Wow, this woman is beyond nuts, pregnancy destroys families? this woman had children out of wed lock, and the fault is hers and the baby daddy, what a bunch of crap.
yeah well, tha Mayans killed their children too, sacraficed them to their gods. well, they arent around anymore, so killing the next generation isnt really a good idea, all the rest of us will get old and die off.the family ie a mother and father and kids together is the only family unit that will succeed, not a mom with 4 or 5 kids all by herself. men step up! actually be MEN
Give your kids some fresh fruit you cheap sob. And if your kids get abused thats the white people fault too. Its so pathetic. Stares with you? man thats so iggi.
How about you do not have sex with every fool who offers you his junk? How about your role in YOUR life? What a bunch of loser mentality garbage. Folks need to stop making excuses and passing the blame. You want a life? Start by not getting pregnant at 18, fool. Plan on not killing any babies.
Wow. really? You went with the mayonnaise sandwiches? Maybe America is just to tough for ya all? Its a competitive society. Common sense and personal responsibility are required to survive and thrive in America. You don't seem to have the instincts to succeed. The women are alone? You say it like its someone else s fault. What about the random hook up the women CHOSE to Mate with who is not being a man?
She is the evidence of a systematic failure of public education where the ability to logically reason is no longer taught. Applying this woman's failed "logic" to the Continent of Africa would result in the non existence of most people there.
Of course it's logical that we should force ppl with strong religious conviction to fund abortion clinics...ones that made a profit last year, by the way...and ones that contribute large amounts of money to democrats. Moore isn't asking for better health care, she's asking everyone to pay for ppl too dumb or lazy to use birth control...more liberal belief in entitlement to other ppls money for their problems. She is a disgusting individual but I hope she's glad she wasn't aborted herself.
Well, some people claim they can remember things when they were in the womb. I can't remember things from when I was a non-sapient newborn, but I'm glad I wasn't killed. Have to wonder why people okay with killing fetuses get so outraged when someone throws their unwanted neonate in the dumpster. Seems odd to me.
People recoil in fear when they imagine what this woman went through, so they respond with hostility. You don't have to be a psych major to understand that.
Where is this womans HUSBAND or HUSBANDS to all 3 of her children. Is it not their responsibilities to provide for THEIR CHILDREN as opposed to the governments!!!
@bornagain001 Well then maybe instead of getting mad at Planned Parenthood you should get mad at those missing husbands.
I have no stance on abortion because I see it as a sympton to a greater problem, our inability to prevent injustice because of ignorance/fear. Our world has changed, and we need to speak frankly and openly about sex, relationships, and lack of health care. Theoretically, Planned Parenthood could end the need for abortion if people were willing to work with it.
@OriginMSD ...Those missing husbands will be held accountable for their actions on Judgment Day, Planned Parenthood will not. YOU have no stance on abortion because God is missing from your life. If there is no God, all things are permissable. Planned Parenthood is merely a man made organization that allows people to contiune IN THEIR SIN and even goes so far as to EMBRACE that sin. Hopefully it will soon loose every tax dollar and will have to survive on donations from supporters like yourself
@bornagain001 Rape should not be permissible, incest should not be permissible. Allowing kids to grow up ignorant puts them in danger and should not be permissible. Selfishness and apathy should not be permissible. In a perfect world, abortion should not exist because none of these things should exist. However, if people waste their time attacking Planned Parenthood instead of turning the mirror on themselves and society, the above offenses to God will continue to exist.
@bornagain001 it's like saying gun control laws will end murder. They may mitigate it, but murder will still exist and anger and hatred will too. The only difference is that Planned Parenthood offers other services as well, including ones that can help prevent the need for abortion. Anyone who takes abortion lightly, even among the pro-choice camp, is sick. Most people who are pro-choice acknowledge the pain, difficulty, and sorrow of abortion. But attacking PP is only a distraction.
@OriginMSD ....they should get out of the ABORTION business completely and only make referrals to doctors who do it. Many will not because of MORAL issues surrounding it.
@bornagain001 Then perhaps you should advocate that, and I'm being serious. I admit, I don't like abortion, and I empathize with the pain of women who feel they must make that choice. But think about what probably drove them there in the first place. Education about sex and relationships is a step in the right direction. I even believe that, if we work together, rape could be eliminated as a major problem this century. Why wait for judgement day when there are people suffering NOW?
@Keitaro2011 ....it's not permissable but God allows it. There are literally 1000's of unsolved murders every year. Guess what. God knows about every one of them and Judgment Day is approaching. Nobody gets away with anything.
@Gabriel5501: But an educational tidbit for you because you're clearly misinformed about what's at stake. Aside from the Pence Amendment, HR1 ZEROES out funding for Title X which supports preventive services like STI testing, birth control, cancer screenings, etc. for young and low-income people and that has NOTHING to do w/ saving lives, in fact, it will just worsen many and take away others. So, health care services across the board are under attack, not just PP.
@Gabriel5501: I won't even engage you on whether you think it's moral for women to decide what's best for their families. In part b/c of everything Rep. Moore said. There's little consideration for quality of life in the anti-choice camp and the first ones to cry for life, are also those who refuse assistance in caring for these children to the people that comply with their wishes. They're also the same ppl who refuse themselves to adopt these children that ultimately languish in foster care.
At issue with the abortion debate is not whether the fetus will die or not. Abortion will not end if it's illegal. The fetus will die regardless.
The issue is whether poor women will be able to get safe abortions. Women with money will always get safe abortions, but poor women will have to go to criminals and untrained people in unsafe conditions. Wards will have to be opened again for the maimed suffering and dying women.
PP is about family planning. It should be funded, for the society.
@splashy9 This is poor reasoning to say that people refuse to plan so either way the fetus will die. The fetus doesn't have to die if people would stop being irresponsible. If women chose to plan then there would be no fetus to kill. Even if people can't afford most forms of birth control, there are other forms of birth control that don't cost a dime (including abstinence)
When will people acknowledge that Planned Parenthood is a RACIST organization that was created to carry out GENOCIDE against Minorities, especially Blacks. Black women are 5x more likely to have an abortion because they are disproportionately targeted by these abortion mills.
It's RACIST. Look it up. Research Margaret Sanger. Research where they set up shop today. Still in minority neighborhoods. Even if you are pro-choice, if you do not realize how RACIST Planned Parenthood is, you are blind
@RizNJ MARGARET SANGER was racist. Those were her beliefs. Planned Parenthood has never been racist. Sanger was racist, but more important than her racism or ableism was her conviction that the mother should have the final decision. Planned Parenthood sets up in minority neighborhoods because those tend to be where their health care services (aka, services that keep people healthy) are needed most.
@Spivey2036 -- I challenge you to watch the MAAFA 21 video right here on youtube for free and then tell me PLANNED PARENTHOOD the organization is not racist.
Just search "MAAFA abortion" and you will find it. It's as detailed a documentary as you can get.
@cirrob we need to kill them to prevent them from having to suffer through eating Ramen at the end of the month, and having small birthday cakes...apparently...
@Gabriel5501 No, restrictions or banning against unplanned pregnancies help aide the constant cycle of poverty. When a child isn't able to recieve fresh fruits, vegetables & hot meals every day they'll be MALNOURISHED. They can't grow up healty on just ramen, mayonnaise sandwiches etc. She is also speaking of the shame and ridicule women on government assistance endure. Unfortunately your to fucking dumb to understand that simple minded ass. SMDH
@chakazulu87 First, it's "too...dumb", not "to...dumb". Second, with the release of the EBT card, the only person who even knows that a woman (or anyone for that matter) is on public assistance is the cashier, as far as anyone else knows they are paying with a debit card. (Both my wife and I have worked at a grocery store) So this idea of a man or woman being ridiculed for being on public assistance is nonsense. Finally, killing a child is not better for their health than feeding them Ramen
@Gabriel5501 First of all, it's called a typo now professor answer this. Why are you so concernedabout what another person does to thier body ? Abortion maybe immoral in your opinion but that doesn't mean it should be illegal or restricted. I am fully aware of the cards for food stamps, but Ms.Moore was speaking about "back in the day" with the paper stamps .
@chakazulu87 I am not so concerned about what a woman does with her body, what I am concerned about is what she does with the body of the child inside of her. Because abortion is immoral in my opinion, I have the right to think that it should be illegal, and to do everything I can to make sure it is, and you have the right to do everything you can to make sure it stays legal. That's the joy of America!
