000's and 1000's of other cultures does not mean all people were meant to live 'this way' as civilized. that is your myth or lie, whatever.
Zack are you a pacifist as you stated, or rebellious, are you willing to give up all the basics that civilisation offers you.
Now don't tell fibs.
Destroy civilisation you destroy the world along with it. Educate the locusts and reject controlling technologies and wise up to sustainability. Say no thank you Mr IBM, we don't want your cow tags in our bodies. (RFID)
i am willing to give up civilization to save the world. are you?
"destroy civilization you destroy the world along with it." huh? how do you figure? civilization is the thing that's KILLING the world, not keeping it alive.
i don't just say "abandon civilization individually," i say, "help bring down civilization," which i am doing. giving up toys is a part of that - i've already given up a bunch of stuff. in the meantime i need money and delivering packages using a cell phone is better than working for IHOP. or don't you agree? what do you think i should do? what do you do?
oh, well, i guess you don't do anything since you say all you need is love and god to save the world. right?
Zack said, disrespectfully to an elder " I am willing to give up civilization to save the world. are you?"
Prove it ... No youTube or reverberation until march 1 next year, no new clips posted by yourself or via friends from today. No comments on your or any other members. Let us see if you are genuine in what you say. Let us see if you can live without YouTube Reverberation. Or are you an hypocrite child.
.... disrespectfully? what was disrespectful about what i said?
why are you so angry, calling me a "hypocrite child?"
i could abstain from youtube for a year. what would be the point? it's an important year in an important time, and i make important videos. what would be gained by me abstaining from youtube? i already abstain from driving, buying clothes, smoking cigarettes, playing video games, watching television, using all but the smallest amounts of electricity.
Zack lied and said disrespectfully to an elder " oh, well, i guess you don't do anything since you say all you need is love and god to save the world. right?"
II never said that . where did I say that?
You know nothing of my life child and what I have suffered in life for the cause you claim to represent.
Put your money where you mouth is (figuratively) and do without your internet until march the 1st next year.
Concede you cannot totally do without civilisation or see you in March.
the logic you're using is really faulty. i can't follow it. if you don't want to see my videos, don't watch them. you can pretend i stopped making them.
respect your juniors. they're closer to god than you are.
as for respecting our elders, i would first ask for our elders to respect us. not only did you completely FUCK UP our world but now your telling us to not raise our voices about it. cant you see how self-serving your point of view is? your techniques got us into this mess. dont we have a right to try something new without you being a total dick to us about it?
please, if you dont want to help, then fine. but YOU MUST GET OUT OF THE WAY.
very clear, that when a demand of respect comes at us without the example of respect being given by the demandee it falls flat... and i can only imagine an elder is someone who can 'hear' the anger or concern and answer or address what's being expressed without first crying like a child pretending to be daddy or mommy, "don't speak to me that way!" we were raised by slaves who dream of being masters and we can't depend on their examples to be of any value' until they can hear'
i am tired of people who got us knee deep into this shit show telling us how we are only gonna get out by doing exactly what we did to gt in. ITS NOT YOUR TURN TO RUN THE SHOW ANYMORE. YOU ARE IRRELEVANT. please retire and get out of the way while we try something else.
Your hypotheses is incorrect bbbleaver, Gandhi did win, passive resistance did win and he died a righteous man without blood on his hands. For he knew the mystery of God and it wasn't the 25th of December lie either! ;-) How can you tend sheep in winter in freezing teps.., and the stars would not be in that position in the sky as mentioned in scripture. End of June, scientists say. How can we believe
not a hypothesis. what changed in india? the presence of imperial nations never went away and the quality of life that has also been low since their arrival has only increased... and yes there are many who are being educated to work for substandard pay in industries (not owned by indians) but who wants to work for a company that cares nothing for you or your country longterm? just so you can pay to live?
success would have meant true freedom - the absence of their oppressors. hasn't happened.
every time you make a good point, he stops responding...it's like he's setting you up to make undebatable points...he seems to be an ally afterall. :op
I didn't like it. It seems to lack sincerity and honesty. Technically it would be better with less visual movement in imagery. Keep up the good work Zack and your tolerance is noted! At least it was in NTSC (29fps) this time.
BTW. I have seen most of your work.
Change can only be achieved by non-violence and tolerance to ALL sections of society. God in Heaven demands nothing less.
