I think the job centre plus they are a bit annoying when you have been with them I wish had a job I did nearly have a job but the people who were supposed to help me didn't that's why I have been claiming benefits since.
Claimant continues to call throughout the week but eventually told to call back and CLOSE the claim for ESA as the claim cannot be processed with a co-claim on 'the same system'...
Claimant has to call and MANUALLY close ESA claim (even though housing benefit stopped as ESA claim 'closed') and re-open claim for JSA. A week later still no benefit... Claimant applies for dozens and dozens of inappropriate work, but not suitable as not medically fit for positions... Is this a just system?
Claimant rings the 0800 number to open the JSA claim.... All seems 'ok' and sent to office to agree Labour Market conditions and claimant signs the form and told to come back to sign on in 2 weeks.
However, at the sign on the claimant (because of mental incapability) signs the form and doesn't ask questions.
The next week no benefit received, so carer helps the claimant call JCP (08545 number). Claimant told still being assessed to call back in a week. Claimant calls again, then told 2 wait
How about this - on Employment Support Allowance for a severe disability, 12 weeks in claimant sent to a medical, deemed fit but there were inaccuracies on the medical statement (claiming patient had a stoma but had severe mental incapacity NOT bowel or bladder). Claimant told 'fit to work' after a 10 minute consultation with a non medical professional, so claimant doesn't have the will to appeal, so decides to claim JSA as advised on DWP letter.
However I would emphasis it is important not to tar all staff with the same brush. Some have good intentions and view claimants as clients, not second class plebs. It is wrong to generalise the unemployed. In my view it is wrong to generalise allmost any group.
I would also recommend people avoid job agencies and conduct independant research. In my experience job agencies exploit their clients for their own ends- they leave you in the dark with developments, get basic facts wrong, ask you to come to them and then ignore you. Avoid them.
cont; unpleasant staff. Some of whom talk down to and shout at claimants, display double standards on rules and generally make no secret of the fact they get a kick out of having such power- it is a form of blackmail because if the claimant leaves, their JSA is taken away. There is technically a complaint box available but in reality the claimant has very little chance to use it, often because they are on an unpaid work placement of which they have very little say.
Many Jobcentre Staff are decent people with good intentions. There are a few bad eggs who enjoy talking down to others and playing dice with peoples lives. In back to work centres such as Sencia, the regime is very militant and in the most patronising way possible tries to convince claimants that such treatment is for their own good- not in fact the populist and counterproductive programme it is. As with Jobcentres there are decent staff in Sencia, but there is also a higher proportion of cont;
As a young man, Gordon Brown accused the Tories of punishing people for being unemployed. Anyone who has been through the New Deal system will see the irony in history repeating itself. The catchline is helping people back into work but the reality is punishing people for the crime of unemployment- no matter what way it is glossed over.
If this is intended as a marketing tool I would strongly recommend all potential employees of Jobcentres recognise that not all claimants are stupid and that talking down to them and exploiting them could result in bullying and exploitation claims. Claimants who do not want to be treated a inferior citizens when they have done nothing wrong will not allow themselves to be pilloried in this way.
If you treat the claimant with respect, 80% of the time they will treat you with respect.
lllllllllllooooooolllllllll Heres an idea. Put down your tabloid filth and get into the real world. If you don't like your job thats not the fault of the unemployed.
I got made redundant last year like many other hard working british people and paid NI and tax for 11 year since leaving school.and ive never struggled so much in my life on £60 a week. The job scene in NW eng is pathetic. The only thing they could suggest was that i apply to agencies which dont offer any security and put u back to square one..2 days work here and there is not an option, considering they take a cut too. it annoys me when people say beggars cant be choosers....
