How to Fence : How to do an Advanced Flick Fencing Attack

[Saiyan3775]

If you guys don't like this video and you already know what flicking is then why are you watching it?

[coredor]

Unsportsmanlike.

[FJKinc]

ok first off ive only fenced for about an year and a half AND I CAN FRICKED FLICK BETTER THAN THAT ok on !;15 ur not suppose to have ur arm bent like that and second the first flicks you did were barely 1 cm. you used the brown door as ur background and u had so much white spaces =.= in general u should never fence you do not deserve to even joke about knowing how to fence if i were to fence you rite now u would of come home with a epee blade up ur ass

[ProyectMooneJazzers]

@Macaddict54

Sorry if I am an Épée player and I have to constantly worry about all my body...can't you just say "You are slightly wrong since this is foil"? No you must be the next Sergei Golubitsky.

[ProyectMooneJazzers]

That is going to result in your wrist being exposed to the tip of your opponent resulting in you losing and him scoring.

I may be a beginner but that is bloody basic!

[jamicandude1]

i dont understand why so many people hate this? :I

[GMBFencer]

This is why I don't learn fencing on youtube.

[ToaRanen7]

Shouldn't you flick with your wrist instead of the arm, so you don't put your self at risk for a quick moment, and so you can get a bunch of different angles with your wrist, but I've never fenced, just sword fought, and dueled with other weapons too.

[ToaRanen7]

Shouldn't you flick with your wrist instead of the arm, so you don't put your self at risk for a quick moment, and so you can get a bunch of different angles with your wrist.

[tortillathespicy]

not even close

[rlev155]

1 step forward while he is lifting his hand, and its your point :p

[AndyAgony]

I understand the best way to defend against that is just to take a simple advance or cross over to close the distance.`

[vilma8989]

thx dude!! from /sweden norra ängbys fäktklubb

[michwng]

These are very poorly done flicks. It is somewhat like a whipping motion, but definitely not pulled back. That would be a coupe flick and this man is using his wrist a bit much. Also, he seems to lean his elbow far out. He's almost always going to miss his attacks. It's a finger action

[jmbstat]

1:00 most people cant luke perry :3

[IHSspiritandsong]

moving forward does NOT create right of way. Flicking is "ify" as point in line is highest priority level of right of way and extendING of the arm which occurs almost simultaneously with the attach. Moving forward is prepatory and does nothing to gain right of way to the attacker. It works but don't think ROW is moving forward

[GMBFencer]

@IHSspiritandsong Moving forward DOES create a right of way. and flicking is not "ify" so long as there is no hesitation before the attack.

[IndianaJonny]

@GMBFencer That's not the case for Foil, chum. Like IHSspiritandsong says, movement foward without a corresponding extension of the arm is a preparation, not a seizure of priority. Does a balestra seize priority? I don't have to respond to someone hopping down the piste, that doesn't threaten me. If they do so with their arm extended and foil aimed at me, then I threatened and must respond.

[luvinwafflez]

if i saw someone trying to do that to me, i wouldn't even bother parrying that, because its not even going to land... I am left handed and actually would like to see a video or some way of helping me flick right handed fencers on the back, if anyone who KNOWS how to flick makes a video please?

[sean151291]

who the fuck is brad bogus?

[nudiedudie5]

no. im sorry but very very wrong

[lanthrow]

I just want to point out that the flick doesnt even work in eletric foil.

[nudiedudie5]

@lanthrow you can still flick with the foil. the flick is different than it once was before the box changes. but flicks are still used at the highest levels. just spent time having lessons with sergei golubitksy along with different talks with him and he often talked about the use of flicks

[nudiedudie5]

@lanthrow you can still flick with the foil. the flick is different than it once was before the box changes. but flicks are still used at the highest levels. just spent time having lessons with sergei golubitksy along with different talks with him and he often talked about the use of flicks. just not the way the guy in the video discribed it though

[BohemianGod]

If anyone has come here to learn the flick, take note of these facts: the 'flick' is not actually a whipping motion as represented here, nor does it use the 'wrist.' 1. it actually uses the FINGERS and requires exceptional FINGER STRENGTH. 2. you don't actually bring the blade back like a whip as this guy does in the video, the bend in the blade is generated from finger strength. Flick is a misnomer, if you want to flick, find a good coach and learn to hit properly and use your fingers!

[Trak69]

cacota de vaca gorda

[thehobbit03]

lol i did this move the guy turned round and said "who did that"

[litlwyteguy]

A nice tricky ...sneaky attack with the flick. Say whip please! The only think you flick is a clit.

[BigFatty666]

@litlwyteguy highly doubt that :L

[saghms91]

simple plz go find someone who can do the right way and can't block a flick plz go learn the basic man

[modymoo2]

faggot

[flaze3]

To do a good flick takes a lot of practice, and it's not as easy as this guy makes it out to be.

[ElDruze]

Are there ratings available? Because if the Instructor has a high rating- then maybe we would be more likely to pay attention ,instead of Net monkeys tapping on our keyboards.