What of the fall of Communism? Was this not achieved by non-violence? The exit of England from India? The downfall of apartheid in South Africa? All of these events were the works of non-violent change. Did violence cause these changes? No. People power caused them. Simply say; no thank you. A government cannot contain a society of unwilling participants, they have no option but to give in.
south africa, and the rest of the world, is still relatively segregated. it just isn't always based on phenotype anymore.
also, all of those causes had something this cause lacks, which is an informed, motivated population. the population of the civilized world is, for the most part, ignorant and lazy. if we go out into the street and allow ourselves to get beat up and arrested, who cares?
i don't really get your message. i say all options are on the table. you're talking some shit about how violence won't work. okay, you should not be violent.
what does any of this have to do with the song...?
Read my first comment, Zack. No one has ever achieved what YOU aim for by violent methods.
You aim for sustainability and equity. Yet you yourself do not come over as a tolerant person in this clip.
How to start your revolution, pick up the rubbish that another person has thrown down on the pavement, but many say I didn't drop it; so why should I pick it up ... and the world died.
no one has ever achieved what i aim for, because there has never been a global civilization so global civilization has never been voluntarily ended.
with such a huge task, how can you remove options?
... i don't come over as a tolerant person? well, i'm not. i'm intolerant of ignorance and laziness and cruelty and evil. i'm intolerant of civilization and i want you to be, too.
i already pick up trash and don't litter, and the world is still burning.
Zack tell me was not the British empire given away in the end? Did she not see the writing on the wall? Did not Russia give it's empire away? Did Russia not see the writing on the wall? Shall we speak of China? The revolution is in progress, it has been for centuries.
Violence only begets violence. Passive resistance works, has been proven to work and does work.
And I know you pick up after others because your a good boy. I can say this because I'm an elder. :o)
i love this, "violence begets violence." watch me shoot it down:
every empire that's ever existed has used violence to conquer. now, 2009, we're living under a global empire and we say, "violence only begets violence."
well, that's obviously not true. if violence begets violence, then we'd all be violent instead of a bunch of pacifists! we've all had nothing but violence imposed upon us from day one, and we're docile.
violence does not only beget violence. sometimes it begets pacifism.
empires were not 'given away' - they just changed names. the 'few' continue exploit and "control resources" funneling the wealth to the top of the "pyramid". nothing changed fundamentally when the ussr changed it's name... wars have increased, the # poor have increased,.,..more and more of everything we have already seen. ghandi even said, if non-violent resistance doesn't work, we will take up arms! he didn't get that far. and- resistance only creates opposition. there's more than 2 options.
i agree that : no options should be left out, closing the doors to possibility is not smart. nonviolent actions have not worked. and neither has open resistance (not saying to stop doing either). a system 'designed' to protect itself at all costs (even in the face of total annihilation) is one that deserves "special" treatment - cultural assimilation (giving & getting from people what you/they want and need - giving them something "better" than what they have now,.,.,,...)
Now others whom advocate violence to infrastructure? What if it knocked down your cell phone tower for your wireless or even copper/optical cables internet connection?
Can you live without running water, telephones, radio, television, xbox etc.
What we need to do is use what we have wisely. Civilisation is not the enemy, greedy overlords whom have no care for the environment are. When it hits them in the pocket they will move for your cause. Don't buy what you don't really need.
yet if jesus felt that money was so wrong why would he take a tax collector under his wing? I agree with zzz3333, there can not be understanding for all parts of society until there is a united society, until that is acheived all were doing is talking. Change can be acheived through many means including violance, it may not be the best method but it is possible.
yo. he said 'i have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance' - plus that tax collector gave everything away to join him.
if you going to wait for all of society to be united we all going to die. would the slave states have been defeated if they were 'tolerated' and everyone waited for a united society?
blowing up roads, breaking machines, bending bars and burning money ain't violence.
I came here thinking I was going to hear zach de la rocha (RATM)screaming something exactly like this!
9pasadena9 7 months ago
@9pasadena9 tell your friends :D
zzz33333 7 months ago
I write, and I went to some friends of mine months ago talking about how I wanted to do an album focusing on anti-civilization type stuff. no bullshit! DAMN!
MadManApothecary 10 months ago
fucking dope..
Greddyy23 1 year ago
The download link is broken....and can you please post the lyrics somewhere :) Thanks....
YankoBG94 1 year ago
Yo
My name is Zack, A.K.A tripple Z
Also alias Sleepy, but that’s just my ego.
I ain’t pack, fake a.k.a slizzin please barely be breathing, I stand for the people.
I made crack with these may-day writtins G alians needles, can’t pope as deep YO.