I have only been signing on for about two weeks after my contract finished at my old job and now I am volunteering at an art gallery bye choice just to get out of the house. As I hate it when people say everyone on JSA are lazy and you get no help from the job centre what so ever. Now I don't know about you, but yes I am lazy even though I have a 1st class BA Hons degree, a Masters degree and have over eight years experience which is in the creative arts, they need to change the JSA system.
liers! i had to be put through to 3 people and this was at the start of july this year! then i had to go down to the flipping job centre to find out that i could make a claim as im still on child benefits till september grr that pissed me off most because its not like it was easy to get to either and the people on the phone said i had an interview for it how come they couldnt tell me i couldnt claim!
how nerdish must you be to actually comment on somethin like that and i am well educated actually just because i made a fuckin typo doesnt prove that i am an "uneducated waste of fucking space" and no im not on the dole i have this little thing called A JOB! so chill out and stop being so over sensative because i have an opinion on the job centre and was pissed off at the time, HA! nerd!
well i wanted too se my uncle on thursday and the stress the gave me was unbearable one advisor told me your going to have problems if u leave or dont come in on your sign on day and the cheak they ask me where i am going what i am doing i am a slave to the system simple as there is no way out
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There are tons of jobs out there at the moment, but lazy bone idle people in this country will not do.
It is people like you who go on about "immigrants coming here taking our jobs" when these "immigrants" have actually paid more taxes than you.
As far as Im concerned ,people on the dole receive TOO MUCH money.
I cant see why claimants cant do services to the community in return for their benefits,which would get them in the right frame of mind for working, instead of bumming round at home
cunts.. they are all conts.. monkey bastards sitting behind desks judging people who genuinly are lookin for a job but find nothing, yet find it need to belittle you an talk down to you like some sort of school kid.. iv yet to meet one person working for the JC that isnt a complete up herself / himself twat! thankfully i have a job.. but my view..
I have come to the conclusion that welfare claimants are the most slandered group of people in the country. The red top press are predictable but even some leading politicians are encouraging the stigmatizing of claimants; and there are a lot of self-satisfied morons who look down on claimants- a number of hate groups have been set up- yes, hate groups. I strongly urge people to visit the facebook group 'Generalising the unemployed'- at present theres only 30 members.
The New Deal Programme is deeply flawed and counter-productive. Aside from the usual patronizing treatment of welfare claimants, it involves sitting for hours on end searching for non-existent jobs. Ive a twelve week stint to go and im not looking forward to it. They also put up barriers from getting work- for example usage of phones on the programme is prohibited- even if its an employer phoning!
Up skill? Piloted? Exciting package? The right job? McDonalds working for dole on placement, thats their idea of work. And if you dont do it, they will stop your JSA.
Leaving you with no money to buy food. Yes, thats right, they will actually starve you to death.
Thats the level of help you get from Jobcentre Plus and New Deal.
have you heard this shit?? the staff sit around doing fuck all, the entire system is based on the notion that anybody on the dole is a thick piece of shit and doesnt want to work! one complete arse ole of a member of staff once told me i had to take any job up to an hour and a half travelling time at the most??? YEAH RIGHT ON! like i'm gonna travel 75 miles to stack boxes on a pallet for a minimum wage?? all they do is insult your intelligence and strip you of your dignity
Get of your arse and get a job and stop blaming everyone else but yourself..
This country has career claimants.
Single mothers walking round in pyjamas all day claiming income support,child benefit,tax credits, housing and council tax benefit , free prescriptions and a health service, sorry but how the fuck are they hard done too???
Neo/con-Labour has turned to the same fraudulent bankters who ruined the economy to advise the government to do something what they planned from Tony Blair's regine change to force the unemployed to work below minimun wages from welfare to workfare.
My experiences of job centre staff, when I was claiming JSA, wasn't a possitive experience. Some of the staff are the most rudest & attitudinal individuals I have ever met. They're supposed to be customer focused but what I saw were scruffily attired staff who blantatly made personal phonecalls in front of clients, who they obviously had complete contempt for.