Abortion happens regardless. The issue is whether it's safe or not. The fetus will die regardless, so you are actually just sidetracking the discussion talking about it.
@Gabriel5501 The joy of America is that abortion stays legal and that because you think it's immoral, you don't have to get one, but if I need one, I can.
Nope. Planned parenthood is all about abortion. The other services they offer are insignificant in comparison She was talking about how hard it was to take care of her kids, while bemoaning the loss of readily available means to murder babies. The implication is clear. Deal with it.
@Supahrob She was probably focusing more on the loss of contraception to avoid getting pregnant in the first place. That's part of planning parenthood.
@Supahrob Lol??? She's just saying there are times when it make sense to skip on being a parent. Getting pregnant does NOT mean you wish to be a parent! Besides, if she had access to birth control like she is advocating for, she would not have needed to ponder abortion, you fucking twat!
"planned parenthood" is not a synonym for abortion, people. she's talking about comprehensive family planning services, including birth control. hello, even loretta lynn wrote a song about the pill. why is everyone assuming that she is talking about abortion as the solution to poverty? america is full of dumb dumb people.
@hulapineapple the assumption is based on the fact that her entire speech is part of the discussions on a bill which would defund Planned Parenthood, the organization. To the best of my knowledge, no one is talking about defunding all reproductive services providers across the country... And the reason we are calling for the defunding of Planned Parenthood is not because they provide condoms, it's because they are the largest provider or abortions in the US, and we are paying for it...
@hulapineapple I agree. "Republican Americans are dumb, really really dumb. Hide yo' kids, hide yo' wife, cos they just raping errbody out there (and they won't be victims, oh no, they'll be 'accusers')"
"planned parenthood" is not a synonym for abortion, people. she's talking about comprehensive family planning services, including birth control. hello, even loretta lynn wrote a song about the pill. why is everyone assuming that she is talking about abortion as the solution to poverty? america is full of dumb dumb people.
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Instead of talking about killing children maybe spend the money on the cause of unplaned pregnancy. Promote programs like abstinence that tackle the root of the problem.
@cfm1027 Abstinence programs do not work. They just don't. Teens have sex. They need to be educated about safe sex and have places like Planned Parenthood which provides contraction as well as education. She isn't just talking about abortion, Planned Parenthood does so much more than that.
@cfm1027 Abstinence programs have been proven to not work. While I STRONGLY advocate teens waiting to have sex until they're older, not all do, and they need solid information & medical care. PP provides birth control, health education, help with preventing and treating STDs, PAP smears, as well as general health services. PP caught my high cholesterol when even my regular physicians didn't. And only 3% of their services are abortion. And plenty of older, married people have abortions, btw.
OK, so someone please explain to me what funding Planned Parenthood has to do with little kids not being able to afford a birthday cake, and eating Ramen? Is she seriously suggesting that the better alternative to being poor is being killed by your own mother??
@Gabriel5501 She was talking about planned parenthood, not just the organisation, but about contraception and advice on such matters, especially for those who are too close to the poverty line
Yes, abortion may be an option but before you go on about being murdered by you own mother, be aware that miscarriages are far, far more common, even late in pregnancy. God is the world's greatest abortionist, or child murderer if you prefer.
@2ndto john... So if you have no memory, you should be dead? so your saying it's okay to kill people until they are about 4, which is when most people have their first memories... also we should kill people with Alzheimers disease, and people with amnesia because they can't remember, and therefore are not a REAL person??!!
@ilovesheff That's a strawman argument. Birth gives a natural, clean line for personhood. The fact that you are no longer feeding off another human being for your sustenance makes a huge difference. A woman's body isn't free, and it takes a lot to bring a child to term. So yes, she has the right to control her body. Sorry if you don't agree, that's unfortunate as I know you appreciate your autonomy.
How can that poor excuse for a woman stand up there and say in so many pitiful words that it is ok to kill babies ,any baby.My lord has this country gone that far towards HELL for an elected official to stand up before the world a state that it is ok to murder little innocent helpless babies. Idare you congress women to go to one of these butcder shops and witness one of tese late term killings because if you dont beleive that these are human babies then you need some very serious help .
@wilson200949 Late term abortions are extremely rare! Even getting a second term abortion isn't easy. A friend had a late term abortion after a stillbirth and a miscarriage (i.e. baby was desperately wanted) because the baby was developing without a brain. These aren't things people take lightly. And you really are missing the point of Rep. Moore asking for better health services for women.
@wilson200949 She's not advocating for abortion, she's advocating for contraception so that women can plan when they get pregnant, so that they don't ever have to consider an abortion. P
PS, late term abortions are illegal now, so you'd have to go to a back alley somewhere to find one.
What she is saying makes absolutely no sense... she keeps saying that without planned parenthood, this is what happens... but all of these people she speaks of have had access to planned parenthood, because it is, and has been around for 95 years! Also, living in poverty isn't a reason for death... Many scholars and great people of our nation come from poverty... if we had just killed them because they were poor, then our country would be a lot worse off than it already is!
SO what we are saying that it is ok for us to kill babies so that we don't have to subject them to poverty. She says that this is healthy for woman, and for children, how may I ask is it healthier to be killed then to live in poverty. Woman who have abortions do suffer for years to come from depression, and regret. Unless of course you are talking about those who carelessly have sex with who ever they please, and then kill the child because they could not plan ahead.
SO what we are saying that it is ok for us to kill babies so that we don't have to subject them to poverty. SHe says that this is healthy for woman, and for children, how may I ask is it healthier to be killed then to live in poverty. Woman who have abortions do suffer for years to come from depression, and regret. Unless of course you are talking about those who carelessly have sex with who ever they please, and then kill the child because they could not plan ahead.
@Gabriel5501 Except it's not a child until it's born. Fetuses have no memory, or are aware they exist. It's hard to miss life when you've never experienced it!
@2ndtoJohn well that's a very ignorant statement...what about 10 seconds before it's born? Is it not a child then? How about 10 seconds after it's born? How about 10 days? If I remember correctly research shows that children do not have self awareness until about 3 months old. Why do we "force" parents to keep children after they are born? How about we let parents have a couple of months to try out the children and then they can have them killed if it doesn't work out
@Gabriel5501 Lol, strawman argument. Everyone knows that "10 sec before birth" (whatever that means) is a viable time and when they emerge they will have a functioning body and mind. Besides, who waits 9 months to get an abortion? No one, that's who. We make parents keept children after they're born because now they have accepted the contract of parenthood. If you get pregnant, it does NOT mean you want to be a parent. But if you have a child, it means you've accepted that.
@2ndtoJohn With all due respect, a number of things that you have said in your two comments to me are not true. First, plenty of women have waited to have abortions until the baby was viable, that is, until partial birth abortion was banned in 2003. As of 2000, there were a recorded 2200 partial birth abortions (where the [usually] viable baby is partially born, and the killed) per year.
@2ndtoJohn Second, my comment about a baby being viable "10 seconds before birth" was to demonstrate that it is nearly impossible to set a specific date or week that a baby becomes viable. (E.g. not viable at 23 weeks 1 day, but viable at 23 weeks 2 days, etc) I used to work with a girl who was born shy of 5 months. Now granted, she spent a good deal of time in the NICU, but she is just as healthy and alive now as anyone else.
@2ndtoJohn On one hand evolutionists tell us that life began with one cell in a pond of amino acids, on the other pro-abortionists (some, the very same evolutionists) tell us that life does not begin until "viability". This is quite a contradiction, don't you think?
@2ndtoJohn So at what point does a child go from "fetus" to baby? Is it only when it is "viable" outside of the mother? What is viability? Is viability the ability to breathe on ones own? Does that mean we should have the right to kill any elderly that are on a ventilator, or how about Christopher Reeves? Does it mean the ability to be self aware, do we have the right to kill those that are mentally handicap to such a degree that they are not self aware?
@Gabriel5501 Yes, it is only at viability. Viability means when the fetus can live outside of the woman. And yes, I support euthanasia (with consent, obviously) but that's a different argument altogether. Stop with the strawman arguments. And there is no such thing as having a mental handicap and not being self-aware. Self-awareness is relatively easy as far as being a human is.
@2ndtoJohn Finally, you keep throwing out that I am creating "strawman arguments" but you support you arguments with flawed information. According to Gordon Gallup (using his mirror test to verify self-awareness) he determined that up to 30% of autistic children, as well as some schizophrenics and those with advanced Alzheimers have no self awareness...I guess that's a lot of people we can get rid of...
