Chirstopher Hitchens on the Devil In Anna Wintour

[modernecon]

My estimation of Anna Wintour has increased by leaps and bounds.

[slippolives]

Hitchens is the best.

[nicky2coats]

really? he hooked up with anna?

[Calsummersishere]

English bisexuals are just plain nasty! I suppose I am sorry that Mr. Hitchens has cancer now, but he's still a cunt in my book!!!!!!!!!!

[bapyou]

Hitchens has become a media boob. I'm sure it pays well. His supercilious high-toned British accent just annoy the hell out of me.

[luarionte]

@bapyou

There's no such thing a a British accent!

English is ORIGINALLY from England!

So it's the Americans that have the accent! NOT the English! (Ask yourself you came first: the Americans or the British)

A rather annoying one if you ask me, i'd rather have the British - more stylish and elegant

[bapyou]

@luarionte

"There's no such thing a a British accent!"

Well, that's a fucking lie. There are numerous British accents, just as there are numerous American accents. Liverpool, London East End, Midlands, Scottish ... all are British English accents. And accent in Britain is often indicates class. I'm not British, but I've been told by native Brits one can tell where someone lives, what kind of car he or she drives, and how much they have in a bank account, all from listening to their accent.

[MisterTTG]

@bapyou Well, @Luarionte is correct in the sense that there is no such thing as a British accent; there is a British DIALECT. Accent is colloquially used to describe regional dialects, but an "accent" actually describes the traces of your mother language left when you speak another language. A German accent, etc. Meanwhile, "a Southern accent" is incorrect.

[tonyo7]

she dated bob marley

[jtking2504]

The truth is consumers are very environmentally aware, this is no secret yet Anna Wintour continues to push fur as if we're living in the 1940s. Anna Wintour is not the right person for the job if she cannot keep up with trends that are obvious let alone being forward thinking and Vogue is slowly but surely becoming obsolete because of her. She is a dinosaur from another era and Vogue needs to get with the times and replace this stuck in her ways old relic if it is to survive.

[rvggarcon]

@jtking2504 I LOVE FUR. why not focus on the leather shoes, belts accessories and meat almost everybody in the world eats and wears? as opposed to fur which not that many can afford.

[jtking2504]

@rvggarcon, you're not making any sense. You love fur so you want everyone to focus on leather instead & forget all about fur? I'm sure you do, LOL. Good luck with that one. Better luck next time with the trolling, don't expect a reply.

[rvggarcon]

jealous because you cant afford fur, i agree its all the same, fur/leather/burgers. but you guys (PETA) come off as stupid moronic cunts, animals are gonna die anyway.

[sergeantRC]

@rvggarcon so are people, trees, and the planet.

[jamianm]

This whole video needs to be released. Footage from the same interview was used at the beginning of one of Rabbi Schmuley's debates and it was dusk outside haha Hitchens can talk

[CalRhodes]

Hey this is from that video....did yoy buy this from Shmuley's Site?

[jamianm]

Actually, I didn't know Schmuley was selling the debate on his site. I'll have to check it out

[MichaelDavisISTC]

She looks gorgeous, but I wish she didn't keep supporting fur.

I mean, animals as intelligent as dogs spend their lives in tiny cages where they become neurotic from the stress, then they're anally or vaginally electrocuted, and many (imported from China) are actually skinned alive. It's insane. Do something about it - check out PETA's site, or the Humane Society of the United States.

[MarxBakuninMe]

Fuck PETA.

And by the way, I think we should be helping starving children rather over animals.

[MichaelDavisISTC]

You're a philosophy student, yes? The basis for animal rights is the famous argument by Princeton ethics professor Peter Singer - opposing harm is the common thread in ethics, nonhuman animals can be equally harmed, our attitude of not taking their harm seriously is a form of prejudice, "speciesism." We should help starving children too, but what's so special about humans? See Singer's famous book "Animal Liberation" and the main essay at:

animal-rights-library . com/texts-m/singer02 . pdf

[MarxBakuninMe]

Yes, I am. Well . . . humans have an existential experience of life. Animals do not. Animals often have no consciousness at all. That's why people are special.

[MichaelDavisISTC]

Wait! Don't develop an opinion before you've thought it through - by your profile you're too smart for that.