The majority of people working in Joncentre are very Rude and dont treat people good.I've been there and seen it myself.many many times.their only job is bullying the poor.fucking disgusting.
HAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK OFF!!! JOBCENTRE DIE DIE FUCKING DIE!!! nobody would know anything about your beneifts in all these different places, and now, they have consolidated it all in to once place, THAT KNOWS FUCK ALL ABOUT YOUR BENEFITS!! HAHAHA
I've been un-employed, it's a horrible circle to be in, Job Centres are fucking useless I've yet to meet an advisor that actually cares to really help you get into work, they will send you to some agency that will get you 2 days work.
liars absolute liars... they never know whats happening with your claims! they refer you to another advisor and they dont know and you spend all your mobile phone credit on finding out whats happening
what gives the folk employed in job centres around the country the right to talk to people like scum? i'm looking forward to the day it is all done on pc's then these little hitlers will be unemployed too! i'd happily spit on anyone that works in a job centre, cos they do worse to people that are down on their luck every single day!
I'm on jsa and i hate it , i lost my job just before Xmas and its so depressing, hey its nice to have a chill for a while but it gets worse. coming home from work and reaching the weekend is the happiest thing. should be getting my old job back this month cant wait!!
That place has fuck me around so fuckin much. Where i live there are more seasonal jobs than full time. Every time i go to sign on its like they go out there way to fuck me off. They can all go to hell. And fuck the phones 2hr of all are line are busy FUCK YOU ALL!!!!!!!!! The videos shit to.
pmsl, Anyone like those posted already who are or have been on JSA or such will know this video should be re-edited and everything they say reveresed, We strive to make you f*ck off cause they want a break or hours later or your claims lost or forms never come...
Same here and I am depressed. I've been offered jobs from employment service staff which were too over-qualified but not help for long-term unemployed.
Yer, what a load of rubbish...i have been on and off the dole for years.....this is crap. I am going to bog to drop one.! What a load of crap...ask some one who has been there and not get too bit actor's to pay the part or dole staff.
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you should be ashamed of yourself...along with the job centre managers...causing riots and suicides
guitar999able 1 week ago
LMAO only 1 person likes this?
whiteyy2991 1 month ago
We should all get together and burn the jobcentre
AEF091 1 month ago
I think the job centre plus they are a bit annoying when you have been with them I wish had a job I did nearly have a job but the people who were supposed to help me didn't that's why I have been claiming benefits since.
nke86 3 months ago
Motivational? Yeah right. I've had to deal with lots of unhappy staff. They have not helped me one bit. Like everyone else, I go for the money.
nintendolad 1 year ago
Claimant continues to call throughout the week but eventually told to call back and CLOSE the claim for ESA as the claim cannot be processed with a co-claim on 'the same system'...
Claimant has to call and MANUALLY close ESA claim (even though housing benefit stopped as ESA claim 'closed') and re-open claim for JSA. A week later still no benefit... Claimant applies for dozens and dozens of inappropriate work, but not suitable as not medically fit for positions... Is this a just system?
sharon1915 1 year ago
Claimant rings the 0800 number to open the JSA claim.... All seems 'ok' and sent to office to agree Labour Market conditions and claimant signs the form and told to come back to sign on in 2 weeks.
However, at the sign on the claimant (because of mental incapability) signs the form and doesn't ask questions.
The next week no benefit received, so carer helps the claimant call JCP (08545 number). Claimant told still being assessed to call back in a week. Claimant calls again, then told 2 wait
sharon1915 1 year ago
How about this - on Employment Support Allowance for a severe disability, 12 weeks in claimant sent to a medical, deemed fit but there were inaccuracies on the medical statement (claiming patient had a stoma but had severe mental incapacity NOT bowel or bladder). Claimant told 'fit to work' after a 10 minute consultation with a non medical professional, so claimant doesn't have the will to appeal, so decides to claim JSA as advised on DWP letter.