@Gabriel5501 Ok, I'm going to sum up my view on abortion in the simplest terms possible. If it is inside the woman's body (HER OWN BODY, THAT SHE HAS A RIGHT TO CONTROL) it can be aborted, with or without cause because it doesn't receive precedence to the woman. Nothing else matters, at all. To say the opposite, is not only ridiculous but problematic as you are CONTROLLING SOMEONE'S BODY. Tell a man he isn't allowed to masturbate and see how well that goes.
@2ndtoJohn I have no problem with a woman having control over her own body, in fact I strongly support educating women on how to control themselves, to prevent becoming pregnant. While I realize that some pregnancies are the result of forced intercourse, according to a 2004 survey, the percent of women who had an abortion because of rape/incest was less that 1 1/2%. And, while 73% of respondents said they had an abortion because they could not afford a child, only 8% were on public assistance
@mboc10 Exactly. And if I was never born, I could not care. The fact that I was born makes all the difference. Think about it this way: People only worry about dying, when they're alive.
@2ndtoJohn Of course we know fetuses don't have a memory, but that is not the point whether you remember or not about being a fetus, we all were a fetus. The point is it is a life! If we don't respect the moment that life starts and what it take to be born,then what kind of people are we?
"People only worry about dying, when they're alive" - even more of a reason to appreciate life! We all know we are going to die, that's life, but it is a more natural death then being sucked out or torn.
@2ndtoJohn "The fact that I was born makes all the difference" Yes it does because not only you get to experience life but your family and everyone that gets to appreciate what you bring. No one else can be "2ndtoJohn (I don't know your real name, I'll just use this)" but you.
@Gabriel5501 I know plenty of women who have had abortions and not experienced regret or depression. And no, they weren't sluts who were too stupid to "plan ahead" -- what name would you have for men who don't use a condom? Birth control fails sometimes. Besides, Rep. Moore is saying that a lack of access to health education and reproductive services are part of what keeps women in poverty, which has been proven a pattern all over the world, actually.
I’m sorry that you have to cry about how your money is spent. When you are agonizing over your property and income taxes some people don’t have property and can’t get a job. Realize that they probably didn’t choose to live off of your dime, and if given the choice, they would choose to pay their taxes and be a good citizen. People depend on the government when they don’t have ANY THING. Go cry about your money.
If you are so concerned that somone is getting a "free ride" off of your tax dollars, wouldn’t it make sense to ensure that a woman WON’T get pregnant and have that she can’t afford? When that child that you saved requires medical attention that their mother won’t have the money to pay for the don’t get to go to the doctor or hospital until they are really sick. Instead of paying for that woman to use a condom, tax payers are stuck with the medical bills. I’d rather give out condoms.
@missmonica0876 - PP is a NONprofit corporation, it isn't the only group that receives Title X money, and the funds under consideration cover contraception, not abortion services (it's fully prohibited to use them for that, and it has been since the 70s). Every dollar that gets spent on family planning saves more than $3 later on in public funds - we can't afford to *cut* programs like these, given our current economic climate.
Rep. Moore is an amazing woman, and an amazing representative. I only wish that we had more politicians like her down here in Florida. Defunding contraception will never make sense, but it is insultingly absurd when the reality of UNplanned parenthood is poverty, malnutrition and deprivation.
If social conservatives are truly so concerned about the lives of children who haven't even been conceived yet, it would make a lot more sense for them to care for the kids who are already here.
They're defunding planned parenthood because of the crimes and cover up associated with that Government weed of an organization. If it can't survive on it's own revenue, no one needs their services, we shouldn't keep funding it. No business is kept running if it isn't needed and no one needs/uses their services. If you don't give abortions for free, people won't get them. If they have to pay for their own, perhaps they'll keep their legs closed more often.
@missmonica0876 Good lord woman, you are so incorrect it isn't even funny. NO, there is a LAW intact that prohibits the use of taxpayer's money to pay for abortions. They receive money from private donors. And no, abortion isn't a form of birth control. No woman walks in there jolly as eff that they need to have an abortion. Going in there isn't a sport for them that they do when they're careless. And it isn't only for young girls who "can't keep their legs closed". Many woman who already have
@lllaauraaa It sure does... Tax payer 53 million per year. IF this weren't the truth, why do we have millions of babies dead since 1973, Invasive Operations are not FREE. We're paying for them. Why are they cutting funding if there wasn't that kind of money being spent on Planned Parenthood? What other FOR PROFIT companies do you know, get Government funding? Answer, NONE.
@missmonica0876 children also go in to get inexpensive abortions. They do it because having a child isn't a frivolous thing. It's something that takes dedication and time and money, and some people don't have it. You are focusing on the abortion. that isn't all that they do there. and ANYWAYS, if it was, IT'S NOT UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHAT RIGHTS TO TAKE AWAY. A fetus is not autonomous, so therefore it has no rights. The woman who is incubating the fetus however, does. And if she doesn't want to
@lllaauraaa It's the People's choice of what we want our Tax dollars spent on, and the people have spoken. The majority doesn't think Tax money should be spent frivolous on Abortion 53 million every year (which numbers have only increased over 53 million abortions since 1973) not including the Money we give FOREIGN countries so they can abort their babies too. We can afford it anymore, plain and simple. Our Budgets are not balanced and Our Economy is in the crapper.
Margaret Sanger Founder of Planned Parenthood in her own words: On the extermination of blacks: "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." purpose of racial "purification:"couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization." Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech.
Since when is anyone deserving of anything free in life. You have to pay for what you want. If someone makes a choice, it's their choice. It's not their money they're SPENDING to do what they want (abortion), It's the TAX payer dollars. It's one thing to do what you like with your own money, is a whole other ballgame when you do what you like with other people's money, regardless if they object or not.
@missmonica0876 PS, TAX MONEY DOES NOT GO TOWARDS ABORTIONS THERE IS ALREADY AN ACT THAT ASSURES THAT. EDUCATE YOURSELF. Planned Parenthood gets money for funding abortions by PRIVATE donors. They only use tax money for birth control, AIDS tests, and a bunch of other medical services. Abortions make up 2% of Planned Parenthood operations. GTFO
@lllaauraaa private donors aka the Tax Payers. They get 350 Billion Every Year, it's in the news, Read the front pages today, the House has voted to Defund Planned parenthood AND it passed!
that's not private funding, that's your hard earned money used for women to kill their babies because they choose to use Abortion as a method of birth control.
planned parenthood is fucking up the prison population...poor single mothers+no health care+cheap unhealthy food+ house hopping school hopping+ little chance at a college education = nearly bound for prison labour planned parenthood fucks that up...
@BBTOQA Planned parenthood offers other services than abortions. Abortions make up 2% of all of their services. They are a cheap, affordable form of health care for underprivileged Americans who can not afford anything else.
I'm old school because I feel that if u can't cloth, feed, house or provide healthcare for your children without forcing tax payers to pay for it then u should close your legs & get off your back. And if your not educated or responsable enough for your own procreation I see no reason to believe your educated or responsable enough to raise children, surely its cheaper to give everyone free birthcontrol then healthcare, foodstamps, welfare, & housing for 18 yrs. I don't care just don't make me pay
@AwohaliSagwu Oh, and now that she's making $174,000 a year I'd like to know just how much has she paid back to the tax payers for all those years of supporting her and her kids. I don't care where shes came from or where she is now she has the mentality that it's ok to take money from hard working people for nothing, as long as she gets her "something for nothing" thats all that matters. My life might be alot easier too if I'm had alot of kids and forced hardworking ppl to foot the bill for it.
So Tell me, who is at Fault for her "unplanned pregnancy"? How is an emergency vehicle there at her moment of need a waste of money? She obviously doesn't value her own Life let alone anyone else's. She's not FIT to dictate who's life is worth keeping. That's the problem with these liberals, they deem themselves God and tell people what they Should and Shouldn't be doing with their lives, then ORDER us to PAY for their "choices" Pay for your own Choices!
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So Tell me, who is at Fault for her "unplanned pregnancy"? How is an emergency vehicle there at her moment of need a waste of money? She obviously doesn't value her own Life let alone anyone else's. She's not FIT to dictate who's life is worth keeping. That's the problem with these liberals, they deem themselves God and tell people what they Should and Shouldn't be doing with their lives and then ORDER us to PAY for their "choices", TOUGH pay for your own Choices!