[michwng]

Your hand positions made me laugh. If you flick in those positions, it is very easy to step in and lock you out. As well, you're leaving quite big openings.

[JasonFMW]

To

WrightWindWrath: i so damn agree with you.

[WrightWindWrath]

ExpertVillage, I must say, you are far from the caliber of your name.

ALL of your videos are less than amateurish, or even wrong.

From recording demos to fencing demos.

Put simply, you suck, the whole bunch of you.

[theclassact56]

venomlord 99, the benfit of bringing your arm back is that is restrict the type of defense your opponent can make, its harder for them to make blade contact for a parry. making it easier to push them to their end of the piest and keep in control of the movement of the bout

[ICHbinI]

wonder if people think they'll becone world champions by watching these videos...

[Venomlord99]

I'm not even a foilist, but I can tell you that if you flick like that--like you're swinging a club with your whole arm--your will not catch your opponent off-guard.

[Guitarmike216]

Can't you only flick with a saber? i don't know I'm just a kid.

[VonKutlery]

what a goon.

[sanoichiro1]

all i know is i just want to fence this clown and show him what a real flick is... on his nuts

[sabremask]

Gonads don't count in saber.

And who would want to ??

You should aim higher !

[jmos58]

I honestly started laughing at this... It's pathetic. You flick like that, you're screwed plain and simple. I've been fencing fencing all three swords for 7 years now. I can honestly say that this puts flicking to shame. Get someone who knows what they're talking about, PLEASE!!!

[AlexRobinson1234]

@jmos58 his name is Brad Bogus for fks sake...

[BDpill359]

He's doing it completely wrong. Effective flicks are done with only your fingers, otherwise they're easily read and parried. Also, you won't hit with it. He's using his entire arm... And his En Gaurde makes me want to punch a baby.

[BDpill359]

His terminology is terrible, and he flicks terribly. He's more likely to end up slashing them, which will get the touch against you since the machine won't register this. Being slashed is often painful.

Side-note, I can't find this guy's rating anywhere, which probably means that he's just another U who calls himself an "expert" because he's fenced for about 2 months. I've been at it for 7 years now (since I was 9) and still don't consider myself an expert, although I AM ranked.

[schokoprinz]

it'd be useful if he showed it on someone. but yeah, there is way more to it than that.

[hezabimu]

why does expert village suck at everything?

[shadowmaster1218]

i agree lol.

[KissTheBall]

It's one of the paradoxes of life. Expert village is the actual noob village. people should watch their videos to see what "NOT" to do.

[mxc2133]

what an idiot, if you flick like that your gonna lose so badly

i also bet that he doesnt atually fence and hes just paid to make this video with instructions

if you want to flick i advise to

GET A COACH

[cdavisfour]

I have found that the most effective use of a flick is not to the shoulder, but to the inside of someone of opposite hand use. Otherwise, I don't like to use it because it can be unreliable (occasionally you just cannot make it depress the point)

[edmund085]

stop arguing. You are only wasting some other's people's time. Don't you want poor people who cannot afford must have to pay so that he/she may learn. That's wrong! The purpose of this video is to help others who cannot afford, needy and poor persons. Don't be hog or a greedy persons.

[L192]

i still advise getting a coach, but if you want some advice on flicking:

1) keep your wrist above the target.

2) when you flick, keep your wrist relaxed and bend it the most possible while still keeping a tight grip with your fingers. (this can be hard)

the bending of the wrist keeps the point on target much longer than if you do it like him, which is necessary on the new timings.

flicks are probably most safely used on parry reposts, as you can control the distance better.

get a coach though

[jamesmccubbin]

My fencing coach was an old guy, who taught sword fighting in the british style. A defensive parry/riposte army style. We used foils and epees, always with the french grip, and with the emphasis on parry rather than attack. The olympic style, with pistol grip and whip points is athletic, and I dont doubt that great sport fencers have great skill.I dislike the whip as far as classic fencing goes, and feel that it distances the sport from it's roots. Just my opinion, not a damning of top athletes.

[Bi0mec]

I will guarantee that you will not be able to perform a 'flick' as he calls it, from this video, if you want to learn it, go and ask a fencing 'coach' to teach you, it needs constant practice and refinement which you cannot achieve from watching this. sorry but its a waste of time.

[hamster1980]

This is nice if it works- however I used to get so pissed off with crappy people trying to land them all the time in competition and just getting you flat across the shoulder because they couldn't carry it off. If you are going to try something flash I usually favour something that looks a bit nicer.

[draugsdaziem]

i love flick!!! it solves everything on everyone!

[rocketcheese]

at the national championships sum1 did that to me 5 times. they lost 15-2 nil and they ussually beat me so, uh, no it dusn't

[thewildchimp]

Wow, not only this guy knows nothing about tutoring (saw some other vids of his), he is also "tricky" & "sneaky". Try "flipping" some "inflexible" and "unbending" 1.1+kg of steel, @#$@%!^@, and teach people how to fight like men (and ladies, of course). %@@*%$^!