Continued....
sharon1915 1 year ago
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However I would emphasis it is important not to tar all staff with the same brush. Some have good intentions and view claimants as clients, not second class plebs. It is wrong to generalise the unemployed. In my view it is wrong to generalise allmost any group.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
I would also recommend people avoid job agencies and conduct independant research. In my experience job agencies exploit their clients for their own ends- they leave you in the dark with developments, get basic facts wrong, ask you to come to them and then ignore you. Avoid them.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
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cont; unpleasant staff. Some of whom talk down to and shout at claimants, display double standards on rules and generally make no secret of the fact they get a kick out of having such power- it is a form of blackmail because if the claimant leaves, their JSA is taken away. There is technically a complaint box available but in reality the claimant has very little chance to use it, often because they are on an unpaid work placement of which they have very little say.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
@stgeorgenationalist
The last time I looked at the BNP policy on welfare, it looked like a direct quote from a tabloid newspaper- something about 'workshy parasites'
They are dangerous populists and if ever they get in power would make the Tories look like Marxists.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
Many Jobcentre Staff are decent people with good intentions. There are a few bad eggs who enjoy talking down to others and playing dice with peoples lives. In back to work centres such as Sencia, the regime is very militant and in the most patronising way possible tries to convince claimants that such treatment is for their own good- not in fact the populist and counterproductive programme it is. As with Jobcentres there are decent staff in Sencia, but there is also a higher proportion of cont;
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
As a young man, Gordon Brown accused the Tories of punishing people for being unemployed. Anyone who has been through the New Deal system will see the irony in history repeating itself. The catchline is helping people back into work but the reality is punishing people for the crime of unemployment- no matter what way it is glossed over.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
GB reference 'Gordon Brown' by Tom Bowyer- page 47
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
If this is intended as a marketing tool I would strongly recommend all potential employees of Jobcentres recognise that not all claimants are stupid and that talking down to them and exploiting them could result in bullying and exploitation claims. Claimants who do not want to be treated a inferior citizens when they have done nothing wrong will not allow themselves to be pilloried in this way.
If you treat the claimant with respect, 80% of the time they will treat you with respect.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
here's an idea.............GET A JOB!!
billabongbimbo 2 years ago
@billabongbimbo
lllllllllllooooooolllllllll Heres an idea. Put down your tabloid filth and get into the real world. If you don't like your job thats not the fault of the unemployed.
Ignorant piece of shit.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
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I got made redundant last year like many other hard working british people and paid NI and tax for 11 year since leaving school.and ive never struggled so much in my life on £60 a week. The job scene in NW eng is pathetic. The only thing they could suggest was that i apply to agencies which dont offer any security and put u back to square one..2 days work here and there is not an option, considering they take a cut too. it annoys me when people say beggars cant be choosers....
SickOfThisCrap1 2 years ago
The peopole on this video must be on drugs!
schmutzgreiffer 2 years ago
Are these Jobcentre employees/interviewees on drugs??
WTF are they talking about?
Every experience I have had with these twats has been negative. They are on a mission so as not to pay you a fucking penny!
Get real, you are an incompetent Department and you are so full of shit it is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fucking horseshit, lying bastards! Die in your sleep.
schmutzgreiffer 2 years ago
I have only been signing on for about two weeks after my contract finished at my old job and now I am volunteering at an art gallery bye choice just to get out of the house. As I hate it when people say everyone on JSA are lazy and you get no help from the job centre what so ever. Now I don't know about you, but yes I am lazy even though I have a 1st class BA Hons degree, a Masters degree and have over eight years experience which is in the creative arts, they need to change the JSA system.
ShadowlostArts 2 years ago
@darkstar0709 Ha HA fucking ridiculous
ukandoittowithkandoo 2 years ago
Customer?!
How about CITIZEN.
spudpeel 2 years ago
How do you know when jobcentre staff are lying?