@iheartfluffymuffins I Think you should reacquaint yourself with what Planned Parenthood's majority business is. It ain't condoms and birth control pills. Again I agree with the mission. But truth is the truth.
While I agree totally with the Congress woman. She is a walking living argument against what she is arguing against. Would it have been better if she killed her 1st baby? She seems to have done well for herself?
Again,I agree wholeheartedly with government funded abortion. But,is she not a walking contradiction to her beliefs?
At least she making an honest argument that it's better to kill a kid rather than have it grow up in poverty( I agree) instead of a bunch "laws off of my body" rhetoric.
@scottyalto I dont think shes talking about killing her child so much as having one when she was ready ( in other words had she been given adequate access to contraceptives,the kind planned parenthood provides she would have been able to have that child later in life when she was better able to care for him.)
@TrooperCX Precisely! Once these Christian morons actively work to save LIVE children from death through crime, malnutrition and the other ravages of poverty, they'll merit their highfalutin Pro-Life moniker. Of course it's far easier to weep and work for blobs of uterine tissue than it is to care and fund actual children. Christians are SUCH hypocritical scum!!!
@missmonica0876 How about you test out that theory first for us. Save the rest of the supportive viewers from having to hear your racist, partisan drivel. You know nothing about the plight of this CONGRESSWOMAN nor any women in America who were once or currently are in the position she herself was. Go back to living in your hole and embarrassing the rest of this country who wants to move forward and help others in society. You're a regressive piece of shit. :)
@frauleinvero Planned parenthood was started by a Racist and she's Cackling from the grave. Her whole aim for birth control and planned parenthood was population control of those she deemed unfit, feeble minded and were Minorities, black, Hispanic,etc. It's not a coincidence that planned parenthood are located in Minority neighborhoods. The truth about Margaret Sanger is out there...too many aborted.com and do check out this link. Educate!
@missmonica0876 Thank you for sharing the history of Planned Parenthood. EVEN THOUGH it started out that way, I can assure you that it is not some racist organization to get rid of all the blacks and Hispanics in the world. It ISN'T a coincidence that they're located in minority neighborhoods. Minorities are the groups that have the higher rate of abortions because of LACK of affordable birth control. Get out of here with your anti-choice propaganda.
@scottyalto She became a congresswoman IN SPITE OF her obstacles. How many black congresswomen from those kinds of backgrounds do you see today?
Also, the government does not in any way fund abortion. The Pence Amendment is to remove the family planning and womens healthcare funding PP receives, which pays for health screenings, STI and other disease testing and treatment, birth control (which prevents ovulation and attachment of fertilized ovum to the uterine wall), and sex education.
This is what happens when welfare recipients and social parasites become politicians. They've never done anything with their lives except spend other people's money. Therefore they will campaign to spend more and more of other people's money. Notice this black bitch has never earned anything on her own, she's spent her whole life living off the labor of others.
So, let me see if I get this: In the USA, some believe that abortion is murder. To prove that point, they restrict access to sex education and contraception, two things that definitely decreases demand for abortions. Then, once that impoverished and uneducated woman has that baby, a supposed victory for the pro-life cause, they do as little as humanly possible to assist her in raising, feeding, and educating that baby.
@thehobbitwaffle seriously, you hit the nail on the head. All these people are pro-life but they don't adopt. "Don't kill your babies but don't ask me for help, and FUCK socialism"..... what horrible people
You really have no idea what conservatives think do you. I have yet to meet a conservative that was not for sex education. Of course everyone is pro contraception. The main difference is you think our educators should be handing out condoms when kids come into middle and high school.
Do nothing to raise, feed and educate? Are you kidding me? What do you call welfare, food stamps, and public education? Many other gvt programs exist that are paid by all tax payers.
Wow, this woman is beyond nuts, pregnancy destroys families? this woman had children out of wed lock, and the fault is hers and the baby daddy, what a bunch of crap.
shekaty 1 week ago
How healthy was Planned Parenthood for the children they aborted?
So… your solution to your kids' poverty was to kill them in the womb?
pablop1992 2 weeks ago
yeah well, tha Mayans killed their children too, sacraficed them to their gods. well, they arent around anymore, so killing the next generation isnt really a good idea, all the rest of us will get old and die off.the family ie a mother and father and kids together is the only family unit that will succeed, not a mom with 4 or 5 kids all by herself. men step up! actually be MEN
rgb0841 2 weeks ago
Strong words! Planned Parenthood provides just that, the ability for all women to be able to plan when they should be parents!
WhiteMagnolia89 2 weeks ago
Give your kids some fresh fruit you cheap sob. And if your kids get abused thats the white people fault too. Its so pathetic. Stares with you? man thats so iggi.
carlgottstein 3 weeks ago
No Phone and no dime but you had the stupidity to get pregnant.
carlgottstein 3 weeks ago
How about you do not have sex with every fool who offers you his junk? How about your role in YOUR life? What a bunch of loser mentality garbage. Folks need to stop making excuses and passing the blame. You want a life? Start by not getting pregnant at 18, fool. Plan on not killing any babies.
carlgottstein 3 weeks ago
Wow. really? You went with the mayonnaise sandwiches? Maybe America is just to tough for ya all? Its a competitive society. Common sense and personal responsibility are required to survive and thrive in America. You don't seem to have the instincts to succeed. The women are alone? You say it like its someone else s fault. What about the random hook up the women CHOSE to Mate with who is not being a man?
carlgottstein 3 weeks ago
She is the evidence of a systematic failure of public education where the ability to logically reason is no longer taught. Applying this woman's failed "logic" to the Continent of Africa would result in the non existence of most people there.
talonspoint 3 weeks ago
Can't afford kids? Don't fucking have them! Seriously! Learn some responsibility!
ByWordsAlone 3 weeks ago
Of course it's logical that we should force ppl with strong religious conviction to fund abortion clinics...ones that made a profit last year, by the way...and ones that contribute large amounts of money to democrats. Moore isn't asking for better health care, she's asking everyone to pay for ppl too dumb or lazy to use birth control...more liberal belief in entitlement to other ppls money for their problems. She is a disgusting individual but I hope she's glad she wasn't aborted herself.
hitcharide1 3 weeks ago
Well, some people claim they can remember things when they were in the womb. I can't remember things from when I was a non-sapient newborn, but I'm glad I wasn't killed. Have to wonder why people okay with killing fetuses get so outraged when someone throws their unwanted neonate in the dumpster. Seems odd to me.
Fleefles 8 months ago
People recoil in fear when they imagine what this woman went through, so they respond with hostility. You don't have to be a psych major to understand that.
squamish4244 10 months ago 3
And abortion is murder. All the time, everytime. There are no exceptions.
Supahrob 11 months ago
I don't think anyone's buying the contraception argument ...and NOT getting pregnant is incredibly simple anyway.
Supahrob 11 months ago
Where is this womans HUSBAND or HUSBANDS to all 3 of her children. Is it not their responsibilities to provide for THEIR CHILDREN as opposed to the governments!!!
bornagain001 11 months ago
@bornagain001 Well then maybe instead of getting mad at Planned Parenthood you should get mad at those missing husbands.
I have no stance on abortion because I see it as a sympton to a greater problem, our inability to prevent injustice because of ignorance/fear. Our world has changed, and we need to speak frankly and openly about sex, relationships, and lack of health care. Theoretically, Planned Parenthood could end the need for abortion if people were willing to work with it.
OriginMSD 11 months ago
@OriginMSD ...Those missing husbands will be held accountable for their actions on Judgment Day, Planned Parenthood will not. YOU have no stance on abortion because God is missing from your life. If there is no God, all things are permissable. Planned Parenthood is merely a man made organization that allows people to contiune IN THEIR SIN and even goes so far as to EMBRACE that sin. Hopefully it will soon loose every tax dollar and will have to survive on donations from supporters like yourself
bornagain001 11 months ago
@bornagain001 Rape should not be permissible, incest should not be permissible. Allowing kids to grow up ignorant puts them in danger and should not be permissible. Selfishness and apathy should not be permissible. In a perfect world, abortion should not exist because none of these things should exist. However, if people waste their time attacking Planned Parenthood instead of turning the mirror on themselves and society, the above offenses to God will continue to exist.