I stay van, hit the bag and quitting’ breath air man they scared you and frozen feat code.
readyforchaos 1 year ago 2
keep the views rising =)
Kirilltraceur 2 years ago
this is a great song... peeps need to upload it and spread it around like a virus.
bbbleaver 2 years ago
tight song! great editing
dreamwildly 2 years ago
real
desire4liberation 2 years ago
epic! ~ Raz
mishrathium 2 years ago
extremely inspiring. also i recommend everyone check out The Ascent of Humanity by Charles Eisenstein, its revolutionary and online for free
Thinkforyourself11 2 years ago
are there lyrics for this? i just love your vocals.
TigranTheTiger 2 years ago
if u need any murderous death rap lines or verse just ask heres a lil sample
I have no Relgious Beleif my flow is untameable and my niggas kain it aint game same shit just goes n runs off fast knock off iam the force pushing the pendlum swing think past the fact i already killed u a beast straight out the jungle of raw way looking like bigfoot i stood and conquored every nigga i battle the shadows i cast upon niggas aint nothin i cant do again fame is glory
EncasementOfTime 2 years ago
so much work went into this
creosotegirl 2 years ago
true.
zzz33333 2 years ago
this is a really good track
raulhawkins718 2 years ago
haha, the bear jew was my favourite too
This was such a dope thing to come back to the tube and see.
look at the truth, all shiny and shit. 5*
phuq1deology 2 years ago
Wow This is so fkin dope dude!!! Your too sickk now son
SmokeOut315 2 years ago
wicked video & track
I think civilization is in its infancy and over the decades ceturies it will get cleaner and more peaceful as it evolves?
What will civilization be like 1000 years from now
A pinprick in eternity that is what our lifetimes are.
gavloft 2 years ago
well that would be nice, except for the real fact is that it's excatly opposite of how you described it.
every single convience abd luxury that we add, this place gets worse. the larger this civilization becomes, the bigger the gap becomes for the ones in complete poverty!
i don't think you could ever look back in time in any civilization except our own where a seventh of our total population is in complete poverty.
you see it doesn't get better with time, how could it? it gets worse!
felkajamine 2 years ago
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teawizard 2 years ago
hey zack, i figured it out. soaa is talking to himself (definitely not us)... that's why his replies seem to have no contextual reflection of or to corresponding comments. and i thought to myself,
" if i'm gonna write anything else i'll at least direct to a sane person who would, could and can read and reply"
bbbleaver 2 years ago
i think you are right, man!
just read his screen name, "stood on an ark" sounds like a wack-job to me
felkajamine 2 years ago
Now let us adjourn to the other video clip from Dr Zackyl and mr Lyde. The flip side view. THE MOST IMPORTANT MESSAGE IN THE WORLD.
Btw. My intention is not to stop, discredit or demean Zack , but correct him from a stumbling block stopping what he desires most.
Because I love him. God told me to. He didn't make a law about it, but a Commandment, an edict, a strong suggestion from a sovereign. :-)
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
go away, ya bother me.
zzz33333 2 years ago
The Columbus example reply ....
A civilisation clashing with a tribal civilisation of organised tribal members. This is seen in nature, know as the pecking order.
Two or more people = civilisation...
The kingdom of Zack, with lord cchilder and president bbleaver and the underlings. Civilisation; and don't give me that bull. You know I am right. Don't forget youTube in the equation coz we gotta have that! Well Zack does anyway. lol
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
civilization is a form of human society based around cities.
two or more people is not necessarily a civilization. a civilization requires CITIES.
zzz33333 2 years ago
???
bbbleaver 2 years ago
So much email from youTube services. So much love, I sort a feel alone. Not like the video clip saying we are not alone.
90 per cent of the questions have already been answered. Has the message been received? I guess not. People whom cannot conceive the truth before there eyes, simply ... Anyone whom uses violence towards his brother is a murderer and will fail in his cause.
Has it sunk in yet?
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
you're annoying. you don't even make sense. this is the last reply you'll see from me. i appreciate all the comments.
zzz33333 2 years ago
I can live without all this crap, and i want to.
you can do it, as can all of us, we don't need preservatives or plastic, or energy or oil, or machines or fucking any of that. we don't need refrigerators, or cell phones or microwaves, or toilet paper, fuck it all.
If you can look at something and say "i don't HAVE to have this to survive" then that thing, whatever it is, MUST go in the trash, and never to be unearthed again. that's what must be done.
felkajamine 2 years ago
Fuck, we even gotta trash the trash. it's all gotta goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
felkajamine 2 years ago
ohh yeah that makes perfect sense, ark
so lets just find all the people on the earth that are doing something good, or making an impact, or doing anything really, and just tell them all to stop the thing that they are doing for three months. then after they do that, then what gets proven!?!?!?! WTF is wrong with this Ark dude?
doing that would be absurd. I don't know which is more nuts, civilization or YOU backing civilization up and making excuses for it.
felkajamine 2 years ago
Well I'm off to bed now, so if there are any questions I will tray to answer them tomorrow.