There fucking mouths move....
blacklotus808 2 years ago 2
Total propaganda bullshit....
blacklotus808 2 years ago
but they are nice
montydon21 2 years ago
liers! i had to be put through to 3 people and this was at the start of july this year! then i had to go down to the flipping job centre to find out that i could make a claim as im still on child benefits till september grr that pissed me off most because its not like it was easy to get to either and the people on the phone said i had an interview for it how come they couldnt tell me i couldnt claim!
kitkatkafrin 2 years ago
sorry that should say that i couldn't make a claim coz of child benefits
kitkatkafrin 2 years ago
Also "Liers" is actually spelt "LIARS"
Get your spelling correct before you insult someone,otherwise you just come across like an uneducated waste of fucking space!!
So your on the dole.......................
montydon21 2 years ago
how nerdish must you be to actually comment on somethin like that and i am well educated actually just because i made a fuckin typo doesnt prove that i am an "uneducated waste of fucking space" and no im not on the dole i have this little thing called A JOB! so chill out and stop being so over sensative because i have an opinion on the job centre and was pissed off at the time, HA! nerd!
kitkatkafrin 2 years ago
well i wanted too se my uncle on thursday and the stress the gave me was unbearable one advisor told me your going to have problems if u leave or dont come in on your sign on day and the cheak they ask me where i am going what i am doing i am a slave to the system simple as there is no way out
salps3 2 years ago
Or pay claimants in Food vouchers so they cant just go and buy drugs or some high strength lager.
montydon21 2 years ago
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There are tons of jobs out there at the moment, but lazy bone idle people in this country will not do.
It is people like you who go on about "immigrants coming here taking our jobs" when these "immigrants" have actually paid more taxes than you.
As far as Im concerned ,people on the dole receive TOO MUCH money.
I cant see why claimants cant do services to the community in return for their benefits,which would get them in the right frame of mind for working, instead of bumming round at home
montydon21 2 years ago
cunts.. they are all conts.. monkey bastards sitting behind desks judging people who genuinly are lookin for a job but find nothing, yet find it need to belittle you an talk down to you like some sort of school kid.. iv yet to meet one person working for the JC that isnt a complete up herself / himself twat! thankfully i have a job.. but my view..
im sure oustide the job. these people are nice..
i cant stress how much i hate these cunts..
scottishclown 2 years ago
agreed i cant express how i feel with life at the moment signing on lost hope in everything
salps3 2 years ago
New Deal is a waste of time money and space, well done Government
JKAntics 2 years ago 2
I have come to the conclusion that welfare claimants are the most slandered group of people in the country. The red top press are predictable but even some leading politicians are encouraging the stigmatizing of claimants; and there are a lot of self-satisfied morons who look down on claimants- a number of hate groups have been set up- yes, hate groups. I strongly urge people to visit the facebook group 'Generalising the unemployed'- at present theres only 30 members.
CULAVE 2 years ago 5
The New Deal Programme is deeply flawed and counter-productive. Aside from the usual patronizing treatment of welfare claimants, it involves sitting for hours on end searching for non-existent jobs. Ive a twelve week stint to go and im not looking forward to it. They also put up barriers from getting work- for example usage of phones on the programme is prohibited- even if its an employer phoning!
CULAVE 2 years ago 5
Up skill? Piloted? Exciting package? The right job? McDonalds working for dole on placement, thats their idea of work. And if you dont do it, they will stop your JSA.
Leaving you with no money to buy food. Yes, thats right, they will actually starve you to death.
Thats the level of help you get from Jobcentre Plus and New Deal.
dashwood123 2 years ago 2
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filthybaggage 2 years ago
have you heard this shit?? the staff sit around doing fuck all, the entire system is based on the notion that anybody on the dole is a thick piece of shit and doesnt want to work! one complete arse ole of a member of staff once told me i had to take any job up to an hour and a half travelling time at the most??? YEAH RIGHT ON! like i'm gonna travel 75 miles to stack boxes on a pallet for a minimum wage?? all they do is insult your intelligence and strip you of your dignity
stuntladz 3 years ago 3
Get of your arse and get a job and stop blaming everyone else but yourself..