OriginMSD 11 months ago
@bornagain001 it's like saying gun control laws will end murder. They may mitigate it, but murder will still exist and anger and hatred will too. The only difference is that Planned Parenthood offers other services as well, including ones that can help prevent the need for abortion. Anyone who takes abortion lightly, even among the pro-choice camp, is sick. Most people who are pro-choice acknowledge the pain, difficulty, and sorrow of abortion. But attacking PP is only a distraction.
OriginMSD 11 months ago
@OriginMSD ....they should get out of the ABORTION business completely and only make referrals to doctors who do it. Many will not because of MORAL issues surrounding it.
bornagain001 11 months ago
@bornagain001 Then perhaps you should advocate that, and I'm being serious. I admit, I don't like abortion, and I empathize with the pain of women who feel they must make that choice. But think about what probably drove them there in the first place. Education about sex and relationships is a step in the right direction. I even believe that, if we work together, rape could be eliminated as a major problem this century. Why wait for judgement day when there are people suffering NOW?
OriginMSD 11 months ago
@bornagain001 I don't recall murder being permissable. Maybe it's because God has nothing to do with morals?
Keitaro2011 11 months ago
@Keitaro2011 ....it's not permissable but God allows it. There are literally 1000's of unsolved murders every year. Guess what. God knows about every one of them and Judgment Day is approaching. Nobody gets away with anything.
bornagain001 11 months ago
@bornagain001 Reality disagrees with you.
Keitaro2011 11 months ago
Planned Parenthood prevents the need for abortion to a greater extent than they provide abortions.
Anti- abortionists are NOT 'pro-life' (and should never be called such) it is the 'pro choice' people who are PRO-LIFE!
felixomai 1 year ago
@felixomai ...Planned Parenthood clinics in 2009 performed 332,278 abortions – up from 324,008 in 2008, or a 2.5 percent increase.
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Planned Parenthood prevents the need for abortion to a greater extent than they provide abortions.
Anti- abortionists are NOT 'pro-life' (and should never be called such) it is the 'pro choice' people who are PRO-LIFE!
felixomai 1 year ago
Planned Parenthood prevents the need for abortion to a greater extent than they provide abortions.
Anti- abortionists are NOT 'pro-life' (and should never be called such) it is the 'pro choice' people who are PRO-LIFE!
felixomai 1 year ago
the 12 dislikes are probably entitled, middle-class white men.
rockxaction 1 year ago 2
@rockxaction I object, you know, as an entitled middle-class white male. But you're probably right.
BoofieMcDoodoo 11 months ago
@Gabriel5501: But an educational tidbit for you because you're clearly misinformed about what's at stake. Aside from the Pence Amendment, HR1 ZEROES out funding for Title X which supports preventive services like STI testing, birth control, cancer screenings, etc. for young and low-income people and that has NOTHING to do w/ saving lives, in fact, it will just worsen many and take away others. So, health care services across the board are under attack, not just PP.
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@Gabriel5501: I won't even engage you on whether you think it's moral for women to decide what's best for their families. In part b/c of everything Rep. Moore said. There's little consideration for quality of life in the anti-choice camp and the first ones to cry for life, are also those who refuse assistance in caring for these children to the people that comply with their wishes. They're also the same ppl who refuse themselves to adopt these children that ultimately languish in foster care.
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At issue with the abortion debate is not whether the fetus will die or not. Abortion will not end if it's illegal. The fetus will die regardless.
The issue is whether poor women will be able to get safe abortions. Women with money will always get safe abortions, but poor women will have to go to criminals and untrained people in unsafe conditions. Wards will have to be opened again for the maimed suffering and dying women.
PP is about family planning. It should be funded, for the society.
splashy9 1 year ago
@splashy9 This is poor reasoning to say that people refuse to plan so either way the fetus will die. The fetus doesn't have to die if people would stop being irresponsible. If women chose to plan then there would be no fetus to kill. Even if people can't afford most forms of birth control, there are other forms of birth control that don't cost a dime (including abstinence)
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
When will people acknowledge that Planned Parenthood is a RACIST organization that was created to carry out GENOCIDE against Minorities, especially Blacks. Black women are 5x more likely to have an abortion because they are disproportionately targeted by these abortion mills.
It's RACIST. Look it up. Research Margaret Sanger. Research where they set up shop today. Still in minority neighborhoods. Even if you are pro-choice, if you do not realize how RACIST Planned Parenthood is, you are blind
RizNJ 1 year ago
@RizNJ MARGARET SANGER was racist. Those were her beliefs. Planned Parenthood has never been racist. Sanger was racist, but more important than her racism or ableism was her conviction that the mother should have the final decision. Planned Parenthood sets up in minority neighborhoods because those tend to be where their health care services (aka, services that keep people healthy) are needed most.
Spivey2036 11 months ago
@Spivey2036 -- I challenge you to watch the MAAFA 21 video right here on youtube for free and then tell me PLANNED PARENTHOOD the organization is not racist.
Just search "MAAFA abortion" and you will find it. It's as detailed a documentary as you can get.
RizNJ 11 months ago
Guns kill more people than abortions but no one would dare make restrictions on those.
chakazulu87 1 year ago
How is killing babies healthy for children? It seems like its the opposite of healthy
cirrob 1 year ago
@cirrob we need to kill them to prevent them from having to suffer through eating Ramen at the end of the month, and having small birthday cakes...apparently...
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@Gabriel5501 No, restrictions or banning against unplanned pregnancies help aide the constant cycle of poverty. When a child isn't able to recieve fresh fruits, vegetables & hot meals every day they'll be MALNOURISHED. They can't grow up healty on just ramen, mayonnaise sandwiches etc. She is also speaking of the shame and ridicule women on government assistance endure. Unfortunately your to fucking dumb to understand that simple minded ass. SMDH
chakazulu87 1 year ago
@chakazulu87 First, it's "too...dumb", not "to...dumb". Second, with the release of the EBT card, the only person who even knows that a woman (or anyone for that matter) is on public assistance is the cashier, as far as anyone else knows they are paying with a debit card. (Both my wife and I have worked at a grocery store) So this idea of a man or woman being ridiculed for being on public assistance is nonsense. Finally, killing a child is not better for their health than feeding them Ramen
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@Gabriel5501 First of all, it's called a typo now professor answer this. Why are you so concernedabout what another person does to thier body ? Abortion maybe immoral in your opinion but that doesn't mean it should be illegal or restricted. I am fully aware of the cards for food stamps, but Ms.Moore was speaking about "back in the day" with the paper stamps .
chakazulu87 1 year ago 2
@chakazulu87 I am not so concerned about what a woman does with her body, what I am concerned about is what she does with the body of the child inside of her. Because abortion is immoral in my opinion, I have the right to think that it should be illegal, and to do everything I can to make sure it is, and you have the right to do everything you can to make sure it stays legal. That's the joy of America!
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@Gabriel5501
Abortion happens regardless. The issue is whether it's safe or not. The fetus will die regardless, so you are actually just sidetracking the discussion talking about it.
splashy9 1 year ago
@Gabriel5501 The joy of America is that abortion stays legal and that because you think it's immoral, you don't have to get one, but if I need one, I can.
Spivey2036 11 months ago
Nope. Planned parenthood is all about abortion. The other services they offer are insignificant in comparison She was talking about how hard it was to take care of her kids, while bemoaning the loss of readily available means to murder babies. The implication is clear. Deal with it.
Supahrob 1 year ago
@Supahrob She was probably focusing more on the loss of contraception to avoid getting pregnant in the first place. That's part of planning parenthood.
Spivey2036 11 months ago
Some dems have been really bringing it these past few weeks.
LordLegless 1 year ago 3
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What a horrible woman. Guess she wishes her kids would have been murdered
Supahrob 1 year ago
@Supahrob Wait, she wishes she'd had access to birth control, so you think she wishes her kids could be murdered? That's just bizarre.
Tracymmo 1 year ago
@Supahrob Lol??? She's just saying there are times when it make sense to skip on being a parent. Getting pregnant does NOT mean you wish to be a parent! Besides, if she had access to birth control like she is advocating for, she would not have needed to ponder abortion, you fucking twat!
2ndtoJohn 1 year ago
The solution is simple. Use a condom and get an education.
violentbyforce 1 year ago
@violentbyforce Which Planned Parenthood helps to accomplish...