Have a nice day and remember to help those less fortunate.
LOVE
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
please keep talking. my respect for you grows with every keystroke
cchilder 2 years ago
Back to the video clip, I object to the overlay of a cross being used in the clip. You advocate rebellion against the teachings of that faith. Why do you use religious iconography in your video clip? Sounds like alot of idolatry to me.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
.... i didn't edit this video, charlie did. also, i didn't think the "cross" over my face had anything to do with religion. it's just a shape.
seriously, though, can you stop just hating on this video please? like, you haven't really said anything worthwhile. you've just looked for different things to hate on.
why don't you, like, i don't know, make your OWN goddamn video? show me how it's done? or take your OWN break from youtube? show me how it's done?
zzz33333 2 years ago
also, i DON'T advocate rebellion against the teachings of that faith.
technically, i advocate the teachings of that faith, and the churches don't.
zzz33333 2 years ago
Blessed is he whom is insulted in my name, for he has salvation in truth.
Repent my lying friend. For you know not who I am.
And have a nice day.
oh!
If a question is enquired of me I am duty bound to answer it. Are there any more questions that I have missed?
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
Can you not take constructive criticism my friend, must we all love your works of man. It is vanity under the sun to expect all to love works that project violence on humanity. Where is the love in this? I am not anti-humanity, but you want to hurt our fellow man, this is the message you give in this clip.
You are trying to project your hatred of humanity onto me and I refuse to accept it. I do not consent.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
I don't hate your video my friend, hatred is the work of unrighteousness and pride. I stand behind my values and when I say something I try my best to do what I say, unlike some.
I still love you my friend, and forgive you for your unrighteousness toward me.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
you too are forgiven for all your past judgments and insulting comments. for i know that you are lost in wilderness of your own mind. may you go in peace and not return to stormy shores.
bbbleaver 2 years ago
bbleaver that is your incorrect interpretation ... was it I that says do away with civilisation and yet a simple test of this faith rejected by Zack whom we can only make the conclusion that he is a false prophet that speaks of murder to his fellow civilised humanity. Three months was all I requested.
How soon the vipers bite when exposed!
Satan s (unrighesness) plan is the destruction of this world.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
soaa wrote -"he...speaks of murder to his fellow civilised humanity." not sure how you come to that conclusion? where is that stated?
first, civilization does not = humanity. civ is one culture out of 6000. how is making room and acceptance of other ways of life including All other species by challenging the root of this destruction (our current way of life and consumption) lead you to think we're out to kill everyone? it's change were after not destruction.
bbbleaver 2 years ago
Are you talking to me my friend bbleaver, then please have the civilised humanity to address me respectfully. I do this for you!
Now what were the questions?
Say it nice!
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
when i think of "civilized" behaviour i see columbus landing in the carribean meeting the indigenous peoples there and commenting in his diary how docile, kinda, and without guile they were and then following up with, i'd only need a 1000 men to subdue them all! you count on me never using any facet of civilized behaviour to address let alone using such black and white thinking to treat others -
bbbleaver 2 years ago
his point is to try with all possible methods to keep civilization going and to display some type of reason why civilization is so amazing
it is ingrained in these people to back this madness up, and the more they talk the less sense they make. until one day they realize the nonsense themselves and they too will put a fist in the air!
people must stop trying to reach Utopia. That is our downfall.
felkajamine 2 years ago
Vexatious litigation my friend MsAIRBONTOXICEVENT.
Your reply is ....
No I'm not, you never knew me.
and
No I will not just go away, because you feel threatened by the truth.
Oh yeah: St John "You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free"
Tell Rellogs we wont buy your Christendom grain until you feed the starving in Africa with Gods free grain gift. Yes! sometimes the truth hurts.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
.... huh??????
zzz33333 2 years ago
ending civilzation is not about being pure, not having blood on our hands. its about doing whatever it takes to stop the harm. z has reahed lots of people through vdeos, so i say keep at it.
cchilder 2 years ago
z, remember the lady who told us to put down the signs and got all angry with us? why did we keep on addressing her? the only thing we should say to her is "you and your mental kin are completely irrelevant, not stupid, not assholes, just irrelevant. please get out of the way, because i have work to do"
cchilder 2 years ago
yeah... i need to keep that in mind. we should hang out more.
zzz33333 2 years ago
Daniel Quinn (born 1935 in Omaha, Nebraska)
He is 74 years of age; an Elder.
