Americans have been lied to. I compiled a blog titled "Corporate Executives Deny 57 Million Americans Healthcare - by Bill Woollam" Just Google that.
The US health care system is one of the worst in the world and has been compromised by the US Administration, the Health Insurance and Management Offices, and American Medical Assoc.
Canada, Britain, France and Cuba have hassle free, debt-free, comprehensive, universal health plans where every citizen receives health care with no added costs
Massachusetts is not single payer. They subsidize private insurance companies and mandate everyone to buy private insurance. The same is true for Obama's plan.
And actually VA hospitals recieve some of the best ratings and has won awards for their care. The WHO also ranked USA 37th in the world, the top ten countries had single payer.
We said Massachusetts wasn't single payer, so we're pleased you agree with us. Your comments about the VA hospital system avoid the uncomfortable truth about that system - it is underfunded, overburdened with a government bureaucracy, and plagued with long wait times, poor care and a history of failure. The Walter Reed incidents are indicative of the system's performance.
WHO stopped ranking a decade ago, but this point was already discussed in comments here.
What has changed since a decade ago, besides the fact that the US spends nearly $6,000 per capital on health care, and other single payer countries spend around 2,000-3,000?
Your statistics about VHA are not true. In 2008 VA recieved satisfaction rating of 85 compared to 75 for private hospitals.
Rand, in 2004, found that VHA out performs all other sectors of american healthcare.
Walter Reed Hospital is not part of the VHA. And what happened at the VHA actually supports my argument. The Bush administration privatised the services there, and it lead to a disaster. Look at the investigation done by congress.
Both your comments, this one and the one you claim is removed, are visible. When we do police comments, it is because we feel they're unproductive to reasonable discussion.
While your first comment may meet that standard, since it's bereft of context and plainly trolling, we typically invite the person to engage in more civil commentary.
To repeat: As a purely rhetorical exercise, which part was BS? Each element has been reported on extensively, and the analysis connects those dots.
The healthiest countries in the world have singlepayer health care. If you're an interested viewer, google it and read the facts. Every word that comes out of this mans mouth is a lie.
He's lied so much in this video I don't know where to begin... my best guess he works in the health insurance industry, where he makes bonuses from the amount of human beings he denies health care procedures from each year.
The "liar, liar, pants on fire" argument! Next to "evil corporations", this one is my favorite.
Would you like to dispute the EU medical tourism trend? Or the track record of the VA Hospital System or Medicaid, both government-run health care systems?
I mean, every word I said is a lie...it must be easy to dispute, then.
That, or your argument is so weak that all you can say is "he's gotta work for the health insurance industry."
@EconMilitia: You do not represent hard working American families who work hard and are then denied coverage. Singlepayer, Medicare expanded to all Americans, would get people the procedures they need. There are no medical bankrupcies in Canada, the United Kingdom, the rest of Europe or Australia. I've had enough, go tell your lies to someone else who does not care.
Again, if I'm wrong I would enjoy hearing where I was wrong. The Medicaid system in the US is horribly broken, and the VA Hospital System is a tragedy.
That you think nationalized health care system describes another failure: our educational system also gets low marks from this discourse.
@EconMilitia "The term single-payer thus only describes the funding mechanism—referring to health care being paid for by a single public body from a single fund—and does not specify the type of delivery, or who doctors work for. Although the fund holder is usually the government, some forms of single-payer employ a public-private system." - Read that closely, end of story.
If you watch the episode again, you'll see this idea gets addressed. Most simply, the entity defining coverage is by definition controlling coverage. This is one of the problems with the American Medicaid system, since the coverages are truly labyrinthine.
The Right wing wants the public to think these systems are broke. It helps protect the private system. The private system is the failure. In fact, the Right Wing has gone out of its way to destroy the Federal Gov. The private system would love to have the Feds out of the way. States are much easer to control with corporate cash. I work at the bedside every day; your pumping BS. Now hide my comment on a back page like your paid to do.
By "these systems", you refer to Medicaid, Medicare and the VA -- the trifecta of public health programs run by the Federal government? The context of your comment leads me to believe that's true, but you can't believe those systems are effective.
From Barack Obama to the Washington Post to the New York Times, the VA, Medicaid and Medicare have been pilloried as examples of poor care, financial mismanagement and miserable service. They're now part of your "Right Wing?"