[RubiksCubeFreak]

He's not very good at describing things but if you are a visual learner then I'd say that he's a great coach, plus a foil is generally flexible and really easy to flick with.

[duelist0001]

The flick is an abonimation. It robs fencing out of its dueling heritage. The cut over, or coupe, is a valid attack.  The flick? Its fencing garbage.

[jeffmcharlton]

i disagree. Given how difficult it is to land a flick with priority these days, it is pretty balanced. Maybe thats just my opinion because of how many points i get w/ flicks, but they really arent hard to get around.

[jedimasterham]

I hate the flick!! it always gets me!!!

[jeffmcharlton]

you wouldnt wanna fence me then lol.

[RubiksCubeFreak]

I would suggest that you try flicking and/or parry other's flicks and then riposte

[reyn1r]

Wow! im impressed by your fencing skills. NOT!

[litlwyteguy]

this guy is the biggest Jabronie

[BlackValkyire]

I want to learn how to fence, it looks so fun!

[shortbread93]

i hope your not being sarcastic (you probably are) but fencing is incredibly fun, find a club , thats not taught buy this guy, i bet after a few weeks you will love it> :P

[BlackValkyire]

no, im actually being deadly serious!

I'm addicted to swords and love watching fights with blades, also i think it would be a good way to get in shape. If i could afford it, I would, and in my local area...there isn't much for fencing, haha.

[jeffmcharlton]

well thats awesome for u. Fencing is by far my fav sport and it is loads of fun.

[Athena82487]

Nothing wrong with flicking. It takes a lot of skill, strategy, and upper body strength to use a flick effectively in a bout.

[jeffmcharlton]

amen to that

[L192]

fencing is a sport. in sports people do whatever works to win. if u don't like it, don't compete.

[rdzg]

I think it really just comes down to the coach some dont like the flick cause its not "proper" but the rules have changed so that you can use it.

[rollyz2000]

Flicks should be black carded!

[L192]

you obviously suck at fencing.

[rollyz2000]

Flicking is not fencing. Its a stupid move, not even real sword play. Only wankers love it because they can't fence and its just a cheap shot. Blades should be made less flexable, seeing that 1600 newtons will stop anything.

[L192]

if fencing were real swordplay, you'd be dead. fencing is a **sport** and if you are remotely decent, you should at least be able to defend against flicks even if you don't use them.

[rollyz2000]

I'd rather be playing the sport as it was meant to be than to be "Fly fishig" or "Cowboy whipping". Yes I can defend the flicks, and many flickers leave themselfs open in their attack.....but it is still a stupid move and just a cheap shot.

[L192]

if u can defend against it, its not a cheap shot, don't complain take advantage of people that use it.

btw. no high level fencers share your opinion.

[rollyz2000]

Its no total worry to me, but I still believe its a cheap move. It was so good when they finally stiffened the blades for Sabre, that brought back blade work into the sport, rather than the dreaded Sabre Charge. The same should be done with the Foil. Though the new electronic timings help :)

[L192]

The new timings do not eliminate good flicks(not like this guy). They just brought about squirmy/spazzy fencing (if u like "propper" fencing I don't think this was the result you were looking for). Flicks help teach these people to sit up straight by punishing them when they bend over.

[rollyz2000]

You have a good point ! :)

[RubiksCubeFreak]

I absolutely disagree because it's a way of getting your tip on target and it is rather hard to land one.

[sean151291]

Bam wrong your flick just didnt register when you flick dont whip leave you wrist pointing down to make sure you get the hit

[k0r0na1]

i think flicks should be used with caution because when most people flick they bend their arm and there for an opponent could just attack into your bent arm.

i also think its best to get an experienced coach to show you how to perform this move as it can take quite a while to master!

[RubiksCubeFreak]

just saying but the arm isn't target in foil, only in epee and saber

[DraginHeart14]

...But the shoulder is...

[k0r0na1]

yeah sorry bout that! i meant that if they started to attack when your bent your arm it would be there point. didnt mean for your to hit there arm as it would be pointless. im talking foil here!

[ironmanalasdair]

yeah, I have to agree with the comments here. Having done foil at a national level, I can safely say this guy wouldn't make it to double digits in a bout with any serious fencer. His lunge looks retarded, and he has no subtlety. Not to mention his accent would be enough to put me in a black rage and execute what he sees as 'the flick' right into his crotch.

[gabbytron001]

the shitty part that he is right about is the right of way; fuck i hate foil sometimes.

[MarcArtem]

This is one terrible fencer...

[cusackginger]

1 problem...GOOD FENCERS CAN PARRY FLICKS!

[rdzg]

he said most he didnt say all

[porthos456]

yeah works in theory, but with the new timings, it is even harder to do, plus if you aren't any good at it, (like me) you are more likely to simply whip your opponent.

[pastexxx]

He's using his wrist instead of his fingers...i guess what ever floats your boat eh

[IainShovelin]

This is awful. At least the instructor is confident in his inabilities. Bad Technique & I'm not surprised we never see him actually execute the move on another fencer.