2ndtoJohn 1 year ago
"planned parenthood" is not a synonym for abortion, people. she's talking about comprehensive family planning services, including birth control. hello, even loretta lynn wrote a song about the pill. why is everyone assuming that she is talking about abortion as the solution to poverty? america is full of dumb dumb people.
hulapineapple 1 year ago 38
@hulapineapple Exactly,and we wonder why the rest of the world hates us.
chakazulu87 1 year ago
@hulapineapple the assumption is based on the fact that her entire speech is part of the discussions on a bill which would defund Planned Parenthood, the organization. To the best of my knowledge, no one is talking about defunding all reproductive services providers across the country... And the reason we are calling for the defunding of Planned Parenthood is not because they provide condoms, it's because they are the largest provider or abortions in the US, and we are paying for it...
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@hulapineapple I agree. "Republican Americans are dumb, really really dumb. Hide yo' kids, hide yo' wife, cos they just raping errbody out there (and they won't be victims, oh no, they'll be 'accusers')"
earthborne 1 year ago
"planned parenthood" is not a synonym for abortion, people. she's talking about comprehensive family planning services, including birth control. hello, even loretta lynn wrote a song about the pill. why is everyone assuming that she is talking about abortion as the solution to poverty? america is full of dumb dumb people.
hulapineapple 1 year ago 5
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Instead of talking about killing children maybe spend the money on the cause of unplaned pregnancy. Promote programs like abstinence that tackle the root of the problem.
cfm1027 1 year ago
@cfm1027 Abstinence programs do not work. They just don't. Teens have sex. They need to be educated about safe sex and have places like Planned Parenthood which provides contraction as well as education. She isn't just talking about abortion, Planned Parenthood does so much more than that.
SazzyIsSnazzy 1 year ago 27
@SazzyIsSnazzy *contraception.
SazzyIsSnazzy 1 year ago
@cfm1027 Abstinence programs have been proven to not work. While I STRONGLY advocate teens waiting to have sex until they're older, not all do, and they need solid information & medical care. PP provides birth control, health education, help with preventing and treating STDs, PAP smears, as well as general health services. PP caught my high cholesterol when even my regular physicians didn't. And only 3% of their services are abortion. And plenty of older, married people have abortions, btw.
Tracymmo 1 year ago 2
i refer you to a great song and video by Nick Cannon...
murphy1234ful 1 year ago
OK, so someone please explain to me what funding Planned Parenthood has to do with little kids not being able to afford a birthday cake, and eating Ramen? Is she seriously suggesting that the better alternative to being poor is being killed by your own mother??
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@Gabriel5501 She was talking about planned parenthood, not just the organisation, but about contraception and advice on such matters, especially for those who are too close to the poverty line
Yes, abortion may be an option but before you go on about being murdered by you own mother, be aware that miscarriages are far, far more common, even late in pregnancy. God is the world's greatest abortionist, or child murderer if you prefer.
acutube51 1 year ago
@2ndto john... So if you have no memory, you should be dead? so your saying it's okay to kill people until they are about 4, which is when most people have their first memories... also we should kill people with Alzheimers disease, and people with amnesia because they can't remember, and therefore are not a REAL person??!!
ilovesheff 1 year ago
@ilovesheff That's a strawman argument. Birth gives a natural, clean line for personhood. The fact that you are no longer feeding off another human being for your sustenance makes a huge difference. A woman's body isn't free, and it takes a lot to bring a child to term. So yes, she has the right to control her body. Sorry if you don't agree, that's unfortunate as I know you appreciate your autonomy.
2ndtoJohn 1 year ago
How can that poor excuse for a woman stand up there and say in so many pitiful words that it is ok to kill babies ,any baby.My lord has this country gone that far towards HELL for an elected official to stand up before the world a state that it is ok to murder little innocent helpless babies. Idare you congress women to go to one of these butcder shops and witness one of tese late term killings because if you dont beleive that these are human babies then you need some very serious help .
wilson200949 1 year ago
@wilson200949 Late term abortions are extremely rare! Even getting a second term abortion isn't easy. A friend had a late term abortion after a stillbirth and a miscarriage (i.e. baby was desperately wanted) because the baby was developing without a brain. These aren't things people take lightly. And you really are missing the point of Rep. Moore asking for better health services for women.
Tracymmo 1 year ago 3
@wilson200949 She's not advocating for abortion, she's advocating for contraception so that women can plan when they get pregnant, so that they don't ever have to consider an abortion. P
PS, late term abortions are illegal now, so you'd have to go to a back alley somewhere to find one.
Spivey2036 11 months ago
Also, I grew up in poverty, and I CHOSE to MAKE a better life for myself...
ilovesheff 1 year ago
What she is saying makes absolutely no sense... she keeps saying that without planned parenthood, this is what happens... but all of these people she speaks of have had access to planned parenthood, because it is, and has been around for 95 years! Also, living in poverty isn't a reason for death... Many scholars and great people of our nation come from poverty... if we had just killed them because they were poor, then our country would be a lot worse off than it already is!
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SO what we are saying that it is ok for us to kill babies so that we don't have to subject them to poverty. She says that this is healthy for woman, and for children, how may I ask is it healthier to be killed then to live in poverty. Woman who have abortions do suffer for years to come from depression, and regret. Unless of course you are talking about those who carelessly have sex with who ever they please, and then kill the child because they could not plan ahead.
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
SO what we are saying that it is ok for us to kill babies so that we don't have to subject them to poverty. SHe says that this is healthy for woman, and for children, how may I ask is it healthier to be killed then to live in poverty. Woman who have abortions do suffer for years to come from depression, and regret. Unless of course you are talking about those who carelessly have sex with who ever they please, and then kill the child because they could not plan ahead.
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@Gabriel5501 Except it's not a child until it's born. Fetuses have no memory, or are aware they exist. It's hard to miss life when you've never experienced it!
2ndtoJohn 1 year ago 2
@2ndtoJohn well that's a very ignorant statement...what about 10 seconds before it's born? Is it not a child then? How about 10 seconds after it's born? How about 10 days? If I remember correctly research shows that children do not have self awareness until about 3 months old. Why do we "force" parents to keep children after they are born? How about we let parents have a couple of months to try out the children and then they can have them killed if it doesn't work out
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@Gabriel5501 Lol, strawman argument. Everyone knows that "10 sec before birth" (whatever that means) is a viable time and when they emerge they will have a functioning body and mind. Besides, who waits 9 months to get an abortion? No one, that's who. We make parents keept children after they're born because now they have accepted the contract of parenthood. If you get pregnant, it does NOT mean you want to be a parent. But if you have a child, it means you've accepted that.
2ndtoJohn 1 year ago
@2ndtoJohn With all due respect, a number of things that you have said in your two comments to me are not true. First, plenty of women have waited to have abortions until the baby was viable, that is, until partial birth abortion was banned in 2003. As of 2000, there were a recorded 2200 partial birth abortions (where the [usually] viable baby is partially born, and the killed) per year.
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@2ndtoJohn Second, my comment about a baby being viable "10 seconds before birth" was to demonstrate that it is nearly impossible to set a specific date or week that a baby becomes viable. (E.g. not viable at 23 weeks 1 day, but viable at 23 weeks 2 days, etc) I used to work with a girl who was born shy of 5 months. Now granted, she spent a good deal of time in the NICU, but she is just as healthy and alive now as anyone else.
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@2ndtoJohn On one hand evolutionists tell us that life began with one cell in a pond of amino acids, on the other pro-abortionists (some, the very same evolutionists) tell us that life does not begin until "viability". This is quite a contradiction, don't you think?
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@2ndtoJohn So at what point does a child go from "fetus" to baby? Is it only when it is "viable" outside of the mother? What is viability? Is viability the ability to breathe on ones own? Does that mean we should have the right to kill any elderly that are on a ventilator, or how about Christopher Reeves? Does it mean the ability to be self aware, do we have the right to kill those that are mentally handicap to such a degree that they are not self aware?
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@Gabriel5501 Yes, it is only at viability. Viability means when the fetus can live outside of the woman. And yes, I support euthanasia (with consent, obviously) but that's a different argument altogether. Stop with the strawman arguments. And there is no such thing as having a mental handicap and not being self-aware. Self-awareness is relatively easy as far as being a human is.
2ndtoJohn 1 year ago
@2ndtoJohn Finally, you keep throwing out that I am creating "strawman arguments" but you support you arguments with flawed information. According to Gordon Gallup (using his mirror test to verify self-awareness) he determined that up to 30% of autistic children, as well as some schizophrenics and those with advanced Alzheimers have no self awareness...I guess that's a lot of people we can get rid of...