Murdered by cchilder because he was an elder.
Let us rejoice for we are in the kingdom of cchilder. Shall I order the zyklon B now?
Thank goodness we still have YouTube and mobile phones and hypocrisy! Said King Cchilder.
Guess he's goin 2 report me now cus he can't stand the truth that he's a liar to the cause he claims to represent. Let us see if free speech is muzzled. LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
What is your goal Zack, to silence all whom are disappointed by your false teachings? Are you so perfect that your lack of wisdom is replaced by rebellion. You are a liar in the fact that you say you can do without Youtube, but do not. How can we believe your messages? Practice what you preach false prophet!
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
Bows down and cries at bbleavers feet. Please messiah of death: tell me where I am going wrong. Are we not taught to respect our Elders in your culture of perfection? Your a bullshit artist (colloquial term of Australia) you exclude me from your world. Where is my love? LIAR I am alone!
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
where are you going wrong? 1. you ask questions, then use the answer as ammo for attack 2. you make assumptions about the others and pre-conclude you are somehow right 3. you make claims of wisdom and levy demands of respect without showing one or giving examples of the other. 4. you are judgmental, insulting, critictizing, and evaluative in all your comments - ie not appreciative, responsive, or understanding of anyones position - 5. YOU came to Us. not the other way around.
bbbleaver 2 years ago
6. you are projecting and inserting YOUR interpretation of this video onto others as though it were fact. seriously sonaa if one is capable of empathy you'd hear something like this - "I am really concerned about the world and all Her inhabitants (myself included)!! i want to do something about it - because i see the root of the problem! - OUR way of life. we are collectively reducing our chances of living here beyond 100yrs if we don't act now.
bbbleaver 2 years ago
Hey I just looked at your channel bbleaver, your almost as old as I am.
Better get ready for cchilders zyklon B.
It's all your fault says cchilder. LOL
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
huh...??????????
zzz33333 2 years ago
this shit is like having a bad trip... what is it that you want to do once you are able to kill off most of humanity by bringing down civilization? I would like to know the plan after your terror plot succeeds. btw I've seen other videos of yours and I've read all the quinn and jensen books and more. What is the aftermath to ya'lls endgame?
episteme420 2 years ago
you sound frightened and worried about all of humanity being killed if civilization were to go away? it's seems there is a 'belief' that just civilized people = humanity. i'd like to note that there are 6000 other cultures still in existence today and 98% of them aren't reliant on civilization being around and in fact are going extinct because of it. civilized culture makes up less than a percent of all known cultures. hope that helps set your mind at ease. it's humanity were saving-not civ.
bbbleaver 2 years ago
what is i want to do... once civilization ends? be free.
terror plot...? it's not a terror plot. read what bbbleaver says above me.
the aftermath would be the same as the millions of years of human existence before civilization, ideally. something about tribes and self-sufficiency and walking in balance and living in the hand of the gods, flowing with the tao.
which books by quinn or jensen have you read?
zzz33333 2 years ago
There will always be civilisation, the only way it will not exit, is if all humanity is killed. If ten are left and able to reproduce you have a civilisation in it's infant form. Proven in history.
Zack cannot live without YouTube, so we must assume then, that my friend is composing a thought system based on non violent methods. What is that old saying, you cannot have your cake and eat it.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
..... "proven in history." what the fuck are you talking about? humans lived on earth for ten million years without building civilization. just because i have a dick does not mean i am going to rape somebody.
"zack cannot live without youtube" what the fuck are you talking about? of course i can live without youtube. i don't make a video every day. i am not on youtube every day. i consider the work i do on here to be IMPORTANT. i am not on youtube for fun.
what is your point?
zzz33333 2 years ago
even if the earth was only 6000 years old (not assuming you believe that) the vast majority of people who have lived on earth were NOT civilization builders. just because a single insane culture has swept over the continents and wiped out or reduced the populations of the 1000's and 1000's and 1000's of other cultures does not mean all people were meant to live 'this way' as civilized. that is your myth or lie, whatever.
bbbleaver 2 years ago
this is fucking awesome
wtfisthisification 2 years ago
Zack are you a pacifist as you stated, or rebellious, are you willing to give up all the basics that civilisation offers you.
Now don't tell fibs.
Destroy civilisation you destroy the world along with it. Educate the locusts and reject controlling technologies and wise up to sustainability. Say no thank you Mr IBM, we don't want your cow tags in our bodies. (RFID)
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
when did i say i was a pacifist?
i am willing to give up civilization to save the world. are you?