And please, as a point of pride, work on understanding the difference between the contraction of you are -- you're -- and the possessive adjective your.
Those Right Wing zealots, like Jefferson and Madison, who opposed a large Federal government and promoted the primacy of the various States would certain prefer their memories be sullied by people using proper grammar, at least.
Repetition does not increase accuracy. You've provided no meaningful commentary and quite a lot of angry, poorly written invective. You'd been given a chance to back your assertion with even one fact, and you have not.
Thanks for watching. We'll invite you to watch as you please, but refrain from further comment.
I agree, a broader viewing would be helpful. Like global warming, where the people who want carbon taxing manipulate data, conceal contradictory opinions and lie, it seems that nationalized health care has been consumed by a similar bubble. Any contradictory opinion with global warming earned you the nickname "denier". Now, you call me a liar for stating simple, verifiable facts.
@EconMilitia First I thought you were simply misinformed, but it's clear you're a liar. I'm not going to debate Global Warming (or anything) with disingenuous people. Goodbye.
The religious view of global warming: any counter viewpoint is a liar. Clearly it extends to how you feel about single-payer health care.
And there's the problem: it's how you feel. Reasoning and evidence have little sway over those held tight by their feelings. I'm sorry you're not open to learning.
@EconMilitia Debating with you is pointless. Anyone interested in singlepayer must do the research and google it, Medicare is singlepayer. Go take Medicare away from seniors.
Americans have been lied to. I compiled a blog titled "Corporate Executives Deny 57 Million Americans Healthcare - by Bill Woollam" Just Google that.
The US health care system is one of the worst in the world and has been compromised by the US Administration, the Health Insurance and Management Offices, and American Medical Assoc.
Canada, Britain, France and Cuba have hassle free, debt-free, comprehensive, universal health plans where every citizen receives health care with no added costs
Chidanandaji 11 months ago
Massachusetts is not single payer. They subsidize private insurance companies and mandate everyone to buy private insurance. The same is true for Obama's plan.
And actually VA hospitals recieve some of the best ratings and has won awards for their care. The WHO also ranked USA 37th in the world, the top ten countries had single payer.
woostopalypse 1 year ago
We said Massachusetts wasn't single payer, so we're pleased you agree with us. Your comments about the VA hospital system avoid the uncomfortable truth about that system - it is underfunded, overburdened with a government bureaucracy, and plagued with long wait times, poor care and a history of failure. The Walter Reed incidents are indicative of the system's performance.
WHO stopped ranking a decade ago, but this point was already discussed in comments here.
Thanks for watching!
EconMilitia 1 year ago
What has changed since a decade ago, besides the fact that the US spends nearly $6,000 per capital on health care, and other single payer countries spend around 2,000-3,000?
Your statistics about VHA are not true. In 2008 VA recieved satisfaction rating of 85 compared to 75 for private hospitals.
Rand, in 2004, found that VHA out performs all other sectors of american healthcare.
woostopalypse 1 year ago
@EconMilitia
Walter Reed Hospital is not part of the VHA. And what happened at the VHA actually supports my argument. The Bush administration privatised the services there, and it lead to a disaster. Look at the investigation done by congress.
woostopalypse 1 year ago
I would like to read my comment before I respond. If you are so sure of your position, why do you you remove comments that question it ???
When you want argue like a Free Man, let me know. Repost my comment and get ready for a beat down.
rickbar123 1 year ago
Both your comments, this one and the one you claim is removed, are visible. When we do police comments, it is because we feel they're unproductive to reasonable discussion.
While your first comment may meet that standard, since it's bereft of context and plainly trolling, we typically invite the person to engage in more civil commentary.
To repeat: As a purely rhetorical exercise, which part was BS? Each element has been reported on extensively, and the analysis connects those dots.
EconMilitia 1 year ago
How much are the Insurance CEOs paying you to pump this BS????
rickbar123 1 year ago
So you're using the "evil corporations" argument? That's unfortunate.
As a purely rhetorical exercise, which part was BS? Each element has been reported on extensively, and the analysis connects those dots.
EconMilitia 1 year ago
The healthiest countries in the world have singlepayer health care. If you're an interested viewer, google it and read the facts. Every word that comes out of this mans mouth is a lie.
He's lied so much in this video I don't know where to begin... my best guess he works in the health insurance industry, where he makes bonuses from the amount of human beings he denies health care procedures from each year.