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@Gabriel5501 Ok, I'm going to sum up my view on abortion in the simplest terms possible. If it is inside the woman's body (HER OWN BODY, THAT SHE HAS A RIGHT TO CONTROL) it can be aborted, with or without cause because it doesn't receive precedence to the woman. Nothing else matters, at all. To say the opposite, is not only ridiculous but problematic as you are CONTROLLING SOMEONE'S BODY. Tell a man he isn't allowed to masturbate and see how well that goes.
2ndtoJohn 1 year ago
@2ndtoJohn I have no problem with a woman having control over her own body, in fact I strongly support educating women on how to control themselves, to prevent becoming pregnant. While I realize that some pregnancies are the result of forced intercourse, according to a 2004 survey, the percent of women who had an abortion because of rape/incest was less that 1 1/2%. And, while 73% of respondents said they had an abortion because they could not afford a child, only 8% were on public assistance
Gabriel5501 1 year ago
@2ndtoJohn - you at one point were a fetus, you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for your mother who let you be born.
mboc10 1 year ago
@mboc10 Exactly. And if I was never born, I could not care. The fact that I was born makes all the difference. Think about it this way: People only worry about dying, when they're alive.
2ndtoJohn 1 year ago
@2ndtoJohn Of course we know fetuses don't have a memory, but that is not the point whether you remember or not about being a fetus, we all were a fetus. The point is it is a life! If we don't respect the moment that life starts and what it take to be born,then what kind of people are we?
"People only worry about dying, when they're alive" - even more of a reason to appreciate life! We all know we are going to die, that's life, but it is a more natural death then being sucked out or torn.
mboc10 11 months ago
@2ndtoJohn "The fact that I was born makes all the difference" Yes it does because not only you get to experience life but your family and everyone that gets to appreciate what you bring. No one else can be "2ndtoJohn (I don't know your real name, I'll just use this)" but you.
mboc10 11 months ago
@Gabriel5501 I know plenty of women who have had abortions and not experienced regret or depression. And no, they weren't sluts who were too stupid to "plan ahead" -- what name would you have for men who don't use a condom? Birth control fails sometimes. Besides, Rep. Moore is saying that a lack of access to health education and reproductive services are part of what keeps women in poverty, which has been proven a pattern all over the world, actually.
Tracymmo 1 year ago 2
I should totally have been aborted...or maybe the good congresswoman only thinks that black babies should be aborted? I'm a bit confused.
katgburke 1 year ago
Keep your legs closed. That´s Planned Parenthood! Is she actually saying that only black women are poor? ´Murder is healthy? ´She´s insane!
cutenu2 1 year ago
@cutenu2 Amen look at the guy in the back ground he is really impressed with her rambling
wilson200949 1 year ago
@cutenu2 Wow, you managed to misconstrue everything she said. But as a virgin, some of this stuff may be new to you, so I'll cut you some slack.
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Keep your legs closed. Planned Parenthood!
cutenu2 1 year ago
I’m sorry that you have to cry about how your money is spent. When you are agonizing over your property and income taxes some people don’t have property and can’t get a job. Realize that they probably didn’t choose to live off of your dime, and if given the choice, they would choose to pay their taxes and be a good citizen. People depend on the government when they don’t have ANY THING. Go cry about your money.
kfuego10 1 year ago 2
If you are so concerned that somone is getting a "free ride" off of your tax dollars, wouldn’t it make sense to ensure that a woman WON’T get pregnant and have that she can’t afford? When that child that you saved requires medical attention that their mother won’t have the money to pay for the don’t get to go to the doctor or hospital until they are really sick. Instead of paying for that woman to use a condom, tax payers are stuck with the medical bills. I’d rather give out condoms.
kfuego10 1 year ago 3
@missmonica0876 - PP is a NONprofit corporation, it isn't the only group that receives Title X money, and the funds under consideration cover contraception, not abortion services (it's fully prohibited to use them for that, and it has been since the 70s). Every dollar that gets spent on family planning saves more than $3 later on in public funds - we can't afford to *cut* programs like these, given our current economic climate.
aliceshipman 1 year ago 3
Rep. Moore is an amazing woman, and an amazing representative. I only wish that we had more politicians like her down here in Florida. Defunding contraception will never make sense, but it is insultingly absurd when the reality of UNplanned parenthood is poverty, malnutrition and deprivation.
If social conservatives are truly so concerned about the lives of children who haven't even been conceived yet, it would make a lot more sense for them to care for the kids who are already here.
aliceshipman 1 year ago 2
Preach it.
Hermione071 1 year ago
They're defunding planned parenthood because of the crimes and cover up associated with that Government weed of an organization. If it can't survive on it's own revenue, no one needs their services, we shouldn't keep funding it. No business is kept running if it isn't needed and no one needs/uses their services. If you don't give abortions for free, people won't get them. If they have to pay for their own, perhaps they'll keep their legs closed more often.
missmonica0876 1 year ago
@missmonica0876 Good lord woman, you are so incorrect it isn't even funny. NO, there is a LAW intact that prohibits the use of taxpayer's money to pay for abortions. They receive money from private donors. And no, abortion isn't a form of birth control. No woman walks in there jolly as eff that they need to have an abortion. Going in there isn't a sport for them that they do when they're careless. And it isn't only for young girls who "can't keep their legs closed". Many woman who already have
lllaauraaa 1 year ago
@lllaauraaa It sure does... Tax payer 53 million per year. IF this weren't the truth, why do we have millions of babies dead since 1973, Invasive Operations are not FREE. We're paying for them. Why are they cutting funding if there wasn't that kind of money being spent on Planned Parenthood? What other FOR PROFIT companies do you know, get Government funding? Answer, NONE.
missmonica0876 1 year ago
@missmonica0876 children also go in to get inexpensive abortions. They do it because having a child isn't a frivolous thing. It's something that takes dedication and time and money, and some people don't have it. You are focusing on the abortion. that isn't all that they do there. and ANYWAYS, if it was, IT'S NOT UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHAT RIGHTS TO TAKE AWAY. A fetus is not autonomous, so therefore it has no rights. The woman who is incubating the fetus however, does. And if she doesn't want to
lllaauraaa 1 year ago
@lllaauraaa It's the People's choice of what we want our Tax dollars spent on, and the people have spoken. The majority doesn't think Tax money should be spent frivolous on Abortion 53 million every year (which numbers have only increased over 53 million abortions since 1973) not including the Money we give FOREIGN countries so they can abort their babies too. We can afford it anymore, plain and simple. Our Budgets are not balanced and Our Economy is in the crapper.
missmonica0876 1 year ago
@missmonica0876 lend her organs to a fetus, then she shouldn't have to. End of story. Good bye.
lllaauraaa 1 year ago
Margaret Sanger Founder of Planned Parenthood in her own words: On the extermination of blacks: "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." purpose of racial "purification:"couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization." Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech.
missmonica0876 1 year ago
look at toomanyaborted com
missmonica0876 1 year ago
Since when is anyone deserving of anything free in life. You have to pay for what you want. If someone makes a choice, it's their choice. It's not their money they're SPENDING to do what they want (abortion), It's the TAX payer dollars. It's one thing to do what you like with your own money, is a whole other ballgame when you do what you like with other people's money, regardless if they object or not.
missmonica0876 1 year ago
@missmonica0876 PS, TAX MONEY DOES NOT GO TOWARDS ABORTIONS THERE IS ALREADY AN ACT THAT ASSURES THAT. EDUCATE YOURSELF. Planned Parenthood gets money for funding abortions by PRIVATE donors. They only use tax money for birth control, AIDS tests, and a bunch of other medical services. Abortions make up 2% of Planned Parenthood operations. GTFO
lllaauraaa 1 year ago
@lllaauraaa private donors aka the Tax Payers. They get 350 Billion Every Year, it's in the news, Read the front pages today, the House has voted to Defund Planned parenthood AND it passed!
that's not private funding, that's your hard earned money used for women to kill their babies because they choose to use Abortion as a method of birth control.
missmonica0876 1 year ago
planned parenthood is fucking up the prison population...poor single mothers+no health care+cheap unhealthy food+ house hopping school hopping+ little chance at a college education = nearly bound for prison labour planned parenthood fucks that up...
allianceFiLifeDotCom 1 year ago
PP is "healthy for women, children and society"?! How healthy is it for the baby that gets chopped up and vacuumed out of it's mommy??