"destroy civilization you destroy the world along with it." huh? how do you figure? civilization is the thing that's KILLING the world, not keeping it alive.
zzz33333 2 years ago
Zack my friend, you said "MY cell phone tower? fuck it. of course I can live without all of those things. "
Are you not by employment a bicycle courier and rely on such technology for that employment?
Can you live with no money, no house, no internet, no mp3, no running tap water, no mixing equipment, no auto-tune etc.
I don't put you down as an hypocrite.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
... yes, my business requires the use of a cell phone. yes, i'd give it up. of course i can live without delivering chinese take-out.
i dont have any mixing equipment, i hate auto-tune, and i can live without the other things.
a hypocrite is someone who advises others to perform an action which he himself will not perform.
zzz33333 2 years ago
i don't just say "abandon civilization individually," i say, "help bring down civilization," which i am doing. giving up toys is a part of that - i've already given up a bunch of stuff. in the meantime i need money and delivering packages using a cell phone is better than working for IHOP. or don't you agree? what do you think i should do? what do you do?
oh, well, i guess you don't do anything since you say all you need is love and god to save the world. right?
zzz33333 2 years ago
Thanks for the lyrics Zack! Maybe on reverbnation there is a lyrics feature?
bflanger 2 years ago
i think you're right! i've put them up there!
zzz33333 2 years ago
Zack said, disrespectfully to an elder " I am willing to give up civilization to save the world. are you?"
Prove it ... No youTube or reverberation until march 1 next year, no new clips posted by yourself or via friends from today. No comments on your or any other members. Let us see if you are genuine in what you say. Let us see if you can live without YouTube Reverberation. Or are you an hypocrite child.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
.... disrespectfully? what was disrespectful about what i said?
why are you so angry, calling me a "hypocrite child?"
i could abstain from youtube for a year. what would be the point? it's an important year in an important time, and i make important videos. what would be gained by me abstaining from youtube? i already abstain from driving, buying clothes, smoking cigarettes, playing video games, watching television, using all but the smallest amounts of electricity.
zzz33333 2 years ago
how can i actually affect change? holding off of making videos is not going to help anything.
zzz33333 2 years ago
Zack lied and said disrespectfully to an elder " oh, well, i guess you don't do anything since you say all you need is love and god to save the world. right?"
II never said that . where did I say that?
You know nothing of my life child and what I have suffered in life for the cause you claim to represent.
Put your money where you mouth is (figuratively) and do without your internet until march the 1st next year.
Concede you cannot totally do without civilisation or see you in March.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
who is this.... techno-swirly-music-video man?
the logic you're using is really faulty. i can't follow it. if you don't want to see my videos, don't watch them. you can pretend i stopped making them.
respect your juniors. they're closer to god than you are.
zzz33333 2 years ago
Why do you not respect yourself Zack for practising what you preach.
I like many of your better clips, but your losing me man. How can I respect you when you don't respect your principals.
The fabric of society disintegrates when a child disrespects his Elders. Is this the kingdom of zack.
I like you, I want only to correct your stumbling path. You will never achieve what you want until you respect yourself and your Elders.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
as for respecting our elders, i would first ask for our elders to respect us. not only did you completely FUCK UP our world but now your telling us to not raise our voices about it. cant you see how self-serving your point of view is? your techniques got us into this mess. dont we have a right to try something new without you being a total dick to us about it?
please, if you dont want to help, then fine. but YOU MUST GET OUT OF THE WAY.
cchilder 2 years ago
well put chris.
very clear, that when a demand of respect comes at us without the example of respect being given by the demandee it falls flat... and i can only imagine an elder is someone who can 'hear' the anger or concern and answer or address what's being expressed without first crying like a child pretending to be daddy or mommy, "don't speak to me that way!" we were raised by slaves who dream of being masters and we can't depend on their examples to be of any value' until they can hear'
bbbleaver 2 years ago
i am tired of people who got us knee deep into this shit show telling us how we are only gonna get out by doing exactly what we did to gt in. ITS NOT YOUR TURN TO RUN THE SHOW ANYMORE. YOU ARE IRRELEVANT. please retire and get out of the way while we try something else.
cchilder 2 years ago
WICKED!
PassionOfGeist 2 years ago
Maybe you could publish the lyrics somewhere (especially for non-native English speakers)?
bflanger 2 years ago
... where?
i'll send 'em to ya!
zzz33333 2 years ago
Your hypotheses is incorrect bbbleaver, Gandhi did win, passive resistance did win and he died a righteous man without blood on his hands. For he knew the mystery of God and it wasn't the 25th of December lie either! ;-) How can you tend sheep in winter in freezing teps.., and the stars would not be in that position in the sky as mentioned in scripture. End of June, scientists say. How can we believe
Christendom the Jewel of Kingdoms?