This country has career claimants.
Single mothers walking round in pyjamas all day claiming income support,child benefit,tax credits, housing and council tax benefit , free prescriptions and a health service, sorry but how the fuck are they hard done too???
montydon21 2 years ago
i have to agree with u there the jobcentre gave me to many problems in the past
salps3 3 years ago
Neo/con-Labour has turned to the same fraudulent bankters who ruined the economy to advise the government to do something what they planned from Tony Blair's regine change to force the unemployed to work below minimun wages from welfare to workfare.
Linsteadite 3 years ago
My experiences of job centre staff, when I was claiming JSA, wasn't a possitive experience. Some of the staff are the most rudest & attitudinal individuals I have ever met. They're supposed to be customer focused but what I saw were scruffily attired staff who blantatly made personal phonecalls in front of clients, who they obviously had complete contempt for.
loverob 3 years ago 4
Complete Bullshit.
The majority of people working in Joncentre are very Rude and dont treat people good.I've been there and seen it myself.many many times.their only job is bullying the poor.fucking disgusting.
alak58 3 years ago 4
HAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK OFF!!! JOBCENTRE DIE DIE FUCKING DIE!!! nobody would know anything about your beneifts in all these different places, and now, they have consolidated it all in to once place, THAT KNOWS FUCK ALL ABOUT YOUR BENEFITS!! HAHAHA
mrtube1 3 years ago 3
I've been un-employed, it's a horrible circle to be in, Job Centres are fucking useless I've yet to meet an advisor that actually cares to really help you get into work, they will send you to some agency that will get you 2 days work.
pino18 3 years ago 19
The jobcentre in penryn cornwall is full of friendly staff but the service does not do enough to research new jobs.
I think the whole service needs overhauling because nothing has improved since the last 10 years during which i have signed on twice.
PPl wating to start up need more help & finance. The princes trust never got back to me & its not good enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!
widdy2007 3 years ago
liars absolute liars... they never know whats happening with your claims! they refer you to another advisor and they dont know and you spend all your mobile phone credit on finding out whats happening
Bonespaul2007 4 years ago 2
what gives the folk employed in job centres around the country the right to talk to people like scum? i'm looking forward to the day it is all done on pc's then these little hitlers will be unemployed too! i'd happily spit on anyone that works in a job centre, cos they do worse to people that are down on their luck every single day!
19george73 4 years ago
I'm on jsa and i hate it , i lost my job just before Xmas and its so depressing, hey its nice to have a chill for a while but it gets worse. coming home from work and reaching the weekend is the happiest thing. should be getting my old job back this month cant wait!!
mixindave1 4 years ago
Prince Charles is another one who dosent pay tax
sonofthedestroyer 4 years ago 6
That place has fuck me around so fuckin much. Where i live there are more seasonal jobs than full time. Every time i go to sign on its like they go out there way to fuck me off. They can all go to hell. And fuck the phones 2hr of all are line are busy FUCK YOU ALL!!!!!!!!! The videos shit to.
jobcenterplus 4 years ago
same as me mate im usually on and off
mixindave1 4 years ago
pmsl, Anyone like those posted already who are or have been on JSA or such will know this video should be re-edited and everything they say reveresed, We strive to make you f*ck off cause they want a break or hours later or your claims lost or forms never come...
stonerscolony 4 years ago 3
Same here and I am depressed. I've been offered jobs from employment service staff which were too over-qualified but not help for long-term unemployed.
Markytho 4 years ago
Yer, what a load of rubbish...i have been on and off the dole for years.....this is crap. I am going to bog to drop one.! What a load of crap...ask some one who has been there and not get too bit actor's to pay the part or dole staff.
tintin20001967 4 years ago