BBTOQA 1 year ago
@BBTOQA Planned parenthood offers other services than abortions. Abortions make up 2% of all of their services. They are a cheap, affordable form of health care for underprivileged Americans who can not afford anything else.
lllaauraaa 1 year ago
@BBTOQA I had no idea that the pap smears I got at PP were actually abortions!
Tracymmo 1 year ago
Pffht are we actually gonna listen to women on what they think about abortion?
That just crazy
WIleyCubScout 1 year ago
I'm old school because I feel that if u can't cloth, feed, house or provide healthcare for your children without forcing tax payers to pay for it then u should close your legs & get off your back. And if your not educated or responsable enough for your own procreation I see no reason to believe your educated or responsable enough to raise children, surely its cheaper to give everyone free birthcontrol then healthcare, foodstamps, welfare, & housing for 18 yrs. I don't care just don't make me pay
AwohaliSagwu 1 year ago
@AwohaliSagwu Oh, and now that she's making $174,000 a year I'd like to know just how much has she paid back to the tax payers for all those years of supporting her and her kids. I don't care where shes came from or where she is now she has the mentality that it's ok to take money from hard working people for nothing, as long as she gets her "something for nothing" thats all that matters. My life might be alot easier too if I'm had alot of kids and forced hardworking ppl to foot the bill for it.
AwohaliSagwu 1 year ago
@AwohaliSagwu
Paid back?? LOL I'm sure she is raping her district blind.
BulldogsRule12 1 year ago
Yet the Army NASCR team funding was given a green light. Go America.
drunkingham138 1 year ago
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So Tell me, who is at Fault for her "unplanned pregnancy"? How is an emergency vehicle there at her moment of need a waste of money? She obviously doesn't value her own Life let alone anyone else's. She's not FIT to dictate who's life is worth keeping. That's the problem with these liberals, they deem themselves God and tell people what they Should and Shouldn't be doing with their lives, then ORDER us to PAY for their "choices" Pay for your own Choices!
HER Choice to was to say YES to sex, FAIL
missmonica0876 1 year ago
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So Tell me, who is at Fault for her "unplanned pregnancy"? How is an emergency vehicle there at her moment of need a waste of money? She obviously doesn't value her own Life let alone anyone else's. She's not FIT to dictate who's life is worth keeping. That's the problem with these liberals, they deem themselves God and tell people what they Should and Shouldn't be doing with their lives and then ORDER us to PAY for their "choices", TOUGH pay for your own Choices!
missmonica0876 1 year ago
@missmonica0876
nobody.. is saying that you MUST have an abortion Peasant!
bla34112 1 year ago
This seriously made me cry. Thank whatever gods may be for congresswomen like Moore and Speier, two genuine heroes in my book.
TheMadChild 1 year ago
Excellent plea
bla34112 1 year ago
@iheartfluffymuffins I Think you should reacquaint yourself with what Planned Parenthood's majority business is. It ain't condoms and birth control pills. Again I agree with the mission. But truth is the truth.
scottyalto 1 year ago
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David12King 1 year ago
@David12King
you know how much 1/3 is?
hint: a lot
bla34112 1 year ago
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David12King 1 year ago 3
@David12King
that and.. we could start collecting taxes
bla34112 1 year ago
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David12King 1 year ago
@David12King
Im pretty sure you know that there are different taxes for different income brackets.
I'm talking about shit like the bush tax cuts.
Also, Planned Parenthood is an organization that betters over all health, this will be a money saver.
bla34112 1 year ago 2
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David12King 1 year ago
While I agree totally with the Congress woman. She is a walking living argument against what she is arguing against. Would it have been better if she killed her 1st baby? She seems to have done well for herself?
Again,I agree wholeheartedly with government funded abortion. But,is she not a walking contradiction to her beliefs?
At least she making an honest argument that it's better to kill a kid rather than have it grow up in poverty( I agree) instead of a bunch "laws off of my body" rhetoric.
scottyalto 1 year ago
@scottyalto I dont think shes talking about killing her child so much as having one when she was ready ( in other words had she been given adequate access to contraceptives,the kind planned parenthood provides she would have been able to have that child later in life when she was better able to care for him.)
iheartfluffymuffins 1 year ago 5
@scottyalto if you're pro-life, go adopt a child and prove it. Take those unplanned children off their mom's hands.
TrooperCX 1 year ago 4
@TrooperCX Precisely! Once these Christian morons actively work to save LIVE children from death through crime, malnutrition and the other ravages of poverty, they'll merit their highfalutin Pro-Life moniker. Of course it's far easier to weep and work for blobs of uterine tissue than it is to care and fund actual children. Christians are SUCH hypocritical scum!!!
Hottides 1 year ago
@TrooperCX If you're PRO Death does that mean you should DIE to prove you don't want others to LIVE?
missmonica0876 1 year ago
@missmonica0876 How about you test out that theory first for us. Save the rest of the supportive viewers from having to hear your racist, partisan drivel. You know nothing about the plight of this CONGRESSWOMAN nor any women in America who were once or currently are in the position she herself was. Go back to living in your hole and embarrassing the rest of this country who wants to move forward and help others in society. You're a regressive piece of shit. :)
frauleinvero 1 year ago 5
@frauleinvero Planned parenthood was started by a Racist and she's Cackling from the grave. Her whole aim for birth control and planned parenthood was population control of those she deemed unfit, feeble minded and were Minorities, black, Hispanic,etc. It's not a coincidence that planned parenthood are located in Minority neighborhoods. The truth about Margaret Sanger is out there...too many aborted.com and do check out this link. Educate!
missmonica0876 1 year ago
@missmonica0876 Thank you for sharing the history of Planned Parenthood. EVEN THOUGH it started out that way, I can assure you that it is not some racist organization to get rid of all the blacks and Hispanics in the world. It ISN'T a coincidence that they're located in minority neighborhoods. Minorities are the groups that have the higher rate of abortions because of LACK of affordable birth control. Get out of here with your anti-choice propaganda.
lllaauraaa 1 year ago
@scottyalto She became a congresswoman IN SPITE OF her obstacles. How many black congresswomen from those kinds of backgrounds do you see today?
Also, the government does not in any way fund abortion. The Pence Amendment is to remove the family planning and womens healthcare funding PP receives, which pays for health screenings, STI and other disease testing and treatment, birth control (which prevents ovulation and attachment of fertilized ovum to the uterine wall), and sex education.
TheMadChild 1 year ago 3
@scottyalto
Or she is making an argument for contraception and sexual education. "Planning" is the essential part here.
Abortion is only a minor part of PP's operation.
bla34112 1 year ago 3
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This is what happens when welfare recipients and social parasites become politicians. They've never done anything with their lives except spend other people's money. Therefore they will campaign to spend more and more of other people's money. Notice this black bitch has never earned anything on her own, she's spent her whole life living off the labor of others.
tantrikwizard 1 year ago
Very glad to see this woman is speaking in Congress for a broad constituency of citizens, many of whom are not in her district.
RussianHillHandyman 1 year ago 5
Sad that this lady's words went into one ear and out the other of those greedy pathetic idiots.
CUNTservativesRDung 1 year ago 9
So, let me see if I get this: In the USA, some believe that abortion is murder. To prove that point, they restrict access to sex education and contraception, two things that definitely decreases demand for abortions. Then, once that impoverished and uneducated woman has that baby, a supposed victory for the pro-life cause, they do as little as humanly possible to assist her in raising, feeding, and educating that baby.
Yeah, that makes lots of sense.
thehobbitwaffle 1 year ago 136
@thehobbitwaffle It is so fuckin ridiculous.
bubblinbrownsugar616 1 year ago
@thehobbitwaffle - I thought we did that with welfare, foodstamps, and free healthscare...?
seanwvw 1 year ago
@thehobbitwaffle seriously, you hit the nail on the head. All these people are pro-life but they don't adopt. "Don't kill your babies but don't ask me for help, and FUCK socialism"..... what horrible people
TrooperCX 1 year ago 5
@thehobbitwaffle You. Are. So. Right.
StellaEllaMaya 1 year ago
@thehobbitwaffle
You really have no idea what conservatives think do you. I have yet to meet a conservative that was not for sex education. Of course everyone is pro contraception. The main difference is you think our educators should be handing out condoms when kids come into middle and high school.
Do nothing to raise, feed and educate? Are you kidding me? What do you call welfare, food stamps, and public education? Many other gvt programs exist that are paid by all tax payers.