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
not a hypothesis. what changed in india? the presence of imperial nations never went away and the quality of life that has also been low since their arrival has only increased... and yes there are many who are being educated to work for substandard pay in industries (not owned by indians) but who wants to work for a company that cares nothing for you or your country longterm? just so you can pay to live?
success would have meant true freedom - the absence of their oppressors. hasn't happened.
bbbleaver 2 years ago
every time you make a good point, he stops responding...it's like he's setting you up to make undebatable points...he seems to be an ally afterall. :op
ItsFilthy 2 years ago
download this video to your own channel - and use it as a vid response!!
bbbleaver 2 years ago
sweet fx
kamikazewatermelon12 2 years ago
really cool music!
bflanger 2 years ago
You can download it for free if you want.
AdamHintz 2 years ago
this is a banger
TheDesine 2 years ago
Word.
AdamHintz 2 years ago
Word.
ItsFilthy 2 years ago
This should be on the radio.
phreecfrancis 2 years ago
Agreed.
AdamHintz 2 years ago
Agreed.
ItsFilthy 2 years ago
wow that was sweet
kahisawheel 2 years ago
Word.
AdamHintz 2 years ago
Word.
ItsFilthy 2 years ago
Absolutely great
iLoveEverythingAlive 2 years ago
Totally.
AdamHintz 2 years ago
Totally.
ItsFilthy 2 years ago
simply amazing..
1moreslave 2 years ago
I didn't like it. It seems to lack sincerity and honesty. Technically it would be better with less visual movement in imagery. Keep up the good work Zack and your tolerance is noted! At least it was in NTSC (29fps) this time.
BTW. I have seen most of your work.
Change can only be achieved by non-violence and tolerance to ALL sections of society. God in Heaven demands nothing less.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
"Change can only be achieved by non-violence." Not quite. Even Marx knew this.
xx13moons 2 years ago
What of the fall of Communism? Was this not achieved by non-violence? The exit of England from India? The downfall of apartheid in South Africa? All of these events were the works of non-violent change. Did violence cause these changes? No. People power caused them. Simply say; no thank you. A government cannot contain a society of unwilling participants, they have no option but to give in.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
... communism hasn't fallen.
england hasn't exited india.
south africa, and the rest of the world, is still relatively segregated. it just isn't always based on phenotype anymore.
also, all of those causes had something this cause lacks, which is an informed, motivated population. the population of the civilized world is, for the most part, ignorant and lazy. if we go out into the street and allow ourselves to get beat up and arrested, who cares?
nobody even watches it on TV.
zzz33333 2 years ago
Is Russia the birth place of communism not a capitalist nation now? (ref Marx)
Is India not an independent nation of it's own destiny?
South Africa abolished apartheid, it is enshrined in the law of that nation.
How can you expect change when you deny the evolution of the very cause that you want to achieve?
Does anyone allow themselves to be beat up and arrested? This is a paradoxical statement my friend.
I care if people are beat up and arrested, you should too, my friend.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
... i do care.
zzz33333 2 years ago
i don't really get your message. i say all options are on the table. you're talking some shit about how violence won't work. okay, you should not be violent.
what does any of this have to do with the song...?
zzz33333 2 years ago
Read my first comment, Zack. No one has ever achieved what YOU aim for by violent methods.
You aim for sustainability and equity. Yet you yourself do not come over as a tolerant person in this clip.
How to start your revolution, pick up the rubbish that another person has thrown down on the pavement, but many say I didn't drop it; so why should I pick it up ... and the world died.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
no one has ever achieved what i aim for, because there has never been a global civilization so global civilization has never been voluntarily ended.
with such a huge task, how can you remove options?
... i don't come over as a tolerant person? well, i'm not. i'm intolerant of ignorance and laziness and cruelty and evil. i'm intolerant of civilization and i want you to be, too.
i already pick up trash and don't litter, and the world is still burning.
what else can we do?
zzz33333 2 years ago
Zack tell me was not the British empire given away in the end? Did she not see the writing on the wall? Did not Russia give it's empire away? Did Russia not see the writing on the wall? Shall we speak of China? The revolution is in progress, it has been for centuries.
Violence only begets violence. Passive resistance works, has been proven to work and does work.