ARom101 2 years ago
The "liar, liar, pants on fire" argument! Next to "evil corporations", this one is my favorite.
Would you like to dispute the EU medical tourism trend? Or the track record of the VA Hospital System or Medicaid, both government-run health care systems?
I mean, every word I said is a lie...it must be easy to dispute, then.
That, or your argument is so weak that all you can say is "he's gotta work for the health insurance industry."
EconMilitia 2 years ago
@EconMilitia: You do not represent hard working American families who work hard and are then denied coverage. Singlepayer, Medicare expanded to all Americans, would get people the procedures they need. There are no medical bankrupcies in Canada, the United Kingdom, the rest of Europe or Australia. I've had enough, go tell your lies to someone else who does not care.
ARom101 2 years ago
Again, if I'm wrong I would enjoy hearing where I was wrong. The Medicaid system in the US is horribly broken, and the VA Hospital System is a tragedy.
That you think nationalized health care system describes another failure: our educational system also gets low marks from this discourse.
EconMilitia 2 years ago
@EconMilitia "The term single-payer thus only describes the funding mechanism—referring to health care being paid for by a single public body from a single fund—and does not specify the type of delivery, or who doctors work for. Although the fund holder is usually the government, some forms of single-payer employ a public-private system." - Read that closely, end of story.
ARom101 2 years ago
If you watch the episode again, you'll see this idea gets addressed. Most simply, the entity defining coverage is by definition controlling coverage. This is one of the problems with the American Medicaid system, since the coverages are truly labyrinthine.
EconMilitia 2 years ago
My comments are not seen on this page.
rickbar123 1 year ago
These systems are not horribly broken.
The Right wing wants the public to think these systems are broke. It helps protect the private system. The private system is the failure. In fact, the Right Wing has gone out of its way to destroy the Federal Gov. The private system would love to have the Feds out of the way. States are much easer to control with corporate cash. I work at the bedside every day; your pumping BS. Now hide my comment on a back page like your paid to do.
rickbar123 1 year ago
By "these systems", you refer to Medicaid, Medicare and the VA -- the trifecta of public health programs run by the Federal government? The context of your comment leads me to believe that's true, but you can't believe those systems are effective.
From Barack Obama to the Washington Post to the New York Times, the VA, Medicaid and Medicare have been pilloried as examples of poor care, financial mismanagement and miserable service. They're now part of your "Right Wing?"
EconMilitia 1 year ago
And please, as a point of pride, work on understanding the difference between the contraction of you are -- you're -- and the possessive adjective your.
Those Right Wing zealots, like Jefferson and Madison, who opposed a large Federal government and promoted the primacy of the various States would certain prefer their memories be sullied by people using proper grammar, at least.
EconMilitia 1 year ago
I am glad the Insurance CEOs hired an English Major to push BS on YT.
I went to Nursing School and have spent 15 years in ERs, ICUs, Burn Units and CCUs. You vid is BS.
rickbar123 1 year ago
Repetition does not increase accuracy. You've provided no meaningful commentary and quite a lot of angry, poorly written invective. You'd been given a chance to back your assertion with even one fact, and you have not.
Thanks for watching. We'll invite you to watch as you please, but refrain from further comment.
EconMilitia 1 year ago
@EconMilitia 241 views... yeah, people are really raving about your analysis (lies).
ARom101 2 years ago
I agree, a broader viewing would be helpful. Like global warming, where the people who want carbon taxing manipulate data, conceal contradictory opinions and lie, it seems that nationalized health care has been consumed by a similar bubble. Any contradictory opinion with global warming earned you the nickname "denier". Now, you call me a liar for stating simple, verifiable facts.
Then, like now, we tell truth to power.
EconMilitia 2 years ago
@EconMilitia First I thought you were simply misinformed, but it's clear you're a liar. I'm not going to debate Global Warming (or anything) with disingenuous people. Goodbye.
ARom101 2 years ago
The religious view of global warming: any counter viewpoint is a liar. Clearly it extends to how you feel about single-payer health care.
And there's the problem: it's how you feel. Reasoning and evidence have little sway over those held tight by their feelings. I'm sorry you're not open to learning.
EconMilitia 2 years ago
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@EconMilitia Debating with you is pointless. Anyone interested in singlepayer must do the research and google it, Medicare is singlepayer. Go take Medicare away from seniors.
ARom101 2 years ago