"Existential experience" (consciousness? self-consciousness?) is experienced by MOST humans, and MANY nonhumans. Some humans have a lower level of awareness, rationality, etc., than nonhuman primates, but they're still in the moral community, because it's their ability to be harmed that's relevant.

Singer's article is really interesting - and it might make you want to read the book

[MarxBakuninMe]

Consciousness, yes. But there is a difference between humans who are handicapped (most of whom do have at least some consciousness) and animals who do not have consciousness. Primates have consciousness? Well, fine. But we don't eat primates.

[MichaelDavisISTC]

If by "consciousness" you mean "subjective experience" or "awareness," then many animals are conscious, including all of the animals that we eat. As for mental capacity, the reasoning abilities of pigs far surpass those of human infants and intellectually disabled humans at that level. If by "consciousness" you mean a higher level of "self awareness," then that excludes many intellectually disabled humans. Check "Animal Liberation" book or "Earthlings" movie or "Meat . org".

[YildrimYohyo]

If you mean by "us" all mankind you are mistaken. In Africa and Asia they do eat ape and monkey, just like Chinese and Coreans eat dogs.

There even used to be cannibal tribes in many places in the world who ate human brain out of magical reasons etc. Eating habits seem to depend on cultural evolution.

Also: swine are as intelligent as dolphins are, why eat those?

[MarxBakuninMe]

Are you calling me a swine or are you refering to pigs? If it's the latter - we don't eat dolphins because A. there are fewer of them and B. do they even tatste that good?

[YildrimYohyo]

If nobody would eat pigs there would be much less of them, they would probably be in danger of extinction like dolphins, check the parts of the world were they are tabu- many people don't even know how they look like.

If we would eat dolphin (and how do you know they don't taste good?) we would have found a cheap way to bread and/or harvest them en masse.

It's all about the economy, as somebody called "MarxBakuninMe" should know.

[MarxBakuninMe]

Yes, I am. Well . . . humans have an existential experience of life. Animals do not. Animals often have no consciousness at all. That's why people are special.

[wackid89]

Is that their fault?

[docd1o1]

is it ours? who created us like this with a consciousness and why? why didnt they give it to animals also?

no one knows

[wackid89]

No but but just cause we can harm something doesn't mean we should.

[JJack5589]

Eff PETA.

[MichaelDavisISTC]

What's so special about humans?

[JJack5589]

What's so special about nonhuman mammals?

[SharpesAccomplice]

They have multiple nipples.

[wackid89]

The point is just be humane to everything. Marx and JJack, I'm sure if I put you in a room and told you to skin a dog alive you wouldn't do it. Why would you want to put a animal through uncessary suffering? Isn't the fact that they don't know why they're suffering or what's happening to them bad enough?

[Bahia82]

christopher would be alright if he just lighten up a little bit, when he is on bill maher show, he is so damn serious all the time. Just relax and make your argument

[patbrien]

British men are, by rule, gentlemen.

Hitchens, on the other hand, always gives his opinion, regardless.

[omegavalerius]

thats why he became american ;)

[dannidandannikins]

Foolish comment.

a) British men cannot be said to be, as a rule, anything other than british. Plenty of us are not gentlemen, much like in any other country. This is like saying 'black's have good rhythm'.

b) you seem to think that giving one's opinion is ungentlemanly. Keeping one's opinion to oneself often means not condemning that which you must condemn or praising that of which you disapprove. Such is not gentlemanly, unless to be a gentleman is to be a liar and/or a moral coward.

[MichaelDavisISTC]

It was a joke. Relax.

[jamianm]

Well-said.

[thethirdchimp]

@patbrien Ahh yes, wise words. Such gentlemen.

I'll remember that next time some soccer riot nutter is trying to wrap a row of stadium seating around my head because he's team lost.

[papaverineperoxide]

Christopher is a DILF

[putittogether]

Christopher is BAMF

[Carlrayb]

what does that mean?

[PhillyDickinson]

Bad Ass Mother Fucker, I think.

[obsessivelove69]

is he being honest?i think hes lying:{

[VeiledHeathen]

what a funny way to ask that question!

that's one of the few times I've seen Hitchens lose his poker face.