And I know you pick up after others because your a good boy. I can say this because I'm an elder. :o)
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
i love this, "violence begets violence." watch me shoot it down:
every empire that's ever existed has used violence to conquer. now, 2009, we're living under a global empire and we say, "violence only begets violence."
well, that's obviously not true. if violence begets violence, then we'd all be violent instead of a bunch of pacifists! we've all had nothing but violence imposed upon us from day one, and we're docile.
violence does not only beget violence. sometimes it begets pacifism.
zzz33333 2 years ago
empires were not 'given away' - they just changed names. the 'few' continue exploit and "control resources" funneling the wealth to the top of the "pyramid". nothing changed fundamentally when the ussr changed it's name... wars have increased, the # poor have increased,.,..more and more of everything we have already seen. ghandi even said, if non-violent resistance doesn't work, we will take up arms! he didn't get that far. and- resistance only creates opposition. there's more than 2 options.
bbbleaver 2 years ago
i agree that : no options should be left out, closing the doors to possibility is not smart. nonviolent actions have not worked. and neither has open resistance (not saying to stop doing either). a system 'designed' to protect itself at all costs (even in the face of total annihilation) is one that deserves "special" treatment - cultural assimilation (giving & getting from people what you/they want and need - giving them something "better" than what they have now,.,.,,...)
bbbleaver 2 years ago
Now others whom advocate violence to infrastructure? What if it knocked down your cell phone tower for your wireless or even copper/optical cables internet connection?
Can you live without running water, telephones, radio, television, xbox etc.
What we need to do is use what we have wisely. Civilisation is not the enemy, greedy overlords whom have no care for the environment are. When it hits them in the pocket they will move for your cause. Don't buy what you don't really need.
stoodOnAnArk 2 years ago
... MY cell phone tower? fuck it.
of course i can live without all of those things. fuck all of those things.
civilization breeds greed, civilization teaches us how to feel about the "environment."
civilization is the problem.
check out Endgame, the book by Derrick Jensen. much of it is available online.
zzz33333 2 years ago
So how can change be achieved?
AdamHintz 2 years ago
'Change can only be achieved by non-violence and tolerance to ALL sections of society'
umm... so we gotta tolerate slave masters and planet killers? we gotta tolerate rapists, racists, murdrers?
Even Jesus didn't tolerate the money changes, remember the whip of cords? - 'how dare you turn my Fathers house into a house of murchandise'.
You don't speak for God you speak from your own heart.
planktonicorganism 2 years ago
yet if jesus felt that money was so wrong why would he take a tax collector under his wing? I agree with zzz3333, there can not be understanding for all parts of society until there is a united society, until that is acheived all were doing is talking. Change can be acheived through many means including violance, it may not be the best method but it is possible.
fc7ke6rp 2 years ago
yo. he said 'i have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance' - plus that tax collector gave everything away to join him.
if you going to wait for all of society to be united we all going to die. would the slave states have been defeated if they were 'tolerated' and everyone waited for a united society?
blowing up roads, breaking machines, bending bars and burning money ain't violence.
planktonicorganism 2 years ago
wow...this is amazing
ItsFilthy 2 years ago
yes it is
ItsFilthy 2 years ago
AWESOME song! AWESOME video!!!!!!
dpg35000 2 years ago
This is so powerful! EXCELLENT lyrics.....EXCELLENT editing! Great job everyone! Sorry my stuff got turned in late! :(
ambervisions 2 years ago
goin hard
lukushendrix 2 years ago
completely SICK, man
loving your messages, you always keep topping yourself! i know i don't have to tell you to keep it up, but yeah, KEEP IT UP!!!!
thanks for this!
felkajamine 2 years ago
AMAZING.
Nice collab.
hillexallen 2 years ago
crazy man! i need dl link for this! haha.
Certifyde444 2 years ago
check the description box!
zzz33333 2 years ago
Unbelievable ...
That was fantastic, better than most of the commercial stuff floating around out there.
Keep up the good work ....
Peace to all who contributed
Projoiner1 2 years ago
This is great I love it....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wenstephan 2 years ago
wow this awesome, great job to all contributors, keep it up.
Thinkforyourself11 2 years ago
nice
grit123 2 years ago
when "knowledge-rap" hits the mainstream, you'll be WAY ahead of the game.
donHooligan 2 years ago
right on zack.
real f*ckin lyrics.
donHooligan 2 years ago
great job guys
teawizard 2 years ago
Huzzah
ozjthomas 2 years ago
featured
iTellYouNoLie 2 years ago
dope
Yell0wFace 2 years ago
i second the posting of lyrics!
this is great!
wheresthebody 2 years ago
the lyrics are too long for the description box!
can't you hear them??
zzz33333 2 years ago
Damn the Dams , for they only stop the natural flow of things. =)
Great Job People =)
czarwright 2 years ago
well at least you're pretty good at rhyming
TheObnubilators 2 years ago